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Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Ucheosefoh(m): 10:07pm On Oct 05, 2011
I have a very good friend who is 20 years old seeking for admission in one of the universities in the southeast he got his galfriend pregnant and they are planing for aborting the one month pregnant but I told him that I dont support it and will not want his education to stop because of the pregnant and the issue of him getting married at this young age but he have already made up his mind to do the abortion and he is looking for money to complete the amount he have for the abortion. I have the amount that he is looking for but I dont want to give him the money cus I dont want to stain my hands with the blood of an innocent child. Did I do the right thing by not helping him with the amount that he is looking for
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 10:16pm On Oct 05, 2011
Not only did you do the right thing, you may have invariably saved a life! or 2 lives! Depending on if he gets the money from another source or not!

I'll advise you tell someone that would dissuade the boy or the girl, someone more matured, like parents or something!. . .
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Freiburger(m): 10:22pm On Oct 05, 2011
Ucheosefoh:

I have a very good friend who is 20 years old seeking for admission in one of the universities in the southeast he got his galfriend pregnant and they are planing for aborting the one month pregnant but I told him that I dont support it and will not want his education to stop because of the pregnant and the issue of him getting married at this young age but he have already made up his mind to do the abortion and he is looking for money to complete the amount he have for the abortion. I have the amount that he is looking for but I dont want to give him the money cus I dont want to stain my hands with the blood of an innocent child[b]. Did I do the right thing by not helping him with the amount that he is looking for [/b]

OOO yes you 're right, but don't also fail in giving them a helping hand when the baby will finally arrive.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by kemmeye: 10:24pm On Oct 05, 2011
of course you did the right thing. he is crazy wen he was doing the shuku shuku didnt he know it might lead to pregnancy dont give him the money.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by freecocoa(f): 10:27pm On Oct 05, 2011
You did the right thing,you kids shouldn't be having sex if you ain't ready for the responsibilities that comes with it.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by slimyem: 10:44pm On Oct 05, 2011
Op,you are a boy after my heart.iLm so proud of you.
You did the right thing.
Try as much as you can to dissuade them both from abortion.
Having a baby will not stop their lives.
It might just slow it sown a little and they'll catch up if they work at it
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Akinagirl(f): 10:49pm On Oct 05, 2011
Very proud of you for doing the right thing. Tell him point blank I will not have any part of terminating a potential life, however I can give you a helping hand when you have the baby.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 10:54pm On Oct 05, 2011
kemmeye:

of course you did the right thing. [b]he is crazy wen he was doing the shuku shuku [/b]didnt he know it might lead to pregnancy dont give him the money.

lool

@ poster.

don't give him o, if u give that means u re part of the team that killed the unborn baby, let em sort themselves out, u weren't there when shuku shuku was happening
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Ucheosefoh(m): 11:20pm On Oct 05, 2011
Thanks guys for the advise I will meet them tomorrow and try talk it over with them but many things is at stake
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by MrsChima1(f): 11:25pm On Oct 05, 2011
Uche

Do not support something that you do not believe in. Stay true to your beliefs and feelings. You did right by saying no to something YOU do not agree with. If she is a true friend she will respect your decision not to involve in her plight of which you do not support and I am sure she would expect the same from you if the shoe were on the other foot.

For me, I support abortions.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 11:55pm On Oct 05, 2011
@poster
let me bring a different perspective here:
although i am sure he has learned from his mistake, what you should think about is SOLVING THE PROBLEM, not punishing your friend (again) by making him suffer even more and force him to have this unwanted kid.
not everyone who have impregnated someone did it because they had unprotected se.x, condoms do break and some women also lie about being on the pill etc.

YES, it's wrong to have an abortion, since it's illegal in 9ja, JUST AS MUCH AS it's wrong to bring a human being into this world when you dont have the financial/physical and emotional means to care FULLY for that child.

so instead of trying to PUNISH your friend (everyone makes mistakes) you should help him sort out his problem. nobody asked you to support abortion, give him the money because you support your FRIEND in this time of need.

even in the bible, you can clearly read that it was ok to do something supposedly "wrong" (in the eyes of the lord), to make things RIGHT!
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by HighChief4(m): 12:55am On Oct 06, 2011
Even some of the gals that had abortion not long ago are here commendin the OP, Hypocrites

