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| ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by ElRazur: 5:39pm On May 17, 2010 |
Yeah get a grip. As to why you want a submissive woman is beyond me. Surely, you would want your woman to have a mind of her own? I mean, I have read many post on here at my free time and the amount of drivel some male and female come out with are just pathetic. I don't know what gives people this impression that a woman should be submissive. The more I try to find a reason, the more it start to dawn on me, that it is nothing but big ego of these type of men talking. I had a look at a thread in which someone was asking advice on how to make her man love her more, and some of the replies just leaves a lot to be desired. One is force to ask question if some male will just drop their big ego for one second, and try to see things from the view point of a female or a neutral position. Why the need for submission? To be submissive in a relationship in the context in which it is used around here appears to be doing the will of the male without questioning his motives. I sometimes feel this is probably a cultural thing and a very bad one. If I am dating a woman, I do not want her to be submissive - not in the context it used here or how we are brought up with it from home. I feel a relationship is a two way thing and no one side should exert their will on the other or demand others to do their will. Just as a recap, all you men demanding submission in your woman. Or wanting it as part of their quality. Abeg make una go somewhere siddon jare. Women are humans just like you and have a mind of their own, they do not have to submit to your will in a relationship.  |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Odunnu: 6:43pm On May 17, 2010 |
Maybe u have a wrong definition of 'submissive' |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by ElRazur: 6:44pm On May 17, 2010 |
Odunnu: I do? Please enlighten me. I tend to make mistake lately.  |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by BlakkBoi(m): 6:59pm On May 17, 2010 |
Mr. man I think you may have lost your sense manliness A woman is supposed to submit to her husband and any man asking for that is in line. You may have been cheated from desiring that by anyone you are currently putting up with but that is no excuse to relinquish your right to a submissive woman. Get a grip on your manliness dude!. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Nobody: 7:01pm On May 17, 2010 |
people will like what they like I guess |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Macgreat(m): 7:40pm On May 17, 2010 |
interestopia  |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Odunnu: 7:48pm On May 17, 2010 |
ElRazur:Sorry,had 2attend 2somthn. Back 2 'submissive'.I'd try as much as possible not 2refer u 2d holy book as I try 2xplain 'submissive' in d context of relationshp. Hold on i'm coming! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Macgreat(m): 7:50pm On May 17, 2010 |
Yeah, She;s coming, you wait |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by no1madman(m): 8:09pm On May 17, 2010 |
una no understand d bible at all. .simply put,God said "husbands and wives should submit to one another". |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Odunnu: 8:13pm On May 17, 2010 |
Macgreat:U said ths so dat d egoistic El wil feel bad waitin 4a woman abi?ur plan no go work. @Topic,submissive doesnt mean she turns out a 'remote control' it means she accepts u completely as d guy who holds d final say upon her and dat is why its of paramount importance Elrazur marries a woman he respects and adores,If and when he does,he tends 2wds d happiness of d woman and satisfying her evry need. Nw, dat woman naturally falls in line wt evry vision/ambition of d husband and fights endlessly 2bring out d best in him and she does this by totally being submissive 2d husband. Hop I jst made sense? I dey come! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by stuffs4me(m): 9:10pm On May 17, 2010 |
Hold on i'm coming! she says she's coming  or is she gushing?  |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Igwe9(m): 12:10am On May 18, 2010 |
How do I explain to atheist that God said woman should be submissive to the Husband?  |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Odunnu: 6:08am On May 18, 2010 |
Igwe,is EkRazur anti-God? ElRazur, are u an atheist 4 real? |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Igwe9(m): 1:02pm On May 18, 2010 |
Odunnu:I don't think he is, but wouldn't say the same thing for the post, it really does sound like that of an atheist, innit? |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by ElRazur: 6:32pm On May 18, 2010 |
