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Re: Ask Me About Islam by olabowale(m): 1:30pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
« #62 on: Yesterday at 09:22:42 PM » yea right,these pertinent issues do not require long winded quranic verses to explain or justify them,they are simple yes or no answers,I therefore hope that you can explain if Jesus is a Servant or God by this Verse: ACTS 4 Verse 28; "Jesus your Servant whom You (God) sent". Is Jesus servant; yes or no? Mark 12 Verse 29; And Jesus said; Hear ye, Oh Israel, your God and my God is but one Lord. Is Jesus and the others God and or Lord, yes or no? On the hanging cross; Jesus yelled; My God, my God; why has thou forsaken me? Is Jesus God; Yes or no? At the Garden of Geshemane, in prayer; Jesus prayed that the cup should be removed from his head, but it is the will of God that will be done Prevail, come to pass). Is Jesus the God whose will will be done as he prayed; yes or no? On the cross as Jesu was giving up the ghost, he exclaimed; it is finished; was it finish, really since Paul who used to be Saul changed everything that Jesus stood on before; yes or no? Did Jesus really won over the death that you said killed him; yes or no? LOL, I can give you tons of them, just to beat you down and even do a good stumping while at it. if you caught me red handed dipping my hands in your pot of soup,with my mouth full of meat,what other explanations is there to do?If you dont live in my household, I will say you are a darn thief, and your hands deserves the chopping off. But the wife of the hotelier will say the son of the hotelier is having a midnight meat feast. Am sure his father can afford the "niamaAllah" based on his business. that is what you muslims are doing,answer me with a simple yes or no!!!Read below for how I am taunting you; and you deserve it, I must say. 1.did mohammed a 52 years old man marry a 6 years old girl and later have sex with her when she turned 9? yes or no,without explanations!!if no i have proof.No, except that you shall be able to tell me when was Aisha (RA) born relative to her father's acceptance of Islam brough by Muhammad (AS)? Except that you can tell me how old she, was when bethroned to the first potential husband, whose marriage to her was called off because of her father's becoming Muslim? YOu will have to explain yourself, thoroughly, otherwise your Shahadah is coming up: and all the household of the Hotelier will have to accept islam, when you fail without any question! 2.did mohammed leading a band of renegades and armed robbers raid and kill innocent traders,even during the holy month??yes or no,without explanations!!no and i have proof.No! This shoud be good! 3.did mohammad support the 3 godess,and later abrogate the verses in the medina period??yes or no without explanations, if no i have proofNo. And present your proof and Allah willing, my overwhelming proofs against your lies are coming up immediately after that. After this, I do not want to read from you about your obtrusive lies! 4.did mohammaed indulge in an uncontrollable sexual orgy,both with female slaves and numerous wioves,to the extent that his wives were murmuring?yes or no without explanation if no i have proofNo. And if you now women, except that you only hit the skin and hit the road. If you know, everyone has some Jealousy. So are men. In the past 20 years that I have beeen divorced from my ex, each time I saw her with a man, it was not a great feeling in my heart, even though I dont want her, ever. I dont think you know what good relationship is? Muhammad (AS) was the best of them, of all persons who have ever walked the earth; how do you think that his women will not even be jealous against one another? If my wife were to call my number and she reached a wrong number, and if a woman were to answer, she will ask; whenever she speaks to me: Wale, tani obinrin to gbe aago e? I may have to explain; are you sure you reached my line? I also have my proof when you present yours against Muhammad (AS), I will present mine to destroy yours. While you are the magicians of Pharaoh, I am like the Moses (AS), whose real snake will swallow your make belief lies! 5.did mohammed abrogate the "no compulsion in religion"and the one where he enjoined his followers to let the christians and jews alone save the polytheist with the sword verses??yes or no without explanation,if no i have proof of the sword verses.No. Now present your proofs, since I will tell you the truth about that verse in Surah Baqarah, an obvious Madina Surah, towards the end of the life of the prophet, a Surah that also talked about Ribah! See am giving the evidence away, but there is more to this than what I just gave! i dont have time for stories,simply answe these questions straight direct and i will post the second set of questions, your quran is full of gaping holes and contradictionsIf you provide relevant questions needing yes or no answers, you will get it as such! But when you ask if a husband has the right to sleep with his wife, a daughter of say "Adenuga", whom he and her willing participated in her marriage, in her acceptance for a husband, I think one should ask you if there was a reasonable explanation that you have for asking considering when you are asked to tell us when was she born relative to her father coming to wealth, and assuning he became wealthy in 1990, and you are saying that the Okoya cant marry her? Lol. An 18 year old woman today is matured and you can take that to the bank. I will marry one if you can offer me my type, only to make your heart sad or sink the more! [Quote]you are right sire,its just a pity that mohammad and the allah who has gone on an extended break for the past hundreds of years started leading his followers astray a long time before we were born, hence the several bloodshed both in suicide bombing,and the early death of young girls who are forced to have sex as more or less babies following the path of mohammed [/quote]I am certain that the Jewish God or Gods and the Christian definitely Gods have gone on an even longer extended break! Remember Allah and His Messenger (AS), you big time Kufar of Christianity always claim that the religion of Islam, the Revealed Quran and indeed Muhammad (AS) are events more recently, than and after your old age long time archaic Jewish and Christendom, in the history of mankind! No? So I ask you; what have Jehovah/Yahweh combo, remember I am not saying Holy Ghost and or Son God here, so that you dont think I am making fun of your gods, done for you lately, except to debar you from marrying while allowing you to chase Morenike, and Iyabo and Jane and Chichi all over London, trying to get some? While you are trying to fidjet for a wrong answer, Allah through Muhammad (AS) by His Book and the actions of Muhammad (AS) honoring women, have not since 1960/1970s allowed me to participate in what was common in my time called proom, a kinda of sexual orgy common in my teenage period, in Nigeria. I think each of you Christians who was not a teenager at that time (lol) should ask anyone who was in your lives, and they wil tell you, if they escaped it, as long as they were Christians; and it happened in the afternoon, too, as long as it was weekends! And in your country called Nigeria, it was Allah and Muhammad that instigated Jacob Gowon and Odumegu Ojukwu to wage the Civil war? It was Allah and Muhammad that caused the Jews to bomb King David Hotel in Jarusalem where many British personnel died? It was Allah and Muhammad that caused the two world wars in Europe between mostly Christians? It was Allah that made Prince Charles perform uncountable illigal sex that ended his marriage? I am giving you what you will definitely must have heard about, and not the remote sillinesses that you call reposes! Ojukwu married Bianca, I married Zaynab, and while Ojukwu throws his wife out, I keep mine! I have no interest in divorcing my wife or wives at the drop of a hat! Is there a way you can blame Allah and Muhammad on your sexual perversions, or at least or the easy Lizzy sexual maladies that is an epidemic in the Christian communities of the world? |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 5:08pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
