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Gabrielshow24:
I don't know whether you are literate or not!

Don't you know the meaning of "all"?

Does "all" not encompass 💰 money?

If you are this pertinent about giving God your money I wonder how you can give God your " all"👀

Did God ask for money as tithes in the old or New Testament? Book, chapter and verse please.

What about the pledge to create 50 million jobs between 2023 to 2026?

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https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Ken4Christ:
He didn't because it will be double tithing. They already paid tithe from their major source of income. Part of the remainder is what was turned into cash.

But if anyone receive a cash gift, he ought to tithe from it.

This is why Jacob vowed before even the law was given that he will give back to God tenth of all that God will give him. He didn't exclude money from it.

Well, keep your money if you don't feel convinced. Those doing it are getting blessed by it.

Can you provide the book, chapter and verse where God requested tithes from cash gifts?

Gabrielshow24:
You are just so oblivious.
through out new testament we see the Lord stressing that the people should give God "all".

What aspect of "all" don't you understand?

Are you blind can't you see the acts of early the church?

Where did God ask for money as tithes in the old or New Testament?

Gabrielshow24:
It seems you're oblivious to my last premise!

Go and read it again if you missed it!

So you can’t show us anywhere God requested for money as tithes?

Gabrielshow24:
👀 There's hint in the new testament as regards people paying their tithes and offerings in shekels!

It's not a necessity it be food or produce.
It could anything you had!
As long as you do not deny God your substance.
And Jesus lauds those that gave their all.

I wonder how small 10% is compared to giving all👀!

Where did God request for money as tithes? Book, chapter and verse please.

Ken4Christ:
Did God not also ask for offerings of animals and farm produce?

So, if there are no farmers or herders in the church, the brethren cannot honour God with their tithes?

I believe the emphasis on money on tithe wasn't there because they already gave it in terms of their farm products and animals. So, asking for money for tithe is like paying tithe twice.

The remainder of their produce was obviously what was converted to money.

You asked if God asked for money as offering, and I showed you the book, chapter and verse.

Now can you show us the book, chapter and verse where God requested for money as tithes? 🤷

Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 makes it clear that:

1. Tithe is agroproduce, not money.
2. Tithes are meant to be eaten by the tithers.


If you disagree and insist monetary tithing is scriptural, kindly show us where God requested for money as tithes! Very simple.

AntiZikist:
Not precious stones but Californium.

Google Californium and have your mind blown.

The Sahel is filled with it.

Makes perfect sense.

Correct ticket out of sapa

Ken4Christ:
Did God also ask for monetary offerings? Why do we make comments as though the one who gives money has given more than the one who gave a lamb of one year old.

The value of the young animals and farm produce they gave under the Old Covenant is far above the value of money we give as offerings.

We don't pay tithe because of a command or instruction. Its been a practice before the law was given. God made it a part or the law to show its significant.

So, because we no longer have community of farmers and herders as it was under the Old, giving should stop?

Both tithing and offerings were done mostly with farm produce and animals. So, it's not about what is given. It's about a principle. It's a support system for the church. And it's a reasonable support system.

The government collect tax from 30% upwards and in some countries 50% to develop the country. We don't complain about it. And we don't even follow up if they actually use it for that purpose. But we are concerned about 10% for kingdom advancement. The devil is a liar.

Buhahaha… oh yes, God asked for monetary offerings.
Refer to Exodus 30 v 13-16 for where God gave the instruction through Moses;

13 This shall every man give, that goeth into the number, half a shekel, after the [a]shekel of the Sanctuary: (a shekel is twenty gerahs) 👉the half shekel shall be an offering to the Lord👈.
14 All that are numbered from twenty years old and above, shall give an offering to the Lord.
15 The rich shall not pass, and the poor shall not diminish from half a shekel, when ye shall give an offering unto the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.
16 So thou shalt take 👉the money of the redemption👈 of the children of Israel, and shalt put it unto the use of the Tabernacle of the Congregation, that it may be a memorial unto the children of Israel before the Lord, for the redemption of your lives.


Now please show us where God requested for money as tithes. Patiently waiting.

Ken4Christ:
There is nothing wrong with monetary tithing or seed sowing. The only thing that needs to be corrected is how it is administered.

Churches who collect tithes and receives seed should have budget for the poor, widows, orphans and the fatherless.

Remember, Jesus focus on giving during his earthly ministry is on the poor. And he said that we should sell our possessions and give alms. This is giving 100% compared with 10%. So, we are not even giving enough. But Pastors should stop using it primarily to buy the most expensive cars and private jets when so many in their Churches can't feed, clothe or have shelter. So, my concern is that there should be a proper and balanced administration of the tithes and seeds received.