BlakkBoi: So I lost my mind for having a different view from you? I lost my "manliness" because I respect my woman and do not treat her as "my property" but my equal and the love of my life? Okay I think, I get you now. No a woman is should not submit to the will of a man. Any man asking for that is noting but an egomaniac. Let us turn this around, will be a problem if you have to submit to the will of a woman just the same way? Also who gives you the unquestionable right and authority that a woman should submit to you? A for this statement you made - "You may have been cheated from desiring that by anyone you are currently putting up with but that is no excuse to relinquish your right to a submissive woman." - what does it mean? No men like you should get a grip I think. Odunnu: Accepting someone do not mean one have to submit to their will. By the very concept of how submission is explained on this forum, and how it is enshrined in our culture is that a woman should behave in manner that suggest they are not even supposed to ask question, but do as told. To me, that is the exactly like how a remote control will be. As for the rest of your post, apologies, but I am finding it hard to understand. Igwe.: My views and belief have nothing to do with the debate. The problem here is that Men are constantly using the very word of God for their needs. Given your statement above, how is it any different to those who think Infidels are going to hell, because their word of God said so. 1 Like |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by sashaa(f): 6:33pm On May 18, 2010 |
@ poster u ar so right!! And 4 all of u dat ar demandn submission 4rm ur wives(yes wives and not g.f or any female u see) note dat d bible admonishes husbands 2 love their wives 1st! D love 4rm d husband is a prerequisite 4 d submission. How can u evn demand submission 4rm sum1 u treat like shit? Beats me. And lastly, d bible says d wife shuld follow d husband even as he follows Christ. So, u had better be yeildn 2 d will of d Lord b4 u ask dat of ur wife! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by ElRazur: 6:38pm On May 18, 2010 |
sashaa: You are still talking about submission, and it is interesting to see how the message have been drilled into most females from our culture, that they have to be submissive, and most will gladly do this. In a relationship, both sides are equal and no one should submit to the need of another. However, there should be a mutual understanding and the need to compromise when necessary. Making compromise, tolerating etc aren't the same as being submissive. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Nobody: 6:41pm On May 18, 2010 |
^^how far? |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by baybbootz(f): 6:45pm On May 18, 2010 |
EL I totally agree with you. I hate some dude's Egos!!!! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by neily(f): 7:54pm On May 18, 2010 |
If u said a humble wife, its ok, submissive? It depends on how u understand it. It does not mean u re not equal, or u don't have a mind of ur own. It means understanding that ur husband is the head of the family. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Faher(m): 8:17pm On May 18, 2010 |
I think respect is the right word. All I need is a woman that respects me, not a robot wife So, she'll respect my decision making as head of the family and advice as suitable. If my wife is always agreeable, I'll be scared. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Nobody: 8:49pm On May 18, 2010 |
Whteva happens a woman will ultimately submit(settle down)with d guy she feels who is "MAN" enof for her.they dont want to b ur equals dude.they r comfortabl wt being "women".its very natural and d rit tn too for a woman to b submissive to her man.eva beheld a scenario whr d reverse is d case? even mother earth will wish to blot out d bloody dude from its face asap. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by no1madman(m): 8:53pm On May 18, 2010 |
neily:right too. .submission is an act of love. .it's a mutual thing. . D fact dat a man is d head of d home doesnot mean he's superior, but because God has given him d responsibilty. .A family is an organization,and to operate smoothly,it needs a head. .Even Jesus has 1 he submits to as his head. (GOD). . . Also,husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. .He who loves his wife loves himself because a man and and his wife are no longer 2 but 1 flesh. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Odunnu: 9:27pm On May 18, 2010 |
Love,submirsive,obey,compromise,respect,etc U guys r jst playing wt words. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Faher(m): 9:38pm On May 18, 2010 |
Odunnu: I guess it's because we apply different meanings to the words. No matter what though, I believe most ladies won't date any guy who doesn't have a form of 'hold' over them. As for me, mutual respect is fine. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Igwe9(m): 10:33pm On May 18, 2010 |
ElRazur: I quite agree with you in the sense that the wife shouldn't be submissive to a good for nothing husband who does not know his left and right, only to drink and cause troubles here there, but why would any sensible woman marry such a man at first if not for a reason best known her of which she lives to regret at last? submissive in this context to me is nothing but the readiness for the wife to see her husband as king, the head of the family, listens to him when he is talking irrespective of who makes more money in the family, projects his name even when she's more intelligent than he's. People would rather respect a woman for the husband's wealth or his personality than the man for the wife's what have you. We only have one head in every family and that's the man, the success of any marriage chiefly depends on the man who's deemed as the head of the family,while the wife/wives is/are just there to assist . Nature has placed it like that, understand? ElRazur:just in the same vain the infidels who believe in nothing would likely end up into nothing,one who lives for nothing dies for nothing. don't you think? or how do you reconcile their destination to heaven when they never believed it existed while on earth. let me leave that of hell alone for now as nobody ever enters there by choice. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by kaypound(m): 10:43pm On May 18, 2010 |
