bawomolo:

the same nigeria where crimes go unreported? the same Nigeria were secondary/grammar schools have rivalries.   group fights between secondary schools are common in Nigeria.

turning this thread into an home-based nigerians vs nigerians in diaspora is pretty pathetic.

Are you minding that she-he?

And not to even mention cultism that's going on in Naija.

LouisThoro:

They will fight you with all that is in their blood to let you "think" that Nigeria's case is worse. Meanwhile, we reasonable people know better, but something turns in their stomach when you begin to point out the fact that Nigeria is safer in that respect.

LMFAO!!!! . The words 'Reasonable' and 'LouisThoro' are mutually exclusive.

Dude there is no 'Fact' as you call it to point out. Nigeria is not safer than the U.k and anyone that believes otherwise needs. . . . . . .

chic2pimp:

LMFAO!!!! . The words 'Reasonable' and 'LouisThoro' are mutually exclusive.

Dude there is no 'Fact' as you call it to point out. Nigeria is not safer than the U.k and anyone that believes otherwise needs. . . . . . .

needs a stint at yaba left

chamotex:

You can move in with me baybee and join my movement.

Mon darlink, stop whispering sweet nothing to me yet, let me settle these 14 years old children, Ileke-idi and Idowuogbo into bed for the night, i nor want make we corrupt their innocent mind Just gimme 5 mins yeah, you would soon have me all to yourself shotigbo, here catch this kiss for starters

bawomolo:

this kind of thinking is simplistic.   children have little responsibility because they are CHILDREN.  i don't think they asked to be brought into this world.

discipline doesn't have to be always physical by the way.  it says a lot about a parent if your only way of getting your point across is through physical discipline.    

Is this what i was talking about, all this bleudy liberals sef, mschew We are saying "Your child can tell you to shut up and Zap. off without fear of repercussion, i have got a Greek friend whose 6-footer 14 year old punches him and beats him up without the Dad retaliating because he can't as well as because he does now want to grass on his own flesh, and you are here talking tripe These children will categorically tell you they know their rights and will call Social Services and the Cops even before you hit them, yet they will hit you without compulsion.


I know you are a staunch advocate of its my body bigade, but deep down, is it right for your child's school backed by legislation to be able to arrange for your 10 year old to have an abortion without telling the parents because it is the child's right  What a sick society that is

Busy_body:


Exactly, you have hit the nail on the head.

It is not even kids killing only kids, they attack adults too. How dare a 10 year old walk up to an adult and slap the person, how dare a 10 year old look at an adult and say "what are you looking at", because there is no deterrent.

Summertime, they go round setting off fire hydrants wasting water, you call the Fire Department to come, one told me, "sorry we can't come in the daytime, the kids will stone us" WTF!!!!!!!!

I nearly flipped one day. had this neighbour with a fire hydrant directly in front of her house, and she has a disabled child. Some group of 20 youngsters, some on bikes, converged in front of her house, i accosted them and told them to move on, they refused, saying they would not. I told them again, they said "what are you gonna do" by this time, their parents had started peeping outta the window, and coming out of the front door, possibly to call the Police if i laid hand on one of them. The older ones were egging the younger ones on to switch it on, i asked why they couldn't do it themselves if they weren't scared.

They asked what i was going to do to them, i was wearing my puffa jacket and told them " look here, i live next door with my Mum and my 2 sisters, and have to share a room with them which i hate, i am 19 years, the same shitty law that makes you people prance around like prized idiots is the same one that applies to me. As an under 21, if i decide to beat the s,h,i,t out of you, i will not go to jail, but instead to a "young offenders home" and i will be able to have my own room there, with playstation, pool, etc and whilst i am inside enjoying myself, you will be in hospital treating the wounds and if you get better quickly, i can still send my crew to sort you out. . .

