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Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 5:51pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: now how dis one take answer his post. bros sorry o,something is common in u. |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 5:48pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: pls show us where it is stated in d bible dat Adam and eve were created in sin. pls use ur common sense and stop quoting the bible falsely. |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 5:42pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: how did u know dat Mary's egg was not involved. and also show me where it's writing in d bible. |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 5:40pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: pls interpret it and tell us how he is wrong. |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 5:38pm On Oct 10, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: what's ur point here. bros if u lack knowledge calm down and do a constructive reasoning before saying things ok. understanding the bible is not like maths and english o. |
Romance / Re: Why Is There No "Single Yoruba Ladies" In Igbo Land? by nnatom: 2:49pm On Oct 07, 2014 |
ChristyG: ok we hear,but it is better than free givers. ibo girls,u gats pay be4 u shine the Congo but Yoruba na free shinning of Congo. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:26pm On Sep 05, 2014 |
Dux01: these are spiritual matters.there was nothing spectacular about mary's life after Jesus.it was just like any other woman you don't knw what u are saying. can u proof it. |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 10:29pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: that was what man researched.does God know immaculate conception? very soon u we ask weather God know about DNA since it is man that researched it 9 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:23pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: any person born of a union between a man and a woman has commited sin. have u heard of immaculate conception. pls make ur findings. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:18pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: are u saying it is nt possible? is it possible to you 1 Like |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:14pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: jesus was sinless because his conception wasn't through sexual intercourse. d bible said all have sinned including mary hence need a saviour. so are u saying a sinner carried Christ for nine month in an unclean body. use ur head bro. 12 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:11pm On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: so she did not commit sin AT ALL After she gave birth can u proof dat she committed sin after she gave birth. can u. if u can't stop arguing blindly ok. 16 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 9:07am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Dux01: pls i want you to answer this question.don't get angry.was mary a sinner like us that needed to be forgiven or she was sinless like Jesus. is it possible for a dirty tank to hold a clean water and you still fetch the water out of in a clean state. I think this will I answer that question. 45 Likes 3 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 8:21am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Weah96: ohh, now I know u are high of something 12 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 2:08am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: u dat bow down and prostrate for ur Oba means u worship them abi. bros u funny o. 64 Likes 3 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:58am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: it's to show u how shameful it is for u a christain, calling her a sinner. shame on you 54 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:48am On Sep 04, 2014 |
Weah96: The OT, which coincides with the Jewish Torah, says absolutely nothing about any virgin giving birth to their messiah. Show me a verse in Jewish scriptures, or the old testament, where Yahweh promised to send himself as messiah. Or where the messiah would be born of a virgin. Note, the bible is not a story book. and messages are not passed like your reader Edet lives in calabar. King David is the man after God's heart and God made a promise to him. CHRONICLE 17:11-14 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. and this God fulfilled by sending Jesus whoes lineage could be traced back to David through Mary. for more information go to this thread www.nairaland.com/1581928/lineage-jesus-mary-not-joseph 13 Likes |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 1:27am On Sep 04, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: "My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour, for He has been mindful of the humble state of His servant. From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me — holy is His name" (Luke 1:46-49). it is so shameful of u still saying Catholics worship her after u have been told several time that Catholics don't worship