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elampiro: What did the pope mean by ''Jesus became the sinner for us. When you go to confession it is not that you confess your sins but you say to Jesus, here are your sins and I will sin again'' - Pope Francis (I shared the link on first page).

Then he made compromising comments about gays. Many priests in US are said to be confused in interpreting and implementing that comment in their dealing with gays. Some are said to be considering now whether to allow then attend communion. Na wai!

u made a statement and u directed me to d link u provided at d first page,now am directing u to dat same link and see if it is in line wit ur statement. who is fooling who here.

and to ur second statement go reread d pope statement on gay with an open mind.

and pls provide a link whether edited or original to back dis ur statement, "Many priests in US are said to be confused in interpreting and implementing that comment in their dealing with gays. Some are said to be considering now whether to allow then attend communion. "

may God help us.

lorretta u: what of the Torah, the Talmud,the Koran (even though na copy copy) and other holy books of other religions? Does that mean those books are irrelevant? It is a known fact that bhudism is more peaceful than Christianity. At least followers of bhuda are peaceful and very kind(even against their personal wishes). What of followers of Christ(my lord)? They are filled with hate, deceit, lies and fornication(me included). Now following the nature of man, it is evident that the world is not six thousand years as the bible said, and it is also a fact that humanism is greater than any religion on earth. If you listen to my holy father(pope Francis) , he spoke the truth on that issue. Who will Christ forgive: a good Christian that that was part of killing a Muslim? Or an atheist that brought a stranded stranger into his house to eat, drink and sleep? In these two instances the only thing that was followed was their conscience. As long as you are not wicked to your fellow man and as long as you make people happy and inspired by your way of life, there is a place for you in heaven

True talk my sister, like thé parable of thé good samaritan Saïd by Christ Himself ( key point, d priest and d Samaritan man.)

elampiro: Jesus never encourage sin.

Secondly, it will be blasphemous to put Jesus in the level of the Pope. The Pope is to obey Jesus and teach Jesus' word, not twisting Jesus' word to confuse lay men.

are u saying pope encourages sin, lie or if u have authentic proof to u claim show me if nt watch ur tonque.

secondly, how did he put d pope in d same level with Jesus. dont u preach dat if Jesus can over come d devil's temptation dat we can do same.why didn't u say its blasphemous and dat Jesus is a supernatural being and we are just humans so we can't overcome temptation or even try.
watch ur tongue

may God help us

Christmasdon: . watch your mouth girl.

what is watch ur mouth, is she nt saying d truth, and mind u some of this atheists and d Muslims are born and are brought up with dat belief.what of if u are born in to one of dis groups,would u have find it easy to change? and will total condemnation b d best way to change,neva, cos dey won't listen to u. and mind u, my God will neva support dat rather He wants us to show them love. and I will love u Pple to remember d story of d good samaritan and ask yourself who are d Samaritans and their beliefs.

One thing I always tell Pple is this, assuming I was nt born into a Christian family which gave me d privilege to knw d truth, I would have find it so so difficult to b a christian by mere looking at d way we d so called Christian and Christian leaders behave and d disunity among christians.

my advice to all christians and Christian leaders is, if u want to convert any body is not by outright condemnation and quoting bible verses dat dey don't knw like Jesus is d only way, d truth and light couple wit ur bad lifestyle but it is by bringing dem close,showing dem love with a good lifestyle den u will win their heart and it will b easy for u to pass ur teachings and bible quotations across to dem. if not dey will give 1001 reasons not to believe and convert.

let's pray for God's wisdom to see what d pope ment and not behaving like d Jews,dat always want to find fault in d teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

may God help us.

Pple, I will like u Pple to read my first post where I quoted d link provided by d OP and explain to me how does dat statement equate to dis topic.

(Pope Francis To
Atheists: You Dont Have To Believe In God
To Go To Heaven) .

u Pple should stop criticizing blindly.

pls people let's read that statement again analyse it.


