debosky:

Nigeria has countless more pressing problems we should be devoting energy to - in the same rotten Senate the PIB bill that would create jobs for Nigerians has been in the doldrums for how many years now? Yet something that isn't even a threat (marriage of ho-mose-xuals) is swiftly passed in a matter of weeks.

It is phoolishness of the highest order - by next year a lot of the goons posting here may not be able to afford to put fuel in their generators because of subsidy removal but they care more about some random ga-ays protesting in New York.

Like someone else has said - this is equal to washing your windows while the house burns to the ground.

I will have to disagree with that.

The Poof issue is one of the most pressing and most pertinent issue for Nigeria and for Africa.

It is pressing:
- Considering the emboldenment of poof crusaders in Africa.
- The barrage of pro-poof content being churned out by popular (Western) media.
- The blatant foreign policy of the Western government to entrench its poof philosophy on Africa (some using aid as carrot)
- The outrageous scheming in the UN to make it a "human rights" issue for the world through voting of a scheming few.
- An internal report stating ending the bans on homosexuality by all members was key to the future relevance of the Commonwealth.
- The clear and outrageous attempts by the West to even force it on religious institutions and oppress people's religious beliefs in their home countries.

Nigerians and Africans don't have to sit about and say it is not a pressing issue. That is like a medieval city saying safety is not an issue when it has 100,000 barbarians at its gates.

debosky:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/5550488/Same-sex-behaviour-widespread-in-animals-according-to-new-study.html

A study? So they can not film it despite their (some few people's) claim of it being "widespread" for over 2 decades?

G.a.y behaviour? So there are no g.a.y animals, just g.a.y "behaviour"?

Sagamite:

I will have to disagree with that.

The Poof issue is one of the most pressing and most pertinent issue for Nigeria and for Africa.

It is pressing:
- Considering the emboldenment of poof crusaders in Africa.
- The barrage of pro-poof content being churned out by popular (Western) media.
- The blatant foreign policy of the Western government to entrench its poof philosophy on Africa (some using aid as carrot)
- The outrageous scheming in the UN to make it a "human rights" issue for the world through voting of a scheming few.
- The clear and outrageous attempts by the West to even force it on religious institutions and oppress people's religious beliefs.

Foreign policy is one thing, actual practice is another. Even basic human rights are absent in most of Africa, so why do you think pro-poof philosophy will cause any change as such?

Forget scheming and the like - the UN has said for YEARS that governments should spend x amount on education and African countries have never done that - why worry about some unenforceable 'declaration' when you have pressing issues?

Do the Chinese bother passing laws or do they deal with their own problems first and foremost?

Nigerians and Africans don't have to sit about and say it is not a pressing issue. That is like a medieval city saying safety is not an issue when it has a 100,000 barbarians at its gates.

Are there 100,000 poofs seeking marriage that the govt feels the need to impose 14 year sentences?

A study? So they can not film it despite their (some few people's) claim of it being "widespread" for over 2 decades?

G.a.y behaviour? So there are no g.a.y animals, just g.a.y "behaviour"?

So if film is produced will that make it OK for people to be g.ay?

debosky:

Foreign policy is one thing, actual practice is another. Even basic human rights are absent in most of Africa, so why do you think pro-poof philosophy will cause any change as such?

Forget scheming and the like - the UN has said for YEARS that governments should spend x amount on education and African countries have never done that - why worry about some unenforceable 'declaration' when you have pressing issues?

It is easy for them to help you practice it.

Name any popular western series you know that does not have positive representation and promotion of homosexuality. Be it Eastenders, Hollyoaks, Big Brother etc. I had to stop watching Dawson's Creek back in the day because of this attempt to brainwash.

They have successfully infused it in majority of our kids abroad through this overwhelming cultural and media power. They don't need you to do the entire enforcement. They can do majority of it for you remotely.

