drnoel:

sorry but u can't base ur arguement on the mistakes of a House Officer (HO). I was one of those HOs who agreed very early in housejob that I didn't know anything and begged the nurses to teach me and they did. Though it took me about 3 months b4 I realized and many mistake along the line with the nurse laughing at me smirking all along the way. Anyway, after I learnt I gained my respect back cos the matrons always came to get me from my other posting to teach new HOs they wanted to help but where finding it difficult.

Med schools in Nigeria should inculcate that in the trainings.

I had learnt to set IV lines and to give IM/Iv injections plus to take vitals since my first yr of medical school. Doctors shouldnt be left at d mercy of nurses after med school. That wouldn't aid d boss status they should naturally take when they start to work.

During my encounter wv d nija doctors I met, I was surprised that they dont have models for learning even at UI which is d premier and supposed to be d best.

A lot of other things like communication skills and how to deal with difficult co workers and patients should be taught.

I have enough swags and confidence(not arrogance) and I am not even a graduate yet, thanks to quality education. I have always wondered what practicing in Nigeria would be like.

Scopes on dealing wv em rude nurses?

Wow wow wow!

That is laudable. More grease to ur elbow man. God's blessings upon you in shaa Allah.

This man is a disappointment o! He even lied about electricity supply.


And what is it about blaming other people for your woes. He said the oil is being. ..in other countries? What a response

Prettychyna: @ Nuoriah, So you still believe in this your know it all philosophy? SMH4U!talking about incompetence,what do you have to say about a doctor that prescribed IV chloroquine for a patient?or one that prescribed ampiclox 4g qds for a minor infection? Or a HO that said you use izal to treat diabetic foot?what do you have to say about the bunch of incompetent doctors killing patients because they don't want to believe that they don't know it all or don't wanna listen? ,if not for the protocol and law guiding the health care,you will bear with me that most of the nurses and doctors work will overlap.As if we didn't enter the same class with med students for anat,physio,biochem,pharmac. ,we monitor the patient and that is what we write in our nursing process and you work based on the information we give you,well unless you also don't listen to the nurses which is quite unfortunate. My dear,we are also there to catch your mistakes which a good doctor always appreciates The nurse also prevents the incompetent doctors from accidentally killing patients that is why we spend 5years in the university to learn all we know unlike you that spend just 6years learning the work of a doctor,nurse,lab scientist,pharmacist,radiographer,physiotherapist,nutritionist and recently I heard you will start learning traditional medicine(you mentioned earlier you know all that)! So hilarious!!real jack of all trade master of none . If you are a doctor my dear ,stick to that and stop trying to outdo others in their field. As for passing the MBBS, I have seen what they do in school in the name of writing professional exam! Its so painful when our so called medical students sort their way through, this is an exam where the brilliant ones fail while the dunces with little cash cross over. Its only in 9ja that this argument happens

The relationship is symbiotic, fine.

But someone gets to take d lead.
Stop being ridiculous with that bs about doctors paying their way out.

How come you are d one aware of that? Is ur bf one of them?

StateOfMind:

That girl's post is a great insult to the nursing profession. what baffles me is that a good percentage of the mums of these medical students\doctors are nurses, yet they have no single respect for nurses. My mum is a nurse and I am VERY proud of her. I don't think any other profession would have suited her personality. She's so passionate about caring for people.

I don't know if arrogance and superiority are part of what is being thought to them in school because these traits are exhibited right from medical school. Most of them see other courses as inferior especially paramedics. Those ones have suffered ehn. Why won't they have inferiority complex, can't blame them.

Back then in school, I went to the hospital with 2 of my good friends, medical students..and as soon as they stepped into the hospital, their attitudes changed. They dint greet the nurses on seat, women old enough to be their mothers and just went to pick up a file (case note, I guess) in front of one of the nurses. The nurse then questioned them, calling them rude , bla bla. They initially ignored the woman,and went to their patient , did what they came to do and on their way out, they just said 'sorry ma' rudely and left.

If medical students can be that rude to old and experienced nurses in the presence of their patients, then what attitude does one expect from the patient or patient relatives to the nurses. Some patients and their relatives could be really frustrating. Been to my mum's hospital a couple of times and I just tell my mum 'thank God I dint study nursing'. I can't deal with all of these abeg. I'm not that patient and tolerant to BS. Nurses dey try oo.. But I agree some nurses are wicked and have little or no compassion. I ask my mum why they are In the nursing profession if they are not ready to care for people..