her, sorry o is ur IQ dis low. so if u are being told that God will allow his son to have the flesh and blood of a sinner u will agree. see where lack of knowledge is dragging u into. even Muslims knows that Mary was born without the touch of satan. shame on u. Mention in Islamic scripture The birth of Mary is narrated in the Quran with references to her father, after whom the chapter is named ('The Family of Imran') as well as her mother. The wife of Imran prayed to God to fulfil her desire [8] and vowed, if her prayer was accepted, that her child would be dedicated to the service of God. She prayed for her child to remain protected from Satan ( Shayṭān) and Muslim tradition records a hadith , which states that the only children born without the "touch of Satan," were Mary and Jesus. 67 Likes 6 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 11:10pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
jansie: ^^^ funny one though. we honour her by loving and accepting her as the mother of our lord Jesus Christ and not as a mere vessel like many protestant will say. for more read this. Why do Catholics Honor & Love Mary ? A1. She brought the Savior into the World. Mary said Yes! In Luke 1:26-35 The Angel Gabriel appeared to the young Mary and said that she would conceive a child and he will be called “The Son of the Most High.” Now Mary has free will, like all of us, she could have said no. She could have said find someone else, but what did she say? In Luke 1:38 Mary answered “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” By her consent, by her free will Mary united her will to the will of the Father and brought the salvation of the human race into the world in the person of Jesus Christ. Think about it, without Jesus Christ there would be no salvation for mankind. Mary carried the God-Man, the creator of time and space himself in her womb. She agreed to provide him with flesh and blood, carried him for 9 months and nurtured him throughout his life. A2. “Hail, full of Grace, the Lord is with you!” When the Angel Gabriel came to Mary she was greeted with a royal greeting. Luke 1:28 recounts Gabriel greeting Mary by proclaiming “Hail, full of Grace, the Lord is with you!” The Greek word for Hail that is used here is a word that is used to address royalty. Think of it, an Angel, a being far superior to a human, greeting a young girl with such respect and awe; in other cases when an angel approaches a human this is not the case. This would imply that Mary is no normal human being; God created her and prepared her to carry his son, to be a living tabernacle of the Lord. “Full of Grace”, this is said by Gabriel to Mary in Luke 1:38 before she even said yes to be the Mother of God. This would imply that she was full of Grace (God’s own life and love) even before she had Jesus in her womb. Like the pure and untouchable Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament that held symbols of God, Mary was made pure and full of grace in order to hold the Word of God made flesh, Jesus Christ Mary was even given the grace she needed for the encounter with the Angel Gabriel. In Revelation 19 and 22 when an Angel appears to John, he is confused and mistakes him for God and begins to worship him. When Gabriel appears to Mary in Luke 1 something very different happens. Mary has the grace to recognize that this Angel isn’t God and Gabriel acknowledges that Mary isn’t just some ordinary girl but a girl that has been prepared by God from her conception to be the Mother of the God-Man, Jesus Christ. A3. “Blessed among women” After the Angel Gabriel left Mary she went to see her cousin Elizabeth who in her old age was pregnant with John the Baptist. In Luke 1:41 after Mary greeted Elizabeth, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and John the Baptist leaped in her womb in joy at the sound of Mary’s voice. The Holy Spirit talking through Elizabeth said to Mary “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb!” Wow, the third person of the blessed Trinity inspired Elizabeth to deem Mary blessed amongst all women; Mary isn’t just some ordinary woman. These words of the Holy Spirit talking through Elizabeth make up the middle of the Hail Mary “blessed are you amongst women and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus” A4. She is the Mother of the Lord Jesus wasn’t created, as the Nicene Creed proclaims “He was begotten, not made, one in being with the Father, through him all things were made.” So how is Mary, a creation of God, the mother of God? This answer is intertwined with the mystery of the Trinity and the Incarnation. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are of the same substance but are unique. The 2nd person of the trinity, Jesus Christ, entered time and space and took on Mary’s flesh in the incarnation; when this happened Mary became the mother of Jesus. Since Mary is the mother of Jesus that makes her the mother of God. Mary is not the mother of the trinity, she did not exist before the trinity; she is the mother of the 2nd person of the trinity in the flesh, Jesus Christ. Many protestant Christians today say that Mary was not the mother of God but just the mother of Jesus. If Mary is not the mother of God but just the mother of Jesus then this assumes that Jesus is not God. This ideology reapeats a 1600 year old heresy that was disputed and resolved at the Council of Ephesus in 431AD. The heretic Nestorius claimed that Jesus Christ wasn’t divine and that Mary should be called the Christotokos (Christ bearer) instead of the Theotokos (God-bearer) since Jesus isn’t God. The Church at this council reaffirmed that Jesus is divine and since he is divine that makes Mary the Mother of God so rightfully so she was to be called the Theotokos, God- bearer. A5. My soul magnifies the Lord, my spirit rejoices in God my Savior” After Elizabeth declares that Mary is blessed amongst women, Mary sings what is known as the Canticle of Mary (Luke 1:46-55). In verse 46 Mary sings that her soul magnifies the Lord. Think about that. The beauty and purity of Mary’s soul magnifies or intensifies the presence of the Lord. It has been said that Jesus is like the sun; the source of light and Mary is like the moon, reflecting that light of God. Mary is not just a vessel that held Christ, Mary’s body and soul was created particularly by God to be a living tabernacle of the Word of God, Jesus Christ. To say that Mary was just a mere vessel is undermining that majesty of God by undermining the greatness of his creation. Mary then says in verse 47 that her “spirit rejoices in God my savior” Mary is rejoicing in God because he has created her and destined her to the Mother of his Son. God has granted Mary particular graces that no other human has….the graces needed to be the Mother of God. The Catholic’s honor and love for Mary reflects the deep love of God who made her who she is. A6. The Blessed Mother In Luke 1:48 Mary proclaims that “All generations will call me blessed..” God created Mary as such a pure, graced filled creation that from then on until all eternity she will be called blessed. This is where Catholics get the title of “The Blessed Mother”; it’s straight out of the Bible. A7. She is the Mother of Humanity Mary was chosen to be the mother of Jesus but she is also our Mother. In John 19:26-27 when Jesus is on the Cross he looks at his mother and says “Woman, behold your son!” and then he looks at John and says “Behold, your mother!” Since early in the history of the Church this has been interpreted as Jesus extending Mary’s motherhood to all of humanity. This can be better understood in relation to the Father and the Son. God the Father has one son, Jesus Christ, but by extension of our baptism Jesus’ son ship is extended to all Christians so we truly become sons and daughters of God. In a similar yet different situation by Jesus’ words on the cross Mary’s Motherhood is extended to all of us. Although Mary is human and the Father is divine we have a mother in heaven who loves and prays for us. A8. She suffered with Christ Mary suffered with Jesus as only a mother could when seeing her child being mocked, humiliated, beaten and put to death in the most demeaning form of the day. Mary’s suffering was foreshadowed by Simeon when he said to her after she presented the baby Jesus in the temple “Behold, this child is destined for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be contradicted (and you yourself a sword will pierce) so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.” (Luke 1:34-35). Mary is considered a co-redeemer with Christ due to the most personal role she played in salvation history by saying yes to taking on the role of the Mother of God and accepting all the joy and suffering which came with that. In fact every baptized Christian is called to offer up their suffering with that of Christ for the salvation of souls. Paul supports this in Colossians 1:24 where he writes “Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church.” Since we are members of the Body of Christ we share in the life and mission of Christ. Mary has a particularly important share in this due to her unique and intimate role as the Mother of God. blessedjp2.com/totus-tuus/why-do-catholics-honor-love-mary/ 157 Likes 11 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 9:24pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: this is too lame, my bro u still have not made any clear point. well u have made up ur mind not to honour her,my bro it's ur headache o, but for me I will honour her and be glad like Elizabeth that said in Luke 1:39-45 New International Version (NIV) Mary Visits Elizabeth At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!” Note this Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? and I say why am I so favored to love and cherish the mother of my lord. oh thank you JESUS. 116 Likes 5 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 8:48pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: u have made no point, the Op talks about mediate which I have shown u the meaning. this where Mary interceded in the bible, john 2:1-8 and this is also known as the first miracle of Christ. On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.” “Woman, why do you involve me?” Jesus replied. “My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever he tells you.” Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons. Jesus said to the servants, “Fill the jars with water”; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, “Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet.” I repeat Mary do not mediate she intercede pls don't miss the words. that part of Luke u quoted she also said " Henceforth, all generations shall call me blessed. 90 Likes 4 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Does The Bible Say About The Virgin Mary?" by nnatom: 7:48pm On Sep 03, 2014 |