It is outrageous on its own for some few to hijack the UN and force their philosophy on the majority connivingly. You yourself will not accept that in a business deal, why should the World?

debosky:

Do the Chinese bother passing laws or do they deal with their own problems first and foremost?

The Chinese don't practice democracy.

The Chinese poofs know this and don't even dare.

debosky:

Are there 100,000 poofs seeking marriage that the govt feels the need to impose 14 year sentences?

So if film is produced will that make it OK for people to be g.ay? 

It is an unabashed and heavy statement.

Nigeria is a No Poof Zone.

The Barbarians are at the gates:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16062937
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15511081
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16068010

We are not going to stand unprepared for the battle.

It is so amazing the way these people twist things because they know majority are gullible and lack functional brain cells.

Nigeria has not banned poofs!

Nigeria has never banned poofs!

Nigeria has never planned to jail people because they are poofs!

Nigeria has banned poof acts! It is the acts that will get people in jail, not for being a poof.

Erm you cannot ban poofs - just like you can't ban armed robbers. You can only ban acts and not people as such.

Besides, how can you be a poof without committing poofery?

The government has gotten its priorities hopelessly wrong.

debosky:

Erm you cannot ban poofs - just like you can't ban armed robbers. You can only ban acts and not people as such.

Besides, how can you be a poof without committing poofery?

The government has gotten its priorities hopelessly wrong.

Exactly! We respect human rights.

You can walk like a bloody fairy, dress like a fairy, mannerise like a fairy, scream like a fairy, dance like a fairy, you will not go to jail in Nigeria.

The minute you start publically touching another fairy for intimate gratification or to declare your relationship publically, you face 14 long ones.

I for one see it as one of Nigeria's high priorities in the world we live in. The legislative representatives have also. Good thing it was highly consensus, so only took a fraction of assembly time to pass it and move on to other things. 

I am now waiting for them to ban the broadcast of any show blatantly pro-poof. Either stations don't show it or cut out aspects of the show. If you want your show broadcasted in Nigeria, you can have poof characters but the storyline, at worst, should be neutral (not blatantly promoting it as a positive affirmation or a "society must accept it" stance).

The Barbarians are at the gates, I am sharpening my sword to defend the kids we will see in Nigeria being adopted or concieved through IVF for poofs. Poor souls have no choice or rights.

rhymz:

guy stop making this comment abeg jor, if anyone has shown they lack the capacity to understand the issues being discussed, it is you. You keep digressing from the topic and bringing in alien arguments haphazardly like a reeetard making an attempt to sound intelligent. If you lack the brain power to argue your points, just read other people's educati e posts instead writing nonsense like some stray eeediot.

Did I refer to you? For replying to my comment only put you in that category. I'd say you are an abominable thwart indeed. Get the Zap off my comment. Seriously, you are just a slowpoke in the making. Look at this i.d.i.o.t rather nairalndtard talking out of his a.s.s! Go Zap yourself nitwit! Trying to advise me with insults, foolish head. Amoeba! Look at this barbarian spewing out shiits!

Whether you like it or not, it is their right to be homosexuals and there is nothing you guys can do to stop it. They are humans and as such their rights must be respected. I don't know what is wrong with some of you guys on this man-lover issue. That country is really deceiving most of you.Jeez!

men all this ranting about killing gays reminds me of the X-MEN movie where society viewed mutants as a threat and wanted them persecuted. meen dunno what made me think about xmen. dont mind me jo

If two consenting adults choose to love each other it is no one's business. If you keep making life difficult for these people some of them will secretly marry your sister or daughter. As long as they are adults they should be free to do as they choose in ANY country in the world.

Some of the people making noise here and promising to kill people because of the way they were born have committed r.ape, perhaps even murder and some even molested young girls. So I don't understand how the decisions of an adult that does not affect anyone else should bother people.