The other day my friend (med student) was gisting me about a clash with one of the nurses over cleaning up a patient and she was like "isn't that their job, to clean poo and urine" ..haba..nurses are not hospital maids or attendants, they went to school just like you, stop all these demeaning statements..

I have a lot of house officers and finalists as friends, my mum is a nurse and I work in a hospital environment so I know a lot about their attitudes.

Of course we still have a lot with good heads on their shoulders..those ones I admire and love to pieces. The doctors that attended to my sis during her surgery, I admire them and I call to greet them anywhere I come across them even if they don't see me.

I know they pass through a lot in medical school, being in nigeria, they spend more than necessary years in school, and I salute their perseverance and dedication, but they really need to calm down and not transfer their frustration to those who dint spend those years in school. Doctors cannot work alone, they need nurses and vice versa. They both need each other and should respect each other.

Very long though,I get your point.
While not trying to defend those med students,I see myself acting the same way if I have the assumption that I can get respected only by that means.

I said earlier that I was once at UCH. I hadnt even graduated med school and I ddnt study in Nigeria. The matron in d ward my family member was was very rude.

The first time she saw me she claimed I ddnt greet her when I cldnt even differentiate her from others. They all have all kinds of uniforms. I was there caring for a family member and she was demanding e kaaro from me? What part of her job entails that? To avoid trouble,I wld look for her and greet her whenevr I arrived(and that I wasnt in a good mood)

things Changed d day my aunts came into d ward and she insulted one of them. they shouted at her and made her realise I was a med student and that I was soon to be a doctor.

She changed towards me henceforth and I had a good interaction with d doctors and some other (few) nurses. So if it is d disreapect some people need to act right,you might just dish it to them.

ngozievergreen:
Which one is doctors do only brainwork? Is it not a doc dat does d surgery proper, wound debridement, major wound dressings, catheter mgt, monitoring of patients in emergencies, prep of px for surg aside bowel prep n shaving, casualty work, dialysis etc. Where do u want me to end?
D docs she saw goin by 12 are consultants. Bfr nko, or does she expect a consultant to stay behind n set d I.V lines. Aside d theatre matrons, wat work do dier matrons do oda dan checking nursing processes.
@ OP, u just spoilt ur nice write-up by including doctors in it(negatively). Houseofficers do much more work dan u.

Yh she spoilt it by including doctors.

Many nurses have bad attitudes. What we should have worked on is how to tackle that rather than trying to bring others into it

To be fore warned is to be fore harmed.


Respect to the Muslims mehn! They have their ways and d lot of spineless puhsies are all over the place whining.


Btw,my name is Nuorlah and I am not a terrorist. .if u know what I mean

In a hospital setting, while the others are dispensable, doctors are not.

Doctors take all d shifts in med school including phamarcology, radiology and pathology. A lab result,a doctor is expected to be able to interprete and d mechanism of each drug known and all of these people still want to claim boss.

Until the other professionals understand their positions and just take it,we will continue to have these problems.

A doctor knows the basics of what they all know whereas they can not claim the same.

The problem isnt with the doctors but d low self esteemed 'others'

fellis:

That is how a lot of doctors think, unfortunately. Those ones always act like they are superhuman and believe that every other profession is inferior to theirs. Most doctors are not even intelligent; they just crammed their way through university but yet they act so pompous and arrogant as if medical doctor is another word for god.
Imagine what that onyi wrote, that a nurse's work requires zero iq and a child can do it. I wonder what type of treatment she deals to nurses working with her if this is the mindset she has.
That being said, I am not a nurse. I am just repulsed by the arrogance majority of doctors display.

At Fellis, I really don't know how a doctor wouldn't feel like a super human. It takes a super to have graduated medical school. Jokes apart, doctors are very much more courteous than the Nigerian nurses we are talking about.

I had a very bad experience with them when a relative of mine was on admission at the UCH. It was bad enough that the incoming nursing students are already learning their ways and acting the same way. If nurses want to be respected,they need to earn it.

And about nurses trying to compare themselves with doctors,don't even start abi where were u when others were heading to med school.

The code of ethics is clear and you all should already know your place and simply stay there. We can decide not to say it as it is but the fact remains that the doctor gives d orders while the nurses take them. If you wouldn't take the orders, don't go to nursing school.simple!