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Pompoms:
Help , please.
I'm filling my visa form. Purpose of trip (specify), do I select B1/B2 OR. B2 ?
THANK YOU

Select b2 for birthing purpose. Make sure you have at hand doctor's correspondence and your budget sheet which should be way below your bank account balance.

Good luck

veegurl:
Mamas that are LA bound and interested in sharing accomodation, pls contact me

Am interested. When will you be in LA

mideyola:
hi everyone,

kindly assist with any affordable hospital in florida. it would be great if you know anyone in palm coast or close to palm coast.

thank you

I hope you know that hurican has presently been happening in Florida and that evacuation notice has been given to them by their governor. Will the VO or een CBP consider it a good choice of destination at this time. More,so, you need to keep safe. IMO though

Otokini01:
Good day all, my visa interview was today in abuja and it didnt go well as i was not given. The VO didnt exactly look at my documents well after even telling him i had paid for my doctors fee. He said the[b] money in my account wasnt sufficient with the budget[/b] i had and i had more than my supposed budget. I want to reapply again but i dont know what good that will do, please does anyone know how to get a new date for application as i need to travel in october. I have checked on their site to find the nearest date but i cant do i need to start a new application before i get a date? Please help thanks

Sorry for the refusal. Could he have meant that you cant spend all your savings just for birthing in the US. Maybe you need to really fund your account if you dont have other assets or fixed deposits to prove your bouyancy

Ramj:
@Nwebele I no be old timer ooo.
I am a FTD and i have made this thread a full time job because what you value you give attention to.

There is definitely no harm asking questions or seeking clarification even old timers do ask questions.

Just the way some people invade the thread with URGENT URGENT questions demanding EMERGENCY response without DOING ENOUGH to read old posts.

As the Yorubas say person wey ask road no dey miss road but.... When the signpost is infront of you its laziness asking someone to look for you

You are very much on point. Lets just endeavour to give as much as we can. Some people are not good at internet stuff. They just want someone tobdo the browsing and filling for them. It may or may not be their fault as we have levels of exposure. All the same. I admire your sharpness. Cheers

cutelass:
Hi Nwebele,

the documents sent by the dr office is all you need. After printing the hospital and dr.s fees, also print the email trail between you and the dr's office (hoping it is a bit elaborate). during my time, I was conscious of the fact I will later print the trail for visa interview so I kept it as professional as possible. I used subject 'self-pay international patient' proceeded to write: ' I am Dr. Mb----'s prospective patient, the lady you just spoke to...please forward...blah blah blah.
After she sent it, I also replied 'Thank you. Information for Centinela is not attached, please.... (aside wanting the info, I also needed the communication to elongate the trail. Always use the reply button so that you can print the email correspondence together.

In ur budget sheet, use the upper limits (prices for cs) as the bill (aside being the reasonable thing to do when drawing up a budget, it also gives you a higher figure for the medical bill and helps your planning in case you end up having a c-section). Draw up a budget sheet that is eye catchy and well arranged...do it in 2 segments (medical bills (dr, hosp, tests, pediatrican, etc) others (accomodation, flight, living expenses, baby documentation, miscellaneous etc) all should be on the same page. have a total for each of the segments and a grand total with the naira equivalent besides it. state your exchange rate. (banks are doing 360 to 1 dollar now). keep all the documents till you are asked for it (if you are even asked)

Finally pray...pray...pray ('they' will come for my head now and say you don't need prayer to get visa because they want to be perceived as 'westernized' and 'enlightened'). But what happens when you have crossed your t's and dotted your I's, and you appear b4 a VO who personally does not like this whole idea of birth tourism. (Of course there are people who dislike this whole idea, especially Nigerians in the US. Last yr when the Nigerian embassy in Washington came to LA to issue visas and take biometrics for those who want passports, i went to get my baby's visa. The man who sat besides me, could not understand why they are letting us do his. He said we are having the best of both worlds: raise the kids in Nigeria and they are grounded culturally and still have the choice of living in the US as citizens. Then another man who sat besides him told him that he had been informed by someone in Washington that it will be ended next yr (conversation took place last yr) whether Hillary or Trump wins. That piece of information seemed to give him some respite.

