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This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 12:21pm On Oct 31, 2011
Researching the religions of the world for a view of their “eternal heavens” is a hopeless venture. If these religions are judged by the futures they offer, they are a sad spectacle. Christianity is the one and only faith that promises a simple and beautiful life in a glorious setting worthy of human existence. All the rest of the world’s religions show signs of being created by a fallen mind or minds with no concept of a meaningful eternal life.

The saddest of all these religions is the Islamic faith. While many politicians and religious leaders claim that the Islam god, Allah, is the same god as the Judeo-Christian God, the facts confirm that this is a false claim. Nothing proves this more absolutely than the different theologies of heaven.

First, let’s look at the Islamic theology of heaven. Their heaven is a sex brothel, where women will spend eternity as sex slaves. Any woman that would ever embrace Islam must be ignorant of this fact. What woman would want to be one of the many wives, along with seventy-two virgins, that serve one man with sex for eternity?

The prophet Mohammed described his view with the following words, “The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a .” (Surah Al-Rahman 55, 72, as interpreted by Ibn Kathir, who died in 1373 CE).

Here are quotes directly from the Koran:

“As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.” (Koran 78:31)

“, They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.” (Koran 37:40-48)

“, Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (beautiful virgins).” (Koran 44:51-55)

“, They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them, ” (Koran 52:17-20)

“In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:56-57)

“Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:57-58)

“, We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand, ” (Koran 56:7-40)

"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair, Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jinn will have touched before, ” (Koran 55:70-77)

Not only are there virgins in multiplied numbers, but, also, dashing and handsome young boys ready to be devoured in homosexual activities. The Islam pornographic brothel includes the darkest possible sin of men raping innocent young boys. These quotes from the Koran document these horrible acts:

“Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.” (Koran 52:24)

“Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.” (Koran 56:17)

“And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.” (Koran 76:19)

While I try to spare you the descriptive and vulgar language that extends far beyond what I am writing, I must mention the sex market promised by Prophet Mohammed. In the Hadiths, Mohammed extends the talk of virgins and boys to promise a free sex market, where there is no end of choices for additional sex beyond the wives, 72 virgins, and young boys. “Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, ‘There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them.’” (Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34)

The only possible creator of this debauchery is the Prince of Darkness, the fallen malevolent, the blasphemer of the Father – Lucifer himself. This fallen prince and all his discontented angels and men are on a subway to Hell. This subway is gaining speed and is soon to arrive at the depot of darkness.

When we stop to compare the Christian Heaven that fills the Bible from Genesis to Revelation with the Islamic heaven ( Paradise ), we are left with nothing to compare. The Islamic heaven is not a heaven after all, but a brothel where sick men indulge in lustful activities uninhibited by moral restraints. I cannot find one promise to the Islamic women except the task of watching the men live out the wildest description of sex orgies ever recorded. There is doubtless no pornographic book more vulgar and debauched than the Islamic theology of their heaven. A sex market that men can visit and choose a woman at will with which to have open sex has to be at the very bottom of the depravity of fallen mankind.

The Heaven promised in the Holy Bible is rich, pure, God-centered, and reserved for the pure saints that have turned from the filthy world of lust. Our glorified bodies will exemplify the highest morality possible. This glorious life is so far removed from the base appetite of sex that the thought of such will not even come to mind. The joy of our Father and our Savior, Jesus Christ, will be the highest expression of eternal life. The New Heaven and the New Earth will be centered round a New Jerusalem so spectacular that our imagination can only see the blinding light of it all.

The city of twelve levels will be surrounded by jasper walls and pearly gates. Each of the twelve foundations will be enhanced by priceless jewels from pure sapphires to the royal purple amethysts. Streets will be paved with gold and the Light of the city will be the Lord Jesus Christ – the Light of the world. Angels will welcome the saints as they exit and/or enter the city. The River of Life will flow out of God’s throne and the Tree of Life will line its banks.

