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Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 11:40pm On Jan 03, 2012
How would you feel if a "prophet" or any "man of God" call your people "dog" while he refers to others as "holy" and "children of God"?

Matthew 15:21-28
"Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour".

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Mark 7:24-29
"And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid. For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet: The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter. But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs. And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs. And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter".

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Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 12:06am On Jan 04, 2012
It's called focus. He focused on his primary assignment as at that time.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 12:24am On Jan 04, 2012
Joagbaje:

It's called focus. He focused on his primary assignment as at that time.

interesting definition!!!

telling someone he was only sent to someone else.

calling that someone a "dog".

then only attending to the "dog" for admitting her status,is called "focus"!!!

what amazing "focus"!!!

you are a "dog" Joagbaje,let us "focus" on the thread!!!

well,i didn't call you a "dog",Jesus did because you eat from the crumbs since the bread isn't meant for you and your likes!!!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by plappville(f): 1:56am On Jan 04, 2012
A true characteristics of a pure Muslim. What happened to the woman bordens that brought her to Jesus?
He did not refares to the Woman as Dog. It was same saying the he was not sent to her.

"Unless u become like little children, ye cannot see the kingdom of God." Do u think he is directly telling u to go in your mums womb and reborn to become like little Children? No.

“I tell you the truth, "it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." Again I tell you, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle" than for a rich man to enter the ,

Will u now say, he is calling his people Camel and Niddle?

If there is anyone who shows true racism is he that Arab Prophet that sold your slave formothers as an exchange.
He Massacra black race like no mans business. U re not Arab, so why having hot blood when he is been exposed!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Joagbaje(m): 2:09am On Jan 04, 2012
plappville:

A true characteristics of a pure Muslim. What happened to the woman bordens that brought her to Jesus?
He did not refares to the Woman as Dog. It was same saying the he was not sent to her.

"Unless u become like little children, ye cannot see the kingdom of God." Do u think he is directly telling u to go in your mums womb and reborn to become like little Children? No.

“I tell you the truth, "it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." Again I tell you, "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle" than for a rich man to enter the ,

Will u now say, he is calling his people Camel and Niddle?

If there is anyone who shows true racism is he that Arab Prophet that sold your slave formothers as an exchange.
He Massacra black race like no mans business. U re not Arab, so why having hot blood when he is been exposed!

Excellent ! Why would someone be reading a different interpretation into the bible. As you said,it was clear enough Jeus was giving sn illustration.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 9:25am On Jan 04, 2012
It was a simply teaching to show that everyone is qualified.

LagoShia, are you an arab?
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 1:11pm On Jan 04, 2012
Joagbaje:

Excellent ! Why would someone be reading a different interpretation into the bible. As you said,it was clear enough Jeus was giving sn illustration.

what the verses portray is simple:the illustration or analogy even though literal is abusive to the gentiles and racist in speech.

Plappville is drawing other analogies to show the words are figurative.that is fine.but the analogy in this case is racist.how hard is that for you guys to see? furthermore i opened another thread where Jesus explicitly denied being sent to the world.he said he was only sent to the children of israel:

"Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone"!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-821784.0.html

East:

It was a simply teaching to show that everyone is qualified.

LagoShia, are you an arab?

no i am a "black jew" from Enugu!Olodo!!!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 1:12pm On Jan 04, 2012





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My brother , this is 2012, don't kill yourself oooooooo , we need you here for a laugh grin grin grin
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by buzugee(m): 1:23pm On Jan 04, 2012
see like i always say, biblical stories are meant to be taken allegorically and not literally. the allegorical explanation to that story will be that 'salvation is meant for the children of israel first and then the rest of the world gets their salvation through the children of israel. its called prioritizing. the children of israel are his first born children. the first people he created. the so called shemetic black people. the people whom he gave his commandments to who in turn will enlighten and be the light for the heathen (gentile) nations.