They started saying i was lying, then one of them said "she is telling the truth" i have a mate in a young offenders home and he lives like a king there, they all stood there openmouthed in awe, and started drifting off and started discussing this amongst themselves, and soon left. After covering about 400 yards, one of the cheeky devils piped up and asked "if you are 19, why are you wearing a wig" Chei I just swerved his question

Ahahahahhahahahah
That boy must be very intelligent.
He has a great comprehension skills, LOL

bawomolo:

needs a stint at yaba left

. . . . . . Well, you took the words right outta my mouth

chic2pimp:

. . . . . . Well, you took the words right outta my mouth

How? With his tongue?
I didnt you were gay?

Mon darlink, stop whispering sweet nothing to me yet, let me settle these 14 years old children, Ileke-idi and Idowuogbo into bed for the night, i nor want make we corrupt their innocent mind Kiss Just gimme 5 mins yeah, you would soon have me all to yourself shotigbo, here catch this kiss for starters

na who release busy_body today? Been a while I've seen your face sha.

Hope you're grooming my lil handsome devil for me, I don't want him to look like pelenge chic2pimp nigba ti n ba wa lati wa san owo igbe-oko

Similar laws exist in other developed countries.

Ileke-IdI:

How? With his tongue?
I didnt you were gay?

You of all people should know better nah . . . . . . . Or do you think the 6 hours or thereabouts you and yours truly were at it last night was all for show?

chic2pimp:

You of all people should know better nah . . . . . . . Or do you think the 6 hours or thereabouts you and yours truly were at it last night was all for show?

Yes, me and mines truly were at it last night. But how did YOU find out? stalker!


NO THREAD DERAILING.

Ileke-IdI:

Hope you're grooming my lil handsome devil for me, I don't want him to look like pelenge chic2pimp nigba ti n ba wa lati wa san owo igbe-oko

E mi lo n pe ni 'Pelenge' abi . O ba furo e . Anyways sha, the proof they say is in the pudding sweetie  

bawomolo:

the same nigeria where crimes go unreported? the same Nigeria were secondary/grammar schools have rivalries. group fights between secondary schools are common in Nigeria.

turning this thread into an home-based nigerians vs nigerians in diaspora is pretty pathetic.

Ileke-IdI:

Are you minding that she-he?

And not to even mention cultism that's going on in Naija.

Bamo, learn to compare like for like, this ain't about university levels or college levels, but kids age 7-18 in UK and their poor quality of life that is cheaper than pure water, dissaffected youth with hardly any sense of direction. Kids for whom the way out is getting pregnant to get council flats or dabbling into drugs to make a fast buck or getting featured on x-factor  Kids engaging in postcode (zipcode) turf war - you get killed for tresspassing N.E.E.T with N.F.A'S


And if you look at the topic again, there's no way this can be trashed out without reference to NID'S AND NIN'S

Ileke-IdI:

Yes, me and mines truly were at it last night. But how did YOU find out? stalker!


NO THREAD DERAILING.

More like Loverbwoi . . . . . . _{*Whistles rather delightfully*} I know you like it .



Speak for yourself oooo sugbo . You call derailing, I call it enhancing .

Nigeria to an extent is much safer because there are auntys,uncles,grandparents etc to look after the kids when the parents are working.
I spent almost 3 yrs with my grandma while my parents were studying in Uk.
That didnt make me a terrible boy or grow up to be a menace.
In  Nigeria,most children see people to look up to.They get disciplined by the extended family and/or the entire society
I grew up in a low-income area of lagos and still you just have to be right.behaviourally(MUST) and educationally(if you have the potentials to)
because you see your mates doing great things and immediately you didnt pass your WAEC,GCE or JAMB on time,
friends will consciously or otherwise start to neglect you.You'll be forced to start burning those night candles to be at par or relevant.

Kids with Bad character are seriously scolded by the entire society.In this case i mean such kids will be avoided by either their mates and/or their parents.
Most of what we see as bad character in Nigeria is nothing compared to kniving,violence or outright murder going on in these "civilised" world.

