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Kobojunkie:
So you are insinuating that where Jesus Christ condemns the folllowing of the doctrines and traditions of men preached as if of Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 - Jesus Christ was wrong?

Nope! Jesus wasn't wrong.
No one is preaching men traditions and doctrine, it was those who he want to condemn that he had condemned.
We preach what jesus taught us.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never taught you that the world will never hate you for lies. Your assumptions aren't based on His teachings at alll.

I think you're sleepy or your brain isn't working at all, your hatred for church can't make you think straight again.
You want jesus to say that, "the world would never hate you for lies" until you believe that that was what he was talking about in john 15:18-26. Can't you think?!!!

Kobojunkie:
1. Nope! Jesus Christ is God's Truth. His existence comprised only of God's Truth hence the world's hatred of Him was because of Truth - there were no faults to be found of Him by those who killed Him

2. If we are to look at it that way, then maybe you guys are also being intentionally punished for your sins by God in this as well, especially since your faults are as high as the heavens beginning with the fact that you don't even follow the very teachings of Jesus Christ to begin with.

3. See #2 above to note how that remains unlikely the case. Repeating the same lies won't make it true.

Deceiving yourself, cos you aren't decieving anyone, it won't change anything.
The church had been standing and it will remain standing and the gate of hell shall never prevail cos it has been built on the ROCK.

Kobojunkie:
I wasn't there but I believe Him when He said that Heaven and Earth will Pass away but not a jot of God's Word, the Word out of God's own Mouth, will ever pass away..

Beating around the bush, it was his disciples he elected and instructed the disciples now passed the instruction to us and we follow.
As the apostles were leading the early church according to the teaching of jesus so also the present church leaders are leading the church according to jesus teachings and holy spirit directions. Believe it or not it's nt gonna change anything, church had started since jesus departure/ascension not just now.
And you now come from no where to condemn it because you lack understanding.

Kobojunkie:
How can the world hate you for lies? Is that a joke?

Think!!! What i meant was that with all what jesus taught us we can see the world will never hate us for lies instead they hate us because of the truth "john 15:18-26" and jesus is the truth.
That's why "matthew 24:9" is coming to pass.

Kobojunkie:
Really? So when the world hated the Israelites when they were living in disobedience of God's Law, the world hated them because of God and nothing else?

It is only when your existence is comprised of God's Truth that it can then be said that the World hates you because of the Truth.

So jesus was also killed because of his bad behaviour abi?
Get brain.... israelites were intentionaly punished by God becos of their sins.
We are persecuted for the gospel mat 24:9, but you can never be persecuted cos you aren't a christian that preach the gospel, only pretending.

@kobojunkie The world can only hate you for the truth not lies or negative behaviour @kobojunkie

Kobojunkie:
1. Like I said, that happens be your assumptions of Holiness, not mine.
2a. Jesus Christ said that of those who are of Him -those who live their lives in continuous submission to and obedience of His teachings(and commandments) - not of those of you who submit instead to the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches) , lies, which He vehemently warned against - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 13
2b. Hatersof the Gospel hate thosewho live in continuoussubmission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ aka the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.
Those whoyou claim hate you forbeing "Christians"do so for reasons not even attached toJesus Christ but your behavior towards them, the world, behavior whichare in many ways removed from that commanded by Jesus Christ aka antiChrist.

Your last assumption depicts your a true hypocrite, with the teachings of jesus, how can d world hate u for lies?

@kobojunkie

You said jesus alone is the master, yes he's the only leader agreed!!! But why did he elect his disciples and not everyone he preached to?
@kobojunkie

Kobojunkie:
1. Your church leaders have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ since He instead told you that He alone is leader/authority, Head/Master etc., over those who belong to Him - Matthew 6 vs 24 & Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28 & Mark 10 vs 42 - 45 & John 10 vs 7 - 16 .

2. The apostles where sent out in the world to teach the Gospel, the very same teachings(and commandments) Jesus Christ taught to them, to all those unsaved in the world. - Mark 16 vs 16 - 18, The Truth of God, the very same teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ as detailed in the 4 Gospels condemn your so-called church leaders even today.

Do you even knw what you're saying at all?
Those apostles were those whom you said you were not following, now you're indirectly supporting their teachings, but you've forgotten they said we should not forsake our assemblies.
Where 2, 3 or more are gathered in my name i'm with them, who do you gather with?

Kobojunkie:
1. My holiness? I never claimed to possess any holiness to begin with so I think you mean your assumptions of holiness instead are filthy before God.

