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Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by gamechange(m): 9:06pm On Sep 26, 2011 |
When an elected official has been shown to be engaged in an irrefragable or caught in an immoral act, it is only honorable that they resign or leave office. In situations where they do not willingly resign, our constitution should allow the constituents of the area represented by that elected official to be able to force the issue by registering their protest at the local INEC office, when a certain agreed threshold is reached, that official is notified by INEC and will seize to represent that locality, a bye election can then be conducted. Again, this will keep power in the hands of the people and ensure elected officials are accountable. Those allowed to register their protest should be those who actually voted the official into power. An instance is if 50,000 people actually voted this official into power, then if 25001 protests is received from that pool of people, power reverts to the people and it triggers a bye election. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 9:41pm On Sep 26, 2011 |
@loco4love Nigeria can get better if we decide to make Nigeria better. Nigeria is not finished. Nigeria does not need to break up. Nigeria is made up of many ethnic groups even within the same geo-political zone. with the Ife modakeke crisis, the agitation for an Ijebu state, the Ijaw-itsekiri crisis, the jos crisis et cetera, those are cases of in-fighting within ethnic groups. How does breaking up Nigeria address these problems? Unity in diversity is a very great strength. The only draw back is that the strength can only be realised if it comes alongside maturity. We need serious psychological re-orientation to remove the deep-seated ethnic intolerance that is a common feature of so many cultures. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 9:50pm On Sep 26, 2011 |
creating a mechanism to remove leaders the populace is dissatisfied with is a very great idea but it must be carried out with great caution so as not to be abused by unscrupulous elements. I believe at the local levels we can practice direct democracy such that people are organized into small units through which their protests can be registered. I look forward to a day when one person can directly affect the Nation positively through the use of a technology enabled direct democractic process. This is a challenge that Nigerian IT professionals must rise up to. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 7:30am On Sep 27, 2011 |
Going further on the case of ethnic intolerance. It is a shame that the youth of Nigeria have inherited this horrible nation splitting trait from the previous generation. Africans seem to be the remaining continent where ethnic intolerance is the order of the day, little wonder why it is the poorest and most unstable continent. In a world where everyone is trying to come together many Nigerians are still divided. It is common knowledge that "United we stand, Divided we fall" yet for selfish reasons, many of us are still divided and view people not of our particular ethnic group as second class citizens of our community. It is pertinent to note that this division does not stop at the ethnic level, it keeps going deeper and deeper until different strata or classes are defined even within small ethnic communities. Furthermore, the only people that benefit from division are unscrupulous elements bent on subverting the common good of the community for their selfish and narrow interests. Little wonder that it is politicians that usually drive the wedges that divide us deeper. I believe we should replace state of origin in all official forms and documents with state of residence / place of birth, A person is a primary citizen of a place if he/she has lived and paid personal income taxes there continuously for the last 5 years Only primary citizens can contest for political positions THE criteria can get increasingly tougher as the scope of responsibility increases. This will fix the problem of ethnicity because people of different ethnicity will be residing in a particular community and are bona fide citezens Also it should be a crime to address someone else as a second class citizen of a place in any public communication if they are bona fide citizens After the above law is passed, there will be a gradual re-orientation of the citizenry with the consequent reduction of ethnic intolerance. This point of view was also elucidated in the last vice-presidential debate by Tunde Bakare. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:06am On Sep 28, 2011 |
A system whereby, first class graduates of law, psychology and economics as well as other science students interested in nation building can be put together during their NYSC to tackle societal problems with various teams debating the various ideas put forward. In the end, the best and most affordable ideas can be implemented by the federal government with due recognition going to the teams that created them. We can have a national list of challenges for which enterprising Nigerians can build innovative solutions with an expectation of reasonable returns on the investment of their time and other resources. For Nigeria to be great, we need to solve our problems ourselves! we need to raise capital ourselves! |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:08am On Sep 28, 2011 |