"Absentee" parents are even more on the recieving side.They loose on both sides.Kids get bad and the money they make from slaving themselves wont be enough to repair the damage.
Nigeria is far better to raise kids than UK.Thats my 2 cents

Busy_body:

Bamo, learn to compare like for like, this ain't about university levels or college levels, but kids age 7-18 in UK and their poor quality of life that is cheaper than pure water, dissaffected youth with hardly any sense of direction. Kids for whom the way out is getting pregnant to get council flats or dabbling into drugs to make a fast buck or getting featured on x-factor   Kids engaging in postcode (zipcode) turf war - you get killed for tresspassing N.E.E.T with N.F.A'S


And if you look at the topic again, there's no way this can be trashed out without reference to NID'S AND NIN'S

But college kids fall within that age bracket, don't they?

Besides, no one is saying that the situation in the U.K is picture perfect but believe you me it is 100 times better than what we have in Nigeria. Also I think some of the things you listed above i.e Zip code turf war are grossly overexaggerated.

Busy_body:

Bamo, learn to compare like for like, this ain't about university levels or college levels, but kids age 7-18 in UK and their poor quality of life that is cheaper than pure water, dissaffected youth with hardly any sense of direction. Kids for whom the way out is getting pregnant to get council flats or dabbling into drugs to make a fast buck or getting featured on x-factor  Kids engaging in postcode (zipcode) turf war - you get killed for tresspassing N.E.E.T with N.F.A'S


And if you look at the topic again, there's no way this can be trashed out without reference to NID'S AND NIN'S

Ileke-IdI:

So where should we raise our children? Nigeria? *death*, not with that education system.  AHBLNRXYD lmao!!!
If I can have it, I would not raise my kids in America either.
So this is a good question; WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR NIGERIANS TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN?
If Fayemi fixes Ekiti school fees and develops the state, I wouldnt hesitate to send my kids home.

Interesting, which leads to my question. . . . then where is the best place to raise children?
Where is the best education system? Where is the best place MAXIMUM disciplinary action can be taken against children? Where are they provided the best resources? etc.
Is there a definite answer to those questions?

chic2pimp:

E mi lo n pe ni 'Pelenge' abi . O ba furo e . Anyways sha, the proof they say is in the pudding sweetie  

What is the proof, I have not seen it o.  

chic2pimp:

But college kids fall within that age bracket, don't they?

Besides, no one is saying that the condition is the U.K is perfect but believe you me it is 100 times better than what we have in Nigeria. Also I think some of the things you listed above i.e Zip code turf war are grossly overexaggerated.

Not UK's term for "college", she's talking about college/university.

olafolarin:

Nigeria to an extent is much safer because there are auntys,uncles,grandparents etc to look after the kids when the parents are working.
I spent almost 3 yrs with my grandma while my parents were studying in Uk.
That didnt make me a terrible boy or grow up to be a menace.

I think you are confusing issues here. Who tells you that many of these kids have no aunts, uncles, grandparents to look after them or something?
And why is it that other European and western countries with similar laws do not suffer the same level of violence?

In  Nigeria,most children see people to look up to.They get disciplined by the extended family and/or the entire society
I grew up in a low-income area of lagos and still you just have to be right.behaviourally(MUST) and educationally(if you have the potentials to)
because you see your mates doing great things and immediately you didnt pass your WAEC,GCE or JAMB on time,
friends will consciously or otherwise start to neglect you.You'll be forced to start burning those night candles to be at par or relevant.

I strongly disagree with much of what you have above. What Nigerian children have people to look up to? I grew up in that same Nigeria, and can attest to the fact that Nigerian schools are not much safer. I lost about 5 of my course mates to meaningless rivalries in the course of my five years in the secondary school system and by my last year, it was apparent that many would likely not make it past college as they were already branded cult members at that point.

Even though I am not against corporal punishment, I question the idea that it is the only way when children in western nations, who have never been disciplined in such a way, still grow up to become good citizens.

By the way, I think your comment above is more a generalization than actual factual for much of Nigeria.It is a bit disingenuous to proclaim Nigeria is a safer place to raise kids. It is not . . . . and we all know this but for some reason are willing to let our emotions cloud our judgment. Yes, Nigeria is a place where parents can get away with spanking their kids without themselves needing to take responsibility for their own part in the actual education of the kids, but it is not necessarily a safer place to raise a child in the right way.