analogy-if you have a serious project that needs executing and you have a big time competent project manager who can oversee the project from beginning to end, and then you have 100 laborers with no kind of knowledge whatsoever. if when you walk onto the site you encounter a laborer, and yet you are trying to convey how you want the project done to somebody. if the laborer says, tell me about the project. i bet your response will be ' nah go and get me the project manager'

by the woman exercising her faith with her utterances, she showed that she has as much knowledge and faith as the children of israel and hence she was healed.

in my analogy-if after you request the project manager the laborer tells you that you can tell me what needs to be done, and he goes ahead and dazzles you with his knowledge of projects. he will win your confidence and then you can then say 'okay i will tell you everything i need done'.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 1:32pm On Jan 04, 2012
buzugee:

see like i always say, biblical stories are meant to be taken allegorically and not literally. the allegorical explanation to that story will be that 'salvation is meant for the children of israel first and then the rest of the world gets their salvation through the children of israel. its called prioritizing. the children of israel are his first born children. the first people he created. the so called shemetic black people. the people whom he gave his commandments to who in turn will enlighten and be the light for the heathen (gentile) nations.

please dont break your head with big words.do you know that Shem,son of Noah,is said to be in jewish text to have been cursed and turned into a black and he is the ancestor of black people?

in the encounter between Jesus and the gentile woman,he said the "bread is for the children".it was when the woman accepted her status as a "dog" that she was pleased with.


analogy-if you have a serious project that needs executing and you have a big time competent project manager who can oversee the project from beginning to end, and then you have 100 laborers with no kind of knowledge whatsoever. if when you walk onto the site you encounter a laborer, and yet you are trying to convey how you want the project done to somebody. if the laborer says, tell me about the project. i bet your response will be ' nah go and get me the project manager'

by the woman exercising her faith with her utterances, she showed that she has as much knowledge and faith as the children of israel and hence she was healed.
the woman was desperate for her daughter to be healed.even a babalao would have proved to be enough for her.anyone that can heal her daughter.dont deceive yourself and read what is not written in the account.



in my analogy-if after you request the project manager the laborer tells you that you can tell me what needs to be done, and he goes ahead and dazzles you with his knowledge of projects. he will win your confidence and then you can then say 'okay i will tell you everything i need done'.

so this is a case of "the end justifies the means".
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 1:34pm On Jan 04, 2012
frosbel:






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My brother , this is 2012, don't kill yourself oooooooo , we need you here for a laugh grin grin grin

your heart is expiring slowly and your faith is fading away and you're busy here faking a laugh.keep hiding behind "tidytim" to post rubbish.i just fear for you from atheism.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by buzugee(m): 1:38pm On Jan 04, 2012
LagosShia:

please dont break your head with big words.do you know that Shem,son of Noah,is said to be in jewish text to have been cursed and turned into a black and he is the ancestor of black people?

in the encounter between Jesus and the gentile woman,he said the "bread is for the children".it was when the woman accepted her status as a "dog" that she was pleased with.
the woman was desperate for her daughter to be healed.even a babalao would have proved to be enough for her.anyone that can heal her daughter.dont deceive yourself and read what is not written in the account.

so this is a case of "the end justifies the means".
THE CURSED SON OF NOAH IS HAM NOT SHEM. get it right  wink hamites will be ethipeans, sudanese, erritreans, hausas, fulanis, ancient egyptians, somalians

and like i told you, the story is allegorical not literal. meaning it is a symbolic story
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 1:40pm On Jan 04, 2012
LagosShia:

your heart is expiring slowly and your faith is fading away and you're busy here faking a laugh.keep hiding behind "tidytim" to post rubbish.i just fear for you from atheism.