Wish you luck in your upcoming interview, keep the house posted.

Thank you so much cutelass. This means so much to me. Ofcourse I will pray pray pray. Hahahaha. And keep thanking God for Nairaland. With informations gotten here, one can never get it wrong. My confidence is boosted. God bless everyone that contributes here. I pray that I would also contribute in future for the benefit of others (the spirit of giving back). Dont know how else to show appreciation. Didnt know any of these before

Ramj:
It's been great fun and ssuch enlightening reading from near Genesis Part 1 Page 0 to this place…. Whooooo can't believe I covered this much. ( I actually got addicted I read anytime anywhere any place. I even open up to 10-15 pages on my phone browser so I just keep reading and reading and reading) In the car, walking, standing, in the toilet even in the other r*** I read anywhere I find free time and space.

To all FTMs FTDs and all new observers to this forum- having our babies in the USA does not happen overnight. It's A PROCESS, NOT AN EMERGENCY NEITHER IS YOUR INTERVIEW nor Other processes attached to this US Baby Journey. ( I know some people need urgent answer but please do it the right way)

BTW - I am a First Time Dad too doing this for my wife and unborn children.

Almost all you need for giving birth successfully in the US is Here: ALL YOU NEED TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY IS ONE OF THE PAGES ON THIS TOPIC FROM PART 1 to 5.

ALL IT WILL COST YOU IS READING INVESTMENT.

You never know what a simple search in that small tab above and beneath each page can do for you.

E.g Just try "Birth in Texas" for example and narrow it to Travel section and voila to get more than you need

Also put the names of some of the old timers in the same box and you will see their contributions.
Some of them comment in a whole lot of other topics but mhen it's not too much if you value what you can get from their past posts. ( I did for Nerf, modath, ladyGuinevere, dxbconnection, firsttymum and a few others).
Just look for someone that seems to mention a place or city or hospital that interest you. ( I have also contacted some of them and got valuable info Dupe007, mom2015, colouredgirl)

Some people might be interested in states that have been less frequented by mamas and papas here no doubt ( Oklahoma, Oregon, Wisconsin, the Dakotas etc). If you can read just some pages. You will know what to do and guess what YOU TOO can become the TRAILBLAZER for that particular state or city or hospital (Nerf and co did justice to Chicago some years back - God Bless you and others)

If you don’t get any valid Information and still don’t know what to do after all these steps just come out and I would buy you recharge card to call USA

But once again what would you wanna do with my little recharge card? Remember you are going to born your pikin in the US - so I am sure you get money pass that my lil recharge card hehehe

But honestly if you still can't get any info just contact @justwise and co

Once again Good Morning to all old and new mamas, papas and observer.

You have spoken well. However, people may sometimes have peculiar issues or may need clarification on discussions that were not elaborate and may have no option than to ask questions. I have followed this forum from part 1. I have also read posts by some very active old members. Infact I spend almost all days on NL. You will agree with me that some information have been blocked or deleted. And along the line, members began to prefer to use code or private PM. I personally see it as a violation of privacy to invade someone's privacy unless a person is kind enough to permit me to inbox him/her. So, please you all old members should bear with us. Am still strughling with serious nausea and yet forcing my eyes to remain on the phone screen for most part of the day just to keep abreast. Even now am feeling dizzy. Please bear with some of us y'all

Ramj:
Since she sent the documents via email I am sure the email was addrrssed to you. So just print the email that you exchanged along side the beakdown she sent.

Also you can use the details the doctors office sent to you as correspondence from hospital.

Since you have doctesperati corresspondence i am surethat can serve too.

So now yoy decide

Thanks Ramj, you guys are the best. I bless the day I came accross NL.

Babatwi:
It would be nice if you can get separate correspondence for both Dr and hospital,but in the absence of it,you can present the one sent to you by your Dr,that should take care of visa interview and poe. People here have done same and had no issues whatsoever with doing that. Goodluck

Thank you so much Babatwi. You and Shrek and fiona are the best.

My only concern is that apart from the fact that the lady emailed me, the doument she sent me was not addressed to me. It just has Dr's Nameand address and some hospital logo on top. Then titled Dr's fees and list of tests.