1 Corinthians 13, explains all the questions of love, submissiveness, understanding or whatever words we want to play with to buttress our points. I believe if both parties in a marriage, courtship or friendship have a clear understanding of that part in the bible without being selfish in its interpretation for ones advantage, everyone will know his or her place in the relationship. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Ivynwa(f): 11:03pm On May 18, 2010 |
Elrazur, I was wondering whether you came across this post of mine yesterday in another thread. It's very good to see a man thinking the way you do and to give you more support on this topic, I am posting that my comment again here, some of our men have it all wrong and are making living hell for their women because of this misunderstanding so here it is again. It's high time somebody mentioned that even at the expense of being stoned by some. I beg to differ with this submissive thing not that I am challenging men. Relationships and marriage are all about two people respecting each other, when one of the party is disagreeing and is wrong at the same time, respect here means the other party arguing in love and trying to make the wrong partner over to the right path as gently and respectfully as possible to avoid heated arguments, nagging and unhappiness. A woman does not need to agree verbatim with a man when he is wrong in the name of submitting and making him feel like the head, she can still give her opinion respectfully. Should a woman close her eyes and watch her man lead their family astray because she has to submit? I believe that relationship and marriage is so much about loving and respecting each other to the point that there's no room for Mr. submission, if you love a woman you will not want to put her through stuffs that she hates but closes her eyes to in order to submit to you neither should she close her mouth when her man is doing dirty and risky deals. I'm not a feminist & neither am I saying this to spite men , I know how to compliment, respect and value the people around me and make them feel real appreciated.Our men are taking this submission thing to such levels that most men will go to a great length in search of a "yes woman" as a wife, it is very important to him that he can control her. What control? She is a human being like you, not a slave, not a servant. A mature human being does not need to control the people around him or his wife, just let her be as comfortable as you are in the relationship and you will have all her love. Will you rather your wife develops the fear of you and begin to detest you and not want you around, when you are nearing home her hearts beats faster. That is the unhappy condition many women in our country are living in. A person that desires to be submitted to,wants to be controlling and set out in search of a woman to control has some form of complex & lacks confidence. I know this will draw the ire of the unmatured ones here but yes somebody has to say this, if not now maybe in years to come because some of us have it all wrong. Us women already know that we need to make our men feel like the head of the family, submission is just not the word but respect is. Can't you see that that word is even making you naija men look like villains and bullies in the eyes of the world. Think hard about that! One love! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Faher(m): 11:18pm On May 18, 2010 |
Ivynwa: I'm a Nigerian male and I agree with your entire post, especially the words in bold. We Nigerian men need a change in mentality. |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Ivynwa(f): 11:45pm On May 18, 2010 |
You go Faher! Hands in the air!, It feels good to come across guys like you who have tremendous respect for women and do not need to subdue them to have their ego stroked. Men like you are the mature ones with capital M. Up Faher!, Up Elrazur!! Everybody make some noise, !!!!! |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by Faher(m): 11:57pm On May 18, 2010 |
Ivynwa: Well, I was raised in a family like the one you described and I loved it, so I'll tailor mine as such. My Mum fully respected my Dad even when things were bad and she also tried to help support the family with her decision making. There were major disagreements too but all in all my Dad never laid a hand on my mum (That's part of the attributes of being a man) |
| Re: ElRazur Says Men Wanting Submissive Women Should Get A Grip. by luap: 12:10am On May 19, 2010 |
Dear Mr. Atheist, Both men and woman must fulfill their gender functions in a relatoinship or they will be unhappy. I you do not believe me, go put on an apron, do some cooking and give the wife a foot massage. In time she will be disgusted with the big kitty between your legs and she will go out and find a real man on the side to make her happy. |
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