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CapitalCee:
You captured all the truths here. But most man utd fans recently are usually deluded.
The main reason Ole misbehaves and gambles anyhow was that he just needed to string together 2 wins and boom! his job is safe. Lampard doesn't have that luxury so is all Chelsea managers since Abramovic came, thats why they dont joke or do mr nice guy with aany player they are result oriented

You win league this season with Chelsea, or even double, show no real sign of progress next season, you are off. Ancellotti, Conte and Mourinho are typical examples, Di matteo won UCL and FA cup cup the previous season, he did not last up to Xmas. Or you come in as a manager, performs below the person you replaced, you are off too by xmas, you dont even need to be awful. Chelsea have not been better than Man United player for player for many seasons, but they always win something, the difference is the quality of the managers and how serious the club prioritises results, thats why united Job is usually coveted, because you can misbehave anyhow you want and still finish the season. Last season Ole was clearly on the ropes and was set to miss out on top 4 until Covid19 and the lucky signing of Bruno gave him a ridiculous lifeline. Because pogba and Rashford were already out of the season if not for covid. With a serious club, Ole would have been off at the end of last season after bottling FA cup and Europa Semis.

Its also baffling, that a so called big club like United, indulges players who are clearly not good enough for years before offloading them, we persist with them, pampering them, paying them extortionate wages and still they can't play their hearts out, eg Martial and Pogba, we also persist with injury prone players and refuse to offload.

I know it might not be popular at the moment but DDG should not be earning more than Oblak, Neuer, Allison, Ter Stegen and Hugo Lloris for whatever reason, DDG only cut out his errors and raring to go due to his place is in danger now. He was relaxed for a long time dropping disasterclasses week in week out until Henderson came, that goes for other outfield players.

Check any club with high manager turnover, they are usually successful, because the managers are result oriented and doesnt experiment. Imagine Solskjaer leaning coaching with a club like Man United. Del Bosque won league and 2 UCL with Madrid, he was off once he was eliminated by Juve in the semis of UCL despite winning the league that season, Ancellotti, Ben schuster, Henkyes, Capello and even Mourinho won something but were sacked the moment the saw signs of slacking, the result is there fall all to see, same with bayern, same with Barca. Madrid will never allow underperforming players more than one extra season to find his feet, thats a serious club, Jones, Bailly, Rojo, Lingard and Pogba are still at the club occupying space, Solskjaer will even tell you that they are in his plans, do you think he will say that at Chelsea or Madrid?


The earlier Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is sacked and sent back to his Scandinavian country the better. We will keep going round and round without any progress.

#OLEOUT

I have said a lot about high manager turnover and success, but my people want stability. These days, stability is shitt, best we can get is top 4 finish and no trophy every damn season, we need to hire, sack, re-hire, re-sack for success.

No time for this nonsense experiment jare. Juve, Real Madrid, Bayern, Barca, Chelsea etc don’t care about stability, success is the main thing!

See as dem Wash us for their 3rd goal. This is painful sha.

olabode89:
How can you watch this match and blame Ole.

No one is blaming him for Martial’s stup1dity, I am blaming him for keeping Fred on the pitch.

olabode89:
Na OGS tell Fred make e no fit control ball properly abi

Even top DMs get replaced in games like this, you can’t joke with games like this na.

TalabiAudu:

True na, he played a fast one on us, he knew what he did na.....I no blame am sha...

Herrera na bastard!

OGS no get sense, commot Fred since, he no hear.

Nawa o

larride:
Martial is an idiot

But he did hit it well this time na. He was just unlucky!

patrickmuf:
Lol Pogba fc don fold since...Even baba Weed no dey attend meeting again...

I almost suspend meetings for Martial fc but that Trevor guy cqme in with renewed vigor...

Pogba Fc still dey o. We die there!

KingAlabi:
This was Tottenham finishing 3rd with 70 points and next season finishing 2nd with 86 points

But it is only in united that our rivals will gain ground on us

This actually buttresses my point, this is a massive step up. First position -81 points, Tottenham - 70. Now, the second table shows First position - 93, Tottenham - 86 points, but this time second position.

Tell me if Tottenham progressed or regressed? Also, even though the first position’s points were higher by 12 points, the following year, Tottenham improved their points by 16 points, while they narrowed the gap from 11 points to 7 points. This thing is relative (YoY and relative to first position), not absolute.

KingAlabi:
And if Moyes was manager in 2019 we would have come 6th with 60 or less with your assumption na

So position isn't important now bah

So if we get 80 points and come 4th to you it is better than getting 70points and come 1st

Oga this your mediocrity no get levels na

I dont think you understand my point. There is no assumption here, I am comparing Moyes’ output to OGS’s in terms of points.

Also, this thing is not rocket science, compare a year when a league leader amassed 81 points and the club that comes 4th (say Arsenal) gets 70 points, and another year where a leader got 100 points and the same club, this time in 3rd position got 66 points, what does that tell you about Arsenal fc? Is that progress?

I don’t know why you are not getting it sha. Anyway, whatever rocks your boat!