Busy_body:


Is this what i was talking about, all this bleudy liberals sef, mschew We are saying "Your child can tell you to shut up and Zap. off without fear of repercussion, i have got a Greek friend whose 6-footer 14 year old punches him and beats him up without the Dad retaliating because he can't as well as because he does now want to grass on his own flesh, and you are here talking tripe These children will categorically tell you they know their rights and will call Social Services and the Cops even before you hit them, yet they will hit you without compulsion.


I know you are a staunch advocate of its my body bigade, but deep down, is it right for your child's school backed by legislation to be able to arrange for your 10 year old to have an abortion without telling the parents because it is the child's right  What a sick society that is

Its not liberalism's fault your greek friend has a deranged kid.  I don't think social services says a parent can't defend themselves from their wild feral son.  demonic kids like that are the exception and not the norm.  

since when did schools arrange abortions?  a 10 year old shouldn't even be having sex.  i heard of 16/17 year olds being able to get plan B but 10 year olds having abortions is unheard of.

Ileke-IdI:

How? With his tongue?
I didnt you were gay?

na who release busy_body today? Been a while I've seen your face sha.

Hope you're grooming my lil handsome devil for me, I don't want him to look like pelenge chic2pimp nigba ti n ba wa lati wa san owo igbe-oko

My e-lovers Honerico and OmoIbo are around, so dunno the lil handsome thingymajug you are talking about, i am still a tear rubber fagin You can still bring the money though

olafolarin:

Ahahahahhahahahah
That boy must be very intelligent.
He has a great comprehension skills, LOL

Ouch, those kids and their razor laced mouth


One old woman was telling me "and they say kids are misbehaving, why wouldn't they misbehave when it is when they are still in the belly their mama dey wear small top wey no cover the belly dey expose their pregnancy to the world" lol

chic2pimp:

You of all people should know better nah . . . . . . . Or do you think the 6 hours or thereabouts you and yours truly were at it last night was all for show?

See utter disresket Awon omo aye isinyi ma go oh, at least this one should have let me go to sleep and continue doing Mummy and daddy with Chamosexy, before climbing tree and be throwing stones at my daighter ileke-idi's window to sneak her out of the house for a midnight drive down sunset boulevard to go study at the Library followed by night vigil in Church Anyway i shouldn't complain, at least i raised my studious and Godfearing and daughter ileke-idi right unlike that Mama Rashidat down the road

Bamo, learn to compare like for like, this ain't about university levels or college levels, but kids age 7-18 in UK and their poor quality of life that is cheaper than pure water, dissaffected youth with hardly any sense of direction. Kids for whom the way out is getting pregnant to get council flats or dabbling into drugs to make a fast buck or getting featured on x-factor Undecided  Kids engaging in postcode (zipcode) turf war - you get killed for tresspassing Undecided N.E.E.T with N.F.A'S Undecided

nigerian secondary schools have rivalries too.   trust me, i lived around secondary schools (ijesha boys, sanya grammar school, ayo ni o). it wasn't uncommon for those kids to get into fights.  

teen violence happens anywhere,  what the participants typically have in common are parental neglect and impoverished backgrounds.

olafolarin:

Kids with Bad character are seriously scolded by the entire society.In this case i mean such kids will be avoided by either their mates and/or their parents.
Most of what we see as bad character in Nigeria is nothing compared to kniving,violence or outright murder going on in these "civilised" world.

Take off your rose tinted glasses mate,  . . . . Are you trying to tell me there is no knifiing,violence and outright murder in nigeria?

Ileke-IdI:


What is the proof, I have not seen it o.  

Not UK's term for "college", she's talking about college/university.

Keep telling yourself that you hia.Like last night wasn't enough proof  


My Bad.My points still stand though.