Just because we don't have the tendency or are repulsed by same sex attraction does not mean we should be mean to others. It has taken a lot of people time to come to understand that people are just born that way. The same way most men are not physically attracted to other men, hence some men are not attracted physically to women, that is just it. Some people are born albino without choice so that is the way nature is - very unpredictable in it's many manifestations.

Please let us practice consideration and tolerance for others - to make our country better. I am more concerned about ok.o haram, PHCN, fuel scarcity, bad roads, corrupt politicians, rainy season floods, runs girls that take my money, etc, than worry about people's personal choices. I guess they live more women for us!

i_Do:

If two consenting adults choose to love each other it is no one's business.  If you keep making life difficult for these people some of them will secretly marry your sister or daughter.  As long as they are adults they should be free to do as they choose in ANY country in the world.

Some of the people making noise here and promising to kill people because of the way they were born have committed r.ape, perhaps even murder and some even molested young girls.  So I don't understand how the decisions of an adult that does not affect anyone else should bother people. 

Just because we don't have the tendency or are repulsed by same sex attraction does not mean we should be mean to others.  It has taken a lot of people time to come to understand that people are just born that way.  The same way most men are not physically attracted to other men, hence some men are not attracted physically to women, that is just it.  Some people are born albino without choice so that is the way nature is - very unpredictable in it's many manifestations.

Please let us practice consideration and tolerance for others - to make our country better.  I am more concerned about ok.o haram, PHCN, fuel scarcity, bad roads, corrupt politicians, rainy season floods, runs girls that take my money, etc,    than worry about people's personal choices.  I guess they live more women for us!

Exactly! There's a lot I don't understand about same-sex attraction, but it's not like they're asking everyone to be. Of all the things we ought to be concerned about -- better living conditions, religious tolerance -- we're happy about a law that achieves absolutely nothing. Here's a Lewis Black video that sums things up:

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no be una fault,una don lost for obodo oyinbo dat is why. Awon olosi omale alokori gbogbo.

"the Overwhelming majority is heterosexual intercourse related infection?" Do you have facts to support such a sweeping assertion or is it just your own hypothesis.
I mean if we consider that some African countries already have legislations that protect and encourage the act and their cause, it can't be ruled out that a sizeable number of the viral infection, amongst other things, may have been fuelled by ho'mosexuals-both from closet ho'mosexuals that may have been doing it on the down low and the ones that are openly g'ay. Take RSA for instance, they have the highest incidence of HIV and AIDS infections plus a very very visibly active g'ay community that has succeeded in forcing their government to legalize their acts and peotect them, don't you think h'omosexualism may have fuelled the very high number too?

Zahymaka:

Exactly! There's a lot I don't understand about same-sex attraction, but it's not like they're asking everyone to be. Of all the things we ought to be concerned about -- better living conditions, religious tolerance -- we're happy about a law that achieves absolutely nothing. Here's a Lewis Black video that sums things up:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ANrvQC4wIk[/flash]

all4naija:

Whether you like it or not, it is their my right to be Same-sexs and there is somenothing you guys can do to stop it (legislation). They are I am humans and as such their I dream my supposed "rights" must be respected. I don't know what is wrong with some of you guys the West on this man-lover issue. That country West is really deceiving most of you me.Jeez!

I have helped you correct your grammar as apropriate.

i_Do:

If two consenting adults choose to love each other it is no one's business.  If you keep making life difficult for these people some of them will secretly marry your sister or daughter.  As long as they are adults they should be free to do as they choose in ANY country in the world.

Some of the people making noise here and promising to kill people because of the way they were born have committed r.ape, perhaps even murder and some even molested young girls.  So I don't understand how the decisions of an adult that does not affect anyone else should bother people. 

Just because we don't have the tendency or are repulsed by same sex attraction does not mean we should be mean to others.  It has taken a lot of people time to come to understand that people are just born that way.  The same way most men are not physically attracted to other men, hence some men are not attracted physically to women, that is just it.  Some people are born albino without choice so that is the way nature is - very unpredictable in it's many manifestations.