Nothing wrong with monetary tithing? 🤷

Where did God ask for money as tithes before he blesses a gentile believer?

Why are you guys suspiciously quiet on preaching that tithes can be eaten by the tither as written in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29?

Ken4Christ:
Half truth is no truth. If you teach your audience that hell is not forever, you should be able to tell them what happens thereafter. Otherwise, you give a wrong impression that those in hell will one day be saved. And there are Christian sects that teach that. They even add that the devil will one day be saved. And they quote scriptures to back up their lies.

What about another recent doctrine where he said that God never told Noah to build an ark?

Abel Damina is teaching so many false doctrines. He is also a grace preacher who believes in once saved, forever saved. This is another doctrine from the pit of hell. If he doesn't repent, God will judge him.

Is he also a heretic for preaching against monetary tithing and the transactional gospel of seed sowing?

Awww so touching. You’re human, but the bolt driver is a monkey and a rat you can make to disappear.

You’re only remorseful because the incident was recorded and generated a backlash beyond your expectations.

Spare us the hypocrisy

Talks and more talks

Things dey occur ooo

Agege Pencinema in the “house of God”

I say things dey occur ooo. More juicy updates in the coming days.

Nothing remains hidden forever o

MrRichmond:
The same way Nigerians will never learn how to pick their leaders properly.

Mumu country.

I tell you.

Just watch how Ganduje and Ikpeazu will be president in 2031 and 2039

Saviourk:
Funny enough, most gullible and greedy Nigerians will jump into it.

Normals, Nigerians will never learn

Too bad. Met his demise for chasing his daily bread

Can you provide a constructive update on the progress of Tinubu’s eight point agenda from August 29, 2023 till date?


1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026.

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Ttalk:
You should be ashamed of yourself rather than making excuses.

He provided you with record that Tinubu has increased ECA that was depleted in the day of boom while Jonathan was president.

That point is enough for a sensible person to maintain decorum

I should be ashamed for calling out someone’s bias and partiality? How do you guys reason?

Now please tell us, how much did the APC government borrow from foreign institutions from 2015 till date hmmm?

Oh wait, lemme also guess. Buhari increased the ECA too while borrowing upandan like his life depended on it abi? 🤷

kunle4toyeyaho:
Is the matter not about Jonathan's govt?Is Jonathan not the president as at 2014? You should even be ashamed I provided an incontrovertible evidence that Asiwaju is repaying loan obtained by GEJ.Why is it so difficult for you to use your brain when the need arises?

But why were you quiet on the loans taken by Obasanjo and Yar’Adua hmmm?

Oh… are you also telling us the foreign loans taken by Buhari’s government are not being repaid too hmmm?

kunle4toyeyaho:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/fg-repaying-69-loans-obtained-by-ex-presidents-wbank-declares/&ved=2ahUKEwi4peOi7LGJAxX5VUEAHToWN28QFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0PwRxqHTDyb3pSgt7PPHeW

Thanks for proving my point. Loud on Jonathan, but quiet on his predecessors

kunle4toyeyaho:
Asiwaju giving instructions to Amaechi & Oshiomhole? Those people were Governors in their own right. Does Amaechi look like someone who can be instructed to take such decisions?you lied.
If the economy was so good under GEJ as you posited,Why did our foreign reserve got depleted from $43b to $28b despite the boom in oil revenue? The same Asiwaju you are castigating now is busy repaying loans obtained by GEJ and has also managed to raise our foreign reserve to $40billion.

Asiwaju is busy repaying loans obtained by GEJ? Why not include Yar’Adua, Obasanjo and Abdulsalami Abubakar?

Wasn’t she the one that exposed the foreign loans scam where the financiers and government agents have their cut of the loans?

nasbiafra:
at least fire nation prosperhe should be called scar because pridelands no prosper under scar

😁😁😁

Asiwaju the firelord

Very soon you will hear them tell you that Satan was casted out of heaven because he touched the tithe.

Preciousgirl:
Is the book of Enoch from God!
Why is it not canonized?

I think it’s in the Ethiopian bible. The oldest bible in the world.

Prayers

BigDawsNet:
I am really good at finances


All my bills are outstanding

I had a good laugh 😹

Nice one

Another $1.5 billion quietly swallowed by the cabal under the guise of “turn around maintenance”

Another day to reflect on the futility of tribalism.

You did not choose the tribe you were born into.

Wake up