Our Bible is filled with the way that leads to this eternal reward. Jesus Christ paid the debt of sin for all that choose to surrender to His eternal will. The Heaven of our Holy Bible is a pure place; purchased by His pure blood and offered to every soul that will turn from the lust of life to the “Way, the Truth, and the Life” -- Jesus Christ.

Joseph R. Chambers
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 12:38pm On Oct 31, 2011
I had to remove some previous post, it was too filthy.

So much for a religion of GOD.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Blackteeth(m): 3:46pm On Oct 31, 2011
hmmm. If those verses were in the bible maybe more guys would have been born again compared with the current numbers.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Blackteeth(m): 3:47pm On Oct 31, 2011
hmmm. If those verses were in the bible maybe more guys would have been born again compared with the current numbers.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by deols(f): 3:53pm On Oct 31, 2011
the heat was too much for you on the other thread that you had to come here
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 3:54pm On Oct 31, 2011
This has been open since morning dear sister grin
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Kx: 3:59pm On Oct 31, 2011
"In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched," (55:56).
"We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- For the Companions of the Right Hand," (56:35-38)
"Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfillment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines, And voluptuous women of equal age," (78:31-33).


Its laffable to realize that the reward of a good muslim faithful is voluptuous women of equal age.
Why do I need to lead a good muslim life just for mere virgins?
Odd world indeed!
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 4:02pm On Oct 31, 2011
Kx:

   "In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched," (55:56).
    "We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), - Beloved (by nature), equal in age,- For the Companions of the Right Hand," (56:35-38)
    "Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfillment of (the heart's) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines, And voluptuous women of equal age," (78:31-33).


Its laffable to realize that the reward of a good muslim faithful is voluptuous women of equal age.
Why do I need to lead a good muslim life just for mere virgins?
Odd world indeed!

A tinge of Sanctimonious Jealousy  - I hope not, cos this Islamic Heaven is da place to be, wink  sure beats being in the Holy Choir (singing praises) for all Eternity  grin
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by deols(f): 4:06pm On Oct 31, 2011
frosbel:

This has been open since morning dear sister grin

Why then did you av to post this link there. Anyways, nice tactics. I only wish u'd read to understand once in a while rather than the forever intent of criticizing. and how come am a sis. e jo o.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 31, 2011
I agree with u on this one. For the first time u're not criticizing the catholic church. don't even go there cos I'll close down the thread.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 6:07pm On Oct 31, 2011
lucenzo:

I agree with u on this one. For the first time u're not criticizing the catholic church.  don't even go there cos I'll close down the thread.

Why so,  worried that the hallowed foundations of the Vatican will be frosted stiff by frosbel's attritious  tongue  grin The Catholic Institutions have their own fair share of Unholy doctrines - but let us leave that for another thread - perhaps another forum. I hear Seun is a devotee - now you don't want to mess with da boss  tongue
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Sweetnecta: 7:50pm On Oct 31, 2011
@Frosbel: You are in the cold, if you don't have an earthly grade of one of the accoutrement of women of paradise.

Is swollen breasts not what sells products on earth?

The dark bashful virgin lie eyes like pearls sell Estee Lauder's product.


You need the victoria secret angels; see how much david bowe is paying for less?

See how much naomi campbell is commanding?

You remember claudia sheeffer, the german girl of yester years?

Look at hollywood and see who gets paid most; the healthy women. Merilyn Monroe is salivated after by the best Christians.

You do not know what makes a woman, frosbel. Poor you.


This is different from the earthly donkey length and horse flow or heavenly boring clapping and singing. That is another level of suffering and smiling.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by jayriginal: 8:39pm On Oct 31, 2011
Funny that Frosbel ignores all the p.o.r.n in the bible. The term "onanism" comes from where ?

As for the same-sex thingy, arent you mistaken ? I think you are misinterpreting that, but again, since you just copied and pasted, maybe not. Why dont you construct some original analysis yourself for once.

deols:

the heat was too much for you on the other thread that you had to come here
Why didnt you post the link ?

lagerwhenindoubt:

A tinge of Sanctimonious Jealousy  - I hope not, cos this Islamic Heaven is da place to bewink  sure beats being in the Holy Choir (singing praises) for all Eternity  grin
grin sex sells. Sweetnecta is right.
Imagine singing praises 24/7. Downright boring !!!
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by deols(f): 1:03pm On Nov 01, 2011
Frosbel is a LIAR. I will open a thread to disprove ur lies soon.