Busy_body:


My e-lovers Honerico and OmoIbo are around, so dunno the lil handsome thingymajug you are talking about, i am still a tear rubber fagin You can still bring the money though



Ouch, those kids and their razor laced mouth


One old woman was telling me "and they say kids are misbehaving, why wouldn't they misbehave when it is when they are still in the belly their mama dey wear small top wey no cover the belly dey expose their pregnancy to the world" lol





See utter disresket Awon omo aye isinyi ma go oh, at least this one should have let me go to sleep and continue doing Mummy and daddy with Chamosexy, before climbing tree and be throwing stones at my daighter ileke-idi's window to sneak her out of the house for a midnight drive down sunset boulevard to go study at the Library followed by night vigil in Church Anyway i shouldn't complain, at least i raised my studious and Godfearing and daughter ileke-idi right unlike that Mama Rashidat down the road

Chei e ma biinu ma ooo . I have come to rquest Ile Idi's hand in marriage oooo .

Kids with Bad character are seriously scolded by the entire society.In this case i mean such kids will be avoided by either their mates and/or their parents.
Most of what we see as bad character in Nigeria is nothing compared to kniving,violence or outright murder going on in these "civilised" world.

i wonder where those agberos came from. must be niger republic

bawomolo:

Its not liberalism's fault your greek friend has a deranged kid.  I don't think social services says a parent can't defend themselves from their wild feral son.  demonic kids like that are the exception and not the norm.  

since when did schools arrange abortions?  a 10 year old shouldn't even be having sex.  i heard of 16/17 year olds being able to get plan B but 10 year olds having abortions is unheard of.  

This deranged boy as you called him, is typical and the norm of what you would expect across the board in UK. And pray tell how can you defend yourself, even mere restraining that child will leave fingermarks on him which will get your a.r.s.e in jail.

Well newsflash, Uk does, so welcome to our World, where sex education including teaching children it is right to have gay tendencies starts from age 5, yes sex education commences from age five, now go figure the level of rot in such society.

Busy_body:


This deranged boy as you called him, is typical and the norm of what you would expect across the board in UK. And pray tell how can you defend yourself, even mere restraining that child will leave fingermarks on him which will get your a.r.s.e in jail.

Well newsflash, Uk does, so welcome to our World, where sex education including teaching children it is right to have gay tendencies starts from age 5, yes sex education commences from age five, now go figure the level of rot in such society.

well what's wrong if a child has gay tendencies? you gonna whoop the gay out of him?  I don't see what sex education has to do with the rot in society.

and what got you UK folks cranky, is it the tea and crumpets.   

we bussing our guns over here and you sissies are complaining about bread knife crime 

on a serious note - your friends son needs anger management and therapy before its too late

bawomolo:

nigerian secondary schools have rivalries too.   trust me, i lived around secondary schools (ijesha boys, sanya grammar school, ayo ni o). it wasn't uncommon for those kids to get into fights.  

teen violence happens anywhere,  what the participants typically have in common are parental neglect and impoverished backgrounds.

Nobody is disputing that!!!Those days,You need to see an ordinary inter school football match between Igbobi College and Angus memorial(they both share the same compound).It will end up in a free for all.

But we are say is that it is not this rampant.Exceot maybe in PH,i hardly hear or see any secondary school kids using guns on each other.
I was born,bred and schooled all my live in Lagos.I went to one of the most notorious secondary schools in Lagos.
WE just need to be more realistic.

In lagos state,Principals Cup Football competition brings the worst out of every school but still the number of those injured is never as high as what we read daily in Uk schools.Its not only limited to UK but also in germany.

Most "agberos" are created by the failure of the Govt.Most are school drop-outs who ran away from away from home only to be a nuisance somewhere else.

Ask me for a list and i'll give you many.

The choice is yours to raise your kids anywhere you want but why do you think some parents send their kids home(Nigeria) for secondary or University education?