2. Now you are beginning to sound exactly like the JWs. What exactly do you believe Jesus Christ said or prophesied about you?

Sign of hatred. By the way, who exactly are the people all over the world who hate you because you believe in Jesus Christ?

Does the fact that you also exude hate towards some of those same people also count against you? Or is this a case or " we can hate them but if they hate us for hating on them then we are justified by their hate of us?

1. You sound like a holy and perfect person when you said you follow jesus preachings.
2a. One of the things jesus said abt us is in mat 24:9
2b. Haters of the gospel hates christians "and you've shown it through your replies, condemning us" i doubt if you preach the gospel.

@kobojunkie
You've forgotten church leaders started from peter and the early apostles jesus christ elected himself when he came to the world. So what you're saying is that those early apostles too are also part of those who will lead people astray cos that's what your point and replies are insinuating.
@kobojunkie

@kobojunkie
Your holiness is like a filthy rag before God.

For you to know we are the true christians what jesus said or prophesied about us are coming to pass, but you sit at home condemning christians and churches, pretending to be a true christian "well it's a sign of the hatred jesus was saying in matthew 24:9"
@kobojunkie

@kobojunkie
A hypocrite is someone who pretend to have moral standard, opinion or understanding of something in which they do not have "and in which you've shown through your replies.
I understand your level of reasoning, becos jesus condemned the priests and the pharisees it means pastors and church leaders should also be condemned.
Never forget jesus didn't condemned moses who brought the law he didn't come to condemn but to fufill, he didn't condemn elisha, elijah, ezekiel and the likes.
HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR US TO DO THINGS FOR THE GLORY OF GOD.
@kobojunkie

@kobojunkie
Mr perfect and mr know it all it's your type jesus is refering to "the hypocrite"
5. I'm not saying jesus is wrong, jesus christ preached doctrine and we follow what he preached our doings are from his teachings and nothing more.

You proving you're perfect, holy or you know it all, it's still like a filthy rag before God so what why condemning? @kobojunkie

Kobojunkie:
Your assertion make no sense to me so please explain.

1. First of all, where did God state that you should not join the Nations to doing?

2. And what do you mean by your claim that missed the way through social media?

3. And what is wrong if the forum is owned by an atheist?

4. The grace Jesus Christ gave to His followers is Eternal life, which is indeed sufficient so I don't understand what that has to do with this here conversation.

5. So you are insinuating that where Jesus Christ condemns the folllowing of the doctrines and traditions of men preached as if of Him - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 - Jesus Christ was wrong?

2. Alot missed d way through what they see on social media.
4. Anything u do do them for the glory of God, since lent is for d glory of God we don't need opinion from a disguised wolf from d pit of hell THE GRACE OF JESUS IS SUFFICIENT FOR US to do it.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ told you to fast and pray but Jesus Christ never told you to engage in what is your starvation diet kind of fasting, nor did He command your prayer rituals as you have them in your churches and homes.

See, God already explained these things to you.

a. How to fast - Isaiah 58 vs 1 - 14
b. How to pray - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15
c. How to let your light shine - Isaiah 58 vs 8 - 14

So when you go doing what you want instead of what God actually commands, you do so deceiving your own self, not God..

Mr perfect you ought not to use social media cos God said we shouldn't join the nations to do what they're doing "a lot have missed the way through social media". And the forum you are using right now is owned by an atheist.
THE GRACE OF JESUS IS SUFFICIENT FOR US. No christian teachings is against the jesus teachings cos jesus himself teaches doctrine.

Kobojunkie:
First of all, Jesus Christ no command anyone Lent. And God never asked anyone to embark on starvation diets in Jesus Christ name. The kind of fast God commands is detailed in Isaiah 58 and it has absolutely nothing to do with the starvation diet kind of fasting that is your Lent rituals..

Second, what does it matter how Muslims engage their Allah and his many rituals abeg?

Jesus told us to fast and pray.
Running around from one thread to the other like lice to preach your master's (satan) way and to mislead people won't change anything.
Your gate will never prevail over the church "wolf in sheep clothing"

joyandfaith:
Lying is one of symptom of trisomy 21. All lands acquired were either unoccupied lands or purchased or treaty. USA has not made attempt to acquire
neighbouring lands for almost 2 centuries.
Russia is a land grabber. Ask Finland, ask baltic nations, ask Ukraine.