Karleb:
This argument don tire me, I swear.

If we win the league with 78 points, it's simply mean we won the league.

These Shalaye will become irrelevant.

Lol, I already said it that we are looking at relative performance. Vs previous years and vs other managers/teams. Except we should stop using stats for analysing football, which means we should stop counting goals and assists!

Karleb:
How would you feel if we win the league with 78 points?

Well, it means the other teams were shyte, and if we were very good, then we should have amassed 90 points because the other teams could not match us. Should be relative, if we are improving and others are regressing, then the gap should be wider, and the points should be higher. Also, if we are regressing and the leader is always improving, then the gap is wider while our points stay the same or reduces!

We did 66 two seasons ago, and same last season, shey that one na improvement? Forget about position!

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KingAlabi:
Baba stop this mediocrity, if you win the league with 80 and another wins it 96 points no body gives a fvck.

If ole ended last season with 75 points and was still in 6th place will you be happy

Well, 75 points is a massive improvement vs 66 points as long as the league leader has less than 90 points. And please tell me if you’d be happy for us to finish 3rd with 59 points when the leader amassed more than 90 points. It means we are regressing, if things pick up for the others the following season, we are screwed!

KingAlabi:
I guess Leicester weree useless for carrying the premiere league with 81 points after all their mates did it with 98points and if they were in that season they would have been 3rd.

The things I see here dey freak me Sha.

This your shalaye no get part 3. How can you tell me that OGS on 66 points in 2019 did well vs Moyes on 64 points in 2013?

Maybe you should analyze the performance on a season by season basis, or do diff-in-diff analysis. Take utd’s points in reference years, and deduct from the points accumulated by the leaders, then check the one that has the lower difference.

We are not looking at positions, we are reviewing performances of the managers, what you should understand is the tougher the competition is in a season, the lesser the points amassed by teams on the log. Also, you get to see few points differences.

If OGS were to be the manager in 2013, we would have amassed less than 60 points, simple!

Youngzero2:
Guys if you were a man u's executive chairman and you were given the freedom of choosing four players to buy in the transfer market and the team's formation.Who and what will be your pick?

As for me, my preferred team's formation will be a 4-4-2 formation.
I'll be getting upemacano,lamptey,grealish and Frankie je jong

Rashford. Cavani

Grealish Bruno. Vande beek

De jong

Telles. Lamptey
Upemacano. Maguire.

De gea


Manager:Bielsa/ten haag
I think this team will be very attractive and destructive

Current team is attractive and destructive, either OGS steps up or GTF. We need to be aiming for minimum of top 2 EPL finish and a semifinal spot in the UCL. This team can do it.

Karleb:
Nothing like OGS has been lucky in transfer market.

OGS have actually been getting it right.

If only OGS can be shouting and dancing like Conte, Guardiola, Klopp them maybe some people here will look him side.

We all know we can't contend for UCL or EPL this season. That'll be by next year. The requirements this year is a top 3 finish, either F. A or EFL and a good run in UCL.

At least, we should be able to upset big teams.


No one likes OGS inconsistency but make we dey free the guy. I mean we've not even played 19 league games yet.

Who would believe by now we would be same point with Everton that was firmly rooted at EPL summit?

Lol, when we sign good players, na the manager, when they turn out badly, na Woodward......hmmmmm

You people should take it easy sha.

KingAlabi:
So did the standard reduce with Mourinho??

If ole doesn't live up to what is expected he will be sacked just like Mourinho

Below is ole and Moyes full season at old Trafford

One is an experienced manager with everton

The other a Norwegian PE teacher

Give accolades to who it due

Bros, someone had 64 points (with the league leader having 86), and another 66 with leader having 99. Which one makes sense to you?

adebayo201:
... One thing with nani that Olè no get nah consistency. Baba get I word and he's stick to it...

Haha, OGS should come learn how to be consistent from the guy.

Karleb:


The guy is trying out irony.

Lol, na him sabi jare

This one will just be dropping posts and pictures that are not related.

Uniquisite:
Hope this won't keep him out?

Lol, EPL na street things!

Trevor012:
Lostmyzeal,nani, nitrogen and smellymouth. They're probably crying somewhere now

Lol, I was the first person that was hoping for 3 goals in the second half. Of course, I have issues with Ole, I cant be carried away with his 'one chance' bus, we have seen him do it many times.

I lowkey hope that things get better from here, but yeah, no one can trust Amaka.

Nikiballer:
8 straight away wins in manyoo history,Even Ferguson couldnt..... OLE-IN,#oleout wankers in the mud...

Lol...

Ole has started his fake runs.....abeg, carry your inconsistent manager commot for here.

Ope oooo. Up next, Chelsea vs Tottenham

Perfecto.....

Gooolllllllleeeeeeeeeeeee

Mehn, 1 point is BS o, either we win or lose, a draw is useless!

Rashford should have been selfish there. Decision making is tough sha.

chrisley024:
Pls don't give us false hope

I'll never be convinced, but 3 points very important.