@OP------You did the right thing, let him carry his cross

***Dedicating my 2500 post to all the babies lost in abortion by those heartless gals***
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Ucheosefoh(m): 1:16am On Oct 06, 2011
@mrbrownjay I am not trying to punish my friend we all make mistakes but I cant forgive myself if I support him cus abortion is bad in any angle except if the life of a mother is at danger even the bible says dat anything that we make u sin remove it and the bible say dat no one have the right to take another  person's life the issue at stake is a matter of either saving lives or protecting his future what if the gal die from complications or lost her womb in the process what do u think will happen, need ur reply
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 1:41am On Oct 06, 2011
stop thinking of IFs and MAYBEs, this is your dear friends life you are talking about.
your friend IS NOT ready to have a child and HAS NOT got an education, but yet he will have to go and find work (obviously only some bs job) and start caring for this child and mother (even though he doesnt want to). that will surely make him a bitter father and a bitter partner who will blame that child for his failure.

he will ultimately hold you  also responsible for not helping to correct his mistake when he needed you the most.

as i always write:
In Ecclesiastes 6:3, God compares the rich man who has led an empty foolish life with a still-born infant and says, “it would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” The world is better off without Judases and Hitlers and Charles Mansons – who quite often begin life unwanted, grow up abused and hated, and then take out their anger on society. How many psychopaths and destructive misfits will be born if/when people are forced to bear unwanted children?

also The Bible indicates that personhood begins when a baby emerges from the mother’s womb. In the Bible and in modern life, birthdays are observed on the date of the baby’s emergence from the womb. The precise moment of the beginning of personhood is when the baby takes its first breath because that’s when God infuses the baby with a soul. Genesis 2:7 says, “And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” In other words, when an infant breathes its first breath, the soul enters its body and it achieves the status of person. . . . . . . not before!

taken from the essay of a great man!
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 1:44am On Oct 06, 2011
there are adoption centers dude.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Ucheosefoh(m): 6:29am On Oct 06, 2011
MRbrownJAY:

stop thinking of IFs and MAYBEs, this is your dear friends life you are talking about.
your friend IS NOT ready to have a child and HAS NOT got an education, but yet he will have to go and find work (obviously only some bs job) and start caring for this child and mother (even though he doesnt want to). that will surely make him a bitter father and a bitter partner who will blame that child for his failure.

he will ultimately hold you  also responsible for not helping to correct his mistake when he needed you the most.

as i always write:
In Ecclesiastes 6:3, God compares the rich man who has led an empty foolish life with a still-born infant and says, “it would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” The world is better off without Judases and Hitlers and Charles Mansons – who quite often begin life unwanted, grow up abused and hated, and then take out their anger on society. How many psychopaths and destructive misfits will be born if/when people are forced to bear unwanted children?

also The Bible indicates that personhood begins when a baby emerges from the mother’s womb. In the Bible and in modern life, birthdays are observed on the date of the baby’s emergence from the womb. The precise moment of the beginning of personhood is when the baby takes its first breath because that’s when God infuses the baby with a soul. Genesis 2:7 says, “And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” In other words, when an infant breathes its first breath, the soul enters its body and it achieves the status of person. . . . . . . not before!

taken from the essay of a great man!
its look at it 4rm this angle  the abortion process didnt go well the gal lose or damage her womb or worst still lose her life what will be the fate of both us just know dat if she lose or damage her womb my friend will not marry her in the future leaving her with the problem of not being able to bear a child then she will turn back to blame us 4 helping her damage or lose her womb or if she dies in the process of abortion what do u think we will do? Do we have money for her burial? How will we tell the world and our parents what we did? Dont u see dat u are forcing me to help him do another mistake, just think it dis way if the gal is ur sister will u support dis plan
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by God2man(m): 7:33am On Oct 06, 2011
That baby may be the person that the world is waiting for, the baby may be the person that will help to alleviate the suffering being exprience now in the world, that baby may be the prophet of God, the baby may be the only child of the parent, besides,first born is first born,the baby is a leader, first born open the way,first born carry something. You see,if the devil want you to do something,he will give you 1,000 reasons to do it, and you will be deceived to agree with his suggestions. Let them have the baby,it is better. Killing the baby will compound their problem. Even this education we are talking about,if God's blessing is not there,it may be a waste of time. Look for a pleasant way to take care of the baby,it takes determination to succeed in this kind of situation. God bless you. God2man.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 8:00am On Oct 06, 2011
I hate it when men supposedly quote the bible correctly, and then twist it out of context to suit their immediate selfish needs! WTF!
In Ecclesiastes 6:3, God compares the rich man who has led an empty foolish life with a still-born infant and says, “it would have been better for that man if he had not been born.” The world is better off without Judases and Hitlers and Charles Mansons – who quite often begin life unwanted, grow up abused and hated, and then take out their anger on society. How many psychopaths and destructive misfits will be born if/when people are forced to bear unwanted children?
And how, Mr, would you EXACTLY know, who is who inside the womb? And what they'll become huh? Do you have a futureristoscope?( grin) Seriously, talk to me!

