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Look at the Oyo that yorubas have been inventing many impossible fairytale to decieve themselves

Rostikol:
Sure. Go take your medicine. You clearly have mental issues.

Benin was a Portuguese criminal enterprise, all it's acclaimed glory lasted during Portuguese slave trade. Africa should stop deceiving themselves

Rostikol:
So, the Europeans went to ancient Benin, and rather than simply draw what they saw, they went somewhere else where someone told them something different from the reality, and they ''painted it to sell?''

Is that what you're saying?

Something is really wrong with your head.

Maybe you have mental issues, so I won't attack you much again.

They went to research on ancient Benin. Those drawing only reflect the period in mind not that they were drawn at that time

Rostikol:
What ruins?

People have built over the entire city and even expanded beyond it since 1897.

What ruins do you want to see there, 130 years after?

But photography technology must have been in place before the total building over

Rostikol:
Why would they do that when they could simply travel to Benin and draw what they saw there?

Or you don't believe Europeans visited Benin?

Researchers came and heard stories and painted it. I read a book written in 1961 by oyibo man with many impossible things about Igalas, he later acknowledge his source as the palace of Onu Ankpa. That's how it works. They come, you tell them your nonesense, they write or paint to sell

Rostikol:
There were no cameras in the 15th or 16th century, you village illiterate on drugs.

They DREW what they saw instead.

How about the ruins after British invasion?

Rostikol:
Village dropout. They are EYEWITNESS DRAWINGS.

They are not imagined.

You don't come in here and tell lies, okay, you worthless wretch.

No, they were drawn to reflect the fake story in circulation

Rostikol:
What Benin invented what stories?

See me wahala with this mor..on.

Can you even read?

Of ALL the testimonies and eyewitness accounts and drawings on this thread, NOT ONE was by a person from Benin or even from Nigeria or Africa.

All were from EUROPEAN VISITORS TO BENIN!

Are you on drugs or something, this guy?

European visitors no see anything snap?

TheSourcerer:
it's called Negativity bias , Great Thread by the way , really impressed

Thank you, while he also has "positive bias". It's all ego massaging fairytale without proof. All he has been posting are imagined paintings

Rostikol:
WHY?

Why would EUROPEANS invent fine pictures of the same Africans they were enslaving and discriminating against?

Benin invented the stories for ego massaging after Dem fall yakata when Portuguese left as slave trade ended

Rostikol:
EYEWITNESS PAINTINGS, you village dropout.

No eye witness bro. Just a researcher painting based on exaggerated stories

Rostikol:
A view of the city of Benin, Nigeria, West Africa.

Date 1846

Mary Evans Picture Library by Mary Evans Picture Library


https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/a-view-of-the-city-of-benin-nigeria-mary-evans-picture-library.jpg

https://fineartamerica.com/featured/a-view-of-the-city-of-benin-nigeria-mary-evans-picture-library.html

Paintings again. Mere imaginations. Note that date is not the date of painting but the date reflected in the painting

Rostikol:
That is a museum piece showing a small residence made with Benin architecture, you stupid peabrain.

That doesn't mean there were no larger buildings in Benin.

Damn. You're thick.

I know, you can see it's thatch and raffia palm roofing unlike your painting that looked like aluminium

LikeAking:
Stop saying nonesense like these..

The British vs a small Benin Kingdom what do you think..

Yet the Benins gave them a fight, even the bigger kingdoms/tribes could not.

Nothing concern spiritual power for war, it's a game of number, intelligence, artillery, training, skills, bravery, etc.

Benin never gave any serious fight as it was already a shadow of itself after slave trade was banned and Portuguese left. No more easy money from slave trade to maintain the criminal enterprise of the Portuguese erroneously called Benin empire

Rostikol:
Dummy dum dum. Did the vandals have artillery, bombs, guns and canon in the 3rd Century?

How the hell can you compare destruction of a city in 1897 with bow and arrow and machetes of the 3rd century?

Village dropout.

Go school you no gree.

Many buildings and bridges survived Hiroshima atomic bombs

Rostikol:
A live size replical of classical Edo Architecture of Great Benin at the museum of traditional Nigerian architecture at Jos, Plateau State, Nigeria.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/09/49/b30949e0858824695b752b357a74c83a.jpg

You can see how real picture differ from your imaginary paintings even though it was built recently

Rostikol:
A live size replical of classical Edo Architecture of Great Benin at the museum of traditional Nigerian architecture at Jos, Plateau State, Nigeria.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/09/49/b30949e0858824695b752b357a74c83a.jpg

Normal normal for the rain forest region before European contact.

Thebadpolitican:
This are Benin artitectire still found in Benin till date


People from other state laugh Benin for having this building around they call it mud houses
Saying Benin has too many mud houses around, if we yield to these words they won't Be anyone to see anymore

What you posted is normal mud house with thached roof found everywhere before European contact

Rostikol:
Benin city was invaded, destroyed, bombed and burnt down by British forces in 1897 following a heavy war that killed thousands of Benin people and led to the king being exiled.

Are you even aware of that?

What the hell do you expect to find in a city that was destroyed by bombs and canon fire over a century ago?

Story. Rome was sacked by the Vandals, Jerusalem was invaded by Nero, etc

Rostikol:
Do you know the name of the drawer?

When was it drawn? Tell us.

I think you should tell us

Rostikol:
VILLAGE DROPOUT.

Real pictures of ancient civilization are everywhere, if painting is the only thing Benin has, they should respect themselves

Rostikol:
Africa owes a village dunce like you absolutely NOTHING.

