Igboid:
Interesting.
What this shows is that Igbo republic is much viable without Minorities.
Once we get our Igbo people in Obiigbo and Egbema on board and get Enuani on board. We offset the Deficit in FG allocation immediately.
And we would still be sitting on gargantuan untapped natural gas reserves in Abia, Imo and Anambra to extract and even add more to our revenue generation. Oil exploration in SE has even been very poor. In BIAFRA we would intensify the effort in crude oil potentials of LGAs like Ugwunagbo and Ukwa East in Abia that have shown big promise, in Ohaji and Oguta LGAs of Imo, in Ogbaru, Anambra East, ANAMBRA west, and Ayamelum of Anambra, etc.
I'm sure we would find enough to quickly get more than we are currently getting from FG.

With an international airport of our own, more forex poured into the country by our humongous and resourceful diaspora population. Omo!
Biafra is very very viable without Minorities.
With Fulani herdsmen rounded up and sent to MALI, we can finally revolutionize our agricultural sector form of high tech agricultural system like they have in Netherlands and even earn more revenue. And we haven't even started talking of the skill capacity of Aba and industrial capacity of Nnewi. Innoson can be given all the support and power to become a truly global leading brand in technology. They can even be helped to diversify to other home electronics like refrigerators, TV, etc. Improving our balance of trade in the process as we would import less things from outside Igboland, ensuring a very strong Biafra pounds.

The potentials of independent republic of Igboland, aka Biafra is mind-blowing.

Someone should show IPOB and co this.

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Pazienzia Nwanne, on that diaspora issue, I would strongly advocate for a diaspora tax, just like how every American citizen pays tax to the US regardless of where they are around the globe. Western first world country Igbos 18yrs and above $500 per head every year, Eastern Europe/Malaysia/China/Japan $300, South Africa/ Latin America/middle east $200, rest of the world outside Biafra $50-$75. Okwu agwu!

Imagine the kind of infrastructural and technological advancements that can be achieved with these additional tax fund plus our Domestic GDP when administered under our own Ohacracy. We will shake Africa and indeed the world.

oz4real83:
Yes. The same way hausas and fulanis are also everywhere in the southeast, southwest, south-south and other regions. U will wake up one day and discover that they have even taken over that your little bedroom where u are posting this topic capable of creating hostility from. Being an accomodating host to non-indegenes has suddenly become a mistake. Allowing some people to freely and happily reside and do businesses im the name of "one Nigeria" is why this op is saying that "igbos are everywhere". Stop creative conflict among ethnic groups with this nonsense post.

Wow! What a knowledgeable submission. Where did you get your education? Nigeria's educational system is definitely not a total failure. There are definitely no INDIGENOUS Igbos outside the SE. The Etches, Ndokis, Egbemas and the entire Delta North are only being hosted in those areas and only came to do business. Good going, genius.

Rossinnki:
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There were no ethnic groups in Nigeria prior to the colonial era.

There was nothing like a Yoruba man.

Or a Hausa man.

Or an Igbo man.

That way of identifying people simply did not exist.

Message to secessionists:

Biafra is NOT your father's history.

Even the name Biafra is Portuguese.

There was no sense of Igbo nationhood prior to the colonial era.

So the whole 'Biafra' concept - the very concept of there being an ''Igbo people'' is European-originated, oriented, and influenced.

Your ''Igbo identity'' is a Tokunbo notion, every bit as foreign as your average, dodgy 2nd-hand junk.

Prior to the colonial era, the fact that you spoke the same language as another person did not mean you were of the same ''ethnic group'', different from those who spoke a different language.

That simply was NOT how we viewed ourselves in AFRICA.

Kinship and group identity were about blood connection and lineage, which transcended languages spoken, and often involved various languages existing within the same kinship group caused inter alia, by migration and inter-marriage.

In pre-colonial times, you were not ''an Igbo person''. You were a person who spoke Igbo language. Finish.

What identified you was your clan and your village or town, and your lineage therein, not the language you spoke.

There were Igbo-speaking groups who knew their cousins that spoke Yoruba or Edo a 100 miles away, and were closer to them by lineage than to Igbo-speaking communities even in the next town.

That is how we were. It wasn't about the language you spoke.

Today, out of European-influenced modern triibalism, we find previously connected people and communities now separating themselves by language, and denying ancestral links with those who speak a different language.

ALL OF THAT IS COLONIAL-INFLUENCED.

If you don't know your history, let us, your elders tell you your history.