also The Bible indicates that personhood begins when a baby emerges from the mother’s womb. In the Bible and in modern life, birthdays are observed on the date of the baby’s emergence from the womb. The precise moment of the beginning of personhood is when the baby takes its first breath because that’s when God infuses the baby with a soul. Genesis 2:7 says, “And the Lord God formed man out of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” In other words, when an infant breathes its first breath, the soul enters its body and it achieves the status of person. . . . . . . not before!
Jesus Christ! What the hell is this? Was the baby formed from the ground? When does life begin? At conception, or at birth? Now, if an infant should breathe it's first breath before you term it a person, why the hell does it's heart, start beating from the womb? And why o why should a baby in the womb kick it's mother, if it's not alive!

Seriously! I'm left in confounded wonderment as to how selfish and self centered we have become! Manically bewildered, to say the least! Sheesh!. . .

Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by pendo89(f): 8:31am On Oct 06, 2011
Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.Before you were born I set you apart.I appointed you as a prophet to the Nations.
That was God to jeremiah.
Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed body.All days ordained for me were written before they came to be
Isaiah 49:1
Before I was born the LORD called me; from my birth he has made mention of my name.

We have choices and consequences. You cannot stop a person with a strong will.But you can warn them and leave them to do as they wish.
That is the best thing anybody can do.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nayah(f): 8:33am On Oct 06, 2011
Habari my sweet Pendo wink
Poster good morning, you might be right giving your point of view but try not to blame her or making feel her guilty just try to be honest and neutral then she'll be able to take her decision
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by pendo89(f): 8:37am On Oct 06, 2011
mzuri nayah.

Is Vipi? (hw r things?) ope uko poa.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 9:06am On Oct 06, 2011
Nayah:

Habari my sweet Pendo wink
Poster good morning, you might be right giving your point of view but try not to blame her or making feel her guilty just try to be honest and neutral then she'll be able to take her decision
How about, Speak the truth at all times! Even if it sounds blunt or Judgmental! Laws DONT make excuses for the offenders!
Why should we pat nonsense on the back, in a bid to avoid sounding Judgmental? Where is JUSTICE?
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nayah(f): 9:28am On Oct 06, 2011
I'm ok my sweet sister and you?? kiss
sexkillz:

How about, Speak the truth at all times! Even if it sounds blunt or Judgmental! Laws DONT make excuses for the offenders!
Why should we pat nonsense on the back, in a bid to avoid sounding Judgmental? Where is JUSTICE?


Sexkillz, read again what I say, he can tell what he thinks but what he thinks it's not necessary "the truth" this is his opinion, reason why I say the person has to make her decision without having being judged or blamed, What you think "truth" maybe is not, I prefer saying my opinion then leave her making her own decision without make her feel she would be wrong going for abortion, cause everyone has personal motivations
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by ebonyvibe(f): 9:31am On Oct 06, 2011
what is your own with your friend's girlfriends abortion it is his cross let him carry it.

You did the right thing
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 9:37am On Oct 06, 2011
Sexkillz, read again what I say, he can tell what he thinks but what he thinks it's not necessary "the truth" this is his opinion, reason why I say the person has to make her decision without having being judged or blamed, What you think "truth" maybe is not, I prefer saying my opinion then leave her making her own decision without make her feel she would be wrong going for abortion, cause everyone has personal motivations
Nayah! if you agree that Abortion is Wrong, can anything, or any excuse whatsoever, make abortion RIGHT?

Let me understand your parabolic trajectory! smiley

Two girls are 5 weeks old pregnant! Two of them, wants to abort! Now Nayah comes along and advices them not to, because abortion is wrong! The first girl goes ahead to abort, the second girl does not abort!