In comments likely to enhance his
progressive reputation, Pope Francis has
written a long, open letter to the founder
of La Repubblica newspaper, Eugenio
Scalfari, stating that non-believers would
be forgiven by God if they followed their
consciences.
Responding to a list of questions
published in the paper by Mr Scalfari,
who is not a Roman Catholic, Francis
wrote: “You ask me if the God of the
Christians forgives those who don’t
believe and who don’t seek the faith. I
start by saying – and this is the
fundamental thing – that God’s mercy has
no limits if you go to him with a sincere
and contrite heart. The issue for those
who do not believe in God is to obey their
conscience.
“Sin, even for those who have no faith,
exists when people disobey their
conscience.”

naijadeyhia: Oh really? Any human being? if any human being can then why do you need mary? Christ needs no mediator. He alone is the mediator between man and God. Those who died in Christ and who are serving Christ today and yet alive are all saints. The difference now that the dead to us but alive in Christ saints have run their race and finished their course. All they are doing now is worshiping God and not occupying a mediatory position. Christ shed his blood, suffered and died for all men. No one else did this except Him and this put Him in the seat of a mediator between man and God because he that was without sin was made sin for us. Did Mary die for the whole world? Was she the one beaten and bruised and given a crown of thorns? Was she the one crucified and buried? Was she the one who rose again from the dead on the 3rd day? Questions, questions, questions!

pls which of d churches do u attend, b bold pls? So we can discuss more.

BERNIMOORE: bolded above, jesus was not expecting the woman to commit another adultery! simple

he wants the peopleto droptheir stone so that she would not be stoned to death but have another chance!

but your s.tupid pope francis as im.becile as he was he was like a rubberstamp tothe catholic gays, he dare not no say, 'sin no more' theywill kick his bom bom out of office


EWU goat like you can not see that

i see u are fully out to display ur stupidity. Did u read my last post very well. And if u do and u still posted dat trash to display ur stupidity,then i rest my case cause ur stupidity has no limit. How many time have u been told go and sin no more and u r still sinning.mumu

BERNIMOORE: if you must wait for the last judgement have you done the unrepentant sinner any good?

by that time there will be no remedy, do you treat a gun shot with mere bandage? you are a big olodo like your stupid and slowpoke pope francis!

now i see that you are a block headed omo nna! you are OLODO RABATA OJU EJA LOMOOJE

POPE FRANCIS IS A COWARD!the whole world saw it! and a big disappointment ever to christianity, what a shame! Anofiaaaa, oh i pity him

Since you hate the truth, i will flog your bom bom with what you loved, lets go now!


nnatom:

since homosexuals run in your family, pls go on to practice it, but dont say that you are not aware of the consequencies..

see u are clueless, nw u are posting trash to qualify ur stupidity.

What do u mean by must u wait for d last judgment. Mumu so u are nw god dat will judge first,ahhhhh ur level of ignorance is high.

All u have to do for dis homosexuals, is to include them in ur daily pray for God to change their heart and ways cos if u condemn them they will always bring stupid reasons like u do to justify their action and if u kill them u have nt saved a soul either. Just pray for them for God knw his ways of punishing and bringing back his lost sheep. Put dis into ur thick skull

BERNIMOORE: if you must wait for the last judgement have you done the unrepentant sinner any good?

by that time there will be no remedy, do you treat a gun shot with mere bandage? you are a big olodo like your stupid and slowpoke pope francis!

now i see that you are a block headed omo nna! you are OLODO RABATA OJU EJA LOMOOJE

POPE FRANCIS IS A COWARD!the whole world saw it! and a big disappointment ever to christianity, what a shame! Anofiaaaa, oh i pity him

Since you hate the truth, i will flog your bom bom with what you loved, lets go now!


nnatom:

since homosexuals run in your family, pls go on to practice it, but dont say that you are not aware of the consequencies..

read john8:1-11 dat i posted up already.

Now are u saying dat christ is a coward and he also commit adultery.
Mumu,bloody sinner like u wey won judge another sinner.

El Guapo: [color=#0066ff]I've read so many Verses In the bible where Xtians are admonished not to consider Judging a Xtian brother, as Judging in this context literally mean 'condemnation'.

But that didnt stop the Bible from also Voicing out the need to Call a Spade a Spade.

The Pope Is not trying to act as 'Mr Religious' here, he's only trying to exonerate himself from the taunts that'd emanate when he rightly condem Homosexualism, as he'd be hampering some Human rights.