Please let us practice consideration and tolerance for others - to make our country better.  I am more concerned about ok.o haram, PHCN, fuel scarcity, bad roads, corrupt politicians, rainy season floods, runs girls that take my money, etc,    than worry about people's personal choices.  I guess they live more women for us!

There is a lot of cretinous pile of junk written here, let me just pick one: You used albinoism to compare with poofism as "natural".

I can prove to you albino animals exist, hence it is a natural occurrence. Can you prove poof animals exist?

Sagamite:

I have helped you correct your grammar as apropriate.

Whatever your psychological problems are, I don't know but I know you need a Psychiatrist and to be locked up for some time.

all4naija:

Whatever your psychological problems are, I don't know but I know you need a Psychiatrist and to be locked up for some time.

Guess who need a Psychiatrist and Psychological evaluation?, yeah, Its you all4naija. It is simple,majority of Nigerians want this law, guess whose will should stand?, , yeah, the majority!!!!.

Are you so S.T.U.P.I.D that you don't understand something that simple?

superior1:

Guess who need a Psychiatrist and Psychological evaluation?,  yeah, Its you all4naija. It is simple,majority of Nigerians want this law, guess whose will should stand?, , yeah, the majority!!!!.

Are you so S.T.U.P.I.D that you don't understand something that simple?

Steer clear from majority blabbing. That hasn't been a yardstick your government use to measure what to pass as bill. Haven't the majority be clamoring for development and fight of corruptions?

I think you too need to join him up for a rehab!

Nice thread. My personal view on the gay question is that government should not partake in the debate at all. It is not the government's place to define marriage regardless of the fact that i see it repulsive i think gays do not affect any one. Is gay right the issue with Nigeria at the moment? I do not think so. the senate is indeed out of touch.

superior1:

Guess who need a Psychiatrist and Psychological evaluation?,  yeah, Its you all4naija. It is simple,majority of Nigerians want this law, guess whose will should stand?, , yeah, the majority!!!!.

Are you so S.T.U.P.I.D that you don't understand something that simple?

Seriously mehn, that Kid needs to be ignored, he is trying too hard to come across as intelligent, it is obvious the fool is hopelessly ignorant and is regurgitating the nonsense he hears and sees on cable TV. He is too dense to have an opinion of his own. Let the eeediot relish in his ignorance jare!! He can't even articulate his points properly yet he is quick to call everyone ignorant; see lamebrain wey wan call im superiors names because NL present am with opportunity to learn from ppl he wont even have the guts to debate with in real life let alone call them names. Make una let the goon enjoy his nonsense views to the fullest, he obviously takes it up in the butt . . .lol. .saga no go kill me sha!!

all4naija:

Whatever your psychological problems are, I don't know but I know you need a Psychiatrist and to be locked up for some time.

At least we know what your psychological problems are and have recommended you get locked up for 14 long years for it in our nice prisons.

i_Do:

If two consenting adults choose to love each other it is no one's business. If you keep making life difficult for these people some of them will secretly marry your sister or daughter. As long as they are adults they should be free to do as they choose in ANY country in the world.

Some of the people making noise here and promising to kill people because of the way they were born have committed r.ape, perhaps even murder and some even molested young girls. So I don't understand how the decisions of an adult that does not affect anyone else should bother people.

Just because we don't have the tendency or are repulsed by same sex attraction does not mean we should be mean to others. It has taken a lot of people time to come to understand that people are just born that way. The same way most men are not physically attracted to other men, hence some men are not attracted physically to women, that is just it. Some people are born albino without choice so that is the way nature is - very unpredictable in it's many manifestations.