But the one I got from Doctores parati was addressed to me and very elaborate. They promised to send a Doctor's correspondence for visa interview at a fee which looks more tangible than this but my instinct is leaning towards Dr M and Carlifornia.

Shrek and fiona,

aabeg na you dey been answer me.
please I have done all my research and I chose Dr M at california. I spoke to someone at his office and she sent me a mail with the breakdown of Dr's fees and all the test I need to do before delivery. She also sent me a copy of fees for st Francis hospital.

I have made several calls to st Francis hospital, Centinela and Good Samaritan hospital in a bid to get a correspondence from them, all to no avail.

My question is, that breakdown which I received from a lady from Dr M's office, should I go ahead and present it at the embassy as the doctor' correspondence? And can I use the quote she sent me about st Francis fees which includea paeditrician and epidural charges as my burden of proof while going for interview or is there a special letter the doctor's supposed to write. Please help me before I make mistake at the embassy

shrekandfiona:
Since your hubby is the one with the benefits of the resident permit, I'll suggest he applies with you. It will give you an edge.

Your reason for overstaying is a strong and honest one. Explain it. Hopefully the VO will reason with you.

Its okay to be anxious but you need to relax a bit. I also did my renewal a few weeks back though via dropbox. I was called for an interview. Was anxious as well. But only 2 questions were asked. 1st was how much i paid when i went for delivery, 2nd was if i was going for medical purpose of which my answer was no as i am done with childbirth. My passport was ready the next day for pickup.

So i'll reiterate that you pick B2(medical) instead of vacation for your reason this time. Once given, you can still go on your vacation trip b4 childbirth.

All the best dear.

Hello all, please I have done all my research and I chose Dr M at california. I spoke to someone at his office and she sent me a mail with the breakdown of Dr's fees and all the test I need to do before delivery. She also sent me a copy of fees for st Francis hospital.

I have made several calls to st Francis hospital, Centinela and Good Samaritan hospital in a bid to get a correspondence from them, all to no avail.

My question is, that breakdown which I received from a lady from Dr M's office, should I go ahead and present it at the embassy as the doctor' correspondence? And can I use the quote she sent me about st Francis fees which includea paeditrician and epidural charges as my burden of proof while going for interview or is there a special letter the doctor's supposed to write. Please help me before I make mistake at the embassy

Oguk:
Hello everyone in the house, please I am new here and wants to get information. I want to travel to US to have my baby but am confused where to stay, which hospital will be cheaper for me and if I can get any help like nanny over there because I will deliver through c.s. Please anybody with a good and authentic information shld help me out. I will be due by Nov.

I think there are enough information from old pages regarding cheap hospitals. You should consider from oakbend in houston, doctores parati el paso, st francis or centinela in califonia, or Missouri. You can search from by typing in the search button any o these names while you hope for answers from the veterans and experts.

Chaii!! That is why we are where we are today. Some few people enjoying what should serve hundreds of millions and we are expected to work hard and keep 'surviving'.

That Mr. Eloquent who just shut everyone up with his intelligence should better come back here. He needs to tell us his background. His arguement can only be fair if he was just an ordinary nigerian who worked his way up from a very very humble background. But I doubt because he does not sound so. He does not have a good understanding of how the system plays in Nigeria. All the people he mentioned were raised with money gotten from Nigerian 'national cake'. Since he read so well, let him come back and give us the biography of these men he stated.

Nigerians! Nigerians! Suffering and smiling . Yet one person who was schooled from 'our money' will speak some grammer and quote some selected facts and everyone is silenced and nodding their heads. Why do we easily get brainwashed.

He should rather teach us how to be established. How much to pay for fuel to keep constant light as a graphic artist, as a professional photographer, as an IT expert etc. What about water? What about good road network for mobility? Its a pity he didnt touch those areas as the achievement of his dear Nigeria.

As a fresh graduate and a graphic Artist or Printer in a layman' language being my major skill, with no savings, where do I start from? Note that I dont have any tangible asset to use as collateral.