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_territorial_acquisitions

You can check this also
https://faculty.weber.edu/kmackay/chronological_list_ofexpansion.htm

joyandfaith:
Lying is one of symptom of trisomy 21. All lands acquired were either unoccupied lands or purchased or treaty. USA has not made attempt to acquire
neighbouring lands for almost 2 centuries.
Russia is a land grabber. Ask Finland, ask baltic nations, ask Ukraine.

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_territorial_acquisitions

Lies, not all land were annexed through treaty, purchase or an unoccupied area.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/united_states_territorial_acquisitions_table

joyandfaith:
You can show us since you know and also tell us how usa acquired them. I have shown you how Russia stole your ancestral lands. Trisomy 21 patient.

Tell me you want to learn trisomy 21 patient.
Vermount republic was annexed in 1791 not by treaty, nor purchase or an unoccupied area.
Texas was also annexed in 1845 not by treaty, nor purchase or an unoccupied area.
Mexican cession, mexico was annexed in 1848 not by treaty, nor purchase or an unoccupied area.
Republic of hawaii was annexed in 1894 not by purchase, nor treaty or an unoccupied area.
Indian territory was annexed in 1901 not by treaty, nor purchase or an unoccupied area.
King reff was annexed in 1922 not by treaty, nor purchase or an unoccupied area.
So what will you call this western puppet?

joyandfaith:
With your fish brain, you cannot comprehend geography and map. Another trisomy 21 patient on the loose.

The arguement is beyond your cockroach brain abi?

You called russia land grabber, then simply show us U.S.A map in those years i've mentioned.

joyandfaith:
How and when did usa come about as a county? Obaf9. Product of exam malpractice. Empty brain.

Even though he mentioned 1479 when US have not been founded.
Beetleheaded show me US map in july 1776, 1800, 1850, 1900 and 1930.
Then you tell me how US didn't grab land also.

joyandfaith:
Show me nigeria in 1621

Almagamation is different from annexation olodo.
What he's trying to say was USA also annexed to be what they're today u can argue about that.

Kobojunkie:
1. You are not making any sense still. Again, Jesus Christ never asked you for your heart. Instead He asked you to change from the Old way of living to a new way of living which He gives to you .I.e. repent and be born-again. It is after that that God Himself will give you a new heart according to His promise in Ezekiel 36 vs 25 - 27

2. Nothing in Matthew 18 vs 20 justifies any of the claims you continue to make. And since you are not Hebrew, I don't see how that stated in [b]Hebrew 10 vs 25[/b]even begins to apply to you since it refers instead to those descended from Jacob..

3. If you agree then that humans are not holy, and language is not holy, then surely you see how the book cannot be said to be of holiness..

And you believe the book to be the source of your salvation and where you saw the teachings of jesus, but it's not longer holy all because of "i hate churches"
I leave you to your reprobate mind.

@kobojunkie You're dumb o, giving your heart and changing from old ways can't you think? Eph 3:12, mat 18:20 and heb 10:25. And who said languages are holy? Are u this dumb? @kobojunkie

@kobojunkie
There's no how your heart is given to jesus that you won't abide in him. It means your heart is his. He's abiding in you and you in him. You're not a kid think!!! I tire for u o.

Language can be used in expressing God's word, for a better understand. I'm not saying languages are holy. We can express God's word in different version of language. And God reveals himself to people according to the context of their culture, language is a culture. God won't reveal himself in yoruba to a chinese who doesn't understand yoruba. SIMPLE!!

Kobojunkie:
In Unity?

Did Jesus Christ teach you, anyywhere there in Luke 22 vs 15 - 20, that if you eat His body and drink His blood alone, that you will be denied eternal life and a change at the agreement which God offers to you as an individual- Matthew 26 vs 28- 30?

See exposing yourself.
If jesus isn't in support of assemblies will he gather men to preach?
Or what do you think he was doing in temple?
Or you're expecting jesus to build cathedral before you know he's gathering men. LOL.

@kobojunkie
You lack understanding a lot, the word of God is a big mystery to you.
If you give your heart to jesus, is it not same thing to abide with him? Can't you think?!!! Is until a word is used in all diversity before you understand?
If this's what you heard and you believe the pastors and the true christians are lying then you are greatest fool on earth, atheists are better than you. Lack of understand is a big problem to you.
When it comes to language we can use it in diversity, that's why we have different version of the bible, think!!! You forcing this out of my mouth. You're grown up.

Kobojunkie:
Worry more about yourself and those you have set up as god over you.

Worry more about your lack of understanding of the word of God

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ command these missionary/assembly you speak of?

How are we going to take the holy communion in unity as jesus commanded us to do?
"Luke 22:15-20"