Please let us practice consideration and tolerance for others - to make our country better. I am more concerned about ok.o haram, PHCN, fuel scarcity, bad roads, corrupt politicians, rainy season floods, runs girls that take my money, etc, than worry about people's personal choices. I guess they live more women for us!

shut up your mouth and stop misinforming the public.

nobody is born a hom[i]o[/i]sexual.
those are the lies fagg[i]o[/i]ts tell to appear as victims. homosexuals are borne out of the sexual abuse in a child's formative years.

factors ranging from different circumstances in the life of a child. a boy serially abused by an uncle as a child might have the tendency to be [i]g[/i]ay.
boys locked up in same-sex institutions and were abused might become gay. they were not born gay but they have chosen to adapt to the habits they picked in their formative years. just like we are experts in our mother tongues, how we write, and those characters we picked up growing up.

homosexuality: - it's nurture not nature.

yeswecan:

Nice thread. My personal view on the man-lover question is that government should not partake in the debate at all. It is not the government's place to define marriage regardless of the fact that i see it repulsive i think man-loving-men do not affect any one. Is man-lover right the issue with Nigeria at the moment? I do not think so. the senate is indeed out of touch.

Are you sure you understand the enormity of the nonsense you just posted How can you say government has no business defining marriage. Like seriously, how old are you again?? Do you know that recently two g'ay men were at the court registry in Naija here to finally engage eachother as couple, what do you make of that. Do you even understand that that in itself is a crime here in Naija cos the cos the only definition of marriage the Nigerian constitution recognizes is the one between a man and a woman. Yet they have not been arrested prolly because of some legal technicalities that I believe this Bill will address soon as it is finally passed. And you think this is not an issue that deserves anyone's time? Seriously anybody that bandy that nonsense phrase about not caring what "two consenting adults" do with eachother is an irresponsible fellow that should not be accorded with any serious leadership position in any capacity even as parents or guardians. What kind of nonsense statement is that anyway, why do we have the police and other security agancies. Imagine a world where everyone carries on like that-not minding if the next guy kills his wife and kids in a fit of rage, as long as she is his wife and they are his kids nobody should raise an eye-brow. Aint that the height of irresponsibilty

Another PROGRESS!!!

The AWARD winning show, MODERN Family,  not only has poof characters to educate us on the current acceptable family structures. The liberals and LGBT complained that that is not enough, that they should be showing them being affectionate as well. The producers had to heed because it is "modern" and "progressive" to promote and support homosexuality. 

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/modern-family-the-kiss-pdas-are-a-ok

That is what they are trying to force on our society and people say it is not priority?  That is what they want on our streets, on our TV and in our kids' curriculum?

The Barbarians are at the gates!!!

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@ Madam Ileke Idi,

I knew about the Giginya Hotel by accident. Someone who went to the city lodged there and called his friend to let him know that he lodged in the hotel. That friend of his told him to run away from the hotel as soon as possible. He said that was the place where the rich and famous g@ys converge. He told him that if he didnt leave he could be invited/cajoled by some of them and that whoever saw him there would not believe he is not one of them.

See, Madam. I have interacted with many people that are h0m0sexu@ls, especially the le5bians and female bis. They are externally normal. It is not written on their faces. There are educated ones as well as barely educated and non-educated.

Some were lured into from schools through these school mother things. Some out of curiousity. Some out of frustration (in the harem system). Some out of insecurity in meeting up with the opposite sex. Some others for ritual purpose.

But many people in high and mighty places are involved. There was a woman (who had even been a president of NCWS) who was a noted bi. There is a professor who chairs the club of Le5bians in Zaria. There are both students and lecturers in the club. Many of the students have graduated into the society and are now in journalism, finance, public service, business, politics and even the police. So, the law is good but may be difficult to pass and if passed may be difficult to enforce.

The only enforceable part may be the marriage aspect but the act itself will be difficult to curtail because it is a thing of the heart and usually conducted - like most sexual acts - in the private.