As an importer with limited cash, how do I survive after the custom and import charges. Note that there are made men in this country who have huge waivers from this charges. How do you fit into the market when the same product is sold at half your price (after import charges) by these made men? Do you know how many people have goods in some warehouses that they couldnt sell and suddenly the goods got out of fashion or out of demand. I guess you never gone through that path.

Do you know how many people are inone trouble or the other today just because they borrowed money from bank and business went bad. Have you identified the causes of bankcruptcy in Nigeria today?

Mr Eloquent, I am tempted to say you have spoken for a particular class of people. I doubt you are or have ever been an average Nigerian who worked his way to the top. I am tempted to believe you are one of those or a product of those who put Nigeria in the current situation. You do not feel the pain and frustration of an average Nigerian. You only want to placate your conscience by these bogus 'excuses' you have made. A lot of people in poorer african countries are content with their country not because they have too much but because they are being provided with the basic needs. Imagine poor Benin Republic, Togo, Burkina Fasso, Tanzania etc You would hardly find them hustling like Nigerians to live in US or UK. Why? Some of them have never heard anything like Electricity failure, lack of good water, etc. Secondly, those big names you mentioned that made it in Nigeria, send off their children toschool in the same US and UK you so discourage others from. Can you tell us why?

Truth about Tanzanians

1. They are very patriotic. They love their country and their countrymen. They respect their infractustures. No vandalism. They keep their environment very clean. There has been ban of satchet waters due to litterings. They frown at any one who litters. There are paid labourers sweeping even untarred roads. Tanzanians love themselves. Thats why they have a general mode of addressing one another as brothers (kaka) or (dada) sisters. A tanzanian would see his brother robbing you and would turn his eyes away. They would never take sides with you no matter what the brother doe[sup][/sup]s to you.

2. Recourse to public funds. Govt keeps the responsibilty of providing them basic infractures eg constant light, pipe borne water (though clean but not healthy for drinking) and good roads. Their BRT project is long completed with high standard. Continous repairs on major roads etc.

3. Tanzanians do not welcome influx of migrants who seek employment. The new president introduced a policy that makes it hard for foreigners to get easy documentation and or renewal of old documentation. They prefer to rather employ their own people and feel threatened that foreigners would render their citizens jobless. A great percentage of expatriates were denied work permit renewal and many have left Tanzania in the recent past.

Tanzanians have a very strong Beaureaucracy. It is very difficult to enjoy the system as an illegal. There are many willing snipers and informants who would tell on you. The law enforcement agents are always cracking down on such, especially around the business area. Even people who live in regions (outside major cities) are always arrested at home at odd hours. Your documents should always be with you as you are very likely to be stopped and searched at any time. It is hard to beat their system and be comfortable, especially in densely commercial areas. Hence, you should try to be documented properly.

Due to increased illiteracy and attendant joblessess, there are many cases of petty stealing, bag snatching, house and shop burgles, phone snatching. They can even snatch your phone and sell it back to you. Despite all these, there are few cases of armed robbery attack and rapes unlike some African countries where armed robbery is a nightmare and bloody.

Religious tolerance. They even intermarry though majority in the city are moslems


Business is good in tanzania but Tanzanians dont welcome foreign counterparts in business areas. They can connive with insiders or staff to raid business owners and nothing would come out of it.

Nevertheless, with God on one's side and a good host who must be your own person that has established against all odds, being your guide, tanzania is a blessed commercial place. Not for work. They dont appreciate your skill. They prefer you train their people and leave. No work. You can school and leave. Few die hard nigerians chose to stay, suffered major setbacks, bounced back and have made it big from Tanzania.

May God bless our hustles

emesen:
pls how much money can one make in a month there work or business

If you come into tanzania with a lot of money and have a duly registered business with resdent permit and work permit, in a year or two, you will be smiling to the bank

Ramaa:
Jirani mambo vipi....!!!??
Naona hawa wapopo wanataka kukuharibia siku....!!,

Typical Tanzanian! Mbeya!
Mtu mbaya

Ramaa:
Disturbance only for illegal migrants....if you are in the country legally no problems and you are free.....

About cost of renting apartments here depend on the locations of that apartments........

