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Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 8:17pm On Jun 23, 2011
@ Tweex



Let me say the obvious -- the last person to work on your vehicle did an incomplete job; probably skipped some

caution procedures.  I don't know the approach to which the ball-joint(s) (both ought to have been replaced and at

one labour unit) service was done.  The battery ought to have been removed if any of the ESP family would be

disturbed from its rest.  This is how you ended up with the steering/wheel angle sensor malfunction.  The

malfunction was to be cleared by re-engaging the angle sensor.  The procedures below would re-engage it.

*  Crank the engine with no throttle application
*  Turn the steering wheel to the extreme left till it comes to a complete lock and the same to the extreme right
*  Centre the wheel
*  Switch of the engine. 

This should have been done after the service (if he took the battery out).  Also the ESP & BAS will default to the

malfunction mode.  So, the wheel angle sensor should not have been replaced in the first place and the second. 

This is the most direct from what you have given me that should dissolve the problem but there are other issues

which I will try to feed' you on.



With the MB tool not able to establish a relationship, you need to inspect your harness connector to the ESP.  It is

probably faulty or maybe disconnected.  I am not sure about this but I think the early C Classes of that lineup had

connector issues that were prone to fail.  I don't have a C Class and can't verify that.  If I am incorrect about

this, it is something in this segment.  Also inspect your harness. 

There is also a way to reset the ESP (and it isn't what you do on the instrumental cluster) but I can't see your

engine completely to determine your suspension and your car build (though it seems to me it's a 7.01 and earlier). 

The procedures vary.  You'll also need an MB tool to recode it. 



A mechanic should inspect the following.  These (but not limited to) will trigger an ESP fault.  This is also both

corrected and preventive maintenance.

*  The left front wheel sensor  (Take caution to this since this zone got some recent attention)
*  The right front wheel sensor
*  Left rear wheel sensor
*  Right rear wheel sensor
*  Left front brake pad contact
*  Right front brake pad contact
*  Left rear brake pad contact
*  Right rear brake pad contact
*  Pad and rotor wear for all wheels
*  Left/Right Front/Rear brake calipers

and above all

*  The rear SAM control module (just inspect, they never go bad). 



Also, get the wiring right if anything has been altered.  The steering controls must function.


If all is good, then you have a faulty ESP module. 



There are two numbers I will give to you.  I know this man and he is the first Mercedes purist that I know that is

Nigerian.  From what I understand, he was also trained and worked for the Nigerian army on their convoy vehicles.  I

learnt from him that everything must remain as the engineer put it or you should be working there.  Another thing is

that he doesn't steal and would refund what's excess from part charges.  However, he is a bit pricey than other

mechanics.  Be prepared for genuine OEM parts only because he wouldn't use otherwise.  The numbers are 08034047024

&& 07025625064.  Tell him one of his ExxonMobil clients referred you. 



That goes for every other person Benzing or drives a BMW and some japanese models. 


Whoever you choose, arm yourself with these information.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 8:24pm On Jun 23, 2011
tweex:

Hi Trac,

When you say suspensions, are you refering to the engine or car suspensions?
I will try and get the pictures. I just sent the car to the body shop. I will send you the pictures once it been returned. Cheers

Just the engine bay.  I know what I will be looking for.  Just the bay.  From there, I can tell the type of suspension and your Merc build.  At this point, I can only see your ESP but there is something else that I am looking for.  The reason I am asking is if you need to unmount the ESP module, there are precautions to take.  I don't know what you have because the area needed to looked at was not caputred by your lens or was cropped out.  You may not have to reset your ESP but the information may be needed in the near future.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by tweex: 12:04pm On Jun 24, 2011
Thanks Trac,

I will give him a call and send the pictures once the car is back.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 5:06pm On Jun 24, 2011
tweex:

Thanks Trac,

I will give him a call and send the pictures once the car is back.

Give him a call -- don't forget the referral I told you.  He doesn't have to know who. He should be blunt to you and will also educate (if need be).

You can forget about sending the pictures since you will be taking it for mechanical repairs.  But I will tell you why I wanted what I requested.  Some models have an air pump right before the ESP module (between the ESP and the left headlamp).  The air pump is for the suspension to the front-left.  To reset the ESP module for models fitted with the air pumps, the terminals for the pump has to be disconnected first, then you proceed to the ESP and unmount it.  If this procedure wasn't followed, myriads of issues will begin but the solution wouldn't be to start fixing or replacing, but reseting.  For models without the pump, proceed to remove the ESP module and remount it and reset the wheel angle sensor.