A few statistics for you to chew on

* 95% of teenage mothers are unmarried (Source; Office for National Statistics)

* More than 6 in 10 teenagers leave school without 5 GCSE's(Source; Department for Education)

* Almost 1 in 3 students failed to secure a place at University this year, out of the 688,000 that applied, more than 200,000 did not get admission (Source; The University and College Admissions service Statistics)

* Prisoners gets paid to take lessons in anger management classes (Source; Prison Services)

* Life expectancy in pockets of UK (age 65) are worse than Countries they send foreign aids to e.g bangladesh, lebanon, east timor, libya, etc

* Prisons are being kitted out with satellite tv to pacify bored prisoners, never mind the fact that it already costs £39,000 to keep one person in jail per annum. And guess what happens when foreign prisoners finish their sentences, they beg them with £5k to deport them back to their Country.






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Busy_body:

A few statistics for you to chew on

* 95% of teenage mothers are unmarried (Source; Office for National Statistics)

* More than 6 in 10 teenagers leave school without 5 GCSE's(Source; Department for Education)

* Almost 1 in 3 students failed to secure a place at University this year, out of the 688,000 that applied, more than 200,000 did not get admission (Source; The University and College Admissions service Statistics)

* Prisoners gets paid to take lessons in anger management classes (Source; Prison Services)

* Life expectancy in pockets of UK (age 65) are worse than Countries they send foreign aids to e.g bangladesh, lebanon, east timor, libya, etc

* Prisons are being kitted out with satellite tv to pacify bored prisoners, never mind the fact that it already costs £39,000 to keep one person in jail per annum. And guess what happens when foreign prisoners finish their sentences, they beg them with £5k to deport them back to their Country.





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I think they are really stupid on that point.

Free for all fights? Yes!!! 10/16 year old secondary school boys moving around with guns?? Never heard of that!

Osama10:

I think they are really silly on that point.

Is it only that? Illegal immigrants in calais wanting to cross over from France to the UK gets money to go back to their Country, Illegal immigrants who wants to go home voluntarily gets £4,000, and according to people administering this money, 15 people have applied 3 times, meaning that they collect this money, gets deported, find their way back to UK, pick up cash again, travel out, fly in again, collect this money for the third time, chei, na wa oh

baslone:

Free for all fights? Yes!!! 10/16 year old secondary school boys moving around with guns?? Never heard of that!

they don't carry the weapon, 7/8 years old do this for them cos they don't get searched, and the guns are stored in their girlfriend's house.

Busy_body:


Is it only that? Illegal immigrants in calais wanting to cross over from France to the UK gets money to go back to their Country, Illegal immigrants who wants to go home voluntarily gets £4,000, and according to people administering this money, 15 people have applied 3 times, meaning that they collect this money, gets deported, find their way back to UK, pick up cash again, travel out, fly in again, collect this money for the third time, chei, na wa oh




they don't carry the weapon, 7/8 years old do this for them cos they don't get searched, and the guns are stored in their girlfriend's house.

Yeah have seen a video on that.

I am tired of ignora.muses who keeps coming here to tell us what we already know, Nigeria is a dead zone, we kill ourselves, we are animals, we are in the stone age compared to your America and your UK, fine, we all know that one. If you keep repeating it, you are not making any sense, you are sounding like a broken record, and you may go mad in the process of trying to make that point. So, you are not making any point by repeating it, anywhere, not even here, so you might as well wake up every morning, carry a placard and write all that fact on it and walk through Broadway or Liverpool Street or anywhere like that.

But, what makes news, and worth talking about is when we begin to see a figment of the animalistic "Nigeria" and "Nigerians" in those places which you call heaven, that is what is worth talking, that is worth makes news, and that is what sensible people are talking about here. So, save your saliva and keep to the thread, keep to the topic, so, dont tell us what we already know. An english man in New York, LOL.

Who cares if i am a man or woman, just like most of you come here to yearn or say what you are not, everyone also has the right to do that. Even those who barely can eat where they are come here to call themselves kings and queens and yearn dust against the other person.

LOL. Nigerian Americans.

bawomolo:

the same nigeria where crimes go unreported? the same Nigeria were secondary/grammar schools have rivalries.   group fights between secondary schools are common in Nigeria.

turning this thread into an home-based nigerians vs nigerians in diaspora is pretty pathetic.

Realy? from the main culprit.

LOL.