There is local areas like Magomeni, Kimara, Kariakoo, Manzese, Sinza and Mwenge you can catch an apartment for even $25 per month but these areas safety at your own risk....so many robberies incidents...and other crime activities.....

Areas like Masaki, Oysterbay, Kawe ,Mbezi beach, Msasani are safety places but are too expensives

Apartments with self contained single room can cost up $ 600 per month.....so choice is yours....

Thanks for being honest here.

clrkbutler:
Are you a Nigerian and want to visit or live in Tanzania ? Recently most Nigerian find it hard to get an accurate answer for the travel tips to TZ which i will be doing Henceforth . Please ask whatever you need to know and i can put you through . Its a very lovely place to be and live , very affordable and peaceful .

Why are people so wicked. You cook up lies just selfish gains not minding what the victims of your scam might suffer. A lot of Nigerians are in prison in Tanzania with no one to help bail them out. Their only crime being falling prey to scam adverts like this only to get to tanzania and have the little with them taken.

Tanzania is peaceful to some extent, yes. The higher percentage of them are not literate hence jobless or doing menial jobs. Other handful percentage are in the commercial hub doing business (Kariakoo). The only difference btw a Tanzanian and Nigerian businessman is that the maintain good profit margin unlike nigerians who compete senselessly.

Tanzanians hate foreigners (fact). No matter how nice you are to them or how much they smile with you, their major preocupation is how to get rid of you even if they have to burgle your warehouse. They do that in conspiracy and their police cover them. They dont want you to invade their system at their detriment. They would rather allow you make mistakes and losses than teach you their swahili. It is best if you have someone who is eztablished already there who can help you integrate into the system. Otherwise, you get waisted. They are snitches/snipers everywhere in the business place. You would think the world is against you when police and immigration always get hold of you. You would have to bribe your way out and when you are milked dry, they can throw you into their prison to rot away or pity you and deport you.

HIV prevalence is very high here and they see aids like ordinary malaria. Dont mess with their women' s heart or the set you up and f*ck your life up with immi and police.
You cant get any benefit by marrying their ladies.

You are only a little free if you come to Tanzania as a student and lead a quiet life. Or you have huge capital that can cover between dollars 2k-3.5k permit for business and that is not even easy to get. Even with permit, you still get harrased for work permit which is about 1.5k before you can peacefully do busiiness. Be ready to have your documentation for your goods sources or police and tra will not let you rest. Again, taxes you have to pay for all goods sold. Tanzania is not easy. Only good to come for sightseeing. They hate Nigerians with a passion.

I stand to be corrected

You mean me?

idebube:
]I can help u by sending you my budget sheet which was what I used for my interview at the embassy.
I intend using Houston Northwest Hosp. Dr. Xydas.I sent you a message ma'am

Thanks @ Babatwi

Babatwi:
@Mwebele
Well said @ the above,best advice so far,nothing to add.
Shine your eye this time around,child birth shouldn't cost that much if you do your home work right.All the best.

Thanks once again. I have learnt a lot from this Forum. I only got my zero balance statement from ideas share here. Never occured to me all the while. So few days ago, i called up the hospital and had them send me all receipts and zero balance statement. You all have been so helpful.

Secondly, i was hoping invitation will increase my chances though first time, we didnt use any invitation but i had heavy supporting documents and bank statement. Things have changed now and that has my confidence shaken but all the same, fingers crossed

shrekandfiona:
Since your hubby is the one with the benefits of the resident permit, I'll suggest he applies with you. It will give you an edge.

Your reason for overstaying is a strong and honest one. Explain it. Hopefully the VO will reason with you.

Its okay to be anxious but you need to relax a bit. I also did my renewal a few weeks back though via dropbox. I was called for an interview. Was anxious as well. But only 2 questions were asked. 1st was how much i paid when i went for delivery, 2nd was if i was going for medical purpose of which my answer was no as i am done with childbirth. My passport was ready the next day for pickup.

So i'll reiterate that you pick B2(medical) instead of vacation for your reason this time. Once given, you can still go on your vacation trip b4 childbirth.

All the best dear.