HIROSHI:

But many people in high and mighty places are involved. There was a woman (who had even been a president of NCWS) who was a noted bi. There is a professor who chairs the club of Le5bians in Zaria. There are both students and lecturers in the club. Many of the students have graduated into the society and are now in journalism, finance, public service, business, politics and even the police. So, the law is good but may be difficult to pass and if passed may be difficult to enforce.

The only enforceable part may be the marriage aspect but the act itself will be difficult to curtail because it is a thing of the heart and usually conducted - like most intimate acts - in the private.

As long as the act is kept behind closed doors and it is not in the mainstream (e.g. on the streets, prints, TV or in our kids' curriculum), I am fine with the enforcement.

My priority is: not to see all4naija and Eko Ile dressed in tight clothes like sick, sick, sick freaks and dancing on floats going down Ikorodu Road saying it is "G.a.y Pride Day".

I don't need anyone stopping it beyond that. You can't legislate on what goes on in people's heads.

Sagamite:

As long as the act is kept behind closed doors and it is not in the mainstream (e.g. on the streets, prints, TV or in our kids' curriculum), I am fine with the enforcement.

My priority is not to see all4naija and Eko Ile dressed in tight clothes like a sick, sick, sick freaks and dancing on floats going down Ikorodu Road saying it is "G.a.y Pride Day".

I don't need anyone stopping it beyond that. You can't legislate on what goes on in people's heads.

I agree with you and I believe that is the essence of the law. We have something to protect and cannot afford to do 'follow-follow' on this.

Not top priority?  

Don't be fooled! The Barbarians are at the Gates. The noise you heard is them, not a partying crowd drumming.  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16092694

The Barbarians are chopping off the heads of guards of the City Wall and some people are saying there is no war and we should put your swords down. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15431142

The Cultural Warfare is on. Wait to be killed and say you did not know there was war. 

^^

Wolf crier.

Even if they review their laws, will laws make it acceptable in society? The point is, it is an insignificant problem to be issuing legislation over, especially when we have the existing so-domy laws.

Even if all African countries pass laws accepting ga-ays, it won't change the numbers of homo-sexuals in society one jot.

Sagamite:

As long as the act is kept behind closed doors and it is not in the mainstream (e.g. on the streets, prints, TV or in our kids' curriculum), I am fine with the enforcement.

My priority is not to see all4naija and Eko Ile dressed in tight clothes like a sick, sick, sick freaks and dancing on floats going down Ikorodu Road saying it is "G.a.y Pride Day".

I don't need anyone stopping it beyond that. You can't legislate on what goes on in people's heads.

There are already laws that can handle that - they'll never get a police permit for such a parade anyways.

Sagamite:

As long as the act is kept behind closed doors and it is not in the mainstream (e.g. on the streets, prints, TV or in our kids' curriculum), I am fine with the enforcement.

My priority is not to see all4naija and Eko Ile dressed in tight clothes like a sick, sick, sick freaks and dancing on floats going down Ikorodu Road saying it is "G.a.y Pride Day".

I don't need anyone stopping it beyond that. You can't legislate on what goes on in people's heads.

on point!

debosky:

^^

Wolf crier.

Even if they review their laws, will laws make it acceptable in society? The point is, it is an insignificant problem to be issuing legislation over, especially when we have the existing so-domy laws.

Even if all African countries pass laws accepting ga-ays, it won't change the numbers of homo-sexuals in society one jot.

There are already laws that can handle that - they'll never get a police permit for such a parade anyways.

Wolf?

Wolf ke? 

You are seeing a pride of lions you dey say na wolf I talk. 

Where did you see me say we should stop or drop the number of poofs?

You seem to have forgotten alot of the discussions we have had previously.

THE MINUTE you relax your laws, expect the tsunami of poof rights demands (on work, on TV, on magazines, on adoption, on pension, on representation etc). And YOU CANNOT STOP THE TSUNAMI when your flood barriers are not built high, tight and strong.

Abeg, no give us Trojan Horse.