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Maynman:
You’re still a dumb child.
Christianity started in Greece,

Christians In Greek don’t call “God”. God is a English word. They say “theo”. Olodo.

You're the dumbest atheist i've ever met on nairaland.
That's the name they wish to call their GOD, or is this nt this GOD there're refering to? Or do they mention zeus? we yoruba christians call him olorun, the isrealies christians call him elohim and yahweh, ibo call him chineke and so on.
Everyone decide to call him the name the want to call him, the name of this being is uncountable.
That's is what i meant kid, you don't say becos we call him those deties names that means we're refering to those deties, we call him those names becos because is for a supreme being.
Recieve sense in jesus name, u can go and be serving zeus when christian population is increasing every year.

Maynman:
You are a shameless liar, Where did I say Yahweh is not a “name”. They are not generic names that’s what I meant .

Go and reread what we've been discussing since and bring out where you mentioned they are nt generics names.
I'm more smarter than you, you only knw history but you don't understand the content.

Maynman:
Olodo rabata.

You're still a child, you trained yourself with studying of history, but you lack one thing "brain to think"
I asked, are there christians in greece?
Look at what you used in replying in the first place.
Now i want to ask you another question, do christians in greece call their GOD zeus?

Maynman:
Yes, Israel was given to him as inheritance by his father,Elohim.

your replies are just contracdicting, you said yahweh is nt a name how come you agree he's a name of a god of isreal, i've wanted to ask maybe people with title in your village don't have names or they're nt being too.
As long as yahweh is a name of a god in israel so we also call our own GOD yahweh. Simple.

Maynman:
“Christian” is a Greek word.

You can't even diffrenciate between greek and greece olodo.
Greece is a country, greek is their language.
You want to twist the question.
What i asked is a yes or no question.
Are there christians in greece?

Maynman:
“God” is a title not a person. Zeus is a God Yahweh is a God Eledumare is a God They are not names, they are Beings. The “God” is a title.
What’s so hard to understand?

Yahweh is name of the god of israelites. Don't use lies to twist points.

Maynman:
Ancient Greeks too believe in Zeus. “Oloduamare” is not just a name or a title , it’s a being , What’s so hard to comprehend?

What do you think i've been saying since morning
Are there christians in greece?

Maynman:
You can’t call them because they are not insrealites gods, same as Eledumare, in the myth he is an entity and not just a title.

So what is your headache in we christians calling our GOD those deties name?

Maynman:
Ignorant fool, you said Yahweh is olodumare, and I told your dumbass that it’s not.
Olodumare is an entity, Yahweh is another entity. They are not titles.
Why don’t you call Yahweh, Zeus too? He rules heaven and hell.

Isreal believed in yahweh and elohim right?
Yoruba believed in olodumare right?
And they are their gods, so we christain decide to call our own supreme being those names also, but not all those deties names.
This thing is not to difficult for a matured man to understand.
I understand you but you just twist points anyhow.
We don't call our own GOD "odin, zeus jupiter and all that" we decide nt to use those names, we only specify.
What of the nazarenes in isreal that call this same supreme being that we worship "yahweh, elohim?

Maynman:
Read, they are also called supreme beings. Who are the “we”??

Do i say they are nt supreme being also? We don't just call our own supreme being those names.

Maynman:
This is the history of OLODUMARE don’t confuse it with Yahweh. Can’t you read?

I just realise i've being arguing with a damn fool.
Since we've being arguing do i ever say the supreme being the christians worship is the olodumare the yoruba worship.
If you reason straight you will see that what i've been saying is that, we only call him those names, we're nt refering to those deties simple!!! You no get brain to reason nhi

Maynman:
What were they referred to as before tertulian called them “chrestian”?

All i knw is that the disciples were once called "nazarenes". As jesus was called "nazareon" meaning nazareth if correct

Maynman:
You are saying rubbish, Zeus, Jupiter, Allah and Odin are supreme beings, are they Yahweh too?

You're are having a bigger problem than i thought.
We don't call that supreme being those deties names, the deties names we call him are what i've mentioned.
Like elohim, yahweh, olodumare, aditu, jehovah, olorun e.t.c. Simple.
We don't call him all deties names, only specific ones.

Maynman:
“Christ” is a Greek word derived from Hebrew messiah.
Israelites practice Judaism, when Jesus was alive he was a Judaist.