I've always thought a true Xtian as one who'd be measured In the fullness of Christ and I know too well that Christ made the right calls not minding if he was violating any human right - The Pope has to show he's a True fellower of Christ.[/color]

lets call a spade a spade abi.
Lets read john8:1-11

John 8

King James Version (KJV)

8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

So what do u have to say to this.

People like BENIMOORE will say christ is also an adulterer or a coward. And u will say he did nt call a spade a spade. Pls learn from Christ he never condemned her rather he showed her love and she ended up being a good fellow. So watch what u say.

BERNIMOORE: good boy! now verse 2 above told you what, that is if you must judge?

mathew 7:2 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"

now reconcile it again with what jesus mean below;



John 7
24[b] Stop judging by mere appearances,[size=14pt] but instead judge correctly[/size].”


can you see that jesus is not a confused boy like you, he will not say 'thou shall not judge at all, only to turn around and say 'judge again'

[size=14pt]but rather, if you must judge, then 'judge correctly' which i did![/size]

and for pope francis, he is a COWARD, he got skeleton in his cupboard! what he fears to do, other bold christians are doing it

you are big mumu o, so u dnt understand English. Pls read verses 1&2 again.

Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2[b] For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and [a]by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

It is clear,note( ''Do not judge'') meaning,in fact answer dat ursef.

N
2,for d way u judge u will b judged and by ur standard of measure it will b meassured to u.

Note, d bible never said if u must judge.
Nw let me enlighten u,
the way u judge sinner A for a particular sin like homosexual,is d same way u will be judged for ur own sin let say ur sin is either fornication, stealing, lying, disobedient etc. So dnt judge for u might judge harshly, for u might b judged harshly too for a sin u might term small,let say lyin for example. Pls stop all those blablabla and let God judge cos he knws us more dan we knw ourselives.so stop ranting thinking u knw d bible and what it teaches cos u are jst as confused as a mad dog.

And Note,d bible never said IF U MUST JUDGE, rather it says,DO NOT JUDGE. This is For ur own good.

BERNIMOORE: good boy! now verse 2 above told you what, that is if you must judge?

mathew 7:2 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"

now reconcile it again with what jesus mean below;



John 7
24[b] Stop judging by mere appearances,[size=14pt] but instead judge correctly[/size].”


can you see that jesus is not a confused boy like you, he will not say 'thou shall not judge at all, only to turn around and say 'judge again'

[size=14pt]but rather, if you must judge, then 'judge correctly' which i did![/size]

and for pope francis, he is a COWARD, he got skeleton in his cupboard! what he fears to do, other bold christians are doing it

you are big mumu o, so u dnt understand English. Pls read verses 1&2 again.

Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2[b] For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and [a]by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

It is clear,note( ''Do not judge'') meaning,in fact answer dat ursef.

N
2,for d way u judge u will b judged and by ur standard of measure it will b meassured to u.

Note, d bible never said if u must judge.
Nw let me enlighten u,
the way u judge sinner A for a particular sin like homosexual,is d same way u will be judged for ur own sin let say ur sin is either fornication, stealing, lying, disobedient etc. So dnt judge for u might judge harshly u might also b judged harshly for a sin u might term small,let say lyin for example. Pls stop all those blablabla and let God judge cos he knws us more dan we knw ourselives.so stop ranting thinking u knw d bible and what it teaches cos u are jst as confused as a mad dog.

And Note,d bible never said IF U MUST JUDGE, rather it says,DO NOT JUDGE. This is For ur own good.

BERNIMOORE: your tune have changed suddenly!

before you were singing 'thou shall not judge at all' but having showed you verses that we can judge above, you tuned to 'judging correctly' you are learning,isn'nt it?

pls am tired with ur high level of illiteracy which affect ur level of understanding. Pls go read Matthew 7:1-5 And help ursef.

Matthew 7

New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Judging Others

7 “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and [a]by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how [b]can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

Nw can u fathom d wisdom of the Pope. Pls watch what u say so u won't bring condemnation upon ursef. May God help us.