U all should look out for it.

frosbel:

Researching the religions of the world for a view of their “eternal heavens” is a hopeless venture. If these religions are judged by the futures they offer, they are a sad spectacle. Christianity is the one and only faith that promises a simple and beautiful life in a glorious setting worthy of human existence. All the rest of the world’s religions show signs of being created by a fallen mind or minds with no concept of a meaningful eternal life.

The saddest of all these religions is the Islamic faith. While many politicians and religious leaders claim that the Islam god, Allah, is the same god as the Judeo-Christian God, the facts confirm that this is a false claim. Nothing proves this more absolutely than the different theologies of heaven.

First, let’s look at the Islamic theology of heaven. Their heaven is a sex brothel, where women will spend eternity as sex slaves. Any woman that would ever embrace Islam must be ignorant of this fact. What woman would want to be one of the many wives, along with seventy-two virgins, that serve one man with sex for eternity?

The prophet Mohammed described his view with the following words, “The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a .” (Surah Al-Rahman 55, 72, as interpreted by Ibn Kathir, who died in 1373 CE).

Here are quotes directly from the Koran:

“As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.” (Koran 78:31)

“, They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.” (Koran 37:40-48)

“, Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (beautiful virgins).” (Koran 44:51-55)

“, They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them, ” (Koran 52:17-20)

“In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:56-57)

“Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny?" (Koran 55:57-58)

“, We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand, ” (Koran 56:7-40)

"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair, Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jinn will have touched before, ” (Koran 55:70-77)

Not only are there virgins in multiplied numbers, but, also, dashing and handsome young boys ready to be devoured in Same-sex activities. The Islam pornographic brothel includes the darkest possible sin of men Desecrating innocent young boys. These quotes from the Koran document these horrible acts:

“Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.” (Koran 52:24)

“Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.” (Koran 56:17)

“And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.” (Koran 76:19)

While I try to spare you the descriptive and vulgar language that extends far beyond what I am writing, I must mention the sex market promised by Prophet Mohammed. In the Hadiths, Mohammed extends the talk of virgins and boys to promise a free sex market, where there is no end of choices for additional sex beyond the wives, 72 virgins, and young boys. “Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, ‘There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them.’” (Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34)

The only possible creator of this debauchery is the Prince of Darkness, the fallen malevolent, the blasphemer of the Father – Lucifer himself. This fallen prince and all his discontented angels and men are on a subway to Hell. This subway is gaining speed and is soon to arrive at the depot of darkness.

When we stop to compare the Christian Heaven that fills the Bible from Genesis to Revelation with the Islamic heaven ( Paradise ), we are left with nothing to compare. The Islamic heaven is not a heaven after all, but a brothel where sick men indulge in lustful activities uninhibited by moral restraints. I cannot find one promise to the Islamic women except the task of watching the men live out the wildest description of sex SinParties ever recorded. There is doubtless no pornographic book more vulgar and debauched than the Islamic theology of their heaven. A sex market that men can visit and choose a woman at will with which to have open sex has to be at the very bottom of the depravity of fallen mankind.

The Heaven promised in the Holy Bible is rich, pure, God-centered, and reserved for the pure saints that have turned from the filthy world of lust. Our glorified bodies will exemplify the highest morality possible. This glorious life is so far removed from the base appetite of sex that the thought of such will not even come to mind. The joy of our Father and our Savior, Jesus Christ, will be the highest expression of eternal life. The New Heaven and the New Earth will be centered round a New Jerusalem so spectacular that our imagination can only see the blinding light of it all.

The city of twelve levels will be surrounded by jasper walls and pearly gates. Each of the twelve foundations will be enhanced by priceless jewels from pure sapphires to the royal purple amethysts. Streets will be paved with gold and the Light of the city will be the Lord Jesus Christ – the Light of the world. Angels will welcome the saints as they exit and/or enter the city. The River of Life will flow out of God’s throne and the Tree of Life will line its banks.