Who said jesus was a christian?
Even primary school student will understand what i've being saying, you reply as if your brain have been shut down.
Was it not from jesus that we derived christianity?
Ok, where was the place jesus disciples were first called christ like?

Maynman:
Which “God”, god is a title not a person.

The supreme being the christian worships.
And we call him the names the isreal call their material god.
But nt refering to them, we give this supreme being names given to the material gods of isreal.
We call him olodumare because yoruba believed he is the supreme being that created heaven and earth, our stories might be different but we give him names of those deities yoruba, isreal and all others call their god , becos those are the names given to a supreme being.
Try to understand me, don't get confused of what i'm saying.

Maynman:
The people in isreal are not referred to as “christians”, “Christian” is a Greek word, do they speak Greek in Israel?
What’s the origin of the word “Elohim” and “Yahweh”?

So you mean there are no followers of christ in isreal?

Maynman:
Zeus is a supreme being
Odin is a supreme being
Jupiter is a supreme being.

Is Yahweh and Zeus the same?, since you are comparing Yahweh and eledumare.

Still on same point, the only material god name in isreal used in calling this GOD, zeus and odin are nt included.
The only names i know are elohim, yahweh and i think jehovah.
Those that call that supreme being those names in isreal do you mean they are refering to those material god?

Maynman:
You are sending me to a Bible and Christian link, we have other links who disprove your Bible too, use same standard for both.

You can provide the link.
But on a neutral status, a question was asked that "what if GOD created everything but through evolution?"
That was my believe and still my believe, i believe in both GOD and in science.

But what do have to say about secular scientist?

Maynman:
You are the one confused, do “Israelites” speak English? Why not research on what they call their supreme being.
Do Yoruba speak English? Why not research on what they call their supreme being, do that for other tribes.
Again, God is a title not a person, Zeus, Odin, Jupiter, Yahweh, Allah all of them are called that.
Eledumare is different from Yahweh, Zeus, Allah, Odin, don’t be ignorant. Where in Yoruba history did olorun give birth to a Jew man, called “Jesus
This is the story of how eledumare created earth.

I get ur point, you're just based on history of how yoruba and isreal gave their creation story.
The defination of GOD is supreme being believed to create the whole universe.
Ok what do you have to say about the christians in isreal that call the same person all this isreal material god names like elohim and yahweh.
Do you mean they're refering to their material god?

Maynman:
“God” is a title and English word, do Jews speak English? You are the one that don’t know what you are saying.
What do Israelites call “god. They speak Hebrew not English.
Olorun is not “god”, olorun is olorun. “God” is not a Yoruba word.
This is eledumare and it has history , look it up and don’t be ignorant.

You're still confused, who do isrealites call all those names?
Who yoruba call all those names?

Maynman:
What context, you mean out of the gods your own is the right one? All of them claim it too.
Beside god is a title not a person.
Please don’t confuse Yahweh for eledumare, they are different.

I understand ur problem it's confusion u only read but u don't understand the content.
Accepted god isn't a name but a title, the research u did that u found out that god isn't a name but a title u didn't see it there that when some the isrealites forbade their material god they gave those material gods names to the almighty GOD cos that's is the only name given to a super being in their culture.
In yoruba when we want to call olorun we call him different names like eledua, eledumare, aditu and others like the isreal call GOD yaweh, elohim and others still refering to the same person.

Maynman:
So many scientists have also disprove the Bible, that’s why I said you should use same standard. And God is a title not a person.

Accepted, but if you understand the content you will see there are small gods and the almighty GOD.
God reveals himself to people, he does so in exactly the language concept and cultural context of those specific people, that was why god is a title in hebrew.
But futher we are to know there is difference between the almighty GOD and the material god of israel, only synonymous with name. God was given the name of israel material god because he reveal himself to them according to their cultural context, here in yoruba we call him eledumare, aditu and all other because he reveal himself according to our cultural context.
So i don't still the point u want to bring out or the reason why you believe GOD doesn't exist.

Maynman:
You mean you compared the evolution story and Bible creation story and you use the same standard for 2 of them, it was the Bible that made more sense?

This is the link
https://bibleprophecyandtruth.com/creation/creationVSevolution?gClid
You can go through it to see more, nt sure of the first one.