Keep us posted.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 6:22pm On Jun 24, 2011
@Tweex

The person to the numbers is alias Engineer-J.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by 4X4: 10:22pm On Aug 08, 2011
;d ;d
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by 4X4: 5:34pm On Aug 10, 2011
;d
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Nobody: 3:41am On Aug 13, 2011
my fav benz is the s65 amg,

Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by pleep(m): 4:47am On Aug 13, 2011
Wow, a girls that likes cars.  shocked

Anyway, Mercedes Benz cls Is the best!
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Nobody: 4:52am On Aug 13, 2011
pleep:

Wow, a girls that likes cars.  shocked

Anyway, Mercedes Benz cls Is the best!

lol, i play gran turismo a lot grin
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by pleep(m): 4:58am On Aug 13, 2011
^ a girl that likes video games & cars! shocked wow

I'm not a gamer, but I sense you will be the perfect match for someone. Haha
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Nobody: 5:01am On Aug 13, 2011
pleep:

^ a girl that likes video games & cars! shocked wow

I'm not a gamer, but I sense you will be the perfect match for someone. Haha

wink
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by 4X4: 2:51pm On Aug 16, 2011
;d
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by chainy: 6:00pm On Aug 17, 2011
guz am already arranging for ML 320 the 2000 model. some freinds actually advice that the car has electrical issues and poor fuel economy and these are my fears.

are these complaints really true plsssssssss?


see the pix of what I mean. cant stand to loose this machine.

chainy

Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by edlion57(m): 6:09pm On Aug 17, 2011
why is benz so expensive
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by 4X4: 7:11pm On Aug 18, 2011
;d
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by drhappy(m): 8:05pm On Aug 18, 2011
Please can somebody tell me the difference between Compressor Benz and non- compressors
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by chainy: 4:14pm On Aug 19, 2011
guz am already arranging for ML 320 the 2000 model. some freinds actually advice that the car has electrical issues and poor fuel economy and these are my fears.

are these complaints really true plsssssssss?
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by SleekReek(m): 11:16pm On Aug 19, 2011
About to take delivery of my first Benz https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-725217.0.html

Please can somebody tell me the difference between Compressor Benz and non- compressors

The Kompressor engine functions by forcing more air into the engine's cylinders, thus increasing the power output of the internal combustion engine. The term used for this process is forced induction; air is forced into the engine at a pressure greater than the air surrounding it, thus creating more horsepower and torque.

The Kompressor engine, aka the supercharger, uses only one turbine. This turbine is powered solely by belts that are connected to the engine and the air compressed during this process is not recycled from the exhaust. Supercharger are designed to increase an engine's horsepower and torque.

The consequence of the above is that a 2005 C240(which is a non-Kompressor Engine) which is a 2.6 litre V6 Engine has a lower horsepower 168-hp but consumes more fuel than a 2005 C230 Kompressor 1.8 litre Engine 4 cylinder which has a higher Horsepower 189-hp,so though the engine is smaller the kompressor system assist to boast it's horsepower while maintaining it's fuel economy

Fuel Data(C230 Benz Kompressor)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City 24 MPG
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy 32 MPG
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx 16.4 gal

Fuel Data(C240 Benz Non-Kompressor)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City 20 MPG
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy 25 MPG
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx 16.4


The importance of a higher Horsepower


Horse Power is the engines ability to do a certain amount of work within a specific period of time, and it allows the car to sustain the acceleration that torque gives it initially.(TORQUE is the power with which the engine is turning the wheels, the more the torque, the faster is the acceleration) Without horsepower, your truck would have a hard time maintaining speed when pulling a trailer. Vehicles carrying passengers would bog down on slight grades because they couldn't make it to the top without gasping for air. If a vehicle is under powered, it will typically develop a lot more problems over it's lifetime than a vehicle that has more than adequate horse power. So, better horse power not only can make a difference in how long the engine lasts, but you'll enjoy the use of the vehicle more during it's lifetime, and in some cases, will actually boost the fuel economy because the engine works less to do the same job.The more horsepower the easier it is for the engine to pull your car along, the quicker it can attain higher speeds, higher horsepower can mean better mpgs(Miles Per Gallon or Litre).

@drhappy I hope this answers your question.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by drhappy(m): 11:41pm On Aug 19, 2011
@Sleek Reek:Sir, I doff my hat.Thanks a bunch.Your explanation was totally exhilarating,informative and educative.I was scared stiff about Benz until Siena and some other 'gurus' in the house de-mystified my Benz phobia.My next car is going to be a C-230 Kompressor preferably 2.2Litres.Is somebody with my spec?
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by SleekReek(m): 8:54am On Aug 20, 2011
Then go for a 2002 C230 Kompressor which has

Horsepower 192 @ 5500
Size 2.3Litres
Torque 200 @ 2500-4800
Type Gas V6

However it's fuel economy is not as good as the 2005 C230 Kompressor

EPA Fuel Economy Est - City 19 MPG
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy 29 MPG
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx 16.0 gal
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by prinsbasy: 10:06pm On Aug 21, 2011
Please guys can anyone out there help me out? I have a C240. Very reliable ride but its been making this squeaky sound from the suspension lately, I even changed the shock absorbers yesterday but it wont stop, In fact the sound becomes obvious whenever i am driving slowly on a rough road. Can someone help me out please?
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 5:14am On Aug 22, 2011
H-Star89:

lol, i play gran turismo a lot grin

A chassis 203 AMG-tuned should be your type and not the 220. Trust me, you still have more than a handful and loads of twisty torque at your right foot. Call me sexist, but you don't fit the old white lady character.