GODSON2009, for your questions, I will onward use the Qur’aan to answer you. I like to abide with the advice given by the Akh, Muhsin. Muslims have been told to engage people like you in a debate in the best manner, so when you persist in insulting our Prophet even after we have explained to you, then the word Kaafir (disbeliever) would not be in the Islamic lexicon if people like you are not around. So good of you continue to disbelieve in Muhammad, questioning why Allaah (your Creator) allowed him to have ‘the carnal knowledge of a nine year old girl’ whom we tell you was his wife. Saying why did he do this why did he do that… continue, good of you! So I will allow you to fight with the Qur’aan, which is the strongest proof of the Prophethood of Muhammad, if you can stand it. The Qur’aan is the greatest weapon of a Muslim. If you are a man, do not skip it just read the verses, any way you claimed you have read it before. Allaah (the Lord and Creator of Jesus) says: “…but strive against them (by preaching) with the utmost endeavour, with it (the Qur'ân)” [Q25: 52]. As for your doubts and misconceptions about Islam: Allaah says: “Truly, the religion with Allâh is Islâm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh, then surely, Allâh is Swift in calling to account.” [Q3: 19] And He says: “ (O you Christians and Jews) mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth [i.e. Muhammad Peace be upon him is Allâh's Messenger and his qualities are written in your Scriptures, the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] while you know (the truth).” [Q2: 42]. And if you persist in your rage, O GODSON: “ (then )perish in your rage. Certainly, Allâh knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets).” [Q3: 119]. But you must know: “And the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) differed not until after there came to them clear evidence. (i.e. Prophet Muhammad and whatever was revealed to him). And they were commanded not, but that they should worship Allâh, and worship none but Him Alone (abstaining from ascribing partners to Him), and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give Zakât: and that is the right religion. Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islâm, the Qur'ân and Prophet Muhammad) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews andChristians) and Al-Mushrikûn will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.” [Q98: 4-6]. So you have no excuse for your disbelief, O GODSON. You have been warned. But know: “And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith (in Allaah and Muhammad), but most of them are Al-Fâsiqûn (disobedient to Allâh - and rebellious against Allâh's Command).” [Q3: 110]. And if you persist in your slander of the Prophet, you are not the first and you are not going to be the last but know that: “For he who makes you angry (O Muhammad), - he will be cut off (from every good thing in this world and in the Hereafter)” [Q108: 3]. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 8:27pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
littleb:lol what has my motive got to do with the cold stark truth? didnt your mohammad,and sucessive followers pour vitriol on christians even untill today,do you see anyone complaining? i have given everyone on here ample chance to respond to my questions,but each time they either ignore the question and counter with some worn out mantra about the triune i.e olabowale's style or they go into long winded one full page quranic recitation,as if i asked for a sermon,me and olabowale and other guys have been on the same thing for almost 15 pages with no headway,there fore i believe the questions i have posed had a yes or no answer. irrespective of the reasons surrounding it,if i ask you are you male? your answer will be yes, you might now start explaining that your parents were expecting a girl and bla bla, |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 9:03pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
abulbanaat:i wouldnt blame you really if you decide to desist from engaging me in a debate,because frankly if i was defending mohammad and all that he did,i will be tired and back off after a while as well,the man has given other religions even polytheists more than enough armour to fight his followers lol i continue to insult your prophet because first morally he did not behave like a prophet,second he was full of contradictions all through his life,third he was a remorseless murderer and leading about 1 billion people astray, straight into hell,the cherry on the cake is sleeping with a 9 years old baby girl and his followers including aisha had the guts to include it in the quran as an example for you to follow which you are doing, yes,i know about the greater jihad, that of the mouth and of the hand next!! So I will allow you to fight with the Qur’aan, which is the strongest proof of the Prophethood of Muhammad, if you can stand it. The Qur’aan is the greatest weapon of a Muslim. If you are a man, do not skip it just read the verses, any way you claimed you have read it before. Allaah (the Lord and Creator of Jesus) says: “…but strive against them (by preaching) with the utmost endeavour, with it (the Qur'ân)” [Q25: 52]. [/quote]turn the quran 3;110 around,you are the ones that need salvation not the christians,to prove my assertion to you,mohammad has been dead for hundreds of years now,how come nobody has been able to replicate his many exploits?? you muslims dont perform miracles,you dont do signs and wonders,even the night vigil you hurriedly started copying us when you saw the crwod in winners and redeemed, im guessing the next thing you ll say is that the miracles are arranged,well what about the onces in the us which independent doctors confirmed as real, ill challenge you to read and study the bible like i have studied the quran then see if you ll be the same thing, shalom |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 9:38pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
O GODSON, well I had prepared what I will send now before I saw your latest usual hasty generalization. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 9:42pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
I could not still resist the urge to answer some of the questions GODSON had recently raised though I had promised to leave him with the Qur’aan . But when I re-read his points again I was amazed at his ignorance. Muhsin, please pardon me this time. Yes I understand you analogy about Abu Taalib’s case, that the Prophet strove hard perhaps he would accept Islam but alas, such that Allaah revealed: “Verily! You (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allâh guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided.” [ Q28: 56]. But we should also remember that people like Abu Sufyan, Khaalid bn Waleed, Amr bn al-Aas, etc. (may Allaah be pleased with them all) were enemies of the dear Prophet for about 25 years, they fought him hard, they nearly killed him at Uhud (but truth must prevail) yet most of them later accepted Islam. In fact on the day Amr accepted Islam, he said: ‘O Messenger of Allah you were the most hateful personl to me before I entered Islam but now you are my most beloved.’ So GODSON and his friends here have only been fighting Islam just some few months back. And I want to believe those areas that seem to be grey to them are their last doubts, Insha Allaah, before they would become Muslims (if Allaah needs them, I sincerely pray so). So Muhsin let us give them the benefit of the doubt. And as he has partly not wanted me to give him long-winded answers (though his questions are long-winded too), I will make it snappy. Well I won’t go back to some issues again viz. The marriage of Prophet to Aisha at six, and the eventual consummation at nine – it was as decreed by Allaah. Had it been wrong the enemies of the Prophet then, the Arabs would have capitalized on it, but they did not. They knew the Prophet had married a woman by the standard of their culture. I want you to think on the sociological aspect of that, GODSON. Do you know what the sociologist call cultural relativism. If Islâm is full of gaping holes as you claim, O GODSON, it would have fizzled out. Those ‘holes’ that you refer to are meant to test people like you. The satanic verses is based on a story not authentic in Islam. There are lot of stories in Islam but not all of them are authentic. The compilation of the hadith on the least was carefully done, and there are principles regarding acceptability or otherwise of reports. This aspect of Islamic knowledge has its experts, GODSON, you cannot understand. I do not know how to help you understand. I am sorry for you are far from it. Islam commands fighting the unbelievers. That has been in the Divine Law since Allaah created the heaven and the earth. Moses, Solomon, David, etc. killed the unbelievers of their time, they smote their necks and they cut their fingertips. Had Allaah not decreed that Jesus’ Prophethood would go as it went (just three years, may Allaah bestow peace on Jesus ), he would have smitten the necks of the unbelievers of his