Our Bible is filled with the way that leads to this eternal reward. Jesus Christ paid the debt of sin for all that choose to surrender to His eternal will. The Heaven of our Holy Bible is a pure place; purchased by His pure blood and offered to every soul that will turn from the lust of life to the “Way, the Truth, and the Life” -- Jesus Christ.

Joseph R. Chambers
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 01, 2011
deols:

Frosbel is a LIAR. I will open a thread to disprove your lies soon.

U all should look out for it.


My dear I am not sure why you called me a Liar.

All the verses used to define the ISLAM heaven are quoted from your Quran and most trusted Sources.

Be careful before you open a can of worms.

I will simply go back to your sources and quote for quote, paste everything here , references and all.

Thank You.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by deols(f): 1:34pm On Nov 01, 2011
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 1:42pm On Nov 01, 2011
Okay sis, we will talk about this later , after I get some work done grin
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 2:49pm On Nov 01, 2011
Thought Picnic: The warped doctrine of 72 virgins

An attack on people
As the world gathered to watch the greatest spectacle on earth in unity of mind and purpose some to whom any sense of enjoyment or community gathering is anathema wreaked havoc with two bomb blasts in Uganda killing scores.

It is suspected that Al-Shabab, an Islamic fundamentalist group linked to Al-Qaeda is behind this carnage because of the peace-keeping efforts in Somalia by Ugandan contingent of the African Union forces.

It remains a thing of outrage that any human-being would scheme to kill scores of innocent people to make a political or religious point and one wonders about whether the perpetrators have any conscience, a sense of retribution, an awareness of a so-called afterlife or even an element of faith.

A harem of 72 virgins
So warped is their theology that it is amazing that it gains any traction at all in the thinking of an sane being. Suicide bombers have been offered the promise of paradise, paradise painted in the basest elements of intimate lust – a harem of 72 virgins.

One does wonder if the sexually repressed male who has lived an unnecessarily ascetic life with no ambition or goal in life whose existence has been coloured with pain, suffering and a lack of prospect could in anyway be prepared in his naivety for the highly libidinous task of taking away the virginity of 72 damsels.

A virgin obsession
An untested claim, an unverified existence and a pie in the sky that makes one question the whole concept of faith and an afterlife but seems compelling enough for those impressionable men under the control of evil and nasty religious patrons to be persuaded of the joys of Reproduction to the exclusion of any other purpose to give up their lives for the cause.

In a culture that is so virgin-obsessed that women regardless of status have to be presented as chaste, covered, concealed and chaperoned as virgins even if they have long been dispossessed of their virginity there is need for more anthropological insight.

The sexually obsessed men are the ones who always appear to lack the self-control in managing their urges but they are never the ones caught committing adultery, the burden of guilt lies with the woman who generally is not able to fight off the advances, who is the victim twice for having been abused and then murdered for having “besmirched” family honour.

Only for the men
The paradise seems only to be made for men on earth and beyond, they have no responsibility to be well behaved or honourable but are ready accomplices in seeking heinous retribution against their womenfolk, no provision seems to have been made for women in general and especially those who become suicide bombers, and it is unlikely they would be recreated virgins but there is probably a story of bliss prepared for them too.

A bliss is that very obtainable on earth if the leaders allow for the conditions to exist for a fulfilled life on earth before that so-called paradise is populated with novices, idiots and easily lead fools to their own destruction.

Once those 72 virgins are exhausted, one could only imagine whether the tale has any legs, if the virgins would the replenished or paradise would end for that is the only reward beyond which the management of a 72-person harem becomes an eternal hell.

The 72 houri
There are references to 72 houri (could translate to virgins), in the Hadith and this constitutes the minimal reward for people of heaven along with 80,000 servants – which in general terms would a logistical organisational nightmare for people who have been followers only and never had an inkling of leadership.