Gramn Turismo is good but it never mirrored the S65 (that's if it was there - I recall the E & SL/SLK not the S). Owning an AMG is an experience and you can never regret it if you are an owner or enthusiast. It's docile and well tamed till it shows you it's "other" side and often without warning when that power is conjured.

Hmn, video games, racing simulator selections, Mercedes & AMG and Nigerian -- that is 4 for the price of 1. Gamine did not mark this level of territory. That's good of you, truly.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 5:36am On Aug 22, 2011
chainy:

guz am already arranging for ML 320 the 2000 model. some freinds actually advice that the car has electrical issues and poor fuel economy and these are my fears.

are these complaints really true plsssssssss?



Chainy,

Run from this (if you haven't bought it). It is nick-named "Alabama Benz." It didn't earn that title because it lived to its reputation(s). It was enthroned the Alabama Benz for its myriads of problems of which a huge chunk are electrical gremlins (and some are elevated). In my personal opinion, it is not worth it. Some electric problems but not gremlin in manner. If you are in Nigeria, I'll recommend that you don't purchase a Benz that was intended for the U.S. market. If you insist, then have the timing dialed back to accommodate the use of 87 Octane fuel. I won't need to tell you what's up.

As much as you can, avoid the V6's.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by chainy: 10:26am On Aug 22, 2011
@ TRAC,

MANY THANX. YOU MADE MY DAY. I WAS ATTRACTED BECAUSE OF THE SEVEN SEATER ARRANGEMENT AND BANKING ON THE MERCEDES TRADITION OF RUGGEDNESS.

I HAVE ONLY ONE CHOICE AND THAT IS TO RUN FROM THIS AS YOU ADVISED. BUT TELL ME, IS THERE ANY OTHER MAKE WITH SEVEN SEATER ARRANGEMENT THAT BENZ OFFERS WITHOUT THESE OBVIOUS ISSUES SIR?

ONCE AGAIN THANX AND KEEP UP.

CHAINY
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by pimpJay11(m): 12:42pm On Aug 22, 2011
I've been driving a Mazda Millenia 2000 limited Edition Until last month that i got a CLK 320 Kompressor Coupe. both cars have 6cylinders engines, with 18 and 17" rims respectively. If you ask me, I'll say the Millenia Performs better. With the Millenia i go upto 180km/h and the car stays extremely balanced on the ground. but, with the mecerdes i get something different. Over all i think the the millenia is a better machine to the CLK 320, Don't know stand to be corrected.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Trac: 3:55pm On Aug 22, 2011
chainy:

@ TRAC,

MANY THANX. YOU MADE MY DAY. I WAS ATTRACTED BECAUSE OF THE SEVEN SEATER ARRANGEMENT AND BANKING ON THE MERCEDES TRADITION OF RUGGEDNESS.

I HAVE ONLY ONE CHOICE AND THAT IS TO RUN FROM THIS AS YOU ADVISED. BUT TELL ME, IS THERE ANY OTHER MAKE WITH SEVEN SEATER ARRANGEMENT THAT BENZ OFFERS WITHOUT THESE OBVIOUS ISSUES SIR?

ONCE AGAIN THANX AND KEEP UP.

CHAINY

Hmn - honestly I never knew the M's were 7-seaters.  To be quite truthful, I didn't consider it to be of sort.  I may not be the best to give a conclusion about seat capacity.  I have never even thought that far in a number of seats for a vehicle when considering a purchase.  Per ruggedness: The only offroad vehicle that meets the criterion of ruggedness is the G Classes.  They are pricey indeed.  If you have the money go for it.  In my personal opinion - avoid all Benz offroad vehicles.  For the money, you'll get something better.  If you want the premium package vehicle as the Benz is, I'll give you an alternatie.  The Porsche Cayenne. Look into it.  It doesn't breakdown and it is durable; maintenance repairs are minimal.  The M's and ML's were built to be reliable (and a bad job at that for that matter).  The Cayenne's were designed to be durable.  Two isolated philosophies from the design concept.  I'm not sure about the seating arrangement in the Cayenne.  You'll also get every penny's worth of your money also. 

All the best in your choice of purchase.
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by FredAuto(m): 12:07pm On Aug 25, 2011
2006 Mercedes-benz M-class Ml500 (more-like-new) (cant get this anywhere in the world, i bet)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-743874.0.html
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Nobody: 7:22pm On Aug 25, 2011
FredAuto:

2006 Mercedes-benz M-class Ml500 (more-like-new) (cant get this anywhere in the world, i bet)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-743874.0.html
How did you manage to get it? undecided
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by FredAuto(m): 7:35pm On Aug 25, 2011
blink182:

How did you manage to get it? undecided

first of all im a car dealer but this car belongs to my neighbor in my apartment.
he asked me to sell it though ive posted it in other auction sites and decided to add it to nairaland if any interested buyer is available. he drives it once in a while since he has other cars to cruise with.

i hope i came out plain,
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by Nobody: 7:39pm On Aug 25, 2011
ok
Re: Mercedes Benz Thread by FredAuto(m): 7:40pm On Aug 25, 2011
thats why im trying to sell it as cheap as possible, i no steal am grin

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