time. For the umpteenth time, Qur’ân does not contain contradictions as does you Bible. Please bring those contradictions. Eg. A verse here says ‘four things’ and the other says ‘eight’ please bring one, O GODSON. As for the knowledge of abrogation, you cannot understand, not because you do not possess the Holy Ghost (as you claim about the Bible), but because you do not have the knowledge to. Islam is a religion of knowledge. I am sorry GODSON. Read what I said about Jihaad in that post, please read very carefully, O GODSON. May Allaah show you the light. “1. Did your prophet indulge in a free for all sexual proclivity?” No. He married women as did other Prophets like him. He did not even parallel Solomon. “2.did he covet and eventually take his adopted son's wife?” No. He was the one that ‘forced’ Zaynab to marry Zayd in the first place when the former did not want to. And when the marriage broke down, Allaah commanded him to marry Zaynab, to put an end to the taboo in the Arab culture that a man cannot marry the former wife of his adopted son; and to put an end to rights ancillary to child adoption in Islam. [Funnily you did not mention another allegation that the Prophet saw Zaynab’s unclothedness that was why he went ‘haywire’ about her. Don’t you subscribe to that opinion?] “3.did he sleep with slave girls,to the extent that his wives were murmuring?” Yes. Allaah made it permissible for him to sleep with his slave girls (Maryah and Rihaanah) (not slave girls of others) as Allaah made it permissible for Abraham to sleep with Hagar (Islam says Hagar was a slave girl of Ibrahim not of Sarah), and as He made it permissible for Solomon, and other Porphets. “4.did he assasinate a poet that satirized him and then later pay blood money?” I like to see the evidence for this, I am hearing it for the first time. But make sure it is not a fabricated or weak report. “5.did he murder people in cold blood?” Do you mean in war time? If yes people could be killed in cold blood in war time. What is known is that Islamic warfare (not as being portrayed by those Muslims you refer to as terrorists) has its rules. Non-combatants are not ordinarily killed, the elders, women, children, unless if guilt can be established against them, as it was done against the Jews of Banu Quraidha (and the likes). And that was even the Judaic Law in the latter case. “6.did he rob innocent traders?” That would be bad if he did. But do you mean the antecedent to the Battle of Badr. He only wanted to revenge the Makkans seizure of the Muslims wealth back in Makkah. Remember the Muslims were not allowed to take any of their property when they were living Makkah. So when Abu Sufyan was passing around Madinah with the goods of the Makkans from Syria, so it was an ample time for the Muslims to have just some of their own properties back from the Makkans. As for your claim that Christianity is the fastest going religion in the Nigeria whereby you cited examples of the attendance at the redemption camps, then I will say you have made the stupidest point so far. Do you count those who came into Christianity through the miracles which they never saw as serious Christians? When your comrades, here, have declared those redemption camps of your pastors as money-making centres, where the innocent ones are being covertly robbed of their wealth. And where are their miracles? Their Ayefele still can’t work, Obadare is still blind, Idahosa died after a cardiac arrest (they are still concealing that). I remember a pastor whose wife gave birth through a C.S. and he hid it from the members of his congregation (it was about seven years ago at Catholic Hospital, Apomu, Osun State). And don’t you know that those who become Christians among the Muslims are doing so because of economic hardship prevalent in the country. Let Nigeria gets a good leadership and see what will become of Christianity. No serious Muslim, who knows the Qur’aan and the Sunnah, would become a Christian. At least I have not seen one. As for the likes you see, yes they are many. My mother was once one of them. She is late now, and Alhmadulillah she died a Muslimah; about for years before her death, she began to believe in Oneness of Allaah, and she began to pray the Muslim way. She searched foe miracles from one church to the others until it became clear to her that it is on Allaah one should depend. In fact she saw the joy of the reliance before she died. May Allaah forgive her of her shortcomings. How I wish she is alive today, and she will enjoy more, for we too are not riff-raff as our Christians neighbours have threatened we would be. In fact they are jealous of us today. Alihamdulillah ala ni’mati-hi. And you still say, Christianity is the fastest religion in US. Are you not in the UK? Don’t they beg people to come to church on Sundays? Open your heart. Once again, men and women are spiritually the same in Islam but physically different. Women are better of in Islam than Christianity if you but know. One of the last means of correcting a stubborn wife is by beating which will not leave any mark on her. And it is the last option, and still Muslims men are told that not to beat their wives (at all for any reason, as the Prophet had counselled ) is better. That is the Divine Law. And in other places (I mean even in your Christianity) men still beat their women till the point of death. Don’t say you don’t know, O GODSON. O often do we hear of a husband killing his wife in the Western countries? Quran 33;28: “O Prophet (Muhammad)! Say to your wives: If you desire the life of this world, and its glitter, Then come! I will make a provision for you and set you free in a handsome manner (divorce).” There the Prophet’s wives began to make too-much worldly demand on the Prophet, so Allaah called them to order. Is that what you mean by their grumbling? Well they were humans. ‘as for taking his step son's wife to himself’ The Prophet did not take his step son rather Allaah commanded him to marry the former wife of his former adopted son. See the difference. The Jews did not accept Muhammad as a bonafide Prophet even though they knew he was. They thought their claimed closeness with Allaah would save them on the Day of Resurrection: “And they (Jews) say, "The Fire (i.e. Hell-fire on the Day of Resurrection) shall not touch us but for a few numbered days." Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him to them): "Have you taken a covenant from Allâh, so that Allâh will not break His Covenant? Or is it that you say of Allâh what you know not?"” [Q2: 80]. That is one of the reasons none of them did not accept Islam. But have you read about the Islâm of Abdussalam (a former Jew in the time of Muhammad), and Ka’b al-Aabar (after the Prophet died). Did you think the Prophet would go to Madianh to meet the Jews, if he were a false Prophet while he knew he they would expose him? [And have you read the answer I gave to Kola Oloye as regard his question about the five pillars of Islâm? Why is your heart so hard, O GODSON?] And should we use the same principle against Jesus? The Jews did not accept him as a bonafide Prophet, so they ‘killed’ him. “im not reffering to just battle of badr,which was officially or unofficially the first millitant jihad,i am reffering to the time mohammad arrived in yathrib or medina as it was later known,he could not farm,as the quraysh tribe where he was from were predominantly traders,hence he started raiding and stealing from innocent travellers to make ends meet the question is” Interesting, can you please bring your evidence. I am hearing that for the first time. And know that if you fail to produce you evidence then you are a liar, as usual. “well,the difference between the islamic millitants and the lords army in uganda e.t.c is that in the new testament there is nowhere GOD tells or enjoins his disciples to strive against unbeleivers,rather he highlights love and compassion at every opportunity.” So what about the Old Testamnet? Is the God of Old Testament different from that of New Testament? And does your statement absolve the Lords Army of Uganda? Why did you leave out the Crusades? Hey they were too brutal to be referred to Christianity. “yet we will continue to preach love and evangelize either you like it or not and we love you our brothers and sisters even if you hate us, and i know that makes you people really mad but tough!!!we love you” Do not pretend, where is the love? When you don’t want us in schools (like the southern universities), you do not want us in government offices. You forced some of our uncles to become Christians before they could be educated, etc. you do not love us, stop the lie. Allaah has exposed you: “Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him