BERNIMOORE: your tune have changed suddenly!

before you were singing 'thou shall not judge at all' but having showed you verses that we can judge above, you tuned to 'judging correctly' you are learning,isn'nt it?

u are so dull, my point is, u are nt even better dan those homo, cos u are a sinner and so they are. So tell me what or who gave u d right to judge when u are as guilty as them. U see why i keep sayin ur MUMUNITY is HIGH. Instead of u to pray for them and ursef u are there judging,rubbish. Remember what Christ said, He without sin should cast d first stone. Pls can u kindly interpret dat statement.

BERNIMOORE: your problem is illiteracy as i have noted, you fight the truth but we have to say it, did you read this in my post yet you ignore;

,

if saying the truth means condemn in your own language LET IT BE,

but as to the issue of judge not, here is what jesus said

i have judge correctly by saying above that 'if a gay stops practicing'

im still in line brother, read;

John 7
24 Stop judging by mere appearances, [size=18pt]but instead judge correctly[/size].”


truth can be very painfull

see u are d one diaplayin a high level of illiteracy here. Tel me have u judged ursef correctly. Mumu, have u tell ursef d truth about d way u live ur life.

BERNIMOORE: nnatom

Do you know that you are even in a danger of Gods wrath for suporting the homosexuals?

read below; no talk say you no see am o, but na you no gree! (romans 1:32 below)

but lets treat this truth


[size=14pt]now comes where the truth is beign DRIBBLED LIKE FOOTBALL,

ME I WILL HAMMER THE TRUTH[/size],

it has been often said by some shameless so called christians homo apologists that 'hate the act and not the person'

I want to state clearly that UNLESS A PERSON WHO IS A GAY STOPS PRACTICING THE BAD ACT, he is only awaiting Gods wrath, [size=14pt]again, you cannot be practicing a homosexual continously and SAYS THAT YOU ARE SEEKING GODS FAVOR,
[/size]
i state Categorically here without any form of regret whatsoever that IT IS A LIE, you have to exercise your faith WITH WORKS.

[size=14pt]Again if we are to 'hate the act and not the person' then bible is a liar! [/size] but[size=14pt] not only those who practice the homosexual, but those who approve those people are in great danger of Gods wrath[/size], lets read it together, i believe that some will not cut this page out after reading!

Romans 1:27-32


27 Likewise also the [size=18pt]men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.[/size]

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness,[size=18pt] sexual immorality[/size], wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[b] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, [size=28pt]that those who practice such things are deserving of death[/size],[size=28pt] not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.[/size][size=28pt]gbam!!!
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u quoted Romans 1:27-32, pls NOTE verses 29-32 and answer my question below.

29 being filled with all unrighteousness, intimate immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[b] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Tell me u are nt guilty of one of those sins listed above. Have u been condemned? no,so pls stop displaying ur Ignorance and Mumulity by judging ursef. U better struggle for ur own salvation, cos a homosexual u knw might repent b4 he dies and God may have mercy on him and he enter God's kingdom while u might be so unfortunate at ur last day u will do evil,u go jst see ursef for Big Fire.

So dnt judge, instead show sinners d way to Christ and also pray for them.

BERNIMOORE: nnatom

Do you know that you are even in a danger of Gods wrath for suporting the homosexuals?

read below; no talk say you no see am o, but na you no gree! (romans 1:32 below)

but lets treat this truth


[size=14pt]now comes where the truth is beign DRIBBLED LIKE FOOTBALL,

ME I WILL HAMMER THE TRUTH[/size],

it has been often said by some shameless so called christians homo apologists that 'hate the act and not the person'

I want to state clearly that UNLESS A PERSON WHO IS A GAY STOPS PRACTICING THE BAD ACT, he is only awaiting Gods wrath, [size=14pt]again, you cannot be practicing a homosexual continously and SAYS THAT YOU ARE SEEKING GODS FAVOR,
[/size]
i state Categorically here without any form of regret whatsoever that IT IS A LIE, you have to exercise your faith WITH WORKS.

[size=14pt]Again if we are to 'hate the act and not the person' then bible is a liar! [/size] but[size=14pt] not only those who practice the homosexual, but those who approve those people are in great danger of Gods wrath[/size], lets read it together, i believe that some will not cut this page out after reading!