India banned or at least restricted the influx of foreign cars a few years ago and today TATA an indian company are the owners of the Land Rover brand! That is a great validation of the theory of economies based on local production of goods and services. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:20am On Sep 28, 2011 |
On the issue of Capital and Foreign Investment, Capital is[b] anything [/b] that can be employed for the production of a good or service! We don't need foreign capital for the development of local industries! Infact, once we use foreign capital, the industry, by definition cannot be a local industry. The foreign source of the capital will demand returns which can only be paid by repatriating the goods and services sold or the financial gains made by the sale of the goods or services produced. To build a bridge, we do not need a foreign company! All we need are competent engineers that will employ available labour and resources to build the bridge. For example, if a community wants to build a bridge, it can get a competent engineer, provide labour through the deployment of the youths in the community (remunerating them by providing them locally produced food, shelter and clothing) and pay the engineer by allocating him or her land from the community for private use for a particular number of years, or promise him or her food supply from the community for a number of years. If money is needed for the procurement of materials not locally available, a regional bank can provide the funds (to be paid back by sustainably produced community resources). The above method is not as easy as just borrowing money from a bank and paying the engineer but it saves the community a lot of heart ache, enriches the community, prevents the future generation from becoming slaves in the community by providing them locally owned means of livelihood sustained by mutually beneficial exchange of goods and services. Nothing good comes easy! |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:24am On Sep 28, 2011 |
Quote from E-Force in the "Sense of Purpose" thread
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Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by Eforce1: 6:02pm On Sep 28, 2011 |
Nice thread guys, we all have this thing in us. Its so nice to have a forum like this, and many thanks again for re posting my thread logic1. I believe our historical quest for freedom was for a purpose. To make Nigeria really great, we first of all have to love it, there is no two way to it. In this love is unity which was once defiled. I believe in the love behind our quest for freedom. The Delivery of a Nation (Our own). I also believe that there is a generational shift (Very significant). This very generation, most of which were told the tales of history are well positioned in love. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 10:21pm On Sep 28, 2011 |
@E_Force Yeah you are right about us having to love Nigeria and for that to happen we need to have a definite sense of purpose. We need to come up with a defining purpose for Nigerians, something like "The American Dream" that Nigerians can look up to and aspire their lives towards. When we come up with a theme strong enough to galvanize Nigerians irrespective of tribe or ethnic group, we will have accomplished almost 50% success in our quest or psychological re-orientation. However, for us to have any shot at creating a unifying theme we first have to break the widespread and suffocating attitude of ethnic intolerance. One way (even though it's very expensive) is to start a media campaign that systematically breaks down the barriers that have been set up by the previous generation by asking subtle questions and providing answers that unify everyone. One such example is to ask subtle questions about the Nigerian civil war and provide answers that suggest to our Igbo brothers and sisters that breaking away to form Biafra (which will in all probability be land-locked) will not provide a satisfactory solution to their problems but staying as one Nation and learning to live among their fellow Nigerians as bona-fide citizens of Nigeria will go a long way in solving their problems. We can push ideas that suggest that a Nigerian with Igbo or Yoruba parents is a bona-fide citizen of Kano state and can become a governor of that state if He was born there or has lived there long enough to be able to interact without any language or cultural barriers. We can push ideas that de-emphasize ethnic affiliations in favour of the Nigerian Identity. A focused campaign will definitely cost billions but we can do[b] little little campaigns in our various circles of influence [/b] that will be more effective than one single huge campaign. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 10:28pm On Sep 28, 2011 |
@E_force I checked out your website and I'm impressed by what you guys are doing - Procurement Outsourcing. You'll be in a good position to push the "Buy Nigerian" campaign, or at least influence your clients to do so. I have a business solution for the procurement industry and I believe we can work together. I have saved your details and will contact you as soon as it is appropriate. I believe if Nigerian youths decide to exchange goods and services between themselves rather than buying foreign goods and services we will build a strong economy in spite of our huge challenges. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by igbo2011(m): 12:29am On Sep 29, 2011 |