and the Muslims) till you follow their religion. Say: "Verily, the Guidance of Allâh (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism) that is the (only) Guidance. And if you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) were to follow their (Jews and Christians) desires after what you have received of Knowledge (i.e. the Qur'ân), then you would have against Allâh neither any Walî (protector or guardian) nor any helper.” [Q2: 120]. And your friends are the Jews, Allaah has warned us about you. That you have evil against us. You only expressed the so called love on you tongues: “O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.” [Q3: 118]. Please where is the Christian love for the Muslims in those Crudases? the socio-religious crises in the Northern part of Nigeria is a deep-rooted ones that i may not be able to explain here while I am not absolving the Muslims from total blame. The Chrsitians too have had their share. What will you say about the massacre of the Muslims by the Christians in the Zango-Kataf crises, and recently that of Jos. What you must know is that most of those crises are political in nature the politicians only used some unsuspecting Muslims and Christians to achieve their ends. How I wish GODSON, will open his heart, stop being stubborn against your Creator. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 10:01pm On Oct 10, 2009 |
olabowale: as usual,rather than answer the question,you come back with a counter question,the thing is that is it easier to ask questions,than actually answering potentially embarassing questions about your prophets? you have been recycling the same 6/7 or so points right from the get go,without answering just one of all the embarassing stuffs mohammad got up to, did jesus kill innocent people or rob people on the highway? did he sleep with young 9 yrs old girls? lets be honest,if you had two children and one was quiet,frugal e.t.c like jesus and the other was like a glorified area boy killing sleeping with girls e.t.c like mohammad who do you think any father will love more??go figure olabowale:guess yo dont get it then, as usual olabowale:i dont give a flying fig,when aisha was born,or when she started crawling,was she married off to mohammad at 6 yrs old or not?? did mohammad have sex with her at 9 years old or not?? bearing in mind he was 52 years old olabowale:why dont you say specifically which one you want me to prove??i have plenty so you ll have to choose,you know as well as i do i have posted more than enough,and i am willing to post them again and more lol olabowale:that isnt how this works,prove the questions and concerns concerning your mohammad while i rpove the one concerning my own , you are yet to answer the question i posted,all you have done is to counter with the same old recycled 4/5 questions hs women were jelouse because in spite of the 13 or was it ten sef,that he was married too,he still went snoping around for slaves, im sure you have heard the yoruba saying that never conduct business with a womaniser,so why should i take a womanising man serious as a prophet? olabowale:you know as well as i do that you have nothing new to show me,both in the ahadiths and qurans that you have not already done,i am not asking much,just a simple yes or no answer whcih wouldnt have taken this much room,as you are here gallivanting and bouncing about lol again,what proof exactly are you on about,mention them so that i can attach the necessary proofs i have olabowale:well,i beg to differ sire,all the questions have a yes or no answer clearly, the reason why it is bad and harmful and against all know humane conventions to sleep with a 9 years old is the vvf or whatever ailment where children who are not yet matured enough to have babies are being forced to do so, or is your allah happy that these girls will never be able to pee normally like their age mates in other areas?? is your allah ok with the fact thata 9 years old would have her childhood stolen and then permanently serve as the sperm tank of a man in his early to mid fifties? lastly what choice did a 6 years old girl have in whomsoever she got married to,much less being ready to have sex at 9 years old, pls answer these questions,so that we will know what mohammad and allah thinks of the guurls going through the pain of vvf olabowale:lets check a few instances of whose GOD is on an extended holiday, our own GOD defends himself,moreover he heals all that come to him i.e sicknesses,and other ailments e.t.c he heals cancer,deformities,even straightening deformed hands and legs,people wake up from the dead, i can give you instances of americans where you live so that you can check it out, now how has mohammad defended his own followers? your allah has falled asleep,hence yhis followers have to defend him by suicide bombing and the rest,you dont have any signs and wonders,ehnce yuou muslims are flocking to different revivals, there was even an islamic man who got his healing in dedemption camp,and then tuned around to say he was not going to convert to christianity,still pastor adeboye prayed for him and he was on his way lol pls indulge me and show me the islamic men and wome of god who have been doing signs and wonders, While you are trying to fidjet for a wrong answer, Allah through Muhammad (AS) by His Book and the actions of Muhammad (AS) honoring women, have not since 1960/1970s allowed me to participate in what was common in my time called proom, a kinda of sexual orgy common in my teenage period, in Nigeria. I think each of you Christians who was not a teenager at that time (lol) should ask anyone who was in your lives, and they wil tell you, if they escaped it, as long as they were Christians; and it happened in the afternoon, too, as long as it was weekends! [/quote]well for one,any christian who divorces under any guise needs to rededicate his or her life so count that out of christianity,secondly a real born again christian will stick with one single wife come what may,so now why dont you defend your mohammad and the sexual vices he indulged in, why dont you justify them?? |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by olabowale(m): 12:22am On Oct 11, 2009 |
@Godson2009: as usual,rather than answer the question,you come back with a counter question,the thing is that is it easier to ask questions,than actually answering potentially embarassing questions about your prophets?Whats embarrassng is your dishonesty! I asked you about Verse 28 of Acts 4, where Jesus is said to be a servant, you laughed. Dis I want to see 32 or a yes he is a servant or no he is not but God, so that I can turn loose the Acts people on you, head to head! you have been recycling the same 6/7 or so points right from the get go,without answering just one of all the embarassing stuffs mohammad got up to,Se o mo wipe aiye lo bami? Ayinike lo mo, ayini pada ju yen lo. So when you are saying recycling, there was your modus operandi. Did Jesus kill anyone? He killed a tree. He drown pigs and he was ready to fight except that the Jews came as a huge mob, with overwhelming conventional advantage, many many people over that the 12 apostes, less Judas and the deniers, and the doubters on the sie of Jesus cant do nothing. Otherwise it would have been a bloodbath, or can you explain what Sword was being used for, instead of "bags"? Let me tell you, one sword in the hand of Zorro can kill a whole country! Lol. did he sleep with young 9 yrs old girls?My younger son will be 23 n November. Yet I could marry a mature 18 year old woman! Now that explains everything. A wife is a wife, is a wife! lets be honest,if you had two children and one was quiet,frugal e.t.c like jesus and the other was like a glorified area boy killing sleeping with girls e.t.c like mohammad who do you think any father will love more??go figureFrugality is not a good thing, unless it has a good purpose. Not being married at some adult age is a terrible thing. Neither fits a normal and moderate person. Ohsisi, I dey lie, since marriage is a good thing. Discuss this with your christian brethren, girl! |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 1:15am On Oct 11, 2009 |
