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raumdeuter:
If I tell the bank I have never opened a bank account before in Nigeria and this is a totally new application my name is James Brown

E.g Personally I had accounts in Nigeria before leaving which I haven't operated for years and all probably closed. I currently don't have a BVN. if I go to Nigeria tomorrow, I can go get a passport in another name(People still do this), organize Birth cert and claim a different name from the name I bore 14yrs ago make a Passport and open a new account with details different from the one I had 15yrs back

Right or wrong?

You must enroll for BVN before you can open or operate an Account(s) in Nigeria. Also you must tender either your National ID Card, International Passport, Driver Licence or INEC ID Card at the Point of Registration before they can proceed with the Processing. Some Banks ask for Birth Certificate too, simply to confirm your real Age.

The Names you fill for the BVN Registration must tally with the Names on your Passport or any Form of ID Cards you tendered. Your Fingers Print will be taken, your Face will be captured.

Hence, as a new Applicant, you can enroll for a BVN with your New Identity since you have no existing Data on their System, but it might bounce back on you in the Future except you ain't willing to get a National ID Card, coz FG is working on linking the BVN with National ID.

And starting from 2018, no National ID, no International Passport whether fresh or renewal.

"There is a practical commitment to this, we have agreed that from 2018 1st January, anybody who is going to apply for Nigerian Passport, whether renewal or fresh must first have a NIMC number, national identity number. Why we are doing this is we want to ease business for Nigeria. There is no need for you to go and have your bio metric captured by NIMC and then you come and capture again with the Nigeria Immigrations.

“Once you give us your NIMC number we will collect the bio metric from NIMC and produce your passport. That is the intention to do in all other agencies. I have also given directive that any foreigner, non Nigerian resident in Nigeria will not get his permit renewed.

“He or she will not get his renewed until he has a NIMC number. To achieve this, NIMC and passport numbers will be harmonized and we are committed to allow NIMC in Immigration."

- NIS Controller-General

raumdeuter:
I am new to the BVN scheme but is it tied to your finger prints?

To open a bank account shebi na Passport and utility bill dem need. Check this, I am Uche Obi I had many bank accounts and defrauded people in Onitsha,

I moved to Ibadan changed name to Tunde Ojo, Went to passport office made another passport in that name and got utility bills also in that name. Dey will give me another BVN right to match my "new name"

Move to Kano do the same get a new passport and repeat.

Getting a passport in Naija is easy there are guys who have original passports in like 10 names shey you know?

Correct me if I am wrong in any of my assumptions

Nah!

You are 100% wrong. You can only register for BVN once, then attach it to all your Bank Accounts.

Your Fingers Print would be taken, same as your Face and your full Details. If the Names you used to open your Account(s) don't tally (even by a Letter) with the Names you filled for BVN Registration, your Account(s) would be blocked until you correct it.

Mind you..... you can't open or operate an Account in Nigeria without BVN.

Icon4s:
We have 2 great AMs in Mikel and Iwobi. Etebo and Iheanacho are alternates who can play the AM role in addition to their primary roles.

Muazam is not up against Iheanacho and Etebo mind you. He is against Mikel and Maybe Iwobi. What can Muazam offer that would be better than what Iwobi and Mikel can offer?

If Mikel for any reason cannot make the trip then watch Rohr invite Muazam.

I agree he's not better than Mikel and Iwobi as an AM, also kinda appreciated you ain't seeing Etebo and Iheanacho as his Competitions coz they ain't playing the same Position.

Hence, no need dragging the Issue further Boss, let's hope the Invitees justify their Call ups.

safarigirl:
Did he not have a look-in already? Or are you not aware that he has been invited to camp before? Which other look-in again are you talking about?

Besides, if he cannot offer more than we already have, there is no point in a look-in to begin with

Alright Ma'am.

safarigirl:
your opinion of Iwobi's abilities is highly subjective.

He is not as effective on the wings...and forget natural player, that is just a term that implies lack of versatility. Do you think Muazzam would play AM better than Mikel or Iwobi?

I think he plays on the Wing at Arsenal or mostly as a RMF or LMF ma. Can Muazam play AM better than Iwobi or Mikel?!...... NO. Does he deserve a Look in?!...... YES. Must he be invited based on my view of him?!.....NO.

I'm ain't Part of the Coaching Crew, nor a Member of NFF Technical Board. We can only share our Views here with the Hope that a NFF Member could accidentally see it.

For more Details on where he plays or can play, check the Link below;

http://www.transfermarkt.com/alex-iwobi/profil/spieler/242631

safarigirl:
if you alreadh have a player that can play it competently and satisfactorily, will you not be okay if his replacement can do it decently?