Maynman:
You mean you compared the evolution story and Bible creation story and you use the same standard for 2 of them, it was the Bible that made more sense?

This should be the link
https://www.goshen.edu/bio/Biol410/bsspapers02/alyssa.htm
Just go through the link, so many scientist proofs that was later found wrong, only the bible stand on the same proof, but the scientists keep proving themselves wrong.
Only GOD knw what the scientists of the next generation and century will prove.

Maynman:
Bwahahahah.
Are you saying even if you are a true follower and you call the name of Latin Jesus you will still suffer?

So Jesus subdued The power of darkness and all these is still happening to true followers?
Where are all these sufferings coming from? The same power of darkness he subdue?
So I don’t think he subdue this world, as you said he went to prepare another place not this one.

You've us mocked us foolishly, i will still keep saying it, only those who are ignorance of the bible that say the trash you wrote up here.
Tribulations shall come but when we call on his name he shall save us.
When the isrealites wanted to fight their enemies they call on GOD and they won the battle, peter was emancipated from the prison when they interceeded for him, paul and silas was also emancipated from prison when they call on GOD, though died in persecution but they laugh last because they inherited the kingdom of GOD, which is the main goal of a christian.

Maynman:
So you mean TRUE followers of Jesus Christ won’t and can’t suffer?

Still twisting bible, and it's lack of knowledge and understanding about the word of GOD.
We shall all carry our cross, we shall suffer persecution and hatred from the world.
But what has been the christian watchword is that he has conquered the world meaning we shall laugh last by inheriting the kingdom of GOD, jesus has gone to prepare for us.
One of the hatred is the atheist hatred for christianity, jesus loves you u need to go back to him and stop this foolishness of yours, the bible says "only a fool will see all this things and say GOD doesn't exist.
I was on a site on how the foolish proofs of the scientists were proved wrong by a man, he compared evolution and the bible creation story, very interesting to read, if i get the link again i will send it to you.
Almighty GOD exist and he want you to repent from your destructive way.

Maynman:
How effective is this “power of darkness” that he subdue in the world? Abi no be this world?

Still don't understand the scripture.
The name of jesus is for everybody but it is only effective and can only work for his people.
Same jesus also said "not all those who call me by my name will i save" those are people who call him with false tongue.
That was why he said "i know my sheep and my sheep know me"
The name of jesus is so effective that it has performed so many miracles that i even witnessed and experience myself.

Maynman:
What and which power did he subdue in the world?

The powers of the darkness.
No wonder they flee when they hear the name of jesus.
Because jesus said "whosoever call upon my name shall be saved"
"a name has been given to him which is above every other name that at the name of jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and things under the earth and every tongue should confess that jesus is lord"

Maynman:
He overcame the world and his followers too will suffer in the world? Can a crowned prince suffer in the palace? Religion oooo.
The same way Latin Jesus suffer, his followers have even over suffered.
So which world did he overcome? Where is it?

Some don't just understand the scripture, overcoming the world doesn't mean we won't carry our cross, he even mentioned it.
What he meant was he has subdued the powers of the world, if we would endure to carry our cross we would have victory atlass by inheriting the kingdom of God as he did when he ascended into heaven.
That was why he said "for whosoever shall fight till end would be save"
Jesus words and preachings are parables, only the wise and spiritual minded will understand.

spokesboy:
Mr. Lazy-eyes-russsia-fan..... see extract from the op's article below

Tell me how russia force is running out of precision weapon fairly.
Or didn't you go through the link i sent?
When russia have in bulk and still producing more, in your own sense of reasoning you believed that pointless ben wallace.
Well it's nt a surprise becos UK was exposed that they were running out of tank, the propagandist (ben wallace) denied it, but why has UK stopped sending in weapon if it were nt true?

spokesboy:
The statement implies that Russia is running out of precision guided weapons. Please read the article once again. The PGW is the weapon of 21st century warfare.

https://tass.com/defense/1029407?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=google.com&utm_referrer_google.com
Just go through that link and come back to argue how russia will or is running out of precision guided weapon.

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BritishNaija:
Lolz. Look at this chronicle dull brain zombie trying to pull out from zombiesm. You are not exposed at all and It's a Known fact. A lot of your comments sold you out, be humble like i said abd get thought.

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