Every person who hates another because they are supposedly of a ''different ethnic group'' is acting out the playbook written by 18th century European colonizers who came here to divide and conquer, and is NOT following in the ways of our fathers.

Thank You.

Ummunem, onye a bu onye fulani akwuru ugwo k'obute ogbaghara n'etiti mba ndi ozo. Mana, o dara ada. You have failed. Firstly, your arguments have no leg to stand on. The colonizers didn't introduce ethnicity, they simply observed and documented it. Even before colonial times in the 1700s, Igbo slaves in the Americas already identified as Igbos (Eboe). They didn't need any white man telling them what to call themselves.
There was nothing like Germany until mid to late 19th century when the different peoples were unified by Bismarck. What you had were Bayerns, Prussians, Swabians, Sorbians etc. Was that also a "tokunbo" identity given than it was the ancient Romans who observed and documented the Alemanni or Germania ethnicity? I don't expect you to know these or have any answer to them given the kind of half baked quasi intellectuals been churned out by the conveyor belt of the "higher" institutions of the Zoo, administered by the Fulani.
A great preponderance of Igbos worldwide are beginning to wake up. The Igbo and Biafran consciousness is inexorably heading to a crescendo and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
There are now Igbos in very high places in every single country on our mother planet; Japanese Igbos, Canadian Igbos, American Igbos, German Igbos, Italian Igbos, Spanish Igbos, Finnish Igbos, Danish Igbos, Austrian Igbos etc etc. Some are mixed race and even upto the 3rd generation, but they all still retain and identify with their Igboness.
MARK MY WORDS, when Igbos finally reach a consensus(which is not too distant given the current happenings), we will push for a separate nation and if you the Fulani try once again the 67-70 debacle to stop us, you will be endangering your very existence at least in the geographic space called Nigeria. There will be nowhere to hide and nobody to come to your aid as the geopolitical and economic climate of the 60's are no longer what is obtainable. Your time and resources should be better channeled towards planning for the aftermath than being here on a faceless forum fighting a losing battle.
Be Warned!

I completely agree with everything you said except the reason you gave for establishment of Izugbe. It is for ORDER. Trust me, I enjoy speaking Mbaise so much so that except for when I speak to a non Mbaise or when I write in Igbo, I speak and think in Mbaise lmao. Nobody can erode the various lects in Igboland. Izugbe wasn't established to do that. It is just the official standard. Think of it as a unit of measurement, like the Foot. Imagine if everybody just used the length of their own feet to measure items and the ensuing chaos. This was the way it was back in the day until a consensus was reached on exactly how long a foot had to be. So, ujo atula gi. But I agree, our lects sweet pass. Oh damn, I'm going to play some abigbo later haha.

ChinenyeN:


Very true. The reason many people don't know is because Izugbe does not recognize nasalizing sounds. So, other linguists developed an expanded orthography to accommodate the different lects that nasalize. The "n" is used in the expanded one. There is also another variant that uses the tilde, so the letters look like this: s̃. So the word for "five" can be written like "isne" or "is̃e", but Izugbe does not accommodate that for us.

But anyhow, the point of Izugbe is so that you don't speak your own lect, but let us be honest. Our lects sweet pass Izugbe. We should always feel free to write our lects. It's okay if we all learn to read and write Izugbe, but we should not rob ourselves of the enjoyment that comes from reading and writing in our lects too. At least, that is what I believe. I should be able to fully enjoy both.

Aah I get it now nwunem. I'm Ahiazu and yes we nasalize. I didn't know that's how it's written lol. I can only write in Izugbe. The thing is, writing in one's dialect makes it more difficult for the larger Igbo to understand, hence defeating the aim to communicate. When I was in Germany, I swore that the Germans didn't speak German because every town seemed to have a different variation of the same word. Munchers, Swabians, Hamburgers, Berliners, Dortmunders all spoke something different lol. None spoke the standard German and if you lived in area you had better learn to understand the local dialect. However, standard German was used in schools, movies, news and official institutions, much like it is with Igbo Izugbe. They are very much like us! [Qquote author=ChinenyeN post=86411486]

The word for "five" is pronounced with deep nasalization just like the word for "thing" or "see". In writing, nasalization is expressed with the letter "n". Which part of Mbaise are you? Perhaps your dialect uses less or no nasalization, but the groups I mentioned are part of the list of communities that speak with marked nasal vowels and consonants. [/quote]

Interesting piece I must say. My only grouse is how you referred to Mbaise as Mbaisne repeatedly ( given that I'm Mbaise myself). Is there any reason why that is so? I have never seen it written that way or even pronounced that way. Or is this an extension of the whole laughable and pretentious Ikwerre masquerade like the Dikne Ohna? Please whichever be the case, just leave us out of it. You can do that with your Ngwa. We are Mbaise not Mbaisne, ka biko!