Romans 1:27-32


27 Likewise also the [size=18pt]men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.[/size]

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness,[size=18pt] sexual immorality[/size], wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[b] unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, [size=28pt]that those who practice such things are deserving of death[/size],[size=28pt] not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.[/size][size=28pt]gbam!!!
[/size]

Mumu,big one. So nw i support homosexual,u see why i said u are a Big Confused Ignorant guy.can u shw me in any of my post where i support homo.nw u are judging me jst like dat,guy u c say u b pikin.

Mc Mastiff: Just yesterday,i came across a portion in the bible that proved that jesus christ had 2carz. The 1st bible portion sayz that John the Baptist was his FORE-RUNNER! Maybe John was a TOYOTA FORE-RUNNER!! The 2nd bible portion that proved that jesus had a car sayz,"....and he went down wit his disciples in one ACCORD!! Pls who knows of a car called HONDA ACCORD??

guy u too much i feel u,infact Ur head dey there.

BERNIMOORE: empty rage

who is stopping you from displaying a superior knowledge? you cannot even quote a bible verse, you fight the truth in the bible, then why carrying the bible?

hear what jesus told pharisees who are just like your confused pope francis;
mathew 15:3

3 Jesus replied, [size=18pt]“And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?[/size] 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’[a] and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[b] 5 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6 they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. [size=18pt]Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. [/size]

what is dat u post up dere,dis is d greatest height of ignorance and confusion. I see u have nothing in ya brain,sorry o.

BERNIMOORE: kindly show where i have misquoted the bible, it was written in english that you understand not latin,

you hate the truth but read again

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
New King James Version (NKJV)

9 [size=18pt]Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God[/size]? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,[size=18pt] nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,[/size] 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners [size=18pt]will inherit the kingdom of God".
[/size]
or this again by the same apostle paul:

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing to you that [size=18pt]you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral[/size] or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. [size=18pt]Do not even eat with such people.
[/size]
can you see that?





no, you jumped my post on that on page 7, here is it, sorry you are annoyed, scroll back pls



which judgement are you talking about, you are just reciting concortions that you swallowed from your priests, intead of facing the truth

i rely on this bible verse and stand to rebuke those attrocities with clean conscience, so save me you 'dont judge noise'

read
titus 1:7-13

7 [size=18pt]For a bishop must be blameless, as a steward of God,[/size] not self-willed, not quick-tempered, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, 8 but hospitable, a lover of what is good, sober-minded, just, holy, self-controlled, 9 holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.



10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, 11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 [size=18pt]This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,[/size]

i see u are following d literal meaning of d words in d bible. The message in d bible is nt one of ur english comprehension. When a person slaps u at ur right cheek do u turn d left for him to do d same.
Note dis saying, he without sin let him cast d first stone.
So condemn d act nt d person, rather show him d light cos if God is to condemn us by all we do, who do think will survive a day? No body, even our so called pastors will nt.
Pls stop displayin ur shallow knowledge of d bible.
And i say to u again, dnt judge so u won't b judged. Put dat into ur thick skull.

BERNIMOORE: it would have been superflous for paul to now judge the homosexual AS NOT GOING TO INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD' if he had earlier denied judging them!

read it pls;



1 Corinthians 6:9-10
New King James Version (NKJV)

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,[size=18pt] nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites,[/size] 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God".

or this again by the same apostle paul:

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing to you [size=18pt]that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy,[/size] an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.[size=18pt] Do not even eat with such people[/size].

can you see that?

sorry to say my brother, u are retarded. Stop mis quoting d bible pls so u wnt bring judgement upon ursef. U have committed more dan one of those sins listed there, has any one judged u. Are u telling me that, if a homo repent,he will still b condemned. U pple should watch wat u say,so u won't bring judgement upon ursef

Syncan: Isnt it time you now answer my question? Why do you take the bible as your authentic Gods word alone. Why not the Jewish Tanakh or the quran?

and he should show us where it was written in d bible.

talk2chichi: am sorry to say, I don't know why you pentecostals don't know how to interpret the Holy Bible.

Permit me to answer your questions.

1. No; a married man can't become a priest, because it is not part of our doctrine.
2. No; a catholic priest who decides to get married while he is still a priest, can't be allowed to remain a priest because he has broken the law.

