₦airaland Forum

Dear Jagaban lovers,

What is the progress update on Tinubu’s eight point agenda he promised Nigerians in 2023? This is over one year now. How far?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

What about the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026? How many has Tinubu and his government created?

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Hmmm

obi4eze:
Please list the 4 with valid points and not propaganda...

I am patiently waiting please...

Forget it, the jagaban lovers know this government has delivered none of those points.

I will keep on asking to expose these sycophants and for posterity sake.

Dear Jagaban lovers,

What is the progress update on Tinubu’s eight point agenda he promised Nigerians in 2023? This is over one year now. How far?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

What about the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026? How many has Tinubu and his government created?

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Religion is a sweet business.

Walk in the spirit. Stay away from religion, it’s fraud.

Tribal card can’t distract people from the failures of the government to meet its promises.

Dear Jagaban lovers,

What is the progress update on Tinubu’s eight point agenda he promised Nigerians in 2023? This is over one year now. How far?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

What about the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026? How many has Tinubu and his government created?

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Dear Jagaban lovers,

What is the progress update on Tinubu’s eight point agenda he promised Nigerians in 2023? This is over one year now. How far?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

What about the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026? How many has Tinubu and his government created?

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Time will tell

BeigJawnson:
You said we shouldn't tithe with money? So giving to the poor in Mathew 25 vs 31-46 is not tithing?

Giving to the poor in Matthew 25 v 31-46 is honouring the Lord, as you’re doing it to Christ himself.

BeigJawnson:
So by giving to the poor, we are tithing right? And such tithing must be based on crops and farm produced, yearly just as it is stated in Deuteronomy right?

In Matthew 25 v 31-46, by giving and showing compassion to least of the brethren is how you honour the Lord with your wealth.

What you do the least, you do to Christ himself.

BeigJawnson:
So indirectly we are to tithe by giving the poor our crops and farm produce as Christians right?

Where did Christ mention tithe in Matthew 25 v 31-46?

BeigJawnson:
Matthew 25:31-46
[31]“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory.
[32]All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
[33]And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34]Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35]for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;
[36]I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
[37]“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink?
[38]When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You?
[39]Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
[40]And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
[41]“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
[42]for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink;
[43]I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
[44]“Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’
[45]Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’
[46]And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Giving to the poor is also part of doing God's stuff...
So is it a sin to give to churches? Or to contribute to churches?

I never said it is a sin to give to churches nor contribute.

I am saying lying on God to twist the scriptures and deceive people into monetary tithing is disingenuous and fraudulent.

BeigJawnson:
Answer my question before I read Acts 15...
Answer me slowly ....

Read the post above yours slowly

BeigJawnson:
How can I honour God with my wealth?

Okay, God's laid down tithing rule according to your ideology is to tithe with crops. Now, as a Christian and not a farmer, how can I tithe?

To honour God with your wealth as a Christian. Read Matthew 25 v 31-46.

What you do unto the least of your brethren you do unto Christ.

BeigJawnson:
How can I honour God with my wealth?

Okay, God's laid down tithing rule according to your ideology is to tithe with crops. Now, as a Christian and not a farmer, how can I tithe?

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from Christians?

Read Acts 15 slowly, your answer is there.

Amerengues2:
Please, quote me when he answers your very good questions to him. They will look and look away pretending not to see it.

Money was in use when they tithe then, why do we still tithe in money and not in food? I am just wondering if we all tithe in food today and bring it to church....the pastors would fume and want it in cash which wasn't the original item to be tithe. It means food item as tithe wouldn't have made them financially rich.

No single pastor has ever said "Let's eat our tithe today". What they do is cherry pick the ones that suits them.

The guy replying you has limited knowledge

No reasonable answers so far

BeigJawnson:
So you want to remove money from the meaning of wealth?


Are you okay?

If you like tithe with crops yearly...

Mind you, I ain't a farmer...

Just stay glued with your ideology and leave mine to me...

Awww, so you’re implying God must be dumb to limit tithing to crops and livestock when He gave the instructions on tithing? God was blind to the fact money existed when he laid out the instructions?

How can you honour the Lord with your wealth when you choose to disobey His laid out instructions? Please explain.

Are you honouring the Lord by not eating your tithe?

BeigJawnson:
You haven't answer my question...
Proverbs 3:9 (NIV) says, “Honor the Lord with your wealth,

This verse says I can honor the Lord with my wealth ... Is it a sin to honor God with my wealth?

Does it say honour the Lord with monetary tithes?

Honour the Lord with your wealth by all means.

It still doesn’t change the way God specifically laid out the instructions for tithing. Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29.

Do things the way God wants it, not by your way or manmade traditions.

BeigJawnson:
Okay it is a sin... Okay support with bible verse...

I have support my own with bible verse

Can you just let me be tithing in peace and carry your mentality elsewhere...?

Lol

I can honor God with my wealth

Proverbs 3:9 (NIV) says, “Honor the Lord with your wealth,

It is not my mentality. Do things the way God wants it to be done.

Also, remember when a tither eats his tithe. He’s obeying God. And obedience is honouring the Lord.

Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29

22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year.
23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always.
24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away),
25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose.
26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice.
27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.



WHY ARE PASTORS NOT TEACHING THAT EATING TITHE IS SCRIPTURAL?!

BeigJawnson:
Stop dodging my questions. Answer my question ... Is it a sin to give God from my increase in wealth?

It is a sin to disobey God’s laid down instructions and do things your own way.

Did God request for money as tithes?
Do you know you are disobeying God if you don’t eat your tithes? Hmmm?

BeigJawnson:
Yeah God is not asking for money .... He is asking for crops to tithe right?

