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Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 3:29am On Nov 15, 2011
Nigeria: Targeted for Destruction

For Those Who Have Ears to Hear

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/14/nigeria-targeted-for-destruction/


Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Yeske2(m): 9:05am On Nov 15, 2011
Na wah o, i pray this doesn't happen. The author even quoted beaf's thread. Abeg we need to be more careful with our comments on NL
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 4:46pm On Nov 15, 2011
Yeske!:

Na wah o, i pray this doesn't happen. The author even quoted beaf's thread. Abeg we need to be more careful with our comments on NL

My prayers are with you. I missed the quoting of Chairman Beaf in the article.


War Is A Racket

Mon Nov 14 2011 11:20

A speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

Smedley Butler

WAR is a racket. It always has been

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.


A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1365/475/War_Is_A_Racket.html?currentSplittedPage=0
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 4:47pm On Nov 15, 2011
@Poster, are you sure you don't need to go get your hair washed? e be like say dem don dey call you tay!
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 5:02pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

@Poster, are you sure you don't need to go get your hair washed? e be like say dem don dey call you tay!


Save the snide personal online attacks and try to thoroughly analyze the presented material compared with currents events, otherwise KIM- keep it moving.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 5:10pm On Nov 15, 2011
Attack? Nope, simply looking out for your health. For anyone to believe the stuff in that article, one needs to have stepped way out there. grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 5:39pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

Attack? Nope, simply looking out for your health. For anyone to believe the stuff in that article, one needs to have stepped way out there. grin grin grin grin

What does my health have to do with posting an article found on the internet and is aligned with current events?
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 5:45pm On Nov 15, 2011
They are not aligned with current events. They are mostly TWISTS on current events to MAKE it seem that what one has made up makes sense. What I see are people randomly selecting facts, current events, statements, and stitching them all together in order to make them comply with the picture in their heads. Connecting the presence of Ghaddafi's son in Niger to allegations of plans to destroy Nigeria? Come on!!!

In my opinion, what destroy's Nigeria are the citizens who majorly DISCONNECT themselves from reality of what they help create -- chaos and destruction --but instead create silly connections --- weave stories of how everyone else is to blame but Nigerians. What saddens me the most is these people remain the majority in that nation, and not until that majority get's help, Nigeria is surely headed towards destruction -- and it is not going to come from outside. We have all the ingredients already cooking right within our borders, no foreign help necessary.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 6:00pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

They are not aligned with current events. They are mostly TWISTS on current events to MAKE it seem that what one has made up makes sense. What I see are people randomly selecting facts, current events, statements, and stitching them all together in order to make them comply with the picture in their heads. Connecting the presence of Ghaddafi's son in Niger to allegations of plans to destroy Nigeria? Come on!!!

In my opinion, what destroy's Nigeria are the citizens who majorly DISCONNECT themselves from reality of what they help create -- chaos and destruction --but instead create silly connections --- weave stories of how everyone else is to blame but Nigerians. What saddens me the most is these people remain the majority in that nation, and not until that majority get's help, Nigeria is surely headed towards destruction -- and it is not going to come from outside. We have all the ingredients already cooking right within our borders, no foreign help necessary.

The story clearly states that powerful Nigerians are in cahoots with the global military industrial complex. You have to ask yourself why is there so much news about offshore banking accounts and properties owned overseas by the well connected? Do any light bulbs come on?

The story didn't state anything about Saif Gaddafi and Nigeria. I would think his focus would be on his homeland.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 6:09pm On Nov 15, 2011
Afro_Blue:

The story clearly states that powerful Nigerians are in cahoots with the global military industrial complex. You have to ask yourself why is there so much news about offshore banking accounts and properties owned overseas by the well connected? Do any light bulbs come on?

You mean since the 70's the so-called powerful nigerians did not own offshore banking accounts, properties etc abroad? Na today? And by powerful Nigerians, are you referring also to THE CABAL that was used to scare Nigerians into demanding a man be installed ILLEGALLY(against the constitution) as president, only for him to sit back and take advantage of the countries wealth as a result, in planning in election the next year? Again, let's stop WEAVING the RIDICULOUS to make it seem we even have a clue what is really going on. Even foreigners(thanks to Wikileaks) now seem to have a better handle of the political events in Nigeria than Nigerians, some of whom claim to live right in the heart of it all, and those who claim to have some self-given diploma in Nigerian politics.
Afro_Blue:

The story didn't state anything about Saif Gaddafi and Nigeria. I would think his focus would be on his homeland.
You missed the part about why it had to be Niger, Nigeria's neighbour, to offer Saif, asylum? You need to read the article then.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 6:27pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

You mean since the 70's the so-called powerful nigerians did not own offshore banking accounts, properties etc abroad? Na today? And by powerful Nigerians, are you referring also to THE CABAL that was used to scare Nigerians into demanding a man be installed ILLEGALLY(against the constitution) as president, only for him to sit back and take advantage of the countries wealth as a result, in planning in election the next year? Again, let's stop WEAVING the RIDICULOUS to make it seem we even have a clue what is really going on. Even foreigners(thanks to Wikileaks) now seem to have a better handle of the political events in Nigeria than Nigerians, some of whom claim to live right in the heart of it all, and those who claim to have some self-given diploma in Nigerian politics. You missed the part about why it had to be Niger, Nigeria's neighbour, to offer Saif, asylum? You need to read the article then.

Sure they did, but that was before the Africom/China cold war in Africa and about to jump off on the strength in Nja.

The powerful rats are making their preparations to jump off the ship.

Colonialism is back with a force on the continent. Best for the majority to wake up and quickly prepare to keep from being sold out or worse to global forces before it's to late. Many on this website are welcoming foreign intervention like it is manna from heaven. The war industry/countries don't do something for nothing. There will be heavy dividends to pay in the end. Also, there are daily stories cropping up about the growing narco trade problem in West Africa so the article rings some truths in this regard.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 6:30pm On Nov 15, 2011
Afro_Blue:



Sure they did, but that was before the Africom/China cold war in Africa and about to jump off on the strength in Nja.

The powerful rats are making their preparations to jump off the ship.

Colonialism is back with a force on the continent. Best for the majority to wake up and quickly prepare to keep from being sold out or worse to global forces before it's to late. Many on this website are welcoming foreign intervention like it is manna from heaven. The war industry/countries don't do something for nothing. There will be heavy dividends to pay in the end. Also, there are daily stories cropping up about the growing narco trade problem in West Africa so the article rings some truths in this regard.



Africom/China cold war? Colonialism? See this is why I said you better go get your head washed . . . what the heck? You jump from talking of Nigerian powerful rats, now you want to accuse them of being in league with the colonials or is this not where you are headed with this particular weave of yours??

ROFLMAO!! Dude, I am out . . . I have had my fill of conspiracy theories for this morning.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by AfroBlue(m): 6:33pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

Africom/China cold war? Colonialism? See this is why I said you better go get your head washed . . . what the heck? You jump from talking of Nigerian powerful rats, now you want to accuse them of being in league with the colonials or is this not where you are headed with this particular weave of yours??

ROFLMAO!! Dude, I am out . . . I have had my fill of conspiracy theories for this morning.

You forget to address that comment about my health.

Anyway, have a pleasant day.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 6:35pm On Nov 15, 2011
Kobojunkie:

Africom/China cold war? Colonialism? See this is why I said you better go get your head washed . . . what the heck? You jump from talking of Nigerian powerful rats, now you want to accuse them of being in league with the colonials or is this not where you are headed with this particular weave of yours??

ROFLMAO!! Dude, I am out . . . I have had my fill of conspiracy theories for this morning.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Chyz2: 6:45pm On Nov 15, 2011
^^^
Everything that goes against a particular hemisphere when it comes to its non-"positive" involvent in an african country, is seen as a "conspiracy theory" to some african slaves or junkies.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Godmann(m): 11:02pm On Nov 15, 2011
Chyz*:

^^^
Everything that goes against a particular hemisphere when it comes to its non-"positive" involvent in an african country, is seen as a "conspiracy theory" to some african slaves or junkies.
Kobojunkie:



Gentlemen and ladies, Remember Wiki-leaks and shell confession. We know so many Nigerians are paid agents of the Super Powers. Do not listen to what any body is saying.

These two may just be agents are are acting out of ignorance.

For sure, there is an agenda to break up Nigeria. I strongly a faction in United States Government is behind it. I believe it is all about MONEY.

I believe it is part of the continuous colonization of Africa.

Even if they are to be lies, Is it not better we do not give them a chance. If any one gives your guns to fight for your tribe or religion say NO. because they will hide under a tribal or religious liberation struggle.

We can tell how the militants of Niger Delta have liberated the people or themselves.

The best we can do is to spread the message so that we do not give anybody a chance t waste us.