Surely, servants would want to be gainfully employed in the service of their great master the suicide-bomber who just arrived from earth – no, it just does not compute even from an irrational perspective.

The houri however are described in terms that appeal more to the men and expect the women to conform to some code, which is fair enough for those societies but does the pool of 80,000 servants also get populated by persons who once lived on earth and would this servant-hood have benevolent masters or harsh task masters whose masochism on earth is rewarded with opportunities of sociopathic sadism they once experienced from others before heaven?

Silencing the apostles of hate
As for the apostles of hate and death whose power of persuasion belongs to the primitive and pre-human instinct, none of what they do on earth now can justify any sense of bliss in the afterlife, their existence now is one that calls for them to be hunted down as prey and eradicated as vermin.

The whole purpose of religion should always be in service of humanity, where it harms our humanity it is no more religion, it has become terrorism and worse – justice will only be served when all those whose lack of passion for life are taken out of the circulation of those of us who believe there is more to life and probably something more exciting to the afterlife than the satisfaction of our intimate expression.

It is time for well-meaning and true Islamic scholars and leaders to address this matter with urgency provide the context, the reasoned teaching and the framework that honours the cause of Islam as a religion of peace with possibility of happiness and joy on earth and the hereafter and blow into smithereens the warped doctrine of 72 virgins.

http://www.akinblog.nl/2010/07/thought-picnic-warped-doctrine-of-72.html
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 2:55pm On Nov 01, 2011
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 4:40pm On Nov 01, 2011
OMG shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed cry cry cry cry cry
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 02, 2011
There are many more sources and much more graphic material within the Islamic sources regarding Jannah. However I think we have seen enough for now. What a degrading view for the women. Being a sex object for a man along side 70 other women. Sex slaves indeed! Interestingly the Bible says nothing of the sort. Instead we read that there will be no marriage. Thus no sex. We also read that Heaven is not fully conceivable in its greatness.

    "However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him." 1 Corinthians 2:9


Thus the peak of the Islamic Jannah (women, sex, virgins, swelling bosoms) is described in great detail. However the Bible doesn't even try to attempt to communicate what God has prepared for us fully. If it were merely SinParties and sex, the Bible would have documented that. However the few things it does tell us about Heaven relate to its Holiness and how incomprehensible it is. We read that:

    "He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." Revelation 21:4

    "Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat upon them, nor any scorching heat." Revelation 7:16


My contention is that if Allah was the same God of the New Testament, we should see the same heaven since its details were established in the 1st century. We should at least see some intimate references involving virgins and sex in Biblical heaven if Allah was responsible for the Injil. Since there is not one single reference to sex or carnal desire in Biblical heaven, the reader is forced to conclude that Allah is not the same God. He was not responsible and he had nothing to do with the Injil (New Testament).

How can one imagine a Holy and righteous omniscient and Omnipotent God wanting to watch his creation Be Intimate in his Holy kingdom of absolute glory. People should have more respect for God Almighty. Why would you want to disrespect him by following a religion that contains such things, and even making them important factors to motivate believers to fight and die in the cause of Allah? Heaven is about fellowship and worship of God, our creator. It is about love, real love, not carnal intimate desire. Christ has risen and he is Lord. Amen.

By Keith Thompson
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Ladilgs: 4:07pm On Nov 02, 2011
@OP

You seem to be a very critical person. Well it has been my experience that such people become that way out of a sense of inferiority. Which was it? You found it difficult to find a girl that would say yes? Or the other boys would not let you play? You should fix the underlying problem.
Re: This is not Heaven that was talked about in the Bible, it is a whorehouse. by Nobody: 4:11pm On Nov 02, 2011
Ladilgs:

@OP

You seem to be a very critical person. Well it has been my experience that such people become that way out of a sense of inferiority. Which was it? You found it difficult to find a girl that would say yes? Or the other boys would not let you play? You should fix the underlying problem.

Nope, I am simply telling the untold stories that have been hidden pre the computer age.

Now that we have our dear friend the www , we now have the truth at our finger tips and as an apologist I just love to tell these stories of truth grin

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