So to tithe with money is a sin? So It is a sin to honor God with my increase? Either with wealth or crops?

Very good. When God instructs something be done in a particular way, but you insist on doing it your own way, what is that called?

BeigJawnson:
Deuteronomy 14:22
[22]“You shall truly tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces year by year.

I ain't dodging anything ...

So since it seems from you now that tithing is a sin to God, should we now stop tithing and start tithing to devil?

When God laid out the instructions for tithing, where did God request for money?

BeigJawnson:
Hahahahaha I can't laugh... Since we don't need the ten commandments, then let's tear the old testament away from the bible...

And let us tell God, that He didn't do well for given the ten commandments to lay emphasis on law....
So Cain was a Christian?

Rheuben was also a Christian that folllwoed the law by nature?


I thought you will mention a Christian that followed the law by nature ...
Lol


Mtcheeeew

I love your reasoning. Should we also tear away the 613 laws of Moses from the bible too?

Get up to speed. Reuben and Cain are examples to tell you they lived well before the 10 commandments were given to Moses. They didn’t need the 10 commandments to know murder and adultery is evil. They had their conscience to help them distinguish good from evil.

But guess what? You just embarrassed yourself asking us if Cain and Reuben were Christians. You are a clown.

BeigJawnson:
Proverbs 3:9 (NIV) says, “Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the first fruits of all your crops.”

Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.


SO ALSO SHOW ME WHERE TITHING IS CONDEMNED IN THE BIBLE BY GOD?

God laid out instructions for what specifically should be tithed in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29. Why are you dodging from it?

BeigJawnson:
And did I say it was given to the gentiles? And since it wasn't given to the gentiles ... Is it right for a Christian to Kill or commit adultery?

I am asking ...cos same verse you quoted said by nature the gentiles follow the law...

On the bolded, go back and read your own words “where did gentiles got the law”?

Killing or committing adultery has always been evil before the 10 commandments were given.

Cain did not need 10 commandments to know it was wrong to kill Abel. Cain has a conscience right?

Reuben did not 10 commandments to know it was wrong to sleep with his father’s concubine.

Christians do not need 10 commandments to distinguish good from evil. Christians have conscience right?


So what is the point you’re making with the 10 Commandments? 🤷

BeigJawnson:
Tithing is not meant for God to answer you... God is supreme ... Many gives to God to appreciate Him in their lives .... 10percent is too small for God... Do you get that.?

Many gives more than the 10%.... So who are you to say it is not right when God Himself didn't condemn tithing?

10% of what exactly did God request as tithe?

Book, chapter and verse please

BeigJawnson:
And where did God condemned tithes as you are condemning it right now... You said nice try ?

Where is tithing labelled a sin by God or the Apostles....

Let me tell you, I don't PAY tithes... I GIVE tithes...

Mr man, show us where God requested for money as tithes.

Since you insist on tithing, open the scriptures and show us where God asked for money as tithe in the instructions for tithing.

BeigJawnson:
Romans 2:14-15
[14]for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,
[15]who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them

The Gentiles who do not have the law, by nature do things in the law...

By nature gentile do the things in the law...
So what are the things in the law?
Where do the gentiles got the law?

Was the law ever given to the gentiles to start with?

Also read slowly, it says gentiles by nature “do things” in the law. Means they did some things in the law. Not that they kept the entire 613 laws of Moses.

Read slowly and understand. The gentiles have a conscience that could help them distinguish good from evil. That’s the point.

BeigJawnson:
For example the 10 commandments given during the time of Moses, we shouldn't follow it as Christains too cos the Apostles were not given abi?

I am not digressing?

Please show me where tithing is a sin?

If you can't show me then piss off.

Pastorpreneurs are not my problem .... They awaits God's judgement... Not mine judgement or yours...

Before God gave the 10 commandments, how did people distinguish good from evil? Your answer is in Romans 2 v 14-15

Ah… so the narrative has shifted to “show me where tithing is a sin”. Mr tithe collector, show us where

1. God requested for money as tithes. If you can’t then you are a liar and a thief. And that is a sin. You can’t disobey God and do the things the way you want.

2. Why are pastorprenuers suspiciously quiet on the fact that tithers can actually eat their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 23-27

3. Where did Jesus and the Apostles make tithing a requirement for believers under the new covenant?!

If you can’t answer these questions, then it’s clear you are a liar and a thief.

BeigJawnson:
Thou shall not commit adultery and the other 9 commandments were not given during the time Christianity started ... So by your own ideology, Christians are not meant to follow them ... Lol

Cos tithing also started before Christianity started... You well?

Nice try. Now read Romans 2 v 14-15. Even the gentiles knew the difference between good and evil without the need for Jewish laws.

Where did God, Jesus or the Apostles request tithes from believers under the new covenant?

Where in the scriptures did God request for money as tithes?

BeigJawnson:
You are looking for the word tithe...

Keep looking for it ... Even Jesus never condemned tithing but condemned the hypocrisy of the pharisees...

Can you tell me what is the "other undone"

23] Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Can you explain the verse... Bible scholar... The other ones you didn't explain but beating around the bush ...

Also show me where the apostles were against tithing ....?

Are the Pharisees and Scribes also Christians? Are they under the new covenant?

Does the new covenant require Christians to tithe?

Did God request for money as tithes in either the old or New Testament?

Can you explain Hebrews 13 v 10 for us please?
10. We have an altar from which those who minister at the tabernacle have no right to eat.


Why are pastorpreneurs suspiciously quiet on the fact that God permits tithers to eat their tithes? Deuteronomy 14 v 23-27