I have already forwarded the link to over 700 people in my email contacts.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Horus(m): 11:42pm On Nov 15, 2011
I figured what I would do if I were the head of a foreign intelligence agency planning to take over security operations for the government by making the new president appear vulnerable, powerless and then exploiting divisions in the country in order to start two decades of extremely profitable war.

At the same time, “they,” who have been working with the terror groups for years, are building an “Al Qaeda” type organization that will be able to dart across borders and carefully orchestrate a pattern of destabilization using the same contractors that are going to be paid millions to help put in place security apparatus to protect the country.

Here are some very interresting clues; right in front of your eyes they are telling you who they are: CIA, Mossad, and MI5 are funding and helping Boko Haram.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Kobojunkie: 11:44pm On Nov 15, 2011
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by realchange: 12:12am On Nov 16, 2011
isn't it easier for Nigeria to simply call a national conference to address all local issues and fears? are the same people preventing that too? people should stop blaming the wrong people. sort your local problems through good old dialogue before foreigners help you do it.
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Godmann(m): 9:15am On Nov 16, 2011
realchange:

isn't it easier for Nigeria to simply call a national conference to address all local issues and fears? are the same people preventing that too? people should stop blaming the wrong people. sort your local problems through good old dialogue before foreigners help you do it.

How will they call a conference when most of the people around Aso Rock are part of the plot?

Read the link well, it is all about money and power. The root of all evils
Re: Nigeria: Targeted For Destruction by Godmann(m): 10:39am On Nov 16, 2011
Searched into my old mails and saw this article written in 2004 about where Obasanjo is taking us. Our present state, the link above, the linak about the sponsors of Boko Haram all point to one direction. Can we hears? Can we avert this?

Let wake up guys


Pacification and resistance (guardian newspapers of today)
By Edwin Madunagu
AS a young student, I was highly intrigued by the word "pacification". I was aware that the ordinary meaning of "pacify", is "to allay anger or agitation", or "to restore a tranquil state", and that in this sense, pacification is the process of achieving or restoring peace. But in politics and political history, I found that "pacification" conveyed something radically different. It means, specifically, the violent suppression of mass discontent, protest or rebellion. Although I found, later, that pacification - in the political sense - also carried the ideas of restitution and appeasement - suggesting that the victims of the policy must have been considered by the perpetrators as having some grounds for their attitudes - this did not dissolve the confusion that afflicted me, the joke that the English Language appeared to be playing on me.

The resolution of the contradiction in the meaning of pacification came to me in the form of Machiavellianism: the end justifying the means. In President Obasanjo's Republic, pacification means the restoration of peace by the elimination of sources of opposition essentially by violent means. The other means include the threat of violence - implicit or explicit - and the settlement of opportunists and traitors. That is what is known as the peace of the graveyard. One way of settling a dispute and restoring peace is to eliminate the opposition as a group and settle some of the opponents as individuals. My problem as a young activist was my mobility to see that there are several forms of peace and that pacification only conveys one particular form. Contemporary theatres of pacification in Nigeria include the Niger Delta on top of the list.

President Olusegun Obasanjo appears to be embarking on a twin programme of political pacification: general pacification of the polity, and special pacification of specific segments of the polity. He is doing this either as a necessary step in the realisation of the rumoured "third term" agenda, or to realise the immediate pacification objective of the "international community", or both. The objective of the general pacification is to neutralise all pockets of political opposition within the ruling party, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), and to defeat, even before the 2007 contest, all opposing political forces, including those that are now in existence and are known, those that are in existence, but underground, and those that they are threatening to emerge. [size=15pt]The objective of the special pacification is to blackmail into submission, by legal means, by settlement, and by state violence, all ethnic-based opposition to the present geopolitical structure and the political course which the regime intends to perpetuate.

The agenda sketched above is being pursued with the support of, and indeed, in alliance with, imperialism a.k.a the "international community". If the President succeeds in both objectives, an immediate product will be the emergence of a new hegemonic power bloc in Nigeria, a new power bloc that will shake up, from the roots, the existing two power blocs - the Northern power bloc and the Western power bloc - absorb their best parts and supplant them. It will be a thoroughly conservative and pro-imperialist power bloc, a slave component of the international community, a brutal and traitorous stooge that has no national pride.