We are talking about utility players that can be shifted anywhere and you are talking of one way players. Do you think we will always have the option of playing like for like subs?

What if Mikel gets a red when we have a game and you have Etebo on the wings on field, we are one man down and the coach wants to reinforce with a defender without touching the MF, will Etebo not be drafted there?

Etebo is even a bench warmer because in such a scenario, the player who would be on field to replace Mikel will most likely be Iwobi.

If Mikel is first choice AM and Iwobi is technically second choice, what do we need Muazzam for? And is Muazzam the best we can get if so?

Aunty.... thanks for your Input. But if you get my Point clearly I'm ain't saying either of the mentioned Players should be replaced with Muazam, rather asking for a natural AM also to be in the Team.

Mikel is a utility Player, same as Iwobi as you stated in your Analogue. But did you consider if no Player is red-carded and the Coach needs a real creative Midfielder to replace or complement either Mikel or Iwobi on the Pitch?!

More so, Iwobi flourishes when he plays on the Wing than in the Hole. He can comfortably switch to either Wing and still maintain his Rhythm. I also believe he can flourish playing 10 too, but as for Etebo, we are only assuming coz he's not listed as an AM in his Profile on many credible Sites.

Icon4s:
Muazam?

You cannot put him on the same level as Etebo and Iheanacho in that position Naaa.

When it comes to the national team a lot of things come to play. Eg Mikel did not need to be an AM in his club to be our first choice AM.

Why not Boss?! Has he been tested there?.....Yes (though for the B-Team). Did he impress....... YES!

Has Iheanacho been tested as a 10 for the Senior National Team?!..... NO. Can he play it?!...... Yes. Competently and satisfactory?!...... can't say.

I think I've trashed Etebo case with Sir Joebie. He's best played as B2B a Midfielder or a Wing-Forward as evident in the Olympic.

Joebie:
We can't just get everything our way. For me the list is 90% good, and that's excellent.
I think we all individually need to give it a score. It will be unrealistic to expect 100%.

Well I wasn't surprised with your Responses cos you've been rated as an unbiased Member of the Thread.

I'm satisfied with the List by 90% too, coz I really wanna see Nwakali play. Onazi is declining and he needs a serious Competition to buckle up.

I hope the Inclusion of Nwakali would be a real Thread to his Spot in the Starting XI, hence making him to up his Game.

Icon4s:
Iwobi played AM against Senegal.

We are not lacking in that department as apart from Mikel and Iwobi, Etebo and Iheanacho can play that position although to a lesser competency level than Mikel and Iwobi.

Boss..... you've already said it that everyone on the Thread is 100% Sentiment, coz your Submission is sentimental to be candid.

You claimed we ain't lacking in the Department, named few Players that could play the Position with lesser competency, thus how you concluded that we ain't lacking in the Department is baffling!

When was the last Time Iheanacho played as an AM, Etebo?!, even Mikel?! at Club Level though. Talent-wise we trust they can do it, but on professional level not competently except maybe Mikel.

Whereas Muazam plied his Trade in the Position while in Nigeria and continuing from where he stopped with Austrian Wien.

Joebie:
He's got his chance earlier by virtue of Super Eagles team B (CHAN), and he impressed.

Then he should have been included in the List, coz he's also playing Week in Week out for his Club as a AM despite that he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Humility017:
but for ogu...it can be said that he is fit and sharp

he passed the litmus test/criteria for national team call up...
he is playing for his club week in week out...
and for the SE the coach decides who get to play for the national team....


many have argued the need not to alter existing formation as reason for ogu bench role in the national team...so for musa what criteria was used for his call up?
how are we sure...the dude is fit for a national team job?
when last did he played a competitive football for his club?

your club performance ought to be search light for a players invitation to the national team

You still wanna toe this Line?! Lol! Seriously we do not need to drag it more than we've done already. Let's rest the Case, coz this won't change anything Bro.

You are simply doing what Forgiveness would do for Ajagun; while he merited the Call up but ignored.

Was Kayode fully tested before he's no longer getting the Nod of Rohr for the Call up?! I've made it clear already that Musa doesn't deserve the Call up based on Merit same as Ogu, whose his Age and Experience couldn't guarantee him a Spot in the Starting XI or a direct Replacement for Onazi.

Joebie:
Yes I got your point. only two AM's Mikel, and Iwobi hasn't played as an AM under Rohr. Very good point. However, I think we have better options for AM that were not even called up.

Of course we do, but if Muazam could make the B-List I guess he's rated by Rohr ahead of some others.

Humility017:
Lol...just that musa non playing time worries me....
he really need to start playing again and for ogu he plays week in week out...in Israel...so his call quite justifiable.

anyway..let's leave it here

But Ogu non-playing Time while on International Duty ain't worrying you?!