Nigeria should be growing at 25% a year. 1. We need to exploit diamonds that we have (not blood diamonds) 2. Get the best farmers, train farmers and give them the best equipment to make food. Then they will consume domestically and export the rest around the world. 3. Subsidize factories so that they can get more equipment (faster production) and workers (engineers , laborers, managers, etc) 4. Corruption is a NO NO. There should be a corruption hotline and anyone who is corrupt will be reported, have ALL HIS ASSETS STRIPPED AND SOLD to a corruption auction. 5. High tariffs or ban unnecessary products that can be produced at home. 6. Bring Nigerians in the Diaspora back to build Nigeria. Even ones who were born and raised abroad. 7. SUPPORT NIGERIAN PRODUCTS AND NIGERIAN TOURISM 8. This will reduce crime by 95% more people will visit Nigeria for tours. During the cold months from October to March-April we will have many people visit our tourist attractions. Honestly this can all be done by January 2012 so our economy can start growing. Over 40 million people will be employed by this and there will be people from other countries coming to Nigeria to work to build Nigeria. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 12:36am On Sep 29, 2011 |
Quote from seyi brown's post at the topic here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-770551.0.html
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Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:15am On Sep 29, 2011 |
I sympathize therefore with those who would minimize rather than maximize economic entanglement between nations. Ideas, knowledge, art, hospitality, travel - these are the things which should of their nature be international. But[b] let goods be homespun whenever it is reasonably and conveniently possible[/b], and above all, let finance be primarily national. - John Maynard Keynes (emphasis mine) |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 11:26pm On Sep 29, 2011 |
The greater the diversity, the greater the potential for further innovation and the greater the greater the resilience of the system in times of stress and crisis. Genetic and cultural diversity are life's storehouses of intellectual capital and the building blocks from which it melds itself into new and more capable forms. - David C. Korten |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:14am On Sep 30, 2011 |
We must organize demonstrations and picket government houses until our demands are met. The problem is that many people who want to take part in these demonstrations ae working class people who are struggling to fend for their families and thus are in no position to organize demonstrations the onus lies on our university undergraduates for they are old enough to understand political issues and are free enough to organize protests. Working class people can also work with students on the weekends and other free days to galvanize them into action. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 11:54am On Sep 30, 2011 |
My Imagination, Chants by 50,000 Nigerian Students protesting in the premises of the National Assembly We no go gree o, We no go gree Ni-ge-rian Se-na-tors re-duce your mo-ney Re-duce your mo-ney, Re-duce your mo-ney Ni-ge-rian Se-na-tors re-duce your mo-ney |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 1:11pm On Oct 02, 2011 |
To ensure balance of trade, every importer of goods and services must be aligned with a corresponding exporter of goods and services produced locally such that the net import must be equal to the net export. imports and exports should be classified into raw materials, processed goods and services. there should be balance of trade in all 3 classes. Companies cannot cancel out their imports by exports in another class! Too much exports of raw materials (makes us slaves) too much imports of raw materials (makes us dependent) Foreign exchange must be controlled tightly by the government. Bureau De Change orgaizations must be strictly monitored. The organizations rather than the government should be responsible for creating the partnership. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by htajz: 3:35pm On Oct 02, 2011 |
divide it |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 10:03pm On Oct 02, 2011 |
divide what? |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 12:08am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Employment: No organization should be allowed to employ expatriates indiscriminately. An organization must first prove beyond all reasonable doubt that no Nigerian capable of carrying out the task is available before an expatriate can be employed Whenever an expatriate is employed, the organization must embark on a program of training Nigerians such that within 2 years a Nigerian can take over from the expatriate, This means that no expatriate can be employed for more than 2 years in Nigeria at a stretch doing the same Job. Everyone employed in Nigeria must be paid in Naira! We cannot allow private organizations to increase the indebtedness of Nigeria for exclusively private gains! |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 12:09am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Acting with critical consciousness creates immunity against propaganda and false promises |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 8:32am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Capitalism's false promise: Freedom and prosperity without the burden of responsibility. Nigeria must embrace a true market economy so that we are neither slaves and laborers (by exporting mostly raw materials) or overdependent on any other economy (by importing more than 10% of goods and services consumed) |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 9:37am On Oct 05, 2011 |