ChinenyeN:

I kula jii? Alright. I can now answer your question with great detail, so do pay attention. Anyone who researches even the slightest thing about Ngwa learns relatively quickly that we have a term for any and all things "non-Ngwa" (ohnuhnu). I do not know the story of how Ohuhu clan (of Umuahia) got it's name, so I cannot say if it is related to our own use of ohnuhnu.

Anyhow, "ohnuhnu" in Ngwa parlance has two usages. The original one refers to the name we ascribed to Ehilihita, Oke, Okwuato, Ahiara, Nguru (in short, the greater part of Mbaisne), and Alulu, Uvuru Ntu, Mbutu Okahia, Umuohiagu, Obiangwu, etc. (Ngo Okpuala) communities. There are many more communities in this cluster that can be named, but you get my point. These are the communities that we consider as part of original/ancestral kinship. This is the original Ngwa/Mbaisne cluster. Any one of the communities in this Ngwa/Mbaisne cluster that is found on the west side of the Imo is referred to as "Ohnuhnu". Any one of the communities in this Ngwa/Mbaisne cluster that is found on the east side of the Imo is referred to as "Ngwa". That is the original usage.

Overtime, new people started to make their way into this area in different waves. Considering the time period for these waves, many of them were probably refuges, fleeing the effects of the transatlantic slave trade in their area. Since the west side of the Imo (Ohnuhnu) referred to these waves of new people as "Isoma", it is likely the case that they were mostly Isu and maybe other smaller groups who may not have been Isu, but resided in the Isu cultural zone. The east side of the Imo (Ngwa) referred to these waves of new people as "ohnuhnu", because they made their way into the area from Ohnuhnu's side of the river. That is the second usage of "ohnuhnu" in Ngwa parlance.

As time went on, the colonial period came and more people from northern Igbo ethnolinguistic groups to people outside of the Igbo ethnolinguistic region started showing up to work and live in Aba, Osisioma, Isiala Ngwa, etc. The term "ohnuhnu" grew to then incorporate all these new people and now "ohnuhnu" means any and everything that is not Ngwa (and also not part of the original Ngwa/Mbaisne cluster).

As a side note: Asa, Ndoki, Etche and Ikwerre communities are not included in the "ohnuhnu" (non-Ngwa) definition. Asa and Ndoki communities can also be seen as joining in using the term "ohnuhnu" to refer to the new non-indigenes (Igbo and non-Igbo) in the area.

There. That is the story. I hope that clears it up for you. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Nwanne no be small. The worst part is that it's very easy to spot them, just read about 10 of their previous posts and you will instantly fish out the non Igboness. You see, this Igbo of a thing eh, anaghi a zu ya na ahia. E jeteghi ya na ejije. Anyi bu opuru iche. Meanwhile one gbaza queen keeps quoting them to score cheap points off their strawman arguments. O di egwu.

Eastlink:

God bless you bro. I deliberately left any discussion that pertains to Ndigbo on nairaland. Why? Because nairaland is not the place to discuss our issues that affects us. So I spend my time on close Facebook group, because you’re guaranteed that you’re discussing with your Umunne.

I laugh when I see Pazienza, Udechi, Chinenye, Horsepower, etc fall for their tricks. I know the game of the Yoruba as far as Nairaland is concerned, they sleep, eat and dream Igbos.
Over 98% monikers on this thread are non-Igbos. Why don’t they open up their thread to discuss their problems there. Theirs was deliberately kept dormant for years. Rather, you see them open Igbo thread with fake Igbo monikers, posting Igbo topics to deceive who? Themselves. Lol! We know the game.

[quote author=pazienza post=86380509]

You are dealing with non Igbos with multiple monikers replying themselves, and you can't even see through the games they are playing.
Nawa for you o! [/quote

Nwunem, I've been following this thread for some time now and I must say I admire your depth of knowledge and passion for Ndiigbo.
I ga di. Anwuchule lol. A bu m nwa Mbaise but haven't been to Nigeria for a while now. Ihe unu n'eme ebe a n'enyem obi anuri. Jisie ike. I also want to salute Eastlink, AnambraIstson, horsepower102, UdechiHD etc. Anyi g'enwe mmeri.