Musa does not deserve the Call up based on Merit at the moment, same as Ogu for only adding to the Squad List.

LOL!

Humility017:
I totally agree wit you on etebo...
I think my only reservation on that list is musa inclusion
for ogu...the dude has not been tested so it won't make sense dropping him...
dropping him for what...?
when he has not been tested so how can be judged ?
I think musa should have been omitted he don't deserve to be on that list at all....
he should have give way for one more winger like yinka or Dennis.....or even alhassan..who has been scoring lately....

anyway like I read somewhere...rohr apprecIate his sense of humor and liveliness he brings to the team
rohr need tell him the truth. .....he needs get a new club and start playing football otherwise he will be omitted from the Russia bauquet

I don't wanna cause another reckless argument, otherwise would have nailed you with bolded. Lol.

Rohr has seen him played in the Training Sessions, he has assessed his Style of Play, yet he chose to replace Onazi with Agu while Ogu was also on the Bench.

Why do you want Musa out of the Team, but wants Ogu to keep getting the Call up only to be updating his Instagram Page with SE News?! Just joking.

Joebie:
I think Etebo was one of the highest rated players in our match against Algeria, although not one of our best games. He played in midfield, probably box to box, looking at the way he played. At the olympics, he played as a LW according to transfermarkt.

I want to think Rohr is focusing on other positions he's not really decided on yet. For now, he seems to be satisfied with Mikel as AM and maybe Iwobi as well.

His approach may be to solve the most pressing need first.

A player placed on standby is actually a good sign. so no cause for alarm.

We've eventually come to the same Conclusion Bro. I said it earlier he's gonna definitely be a Hit as a B2B Midfielder because of his Strength, Pace and Tenacity.

Also I claimed he's best played as a Wing-Forward cos he excelled well playing the Position at Rio Olympic. Thus it's apparent Etebo can't be classed as a AM which limit the Numbers of AMs on the List to two - Mikel and Iwobi respectively.

Hope you get the Reason I asked for the Inclusion of Muazam on the List bro?!

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Joebie:
Thanks for the compliment.

I want to think that the selection process even among those in the SE fold is ongoing.

And you are right we have just Mikel and Iwobi as players who can play as AM. Rohr likes Etebo a lot. I remember when he just resumed as coach he singled out Etebo then for his exploits in the olympics opener. Etebo would have earned an immediate call up but for injury. So my friend, you don't know what Rohr has been seeing of Etebo in camp. Let's assume that with these two matches, players will be tried in other positions. I think Rohr is yet to make a final decision on some of the players in the team. And that is not to say they cannot fight their way back in the team if they get dropped.

Let's take these games one at a time. We also have an AFCON qualifier in March, and more friendlies coing. We will judge these players one game at a time.

With Nwakali around, it shows that the battle in the DM position is heating up.

If you check my Post on Forgiveness Grievances against Rohr and the List, you would see where I pointed out this ain't a World Cup List, that anything can happen between now and before the List is made.

Player like Etebo is needed in the Team. He can be a super-Sub like Martial is doing at United. I will also include him on my List as a Joker on the Bench if I'm the Coach.

However, you and I have to agree that he's actually not a AM, and if you want his Best on the Pitch, play him as a Wing-Forward. He gets the Strength, Pace and Tenacity to torment any FB on his Way. His Exploits at the Olympic wasn't in the Hole but on the Wing if my Memory serves me right.

Hence we only have only Iwobi and Mikel who can play as AM in the Team. Ogu keeps making the List, yet he has not been tested in any competitive Match by Rohr. Thus he should have been the one on the supplementary List instead of Muazam; which would have balanced the Numbers of AMs and DMs on the List.

Humility017:
I think you're right...no need for ogu and Agu invitation in situation of this kind.
your comments reminds me...of Nigeria vs Iran match in the last world cup...
where keshi played 3 DMs in that match...there was no creativeness...it took the introduction of osaze to bring life to the game.....

I think alhassan will likely make the world cup....list being that he is a gifted AM....and i don't think rohr is sold on iwobi playing the AM role yet....

I think definetely should chidi impress one of agu and ogu will be dropped in subsequent call ups.....

That's the Essence of Argument.... learning from others Inputs instead of jumping on any Moniker with a contrary View simply to get few Likes.

I really appreciate your Maturity on this Thread, also glad you understand my Stance on the list.

Joebie:
Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

When you see a sensible Person, it won't take minutes to identify him or her..... really appreciate your Input bro.

I'm ain't opposing the Invitation of Nwakali, rather objecting against too many inclusion of DMs in the List. If Rohr ain't satisfied with Agu or/and Ogu, he should have replaced him/them with Nwakali.