(CP-Africa) - South Africa has been invited by China to join the group of four of the fastest growing emerging economies in the world, Brazil, Russia, India and China, the BRICs, Reuters reports. The country which is Africa’s top economy was invited officially today by China’s foreign minister according to a statement released by South Africa’s minister of international relations and cooperation, Maite Nkoana-Mashabane. South Africa applied to join BRIC at the G20 meeting of the world’s leading economies in Seoul in November. BRICS is just a nomenclature invented by brilliant investors who are trying to exploit the people of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. The BRIC nations got to where they are because they turned down IMF structured foreign investment and chose instead to focus on building their own economies. When IMF and the investment community say an economy is growing what they mean is that the claims they have to that economy's labor, land and natural resources are growing! It means they can now bet more money on the nation! Money value is an illusion. We should say no to foreign investment because the investor is KING! the borrower is SERVANT to the lender! We can organize ourselves! we are the ones who have true capital - Land, Labor and Natural Resources. We should organize our capital to develop ourselves! No great nation was ever developed with foreign investment. That's a statement that IMF seeks to obscure in the minds of everyone. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by maclatunji: 10:26am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Very nice thread. I will contribute when I feel inspired- not feeling it at the moment. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by maclatunji: 10:30am On Oct 05, 2011 |
I think this idea would be better-leveraged if you create a Facebook group/page for it. The group is better because you can exercise more control. The page is good if you want to market the concept. However, the quality of contributions would be seriously compromised. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by Okijajuju1(m): 10:47am On Oct 05, 2011 |
Expulsion of the Fulanis, Hausas and Yorubas from Nigeria to Chad, Cameroun and Niger Republic, |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by Nobody: 12:59pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
This is positive thread. We must be clear first of all who the enemies of development are and arrest them. Obasanjo and Babangida are continuing to screw up the country cause confusion in a bid to hang to stolen trillions of Naira. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.0.html |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by kodewrita(m): 1:41pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Just a small change. Lets stop penalising entrepreneurs for having the temerity to want to start a company. Checking a business name is not so hard that you have to bribe some clerk in abuja to do so. Place all this info online and we can satisfy our curiosity at a cheaper cost to the state. even business registration should be much easier. why all the blackmarketty feel to it? the process shouldnt be so so complex that you would need to run after lawyers to register a company. It should be possible to register a company under 5 days or even 2 days. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 6:26pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
@maclatunji thanks. I believe there are similar groups on facebook like the "Fix Nigeria Group" and the "How can we make Nigeria better" Group. It is imperative that we organize ourselves on all media possible to bring the desired change to Nigeria. |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 6:59pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
@GenBuhari we have to come up with an intelligent way to prosecute the "enemies of development". There will always be enemies of development and there is no way we can remove them all. We will most likely have to move on inspite of all the enemies of development. We will have to organize ourselves to create change inspite of the activities of our enemies. I believe that no enemy is greater than the combined resolve of Nigerian youths. We are stonger than them |
Re: Suggestions To Make Nigeria Better by logic1: 11:19pm On Oct 05, 2011 |
Life draws us towards mindfulness, Money towards compulsion. A mindful person will more readily see the capacity for mindfulness in others. To solve the massive problems in Nigeria, we have to be mindful and thoughtful. We have to draw out counsel and ground breaking ideas through deep reflection and meditation. The problems that assail us are not small, but no problem regardless of the size can trump the infinite capacity of the human mind especially when in cooperation with other like minds. |
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