I appreciate your prompt response, dear. My husband has Resident permit here that covers my stay without work or other benefits. I just rnewed my daughter's passport from here and I asked the Officer who took the oath if i can apply from here and she said sure.

I overstayed because my baby came way past my due date. All plea to get them perform Elective CS on me fell o deaf ears. My baby came at 42 weeks while i requested for CS at 37 weeks.
Should I give this as a reason? Dont know why i feel this sudden anxiety.

shrekandfiona:
The only issue i see here is your 1month overstay. If you have good explanation for that then you're good to go.

You were given a visa for vacation, you went for your vacation 1st b4 going for childbirth. Not an issue.

You have relocated and you're now a stay at home mum. Not an issue. However, if you have your resident permit / stronger ties at your present place then apply from there no need to come to naija to apply.

You have your zero balance and receipts. Good. Have them handy.

For this trip, pls no need to state vacation. State childbirth and go when you are almost due. Have all your correspondence handy and apply.

Canada or any other country's rejection have no effect on US visa.

Just have convincing and honest reason why you overstayed on your last trip and hope for the best.

Cheers

Please make una answer me abeg.

Nwebele:
Hello everyone,

Been following this discussion right from Part 1.

Had my first daughter in the US 5 years ago. I went with a visiting visa with DH which we got in Nov 2010. I was asked if i was going for any medical visit and I boldly said no. We actually had a successful vacation in NY December 2010/Jan 2011. I got pregnant in Aug/September 2011 after 7years of marriage. We decided to have the miracle baby in US. I tried to get ideas about POE and was told to conceal the preggy tummy with boubou. That was in March ending 2012 . It was not noticed. I went to Dallas Texas this time where I have family. Bill was outrageous my delivery 12k baby 3k some little 2k and 1.5k here and there and other hundreds which all amounted to about 21k. Little discount given. Paid about 2.5k and paid the rest from Nigeria. Had minor outstanding which i recently discovered as I called the Hospital for my zero balance statement and i paid off. About $600

Five years after, God has smiled at us again and we plan to have the baby in US. Am only worried about getting a new visa. A family friend is sending us invite for a 2 weeks family holiday against Xmas in Maryland. We will book an hotel near their home. I would be back around March for childbirth . My Edd is April 05 2018. Am just so anxious about my travel history. Also, i was stamped in 3 months in my last visit but i stayed up to 4 months .

Would I be having issues? I tried to go to Canada via Study visa but was denied for "purpose of visit". Will that affect my US visa application. We also relocated to another African country because of DH's change of business. Now am not working, which changes my status from the previous visa application credentials as I see from most interview transcripts they always ask for occupation.

Please help as i would like to go to embassy in 2 weeks

Hello everyone,

Been following this discussion right from Part 1.

Had my first daughter in the US 5 years ago. I went with a visiting visa with DH which we got in Nov 2010. I was asked if i was going for any medical visit and I boldly said no. We actually had a successful vacation in NY December 2010/Jan 2011. I got pregnant in Aug/September 2011 after 7years of marriage. We decided to have the miracle baby in US. I tried to get ideas about POE and was told to conceal the preggy tummy with boubou. That was in March ending 2012 . It was not noticed. I went to Dallas Texas this time where I have family. Bill was outrageous my delivery 12k baby 3k some little 2k and 1.5k here and there and other hundreds which all amounted to about 21k. Little discount given. Paid about 2.5k and paid the rest from Nigeria. Had minor outstanding which i recently discovered as I called the Hospital for my zero balance statement and i paid off. About $600

Five years after, God has smiled at us again and we plan to have the baby in US. Am only worried about getting a new visa. A family friend is sending us invite for a 2 weeks family holiday against Xmas in Maryland. We will book an hotel near their home. I would be back around March for childbirth . My Edd is April 05 2018. Am just so anxious about my travel history. Also, i was stamped in 3 months in my last visit but i stayed up to 4 months .

Would I be having issues? I tried to go to Canada via Study visa but was denied for "purpose of visit". Will that affect my US visa application. We also relocated to another African country because of DH's change of business. Now am not working, which changes my status from the previous visa application credentials as I see from most interview transcripts they always ask for occupation.

Please help as i would like to go to embassy in 2 weeks

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