Nwakali is talented, but we've not seen him play for a longer time. Also hardly anyone is keeping Tabs on his Progress on this Thread except few Clips Tbaba1234 does post here once in a while.

However, if the Scout(s) believes he's ready for the National Call up, and gonna be an Upgrade in the Midfield, then we should wait till he plays before we could judge the Credibility of his Invitation. But Muazam Invitation wouldn't have been a bad Call either coz he's a natural AM with eyes for Goals.

Finally, I'm ain't clamoring for a must Invitation of Muazam, but only saying we need more AMs in the Team too. Iwobi can play AM comfortably same as Mikel, but Etebo ain't creative enough to play in the Hole. I will rather play him as a Box2Box Midfielder, play to his Strength, consider his Pace and Tenacity.

This might sound funny but I think VicMo should have been on the List except he didn't want to. He's injured, but being around with the Lads at the Camp; celebrating with the Team for the official completion of the qualifying Matches; having the Opportunity to see the Team Plays against Stars-studded Argentine Team would have been a morale BOOST for him.

In Addition, the Friendly Game is scheduled to take place in Russia - the host Nation. This would have been a great Opportunity for him and the Rest of the Team to acclimatize with the Whether in Russia.

Hazard, while he was still injured, always got a Call up from the National Team Coach. This is simply a mean of encouraging Players that the Coaching Crew care for them.

maidaboi:
rantings kwa
buahahahaha

Shouldn't have replied you in the first place, my Apologies.

Enjoy your Day!

maidaboi:
not muazam na kayode and ajagun suppose dey that list oh i forget onomah
buahahahahaha

Oga..... use your Brain to counter an Argument or oppose a particular Submission instead of laughing like a slowpoke.

So for your Mind..... I'm an Agent of Muazam?! Some of you are simply tagging-me-along Crew (I concur) on this Thread.

Discourse makes a Thread lively, seem you expect Everyone to accept whatever is served by certain Monikers?

Wise up, if you get a contrary view to my submission, counter it intelligently with Facts instead of ranting.

tbaba1234:
Who are your better options at DM that are currently fit?

I am not sure of Nwakali's readiness for national team duty but the coach must have reviewed scouting reports to invite him. How many Nigerian players score the type of goals that Nwakali has scored in the last couple of seasons?

Sir Tbaba1234, I have deep respect for you on this Thread, same goes to few Monikers as well but you ain't being objective on this Nwakali Issue.

Do we need to bombard the Team with too many DMs.... Ogu, Agu, Onazi, Ndidi, Mikel etc?! Muazam should have made the Team instead of Nwakali cos he's a regular Starter for his Club, remember he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Mickael2 has made a valid Point that justifies his Inclusion in the Team - that he's a versatile Player that can also play as a LB comfortably and I think we should take it like that, since Echiejile was left out due to Injury.

Humility017:
thank you my brother...
to be honest I was not happy seeing kayode and Paul's name being omitted...

but just had to accept it...knowing that a man must not have his way at all times..
hopefully they gets their chance...

That's the Point! Kayode really deserves to be on the List, but Rohr is in Charge not us. Ours is simply to support the Team regardless to the Players invited by the Coaching Crew.

The Dude is pained, but he's over-reacting thus he's making unnecessary Allegations. I wish he retracts his Allegations, then kinda endeavor to move and focus on analyzing what the Invitees could offer in the two Matches.

Don't really wanna come in, but couldn't resist any longer. I think Forgiveness needs to take it easy. Don't let the Anger gets the good of you.

I certainly understand your Pain. You love the Players, you follow them, you believe in their Abilities and Talents, you want them in the Team, but the Coaching Crew ain't reasoning or seeing things as you.

No one really bribes anyone. Who ever is on the List deserves the Call up as far as he's a Nigerian. There is no need to be throwing Allegations up and down bro.

You need to support the Team, hope for good Performances from the invited Players, and who ever fails to impress gonna definitely lose his Chance of making the WC List.

Mind you, this ain't the WC List. Anything can happen before the WC List is finally OUT. Many Players gonna be invited, tested and assessed. C. Nwakali has never been invited to the Senior Team. Let's see what he has to offer.

Forget the League he's plying his Trade, coz I believe that the Norwegian League is superior to Cyprus League. If Shehu could rep well in GWG, don't right off C. Nwakali yet.

Also, don't give up now, coz Kayode might eventually get another Chance, impresses the Coaching Crew and eventually gate-crashed into the List.

Chill Bro..... this ain't the WC List.

elrony:
Bro was threatening and doing agidi ontop the matter too...

All these dry gin recruits sef.. wan spoil small thing wey man don learn for this board.

"Defensive Winger "

Jesu! ! ! ! !

Searching for it's meaning like......?!