abulbanaat:why dont you prove my ignorance for all to see,i asked you 4/5 simple and direct questions which required a simple yes or not,and you are going on and on with stories and litany of events and generic explanations lol abulbanaat:“Verily! You (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allâh guides whom He wills. And He knows best those who are the guided.” [ Q28: 56]. But we should also remember that people like Abu Sufyan, Khaalid bn Waleed, Amr bn al-Aas, etc. (may Allaah be pleased with them all) were enemies of the dear Prophet for about 25 years, they fought him hard, they nearly killed him at Uhud (but truth must prevail) yet most of them later accepted Islam. [/quote]stop being paranoid,the crusades were politicians who used christianity to cover up,even a secondary school history student will tell you that the knights templar were politicians abulbanaat:typical, so that is enough justification for the churches that have been continually burnt by muslims,and they continue to, ak anyone who wwitnessed the kano riots before you r talking about what you dont know about, the reprisal in the jos riots came about because these guys have had enough, boko haram is still there o |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 1:30am On Oct 11, 2009 |
olabowale:the point is not you asking a counter question, you are meant to answer my questions sire with a simple yes or no,, i will even allow a short explanation after whcih i will gladly answer yours olabowale:so again you are comparing the killing of a fig tree to the killing of hundreds of thousands which mohammad did am i to beleive that you are the same in equality to a fig tree then? j olabowale:[/quote] |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 6:07am On Oct 11, 2009 |
@GODSON, I swear by He Who has created me, your reply to my last post really made me laugh. How you evaded those serious questions I raised as counter-offensive. I know you are wounded, I know. I can read that from your writing. That is one of my aims, at least if you will not accept Islam, then you will be wounded in your faith in divinity of the servant, Jesus Christ. And you are. But: ‘Aja to ma s’onun koni gbo fere olode’ to borrow elder Olabowale’s style. So you don’t know that if the Prophet’s marriage with Aisha was wrong his Arab enemies would use that against him. You don’t know that the Jews in Madinah were not the ones that invited the Prophet there. And you don’t know that the Prophet defeated them intellectually, that was why they resorted to conniving with the idolaters in Makkaah against the Prophet. Still you blanketly said the Crusaders were not fighting a religious war. What a slap on an historical fact, O GODSON. Show me where God blamed Abraham and Solomon for their marital actions, if you cannot, then know it is not only the Prophet of Islam that you are slandering. So your crime is multi-faceted. So at last you partially agree that it was the antecedent of the Battle of Badr that you refer to as the case of the Prophet’s ‘robbery.’ I thought you said he was robbing some of the traders of Madinah. You do not know that Abu Sufyan was crossing the territory of the Muslims that was why they wanted to seize the goods he was carrying. And don’t you know that even in the modern secular law, you are not allowed to carry goods across a country not yours just like that. Say the Cameroonian government carries its goods across Nigeria, the goods will not go. Still you cannot explain why Yinka Ayefele is still on the wheel chair and the mentor of your Pastor Adeboye, Obadare, in Akure is still blind, even with all the miracles around. Rather you still came with mentioning more of money-making centers that you called churches. And I can see that you are defending the Pentecostal churches, saying as if catholic Church was not the Church that gave Christianity its doctrines after years of wrangling over whether Jesus was God or not, among other issues. Seun, the owner of this Forum, must hear this O. I think he is a catholic. And see your folly, in the case of that Pastor at Apomu, I did not say the pastor was a catholic in fact he is one of the pastors of the Pentecostal Churches around. He only took the case to the Catholic Hospital after he had ‘prayed and prayed’ for safe delivery of his wife but alas the woman could not ‘push’. So they hid the information from the Church members because they knew it would affect their business – claims for miracles. Lest I forget, can you bring out that story of the poet whom our Prophet killed. Bring it out for all to see, I cannot find it. Bring it out GODSON otherwise you receive another medal in your lying business. What else? Yes the contradictions in the Qur’aan, let me guide you. Say in verse so-and-so of so-and-so chapter Allaah said so-and-so and in another He said the contrary, bring one if you can. I bet it you cannot see one, even if you search from the beginning of the Qur’aan to the last. And I cannot understand one thing from you. Do you subscribe to those Christians that say Allaah is moon god? That He was one of the idols worshipped in Makkah? Do you? Please let me know, I have some questions for you. Once again go and read that post I sent to Kola Oloye, and open your heart. And where are those Muslims that embraced Christianity, I mean the Shaykhs that we all know or on the least learners like me, I mean like mean. It is you that run away from us. I remember when I rediscovered Islam in Kaduna around 1996, on the street where I used to leave some Jehovah’s Witnesses (which I see as being better Christians, for they know the Bible are ready to accept some of the truths of the Qur’aan namely that Jesus is not God. Though they are also Kuffaar because they don’t recognize the Prophethood of Muhammad, among other things.) Their Kingdom Hall was just around where I stayed, every time they came out of their programmes they would swarm on our streets and our houses ‘preaching the gospel.’ We began to have encounters, then I was very good at Comparative Religion (I am no more because I don’t have time for it, I learn and preach Islam now that is why you will not see me quote a verse of the Bible here, but I know the stories in the Bible), it was not very long that these hot-gospellers (as Deedat used to call them) removed our own house from their points of call because they said ‘there is a boy there full of evil spirit.’ And I remember another pastor who visited our house then, he came from Ondo to Kaduna, to visit my uncle whom I was staying with. He derided my Islam when he found out my religion was Islam. That night of his visit, we spoke to the wee hours of the following day comparing Islâm with Christianity (then I was just back in the pristine Islam), he left our house disappointed and wounded (as you are here), he planned to stay for some days but abruptly left the following day lest he became a Muslim. So you are the ones that run away from us. So the Muslims have known their religion now, you are exposed! ‘Afefe ti fe a ti furo edie.’ (Apology to elder Olabowale). “Nay, We fling (send down) the truth (this Qur'ân) against the falsehood (disbelief), so it destroys it, and behold, it (falsehood) is vanished. And woe to you for that (lie) which you ascribe (to Us) (against Allâh).” [Q21: 18]. Any other thing? 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 6:13am On Oct 11, 2009 |
GODSON, for the last time read this lest you are destroyed and undertand: @kola oloye ‘What is the genesis and significance of "the five pillars of Islam". The five pillars of Islâm are: One: Testifying that Allaah is the Only Supreme Being worthy of worship in truth, and that Muhammad is His Messenger (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam). Evidence for that abound in the Qur’ân. The significance of that is that people will know that Allaah (those who still refer to Him as one of the idols in Makkah are only celebrating their ignorance; do you say the Arabs never knew that there is a Supreme Being?) Only is the Creator that all forms of worship are supposed to be directed to, and that Muhammad is the last of Allaah’s Messengers and Prophets (not as being loosely used in Xtianity) whose explanation of divine phenomenon, as revealed to him, must be listened to. Muslims know that they cannot worship Allaah adequately unless the follow the Messenger of Allaah (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam). Closely associated with the above is belief in the following: Belief in the angels – Jibreel, Mikail, Israfeel, Maalik, Malakul-Maut (angel of death) Munkar, Nakir, etc. (Only Allaah knows their number.) Belief in all the Messengers and Prophets of Allaah (Allaah’s peace on them all). No Muslim will disbelieve in a Prophet of Allaah, say Jesus (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam), and remains a Muslim. (Muslims are in a better condition). Belief in the Heavenly Books – Torah, Zabur, Injeel and the Qur’aan (that confirms, or otherwise, of other Books.) Belief in the Last Day (when the truth of Islâm as the religion of all the Prophets, among other things, will be resolved by the Judge - Allaah). And belief in preordainment (Qadar), that Allaah had foreknowledge of what would be and what would not be; that I am typing these lines now had been preordained. The Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) has said the first thing Allaah created was the Pen, and He said to it: ‘Write,’ the Pen asked: ‘What should I write?’ He said write all what will be till the end of time.’ So all that is, whether good or bad, Allaah had the foreknowledge of them. Our Lord is a Mighty Lord, Above is He from all false things He has been described with. The points above constitute the bedrock of the Aqeedah (Creed) of a Muslim. The second pillar is observance of the Salat (Prayer). It is a commandment from Allaah that the Muslims must observe the Salat five times a day (Sub’h, Dhuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Ishaa). “Perform AsSalât from mid-day till the darkness of the night (i.e. the Zuhr, 'Asr, Maghrib, and 'Ishâ' prayers), and recite the Qur'ân in the early dawn (i.e. the morning prayer). Verily, the recitation of the Qur'ân in the early dawn is ever witnessed (attended by the angels in charge of mankind of the day and the night).” [Q17: 78]. Observing the Salat is a means of seeking nearness to Allaah; and they are meant to mould a Muslim in his daily life: “, and perform As-Salât. Verily, As-Salât (the prayer) prevents from Al-Fahshâ' (i.e. great sins of every kind, unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.) and Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism, and every kind of evil wicked deed, etc.)” [Q29: 45] The Salat is very important in a Muslim life that whoever does not observe it, wholly and knowingly, and calls him/herself a Muslim is not. The Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) has said: ‘Between a man and his becoming an unbeliever or a polytheist is when he leaves off the Salat. Whoever leaves off the Salat has disbelieved.’ (Authentic hadith). We have other obligatory Salawat apart from the five mentioned above, an example of that is Salatu Jumah (observed once in a week – Fridays; it is not compulsory for women to attend). There are other supererogatory Salat called Naafilah – that accompany the daily Salawat and the pre-dawn prayer (Tahajjud). There occasional Salawat like the Prayers on the occasion of the two Eids (Adh’a and Fitr); Prayer for rain, prayer when there is eclipse, etc. The Nawafil are optional. It is noteworthy that the number of times a Muslim will observe the Salat in a day was given by Allaah to His Messenger in the latter’s momentous and historic journey to the heavens (Israa wa Miraaj). All the Christians on this Forum would instantly add that to another ‘lies’ of Al-Ameen (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam), poor them. Well unbelievers’ lot are to disbelieve, carry on. The Jews disbelieved, and are still disbelieving, in Jesus Christ (and the Christians loved, and love, them more than the Muslims, what an irony!). [All the Arabs used to know the Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) as Al-Ameen (the trustworthy one; he never told a lie in his life) but they called him a liar when he told them there is only one God. Was it possible that someone who did not tell a lie when dealing with people would tell lie when referring to God? Unbelievable.] The third pillar is fasting in the month of Ramadan (the ninth month of Islamic calendar). “O you who believe! Observing As-Saum (the fasting) is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).” [Q2: 183]. So it is glaring from the above verse that fasting in Ramadan was commanded so that Muslims will learn more piety. And it is so. Imagine a fasting Muslim who refrains from eating and having intimacy with his wife while he has the power to do such, especially the former, in secret without anybody bringing him to book, but he will not do that because he knows that the Supreme Being sees him. That is it. Fasting can also be obligatory or supererogatory. Muslims do not fast in Ramadan alone. Thus fasting is another means of seeking nearness to Allaah (the Mighty and Sublime). The fourth pillar is paying the Zakat. “And perform As-Salât, and give Zakât, ” [Q2: 43]. So giving the Zakat is obligatory on the rich Muslims those whose wealth has gone beyond the Nisaab (the minimum standard of wealth from which Zakat can be given). The Nisaab, which today is according to the gold value, is around N250,000 now (subject to confirmation please). A rich Muslim who has more than that amount in his savings for a whole year without touching it will pay 2.5 per cent of it as Zakat, and they are meant for: “, the Fuqarâ' (poor), and Al-Masâkin (the poor) and those employed to collect (the funds); and for to attract the hearts of those who have been inclined (towards Islâm); and to free the captives; and for those in debt; and for Allâh's Cause (the necessary and obligatory warfare), and for the wayfarer (a traveller who is cut off from everything); a duty imposed by Allâh. And Allâh is All-Knower, All-Wise.” [Q9: 60]. When the Zakat is properly managed and administered by the Islamic Community, then you will see how Allaah uses the Muslims to enrich one another. Some Islamic countries like Saudi Arabia are trying in this regard. And if you read the verse above carefully, you will notice that it is not even only the Muslims that receive the Zakat. In a Muslim State, non-Muslims who are called people of the books (viz. Xtians and Jews) are not to pay Zakat but will pay Jizyah (for the security they receive from the Islamic state). When Jesus comes back (as certain he will come back, no good Muslim will deny this, he will remove the Jizyah because by then the non-Muslims namely the Christians (alive then) will have no option but to become Muslims. You will laugh, GODSON et all, won’t you? That is the truth from our LORD - Allaah. “And he ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)] shall be a known sign for (the coming of) the Hour (Day of Resurrection) [i.e. 'Iesa's (Jesus) descent on the earth] . Therefore have no doubt concerning it (i.e. the Day of Resurrection). And follow Me (Allâh) (i.e. be obedient to Allâh and do what He orders you to do, O mankind)! This is the Straight Path (of Islâmic Monotheism, leading to Allâh and to His Paradise).” [Q43: 61]. The non-obligatory aspect of Zakat is what is called Sadaqah, voluntary alms, which is an everyday activity of a Muslim. The last pillar is going on hajj. The Muslims have evidence for Hajj they go to, we do not copy people. But people copy us. “, And Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka'bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allâh, those who can afford the expenses (for one's conveyance, provision and residence); and whoever disbelieves [i.e. denies Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah), then he is a disbeliever of Allâh], then Allâh stands not in need of any of the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinns).” [Q3: 97]. Non-Muslims should know that the institution of Hajj had been a commandment handed down by Allaah to Ibrahim (Abraham) – the Father of Faith. “And (remember) when We showed Ibrâhim (Abraham) the site of the (Sacred) House (the Ka'bah at Makkah) (saying): "Associate not anything (in worship) with Me, [Lâ ilâha ill-Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh Islâmic Monotheism], and sanctify My House for those who circumambulate it, and those who stand up for prayer, and those who bow (submit themselves with humility and obedience to Allâh), and make prostration (in prayer, etc.);” [Q22: 26]. “And (remember) when Ibrâhim (Abraham) and (his son) Ismâ'il (Ishmael) were raising the foundations of the House (the Ka'bah at Makkah), (saying), "Our Lord! Accept (this service) from us. Verily! You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.” [Q2: 127]. Note, Oh Christians, that the Arabs whom the Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) met in Makkah never denied that fact even though they would have denied it as they did for other facts, because they knew it was nothing but the truth. But you Christians, here and in other places, you open your mouths and say Ka’bah ‘is a house in Makkah that houses a god called Allaah.’ “Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing. Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins” [Q19: 89-90]. It is stated in the Bible (get it right now, the Bible is an admixture of words of God and men [some of you have confirmed that on other threads]; Muslims believe in what comes from God there as confirmed by the Qur’ân and the authentic narrations from the Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) [like here O Israel our God is One] and we dsibeleive in what comes from men [e.g. that Jesus is God or that he is son of God {may Allaah be glorified from that}], so please take note.) so it is stated (in the Bible) that Abraham was commanded to take Ishmael (Isma’eel) and his mother (Haajar) away. To where? Please we need your answer. Meanwhile Islâm has answered that: Allah said quoting Ibrahim: “O our Lord! I (Ibrahim) have made some of my offspring to dwell in an uncultivable valley by Your Sacred House (the Ka'bah at Makkah); in order, O our Lord, that they may perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât), so fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allâh) provide them with fruits so that they may give thanks.” [Q14: 37] Notice Ibrahim’s supplication for Makkah in the verse. Will you understand, O Christians? So a nation has been born through Islâm Muhammad, a grandson of Ishmael, brought as commissioned by Allaah. The nation is a great one, as the Bible (the one that comes from God) attests to; and the Jews are highly Jealous of it, as it (the Bible) also says. So Ka’abah was the first house of worship on the surface of the earth. “Verily, the first House (of worship) appointed for mankind was that at Bakkah (Makkah), full of blessing, and a guidance for Al-'Alamîn (the mankind and jinns).” [Q3: 96] Back to the issue of hajj being the last pillar of Islâm. It is obligatory on capable Muslims to go on Hajj: “That they may witness things that are of benefit to them (i.e. reward of Hajj in the Hereafter, and also some worldly gain from trade, etc.), and mention the Name of Allâh on appointed days (i.e. 10th, 11th, 12th, and 13th day of Dhul-Hijjâh), over the beast of cattle that He has provided for them (for sacrifice) (at the time of their slaughtering by saying: Bismillah, Wallâhu-Akbar, Allâhumma Minka wa Ilaik). Then eat thereof and feed therewith the poor who have a very hard time. Then let them complete the prescribed duties (Manâsik of Hajj) for them, and perform their vows, and circumambulate the Ancient House (the Ka'bah at Makkah).” [Q22: 28-29]. So the hajj is also for spiritual development of the Muslims. The non-obligatory hajj is called Umrah – it can be performed any period out of the Hajj months (the Hajj months are Shawwal, Dhul-Qi’dah and up to tenth day of Dhul-Hijjah). But it is best performed in Ramadan. Go to Hajj and see equality par excellence. In Hajj all Muslims (heads-of-state, peasants, traders, labourers, etc) stand, walk, pray side by side. There is no Muslim that will go on Hajj except that his Faith will increase. The Prophet (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) has said a hajj performed by a Muslim whereby he avoids all forms of sins (arguments, fighting, sexual intimacy with one’s wife {when adorning the Ihraam}) has no reward except that the person will come back like the day his mother gave birth to him – a sinless state. Allahu Akbar! (We do not need somebody’s blood). These are what we the Muslims worship our Lord with, we are happy we are so guided, we implore those who are not Muslims to reason alongside their Creator so that they know what He wants from them, not what they want from Him. [‘Inu midun pe moje Muslim’ (I am happy I am a Muslim)]. Peace unto those who follow the guidance. NB: (sallallâhu ’alayhi wa sallam) means: May Allaah exalt his mentioning, and bestow him peace. GODSON, hey GODSON, leave misguidance and follow guidance. 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by Abuzola(m): 5:43pm On Oct 11, 2009 |
'and even if We had sent down to you (O muhammad) a message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said,' this is nothing but pure magic' Quran 6:7 |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 7:42pm On Oct 11, 2009 |
GODSON O, where are you? |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 8:39pm On Oct 11, 2009 |
GODSON O, where are you? |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by Abuzola(m): 8:49pm On Oct 11, 2009 |
'and even if We had sent down to you (O muhammad) a message written on paper so that they could touch it with their hands, the disbelievers would have said,' this is nothing but pure magic' Quran 6:7 |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 11:52pm On Oct 11, 2009 |
@abulbanaat you are the first islamic comedian i have come across lol the fact that you reply with long winded retorts point to the fact that you are struggling to defend and justify your fraudulent prophet and religion, i remember those days in secondary school when i commited an offence and my dad called me to defend myself before i got caned,i will weave all sorts of stories for like an eternity and this is what you are doing. i answered your question directly that if the enemies of mohammad did not take him up on the fact that he was a paedophile that does not justify his actions, does the fact that mohammad killed innocent traders and also arranged for assasinations without eyebrows raised justify these actions as well? remember that these days a lot of barbaric and evil things were condoned not because people accepted it ,but because they could not do much, the fact that bin laden is still not captured several years later,does it mean that he is generally accepted??go figure!! abulbanaat: i know they invited him to medina to oversee the warring tribes because of his religious and military clout,which in fairness he did,however he spoilt it all by being devious and making sure that he ran the three main jewish tribes out of medina for no fault of theirs,and if you are talking of conivng,mohammad was the king of connivance which he did with outsiders to try and overthrow the meccan leadership,that was what drove him out of mecca in the first place abulbanaat:to illustrate my point,is osama bin laden fighting in your cause of islam?? are the boko haram fighting in the cause of islam? i await your response oabulbanaat Show me where God blamed Abraham and Solomon for their marital actions, if you cannot, then know it is not only the Prophet of Islam that you are slandering. So your crime is multi-faceted. [/quote]well while i really cant vouch for the veracity of your ittle tales by moonlight,if that pastor was sure of himself,then he would rather be trying to deliver you and then convert you, we christians are so secure in our religion that is why we dont care if you muslims shout yourselves hoarse pouring vitriol on us,you are the ones that will behead over anything said against your prophet,you will kill if anyone says anything about your mohammad,people have called jesus black,white green blue e.t.c we dont care because the believ is in our hearts i wil advice you muslims not to be soooo insecure and paranoid,and love everyone including your enemies like we do |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 7:42am On Oct 12, 2009 |
@ GODSON “you are the first islamic comedian i have come across lol the fact that you reply with long winded retorts point to the fact that you are struggling to defend and justify your fraudulent prophet and religion,” You call me a comedian. Do you really know what a comedy is? May be you go and read the Government Inspector and tell me what a comedy is. I am but explaining the truth to you so that you will not suffer everlasting perdition in the blazing fire. “, fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.” [Q2: 24]. And you always accuse us of long-winded response while yours too have been so. So you expect us to nod yes or no to everything you say. Do you think we are so daft. We must explain things to you so that you will have no excuse for your disbelief. “i answered your question directly that if the enemies of mohammad did not take him up on the fact that he was a paedophile that does not justify his actions,” I said if that was wrong by their moral standard they would not let him go. And what is even paedophilia ? do you understand English at all? The fact that you are in the UK (as you claim anyway) does not mean you will understand English. I challenge you to open a thread and let see whether Prophet Muhammad was really a paedophile. (I have started a thread challenging you on your alleged contradictions in the Qur’ân.) “i know they invited him to medina to oversee the warring tribes because of his religious and military clout,which in fairness he did,however he spoilt it all by being devious and making sure that he ran the three main jewish tribes out of medina for no fault of theirs,” So you did not read about the treachery of the Jewish tribes in Madinah against the Muslim State? You know you only want to pervert the truth. That is how people like you do – searching desperately to call a dog a bad name so as to hang it. Poor you. “and if you are talking of conivng,mohammad was the king of connivance