I am also plappville ,East and Bulldog grin grin grin grin

You are making a caricature of yourself here, be careful before they sack you from your Job if you have one.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 2:01pm On Jan 04, 2012
buzugee:

THE CURSED SON OF NOAH IS HAM NOT SHEM. get it right wink hamites will be ethipeans, sudanese, erritreans, hausas, fulanis, ancient egyptians, somalians

and like i told you, the story is allegorical not literal. meaning it is a symbolic story
so what makes you a "shemite"? i read your posts and you have being boasting of being "shemite".so knowing that jewish mythology says blacks are cursed,i thought of shem to be the "cursed one".so what makes you a "shemite" and not a "hamite"?

the arabs and jews who are semites are the ones descended from shem.so how do you qualify yourself as "shemite"?
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jan 04, 2012
LagosShia:

so what makes you a "shemite"? i read your posts and you have being boasting of being "shemite".so knowing that[b] jewish mythology says blacks are cursed[/b],i thought of shem to be the "cursed one".so what makes you a "shemite" and not a "hamite"?

the arabs and jews who are semites are the ones descended from shem.so how do you qualify yourself as "shemite"?

Hypocrite !!!

False prophet Muhammad had blacks castrated and called them Raisin heads and Abed which stands for slave.

You are not just a slave of False prophet Muhammad but also a slave of ALLAH.

Your MO was one helluva racist among other things.

Go figure !!!!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 2:17pm On Jan 04, 2012
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 11:

Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, “Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief.”



A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle and said, “My wife has delivered a black child.” The Prophet said to him, “Have you camels?” He replied, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “What color are they?” He replied, “They are red.” The Prophet further asked, “Are any of them gray in color?” He replied, “Yes.” The Prophet asked him, “Whence did that grayness come?” He said, “I think it descended from the camel’s ancestors.” Then the Prophet said (to him), “Therefore, this child of yours has most probably inherited the color from his ancestors.”


Keep bowing before your Arab masters, ALLAH's slave.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by buzugee(m): 2:19pm On Jan 04, 2012
LagosShia:

so what makes you a "shemite"? i read your posts and you have being boasting of being "shemite".so knowing that jewish mythology says blacks are cursed,i thought of shem to be the "cursed one".so what makes you a "shemite" and not a "hamite"?

the arabs and jews who are semites are the ones descended from shem.so how do you qualify yourself as "shemite"?
arabs are Ishmealites, so called white jews are edomites. all black people except the hamites are shemites. its all in the bible. chinese are moabites.
every race you see on earth has a biblical name. all these classifications (chinese, black, negro, arab, indian, west indian etc etc all came about when caucasians assumed worldly power). see caucasians like to label things with name. just like they labelled our continent africa after scipio africanus and america after amerigo vespucci, and lagos after portugal city, and puerto rico (rich port), native indian, etc etc etc etc. all labels
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 2:13pm On Jan 08, 2012
frosbel:

Hypocrite !!!

False prophet Muhammad had blacks castrated and called them Raisin heads and Abed which stands for slave.

You are not just a slave of False prophet Muhammad but also a slave of ALLAH.

Your MO was one helluva racist among other things.

Go figure !!!!

"O you men!
We have created you of a male and a female,
and then We made you
(into different) races and tribes
so that you may know each other.
Surely the most honourable of you with Allah
is the one who is most pious among you;
surely Allah Is All-Knowing & Aware."
(The Qur'an 49:13)
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 2:32pm On Jan 08, 2012
frosbel:

Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 11:

Volume 1, Book 11, Number 662:

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, “Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief.”



A bedouin came to Allah’s Apostle and said, “My wife has delivered a black child.” The Prophet said to him, “Have you camels?” He replied, “Yes.” The Prophet said, “What color are they?” He replied, “They are red.” The Prophet further asked, “Are any of them gray in color?” He replied, “Yes.” The Prophet asked him, “Whence did that grayness come?” He said, “I think it descended from the camel’s ancestors.” Then the Prophet said (to him), “Therefore, this child of yours has most probably inherited the color from his ancestors.”