Reasons, please read with me for more explanations (Good News Bible);
1st corinthians 7:24-25,27-28,32-38.

24. My brothers each one should remain in fellowship with God in the same condition as he was when he was called.

25. Concerning the present distressn I think it is better for a man to stay as he is.

27. Have you got a wife? Then dontry get rid of her. Are you unmarried? Then don't look for a wife.

28. But if you do marry, you haven't committed a sin; and if an unmarried woman marries, she hasn't committed a sin. But I would rather spare you the everyday troubles that married people will have.

32. I would like you to be free from worry. An unmarried man concerns himself with the Lord's work, because he is trying to please the Lord.

33. But a married man concerns himself with worldly matters, because he wants to please his wife.

34. And so he is pulled in two directions. An unmarried woman or a virgin concerns herself with the Lors's work, because she wants to be dedicated both in body and spirit; but a married woman concerns herself with worldly matters, because she wants to please her husband.

35. I am saying this because I want to help you. I am not trying to put restrictions on you. Instead, I want you to do what is right and proper, and to give yourselves completely to the Lord'd service without any reservation.

36. In the case of an engaged couple who have decided not to marry: if the man feels that he is not acting properly towards the girl and if his passions are too strong and he feels that they ought to marry, then they should get married, as he wants to. There is no sin in this.

37. But if a man, without being forced to do so, has firmly made up his mind not to marry, and if he has his will under complete control and has already decided in his own mind what to do-then he does well not to marry the girl.

38. So the man who marries does well, but the one who doesn't marry does even better.


Does that scripture not speak of free will to Marry or not?

Yes the Bible did, but the same bible tells us that the man who doesn't marry does even better than the man that marry. It all about choice as it as been well explained in the Holy Bible.

So, when you read through you will know why catholic priest does not marry or married man are not allowed to become a priest, they are to give their selves completely to the Lord's service that is the catholic doctrine.

I know I have answered your questions. Thanks

my dear chichi, i hav come to realise dat dis guys are clueless and ignorant. Teach them from nw till tomorrow, nothing. Pls let them wallow in their ignorance.

Boomark: make una see chichi o! You are just good at telling people "i pity you, i pray for you, go and read your bible" but you actually have nothing to offer in the sense that you don't want to believe the truth and cannot offer it.

Nnatom bolted away because of my questions. Can you help him since they are teaching you the right thing?

see my brother,i knw when one is nt ready to learn but to ridicule. So we both knw u are nt ready to learn, so i own u no answer. So guy, like d wise sayin, a word is enough for d wise. So keep wallowing in ur ignorance while i count my blessings. Takecare and also extend my greetings to that foreverguy dat he kept Falling my hand with dat act of copy and paste thing and also his wrong interpretation of d bible. May God help u both and i wish u well in all ur life endeavors.
GLORY TO JESUS AND HONOUR TO MARY.

4everGod: These catholic apologists are unbelievable! They would clutch at straws just to ensure they have even a feeble reason why they should still hold on to their beliefs. Pathetic!

u are funny. Do u knw d gravity d word rebuke. Na wa o, image ur brother tellin u this, i rebuke u. Hw will u feel. See from nw till thy kingdom come,i will stand by my word, christ never rebuke mary. Stop this ur false analogy, it wil lead u no where.

Sorry, if i may ask is there any problem honouring mary,the one dat is highly blessed and favoured by God. The one who said henceforth all generation shall call me blessed. My guy u are ranting for no good reason selfish misunderstood tot of d scripture.

I tell u solemnly, christ i knw neva rebuked mary and He will neva do such cos dat is nt his teaching.peace b with u.

4everGod: [b]I did say that this was beyond you and yours. I studied urban and regional planning and then further majored in Linguistics which makes me an authority in subtle subjugation which you would have no clue about. If you cannot see that he rebuked her via correction and knowledge by letting her know that His fathers house is where he ought to be as against her comment that herself and Joseph (whom she called Jesus Father) were looking for Him. Note Jesus answered her by saying "did you not know that I would be in my fathers House" He put joseph in his place of caretaker and ward immediately, letting Him Know that He was of a different father.