Which of the two girls did the right thing? smiley

Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by born2boink(m): 9:48am On Oct 06, 2011
shocked shocked
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nayah(f): 9:52am On Oct 06, 2011
sexkillz:

Nayah! if you agree that Abortion is Wrong, can anything, or any excuse whatsoever, make abortion RIGHT?

Let me understand your parabolic trajectory! smiley

Two girls are 5 weeks old pregnant! Two of them, wants to abort! Now Nayah comes along and advices them not to, because abortion is wrong! The first girl goes ahead to abort, the second girl does not abort!

Which of the two girls did the right thing? smiley



Sexkillz life is not that easy and everything is not white or black my dear! I could tell you not abort but if you think it could warn you to go ahead in school or whatever, as a friend I can't judge you, you know what I mean? I wouldn't be able to do that this is not my body buy her, that's why I said the decision is not our role, we just have to support our friend by supporting them when they make their decision even though you don't approve
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 10:34am On Oct 06, 2011
Nayah:

Sexkillz life is not that easy and everything is not white or black my dear!
I asked you a point blank question, you cleverly evaded, and answered cleverly: Life is not in Black and White! Good! This seems to be the perfect answer when we are trying to make excuses for what is wrong! Abortion is MURDER of an unborn helpless baby! What is the difference between murdering a helpless adult that is blindfolded, gagged, tied up both hands and both feet and Murdering a helpless one month old infant in the womb?
Nayah:
I could tell you not abort but if you think it could warn you to go ahead in school or whatever,
Yeah! Going ahead in school! Another circumlocutory aversive answer! Did you not remember you were in school, when you were humping? Did you not know about the consequences? Should i bear the consequences of your actions, so that it seems i'm not Judging you?
Nayah:
as a friend I can't judge you, you know what I mean?
You cant judge me as a friend! But i prefer friends that tell me point blank to my face, that I WAS WRONG! If you cant correct me as your friend, then who will?
Nayah:
I wouldn't be able to do that this is not my body buy her, that's why I said the decision is not our role, we just have to support our friend by supporting them when they make their decision even though you don't approve

Really? Another evasive answer! What if it was the Murder of an innocent fellow student? Would you still make this comment about supporting them even if we dont approve? But now, because a baby is involved we are biased? Should you take a life of a baby, because no one is there to render it Justice? Is it the baby's fault that it was brought to conception? The main purpose of sex is to make babies! This is what you get when we misuse of freedom of choice and our bodies! Do you know that by supporting your friend for murder, that you can be termed an accomplice? Should you fail to heed the warnings of your own conscience, just to make your friend and his own conscience happy? Hmm! Tell me More!

Life is Life! There is no need for unnecessary compartmentalization of Human life! A day old human is as much human as a 20 year old human(20 x 365 days) smiley
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Tosinville(m): 10:36am On Oct 06, 2011
Yeah! some girls lie that they are on pills, why? is that how easy to take care of a child when you aint ready for one.

I'm just encountering that some ladies want kid only without giving a damn about their boyfriend anymore, guys worry most for abortion just because they aint ready to be a daddy & still have a long way to go.
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nayah(f): 11:07am On Oct 06, 2011
Sexkillz telling you the truth and judging you is completely different, I'm quite honest with my surroundings but yes don't count on me to say " you're like this because you've done that" I prefer " I wouldn't do that because this and that but the decision is yours and I'll respect that" that's ly conception of friendship and some people used to do the same thing like you do: to mixt honestly and judgement very close but different my brother smiley
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 11:18am On Oct 06, 2011
^^^Ok! Now may i ask you to read the very first post of the OP and tell me Where he Judged his Friend! smiley

For chrissake, is he right to Support abortion or not? Where did he judge? You folks only brought up Judging in a bid to save your self the stress of telling him NO! And invariably save face and look good! I cant look good to you if i cant be honest to you! My being honest to you does not mean Judging you! But what i wont leave out in my honesty, is telling you the truth and nothing but the truth! If you wanna tell truth, do so without fear of man! Dont mix it because you want to save face! wink
Re: Am I Right For Not Supporting My Friends Plan 4 Abortion by Nobody: 11:27am On Oct 06, 2011
. . . . And you are not my friend if you support me in doing what you know is bad! So you can remain friends with me! That's Arrant nonsense!. . . .

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