Keep bowing before your Arab masters, ALLAH's slave.

even though i do not regard "sahih bukhari" as reliable as i am Shia and sunni hold "sahih bukhari" reliable",i am still going to defend the hadith you posted from "sahih bukhari" and i will stand by it because really there is nothing wrong in the hadith.even i as a Shia who is critical of "sahih bukhari" and see it as a politicized compilation of hadiths,i dont think anything is wrong with the single hadith frosbel posted.

if you have white grandparents,is it not possible for you to look fair? likewise,if a white man has black ancestors,is it not possible for him to
have children that look darker?

the Prophet (sa) used the analogy of a man who has red camels giving birth to gray camels because of the camel's ancestors.implicitly,the bedouin man has black ancestors.therefore his child is dark.in other words,the Prophet (sa) is absolving the wife of adultery.

this hadith was copied by frosbel from an infamous anti-islamic missionary website.LOLZ!!!!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by newmi(m): 1:21pm On Jan 09, 2012
John 3:16
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He[ even] gave up His only begotten( a unique) Son, so that whoever believes in( trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish( come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal( everlasting) life.
this doesn't sound any bit like being a racist
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LogicMind: 1:28pm On Jan 09, 2012
I think that Jesus is a racist and maybe a closet homo. I also believe that Mohammed (piss unto his name) is a pedophile and a murderer.

Satan, on the contrary only want us to enjoy life.

Seems quite simple to me who to follow.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Nobody: 3:10pm On Jan 09, 2012
is this from allah who thinks blacks are from satan and have raisins as heads? Ever wondered why blacks are refered to as "abd" (slave) and are STILL being trafficked as such in Mauritania.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 3:22pm On Jan 09, 2012
davidylan:

is this from allah who thinks blacks are from satan and have raisins as heads? Ever wondered why blacks are refered to as "abd" (slave) and are STILL being trafficked as such in Mauritania.

where did the Allah say blacks are from satan? i'm afraid that you who claims to be a black unfortunately is from satan.so you think all of us are like you.

in the Quran,Allah calls mankind without distinction "Ibadi" (plural for "abd"wink.

you are mentioning mauritania where there is a feudal way of life that is based on cultural practices and prejudices.but you forget to mention Italy and Europe the "civilized west" and "christian nations", where your benin sisters are sent as se.x slaves.you got a long way to go before lecturing people on civilization and justice.
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by LagosShia: 3:30pm On Jan 09, 2012
newmi:

John 3:16
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He[ even] gave up His only begotten( a unique) Son, so that whoever believes in( trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish( come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal( everlasting) life.
this doesn't sound any bit like being a racist

we are not even talking about the subject of whether or not he was sent to all nations or just the jews.another thread exists to deal with that topic and the link is earlier provided in a previous post.we clearly see that Jesus insisted severall that he was only sent to jews.whatever contradicts that should be clearly seen as a contradiction and the source of that contradiction claiming Jesus was sent to mankind is not authentic.once more,here is the link to the thread:

"Jesus (pbuh) Only Sent To The Jews And Not To Nigerians-leave Him Alone"!
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-821784.0.html

what we are talking here as explicitly stated by Jesus,are the words of referring to gentiles as "dogs".
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Kobojunkie: 6:52am On Dec 17, 2022
LagosShia:
How would you feel if a "prophet" or any "man of God" call your people "dog" while he refers to others as "holy" and "children of God"?
I would think to take Him at His Word! undecided

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Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:07am On Dec 17, 2022
LagosShia:
How would you feel if a "prophet" or any "man of God" call your people "dog" while he refers to others as "holy" and "children of God"?

Is it not True that you are a dog? So stop being a dog if you do not want to be called a dog.

Secondly, did you not hear that He is The Truth? Therefore, He must say The Truth.

And Truth does no wrong!
Re: Was Jesus A Racist Based On The Bible? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:09am On Dec 17, 2022
O kobojunkie madness of raising dead threads. What a maniac

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