OLAADEGBU: I know you have a problem understanding English language. catholic says Mary intercede for them and u are missing it up with mediator. yes Christ is the only mediator between God and man. but Mary intercede,i.e plead on our behalf. dictionary meaning of mediator and intercede To intercede is to go or come between two parties, to plead before one of them on behalf of the other. "Mediation" means a standing in the midst between two (contending) parties, for the purpose of bringing them together. 105 Likes 5 Shares |
Religion / Re: "What Was Early Christianity Like?" by nnatom: 11:02am On Sep 03, 2014 |
honeric01: pls, do you really know d difference between honour and worship. and if I may ask u, wht will u call the act of yorubas bowing down and lying flat on d floor for their Oba. please get it right. catholics says they honour her not worship. what is your problem with that? if u are having headache and u tell me u are having headache and me start telling u dat wht u are suffering for is not headache is stomach ache. how does it sound. once again catholics honour her not worship. get dat into ur thick head and stop dis argument u protestant are always bringing up. u don't want to accept what they say and u want them to accept urs is that not Stupi dity. pls rest ur case and lets talk about d future of our country Nigeria jare. |
Religion / Re: "What Was Early Christianity Like?" by nnatom: 6:35am On Sep 03, 2014 |
honeric01: make use of the holy spirit, ask and also read wide, not just within your catholic box, read outside your catholic box, you just might find out the deeper truth. the deeper truth dat Mary should not be hornored or that Catholics don't worship christ. my brother what's ur point. |
Religion / Re: "What Was Early Christianity Like?" by nnatom: 12:14am On Sep 03, 2014 |
JMAN05: my brother after all your ranting,u still have not made any point out of it. pls communicate. |
Religion / Re: "What Was Early Christianity Like?" by nnatom: 9:21pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
honeric01: what do u want RCC to do? or u want them to stop honouring Mary or wht. pls tell us wht u are trying tp point out here |
Religion / Re: The Discrepancies In Christianity by nnatom: 8:51pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
ProphetUdeme: hello lady.. I cant doubt my religion.. I am not even in the christian religion but rather i am born again in Christ.. Christ the Lord is real and He has revealed Himself to me.. I dont doubt but rather it pains me when there are divisions in the very body of Christ.. Sha u wont understand until u get converted forst... Accept Jesus and u will be at peace my dear sister you are a false prophet. I hate this ur statement it so annoying, " I am not even in the christian religion but rather i am born again in Christ.. Christ the Lord is real and He has revealed Himself to me." what is the meaning of Christianity,where did the word christain emante from. this show how shallow and myopic ur reasoning is. the last time I checked "Christianity is the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus Christ, or its beliefs and practices." so because there is dis-unity among Christians u made such statement.shame on u and any body that reasons the way u do. |
Religion / Re: “it Is Likely I Quit Like Benedict Or Die By 2017″ – Pope Francis by nnatom: 6:36pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
Austindark: in Gordon's voice well am not surprised. your name shows u are from d dark side. |
Religion / Re: “it Is Likely I Quit Like Benedict Or Die By 2017″ – Pope Francis by nnatom: 6:35pm On Aug 26, 2014 |
Austindark: Pope Francis has suggested that he might one bros why u dey lie na, e no fit you. |
Religion / Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by nnatom: 11:50am On Aug 24, 2014 |
chinex276: my brother u are not knowledgeble.the reading in the bulletin is it not from the bible and why is the bulletin used in the Sunday mass if truely u are an ex-catholic. did Jesus says u shouldn't honour Mary. every of your post shows u dnt know anything in the bible u are among the them say them say. chao 4 Likes |
Religion / Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by nnatom: 11:18am On Aug 24, 2014 |
chinex276: so bowing means worship now. so Pple who bow to their fellow man worship them. see my brother you might be an ex-catholic and a block rosarian does not mean you understand it's teaches u know. no be every body we go school come back with knowledge u know. same might have happened to you. look at you, now u are angry because he called your mother into this wht more of Christ. any way this is not wht this thread is meant for. 7 Likes |
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