which he did with outsiders to try and overthrow the meccan leadership,that was what drove him out of mecca in the first place” When it is an historical fact that the Makkans gave him the option of making him the King which he rejected. Another lie from you O Kadhaab (a great liar). Tactically you agreed the Crusades were by the Christians, let us leave whether they were right or not they were Christians fighting a holy war. Hey don’t forget the war was that of all Europe such that the Kings of Franc and Engalnd partook, hey GODSON. Once again show me in the Bible where God blamed the Father of Faith for his marital action, and that of Solomon. Your problem is that you don’t understand Arabic, and I laugh that somebody who does not understand the Arabic Language wanting to criticise a religion whose 90 per cent of its knowledge is still retained in the Arabic Language untranslated (because they are too much.) do you know the effort it will cost the translators to translate volumes like the Fat’hu Baari, Shar’u Muslim, Taaliq Shaakir ala Musnad Ahmad, to mention just a few. And each of them is about 20 volumes! So you just read some translated works and you begin to open your mouth. Don’t be silly (to borrow the elders’ style in Yoruba land.) “i dont have time for stories,was mohammed raiding innocent travellers or not,simple!!dont justify or start talking from both sides of your mouth abeg” You do not know that the Prophet actually established a state in Madinah, and all those things you call raids are normal actions of a state. Will you understand? (we may need to open another thread on that). Heal Yinka Ayefele first and your Obadare then let see, forget about those thousands of miracles that you claim which nobody can verify. Heal Ayefele and Obadare Oooooo! “THIS happened concerning the jewish tribe of bani nadir, and the name of the poet was kab ibn al ashraf who composed verses lamenting the defeat of the meccans,and satirizing mohammad,this enraged mohammad and he kab assasinated telling his henchmen who did the job that it would be ok to lie to gain the confidence of their victim in order to kill him, you can find the accounts in ibn ishaq 550-51 if you dont like that then step this wayyyyyy my favourite ahadith, bukhari 5;59-369 now smile if you are satisfied and tell everybody i am the most honest born again christian lol dont worry i am here to lecture you on your religion, i studied your ahadiths and quran, and i have more proofs olabowale and co will tell you i debate with hard incontrovertible facts sire” If it was Ka’b al-Ashraaf that you have been trying to mention all these days then you have gaffed. Ka’b was a Jew found guilty of conniving with the Makkaans against the Muslim State – and that was a treasonable offence which no government of today will stand. That he satirised the Muslims especially the Muslim women in his poems is another. That enough can pass as a crime if it is meant to undermine the people of a state such that it will cause unrest among them. Once again, the Prophet was the head of a new state that evolved out of chaos, and one of those causing the chaos was Ka’b al-Ashraaf. (If you can read Arabic read Ibn Kathir’s Fusuul Fee Seerati Rasuul [p.143]) . go and read it, but it is in Arabic O. I can’t help you with the translation. “yes i can sire, again let me disgrace you, in the quran53;19-23 meccan side he spoke in support of polytheists,and then turned round to enjoin you his folowers not to mix with polytheists and all that, i have a bowl of yoghurt ice cream in my hands as i am typing so i cant get the verse where mohammad tells you not to wbe like the polytheists” I shall transport this to the thread i have opened on the subject, meet me there. “what has this got to do with the fact of what mohammad did?dont distract me pls, i have directly answered your questions/challenges with proof now get ready to answer my yes or no questions i have been asking since” So you are confused whether Allaah is one of the Makkan idols or not. Do not leave your comrades like the phantom G.J.O. Morshay in this principle. “there arnt much christians who accept islam,simply for the practical aspects talk les of the spiritual, this is evidenced by the many churches springing up all over nigeria,for each mosque in the whole of nigeria even west africa,you will get 2 standard sized churchs for each mega mosque,you will get one mighty sized redemption camp which can hold more than 1 million ppl, im sure you heard the last holy ghost conference i nigeria just some months ago had more than 1 million people in attendance,” A question for you: In Nigeria, who are in the majority, Muslims or Christians? With proof o. “ pls apart from the occultic gathering clled hajj where blood is always shed where else can an islamic gathering get that number of adherents, by the way i believe earnestly that there is something demonic about hajj, if not why is it that people must die every single year,its either they are trampled upon or something of that nature, you dont hear ppl dying i jerusalem pilgrimage my supposition is that maybe it is the kaba idols untill you muslims started bowing down to the image as your own idol; “ I think what I wrote to Kola Oloye will answer this go and read it again. ‘A ni se Afefe ti fe a ti ri furo edie.’ (Apology to elder Olabowale). “Nay, We fling (send down) the truth (this Qur'ân) against the falsehood (disbelief), so it destroys it, and behold, it (falsehood) is vanished. And woe to you for that (lie) which you ascribe (to Us) (against Allâh).” [Q21: 18]. Any other thing? 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by muhsin(m): 12:27pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
Salam, No any problem, abulbanaat. I understand your point. And may Allah, the Exalted, bless and reward you handsomely for the great job, amen. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by GODSON2009(m): 3:19pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
muhsin:so you are only praying for your co believer?i though unbelievers required more prayers |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by muhsin(m): 3:37pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
GODSON2009: Thats true; but not in such a scenario. Any way, may Allah, the Exalted, guide you to the straight and right path, ameen. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by alimat2(f): 3:46pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
@muslims I will advice u free this guy called godson,he is not ready to be guided to the rite path. He dat Allah guides will never go astray and he that go astray will never get the rite path. I will suggest if u can use your time to educate more on Islam instead of wasting on people that are not ready to be guided |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by Abuzola(m): 5:54pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
may ALLAH help us through amin |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by abulbanaat(m): 9:44pm On Oct 13, 2009 |
@alimat Your advice is a golden one but you must know that it is not GODSON alone that we address here, we are reaching out to thousands of Muslims who may have one way or the other been affected by the calumnies people like GODSON spread about. Thus this will serve as a means of reposing confidence in them, and to cause the non-Muslims everlasting perdition if they do not accept Islam. And we should not lose hope on the GODSON-like people too, perhaps Allaah may soften their hearts. I know of a sister who is out of Nigeria now who used to be a 'conc' Christian, brothers that Allaah used to bring her back to Islam said then whenever they discussed Islam with her, she would 'beat her chest confidently for Christ' not knowing that she was being wounded from within, at last she accepted Islam. It was very surprising to those brothers. Now the sister has committed the whole Qur'aan into memory (so I learnt) and she can speak perfect Arabic. Actually there are some other threads wherein we teach ourselves Islam, you can check them out. @Muhsin, do not mind GODSON, he is marvelling at our sense of brotherhood. Please I need more of your prayers, 1 Like |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by muhsin(m): 4:19pm On Oct 17, 2009 |
Alhamdulillah. |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by Kazil1(m): 1:57pm On Oct 15, 2013 |
Is there any huja 4 dis word "karaam Allahu wajhahu" |
Re: Ask Me About Islam by Smartdoy(m): 4:29pm On Oct 21, 2014 |
Please I need Arabic softwares that can help me not only to be able to read Arabic because I can do that but that will help me get the intonations right... |
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