Stop posting drawings. And fabricating exaggerated stories. That's the real inferiority complex

Rostikol:
Can somebody please remove this blasted illiterate from this thread?

What a sad testament to how terribly our education system has deteriorated.

I heard they stopped teaching History in schools for some years now.

That's why we have this embarrassing caricature of an African disgracing himself here.

How brainwashed to self-hatred can you be to the point where even the colonialists' own media are reporting to you about your advanced pre-colonial civilization, and you're REJECTING it, saying ''No. My ancestors were not civilized, but primitive''?

I mean, it's just incredibly tragic the deep level of inferiority complex to which our people have sunk.

It's actually alarming.

African should tell us their 21st century achievements before laying claim to any ancient civilization. Everything Benin using to boast was made possible by the Portuguese. Every other things before Portuguese is just fairytale. Look at Alafin of Oyo palace that has claiming nonsense as if it was greater than Rome

Rostikol:
Even the English you're speaking, you're hopeless in.

''only show Imagine scenes on 15th century''

Pitifully uneducated village dunce.

''Imagined'' by whom, when, and why, please?

Frigging moro.n.

Art is all about imaginations

Rostikol:
The city was split into 11 divisions, each a smaller replication of the king’s court, comprising a sprawling series of compounds containing accommodation, workshops and public buildings – interconnected by innumerable doors and passageways, all richly decorated with the art that made Benin famous. The city was literally covered in it.

The exterior walls of the courts and compounds were decorated with horizontal ridge designs (agben) and clay carvings portraying animals, warriors and other symbols of power – the carvings would create contrasting patterns in the strong sunlight. Natural objects (pebbles or pieces of mica) were also pressed into the wet clay, while in the palaces, pillars were covered with bronze plaques illustrating the victories and deeds of former kings and nobles.

At the height of its greatness in the 12th century – well before the start of the European Renaissance – the kings and nobles of Benin City patronised craftsmen and lavished them with gifts and wealth, in return for their depiction of the kings’ and dignitaries’ great exploits in intricate bronze sculptures.

“These works from Benin are equal to the very finest examples of European casting technique,” [/b]wrote Professor Felix von Luschan, formerly of the Berlin Ethnological Museum. [b]“Benvenuto Celini could not have cast them better, nor could anyone else before or after him. Technically, these bronzes represent the very highest possible achievement.”

What impressed the first visiting Europeans most was the wealth, artistic beauty and magnificence of the city. Immediately European nations saw the opportunity to develop trade with the wealthy kingdom, importing ivory, palm oil and pepper – and exporting guns. At the beginning of the 16th century, word quickly spread around Europe about the beautiful African city, and new visitors flocked in from all parts of Europe, with ever glowing testimonies, recorded in numerous voyage notes and illustrations.


Lost world

Now, however, the great Benin City is lost to history. Its decline began in the 15th century, sparked by internal conflicts linked to the increasing European intrusion and slavery trade at the borders of the Benin empire.

Then in 1897, the city was destroyed by British soldiers – looted, blown up and burnt to the ground....

Nowadays, while a modern Benin City has risen on the same plain, the ruins of its former, grander namesake are not mentioned in any tourist guidebook to the area. They have not been preserved, nor has a miniature city or touristic replica been made to keep alive the memory of this great ancient city.

A house composed of a courtyard in Obasagbon, known as Chief Enogie Aikoriogie’s house – probably built in the second half of the 19th century – is considered the only vestige that survives from Benin City. The house possesses features that match the horizontally fluted walls, pillars, central impluvium and carved decorations observed in the architecture of ancient Benin.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Lost without trace, everything written was just imagine, it never existed not to talk of being lost. Just a sponsor article. Even Egypt still have verifiable traces

Rostikol:
15th century drawing of Benin City by ancient Dutch Visitors

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsXcvF1W4AMtd0K.jpg

The drawing itself was not drawn in 15th century but only show Imagine scenes on 15th century. Be guided

Rostikol:
Ignorant airhead. If you don't know something, ASK, instead of typing ignorant rubbish.

''The Guinness Book of Records (1974 edition) described the walls of Benin City and its surrounding kingdom as the world’s largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era. According to estimates by the New Scientist’s Fred Pearce, Benin City’s walls were at one point “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Cheops”.

Situated on a plain, Benin City was enclosed by massive walls in the south and deep ditches in the north. Beyond the city walls, numerous further walls were erected that separated the surroundings of the capital into around 500 distinct villages.

Pearce writes that these walls “extended for some 16,000 km in all, in a mosaic of more than 500 interconnected settlement boundaries. They covered 6,500 sq km and were all dug by the Edo people … They took an estimated 150 million hours ... to construct, and are perhaps the largest single archaeological phenomenon on the planet”.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace

Your link clearly said "lost without trace". Everything about it is just imaginations of things that never existed

Rostikol:
Why are you posting this?

This thread is about Benin.

We're not here to discuss the Oyo Empire, so kindly get lost.

Show us real pictures of the devastated palace during colonial era. Artwork is just imaginary

Rostikol:
The Benin Earthworks, described as the world's largest archaeological phenomenon, built with more material than was used to build the Pyramid of Giza in Egypt.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6NCv2KXEAQMtzh.jpg

These are just artistic drawing from fanciful imaginations

kokoA:
It's quite unfortunate how most of us Africans reason. We call what our forefathers practiced "JuJu" but what the white man who also brought slave trade made us believe in is called "religion". The God you talk about, who told you our forefathers don't know him? Is he a white man?

Both our God and their God were useless, the side who had better weapons won