His statement alone confused them because the same scripture said they did not understand what He was saying. What Christ meant in his tone was this, stop claiming ownership over me, I have a different origin. He confirmed this before everyone in the temple when He read from Luke 4:18 what was written about him in Isaiah 61:1.[/b]

What Christ meant in his tone was this, stop claiming ownership over me, I have a different origin.

for ur mind nw, u dey christ tot abi. This is y i keep saying u are clueless. U are interpreting d scriptures to suit ur argument,wrong.

Get this into ur thick head. Jesus neva rebuked His mother,rather he is passing a massage to us. Same thing happened when they told him his mother and brother are lookin for him and he replied, Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.” (Mark 3:35). Nw base on what ur brain is giving u are u sayin dat Mary doesn't do God's will. U see ur shallow tot. He is only passing a massage to us,that we shld kp God's commandment. He never rebuke them ok.

4everGod: This is your own definition of rebuke abi?

re·buke - /riˈbyo͞ok/
Verb:
1. Express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behavior or actions
Noun:
1. An expression of sharp disapproval or criticism


Luke 2:48-50

Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

The bolded part of the scripture is what is called sharp disapproval or criticism for a rather strange behavior. Let me break it down to you. What Jesus said to Mary using our modern day language is this "Why were you looking for me? Are you not supposed to know that I would be in my Fathers House? So why look for me?"

Now if that isnt rebuke I wonder what is. A rebuke isnt an insult but a sharp disapproval of something or someone. Go read up

and after saying it He followed dem. And is dat rebuking.
U are d type dat wil say, i rebuke u satan and u go still follow am

4everGod: This is your own definition of rebuke abi?

re·buke - /riˈbyo͞ok/
Verb:
1. Express sharp disapproval or criticism of (someone) because of their behavior or actions
Noun:
1. An expression of sharp disapproval or criticism


Luke 2:48-50

Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

The bolded part of the scripture is what is called sharp disapproval or criticism for a rather strange behavior. Let me break it down to you. What Jesus said to Mary using our modern day language is this "Why were you looking for me? Are you not supposed to know that I would be in my Fathers House? So why look for me?"

Now if that isnt rebuke I wonder what is. A rebuke isnt an insult but a sharp disapproval of something or someone. Go read up

What Jesus said to Mary using our modern day language is this "Why were you looking for me? Are you not supposed to know that I would be in my Fathers House? So why look for me?

Bros did rebuked fit this statement. Bros u b olodo o.did He say u are nt my mother, go away.simple english my brother, use ur head na, dis is why i say u are clueless.

4everGod: [b]Do you even know when Jesus first rebuked Mary? Do you think it was at the wedding feast? Let me show you.

While still a boy, at the age of twelve, the following dialogue occurred between Jesus and Mary:

When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you.” “Why were you searching for me?” he asked. “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?” But they did not understand what he was saying to them. (Luke 2:48-50)

NOTE: Jesus gave many rebukes in his lifetime. The Pharisees, Peter, the disciples in general, etc., were frequently rebuked, but it was Mary who heard his first recorded rebuke. Again, Jesus said to Mary to correct her of her error, “Didn’t you know I had to be in my Father’s house?”

Catholic friend, do you see any favored treatment in that response to Mary? Does that justify veneration or praise to her for being Jesus’ mother, as is the typical practice in Catholicism? While Jesus still honored his mother, according to Exodus 20:12, he always exalted God, His truth and His will first at all times, especially when Mary would stand in the way of God’s will.
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how did jesus rebuked mary in d wedding in cana. He said it is nt His time,still He acknowledge d request of His mother.remember dat was His first miracle. Brother pls read ur post. Guy u are clueless.

My brother get dis into ur head, we are nt worshiping her, pls stop dis ur ranting and ur act of copy and paste without even digesting what u copy b4 u paste.

Boomark: try this

She was the first to be rebuked/corrected by the 12 year old. Follow Christ in spirit not molded images.

He never rebuked her,pls understand d way u use d word rebuke. If He rebuked her He wouldn't have changed dat water to wine when she asked Him to, mind u He did it even when He said it is nt yet time.

Mind ur words brother, b4 it hunt u.