If this calamity - which was predictable, and was indeed predicted - befalls Nigeria, then we shall see what fascism or neofascism is in reality, that is, outside the textbooks. It is then we shall see, in practice, what the "international community" means by "democracy" and the "fight against terrorism".
[/size] I am reminded of an anecdote: A certain geography teacher loved speaking about winter. On retirement, he stepped out of the school compound where he had lived and taught for several years. It was during a particularly severe winter, but he could not recognise the weather. He was told by his former students that it was winter. "No, children", he answered, "this is not winter. It is a disturbance in nature". Let us not behave like the old Geography teacher.

In a recent private chat, a comrade of mine suggested that the regime in Nigeria must have been given the task of undermining genuine democracy, not only in Nigeria, but also along the entire West Coast of Africa. Countries cited as examples included Ghana, Togo, Liberia and Cote d'Ivoire. The task is to ensure that the imperialist agenda (consolidating the new American Empire) is realised in every country in the region. The comrade also suggested that two countries in the Third World - Nigeria and Indonesia - have been permitted by the "international community" to delay the introduction of even the minimal market, democracy being proposed for the periphery of the new American Empire. The consolidation of the empire - is more urgent than democracy! We both laughed, but I would have been mad to throw away his hypotheses. Everyone can see what the regime is doing with the African Union (AU), Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), NEPAD, etc.

I wish to propose that we expand our conception of the "third term" agenda. I remember I made a similar proposition during the tail end of General Ibrahim Babangida's transition programme when it became clear that the General planned to install either himself, or someone, in power or, at the very least, prevent some categories of people from succeeding him. I suggested then that the rumoured "hidden agenda" of the general should be subsumed in a larger, more robust, formulation of our political problem. In a similar manner, I am suggesting that in the present situations, we should move from speculation to assumption. It makes practical political sense to assume that President Obasanjo has a "third term" agenda, that is, he is planning to extend his tenure as President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria beyond May 2007, or stamp his imprimatur on the post-2007 governance, by means that are not yet clear, even to himself. But our conception of this agenda must be a mature one.

My proposition is based on this simple reasoning: Given the current national and international situation, and the role which Nigeria is being made to play in it, President Obasanjo, acting in concert with the "international community", will fight to install, in office, as his 2007 successor, someone as loyal, as trustworthy and as dependable as himself. The best "someone" is of course Obasanjo himself. If this fails, the strategists will move to the "second best", and then the "third best", etc., and the weapons they will assemble in their arsenal will include the constitutional and the unconstitutional, the legal and the illegal, the peaceful and the violent, the national and the international. The exact weapon or combination of weapons to be used to realise this objective depends on the balance of forces at the appropriate moment. I believe that if the problem is formulated in this way, what is now known as the "third term" agenda will simply appear as one possible form - out of the several which the problem may take - rather than the problem itself. The problem remains even if Obasanjo renounced his alleged ambition tomorrow.

If that is the case, then a single strategic solution which will deal with "third term" agenda, as well as other forms of "undemocratic perpetuation", may be sought. I am convinced that his proposition embodies a strong strategy, one that is capable of winning or, at least, stopping a national mockery or disgrace. I am, however, also convinced that it will not appeal to many professional politicians including, in particular, those who are waiting to be pacified or for the correct offer to fall in line with Obasanjo's plans, and those who do not want to stake anything in any pursuit, but would rather dream of winning in all cases. Although my proposition is not a revolutionary platform, I believe it is one around which a broad democratic, anti-fascist, coalition can be built; or if such a coalition is already in existence, it could help to strengthen it, expand it and sharpen its focus for the 2007 battle.

I find it difficult at this time to predict the trajectory of President Obasanjo's pacification campaign. I doubt, however, if the effort is necessary. What is necessary at this stage is, first, to follow, very closely, the political developments in the country especially in, and around, President Obasanjo, the National Assembly, and the PDP. Secondly, to follow, very closely, what is happening in the pacification campaign in the Niger Delta and in the Southeast geopolitical zone; thirdly, on the basis of this close observation, to try to see or work out the connections between seemingly disparate events; and fourthly to try to make simple one-step predictions, that is, to intelligently speculate on what could immediately follow.

The minimum political act that is demanded of every Nigerian patriot and democrat, at this stage, is simple vow: that the "third term" agenda - whether in the restricted form of extension of tenure or in the general form of "undemocratic perpetuation" - will not be allowed to succeed. The resolution must be unconditional and categorical; that is, it must not entertain "exceptional" situations such as the existence of "emergency" or threat to "national unity" which some people must now be articulating. Make this resolution today and seek out other resolutionists. We have to resurrect the spirit of June 12, 1993 even without an Abiola.


Also the link https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-804105.0.html

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