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if you think every jew is a fake, as i have said before, i know you have not met any jew in your entire life. period.

to discuss with an ignorant, one will surely lose the debate. you have demonstrated that here.

i remember its your type of mindset that necessitated my exit. it is frustrating this is what my beloved motherland breeds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0RynPuaxms



even if no jew ever accepted Islam, does that affirm that the messenger [SA} is not a messenger of God?

did the idol made and worshiped by the children of Israel prove that Moses [AS] was not a prophet {AS]?

does disbelief disprove true belief?



today someone called to tell me a man buried 18 years prior was exhumed and moved because his son in london who was a christian dreamt that his father was saying he didn't like where he was and he should be moved to a different location. the lady dreamed about this few times for about 2 years and earlier last year or this year she was in their hometown of abeokuta to act on it.

of course the muslim leadership supervised it not knowing what was going to be found. the woman saw her late father's shroud as clean as the day he was buried and she immediately right there made wudu [aluwala] and entered islam. the soil has not dirtied the cloth or was the man been touched by anything. this is not the first time they said it happened in abeokuta and other parts of yoruba land and indeed the world over. every companion [sahabah] RA that was ever exhumed had been fresh as if he just died, in spite being in the grave for 13 or 14 centuries, already.


finally, i was told that a viral video of a non muslim dane/danish who was mistakenly assumed dead and only 2 days in the grave, when the grave keepers heard his voice was found already lost part of his body to worms and maggots and he had noticeably shrunk.

the 2 above is illustration of evidences of those are sincere in accepting and worshiping Allah contrasted to those that don't.


i pray i am in the rank of the former and not the latter.




unfortunately, you know nothing about Abraham. he had one faith and it ain't judaism or christianity. this is very clear.

@Maximum69; i broke my own rule because of the video below;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHz4eNssQYw





however, i saw you smirking against the jewish rabbi. of course you haven't seen anyone of them before. your leaders in america [including the american that started your brand of christian sect, jw] will not misbehave like you have done in front of the jews. trust me and i can mention few; pastor haigee cowered to rabbi lapzig who was austee originally from his accent. dr. william craige or dr james white is another. the heartbeat of christendom is the usa that finances it with flush monies from the bible belt. so if the american whites and those at the pulpits of the megachurches can't be condescending to the jews, you can see that you are fairing worse because you have done what your benefactors will not dare to do.


you are not contrived that they say you are a pagan, an idolator. i get it. Islam speaks the truth since the evil one has been turn loose on the disbelievers [include those that says Allah has a son].

@maximus69: i bet you never have spoken to a jewish rabbi, before, assuming you are in nigeria and it will be pretty hard for you to find them out there. even if you were to be in uk, usa, canada, you will not be able to just walk up to one to strike up a conversation. i have had may jews as personal friends and i have been to their homes and been to their annual gathering. they will entertain me on their sabbath. rabbis, at least 1 was a personal friend. let me stop there to go to what you do not know and very important on the world stage about Islam.

no jew that is worth the name will say Islam is paganic, while they will easily say christianity is idolatry and i will support my statements with videos and i hope you have the strength to listen to words spoken. everything you claim for Jesus, if the muslims don't say it is so, the jews ain't gonna say different from what the muslims say. your God is different from the God of the Muslims and the jews.


Islam is the oldest religion, says this rabbi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIh7TcrZRA





Islam is the religion of all the prophets, says jewish rabbi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Rgr3GtHF0





The jewsih man talks about the prophet and Islam, in spite of not entering it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cUqPGXlMn0





Jewsih man thank God that achristian converts to Islam and Muhammad [SA] is the one who is like Moses [AS], it isn't Jesus [AS].


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I49sRl8DbyU






Islam is true religion, says this rabbi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAehGSQ5h8s



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTovp1CFZw





Islam and muslims are blessed says the rabbi in front of the pastor.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpK9Y8V15Fw






Jew says Allah is The True One God:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zyICBKBPI






Rabbi says christianity is idolatry:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxm26c4rklk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P2miTZCsno






Trinity busted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt9JZ8iAU5s




i bet you will be able to navigate the maze called internet and find many more videos and i pray that your heart e restored to a believing one before what stops heart from beating comes to you. Amin. i a done here and i will not respond to anything since you did not even approach my 1 Purest Master of a servant to 3 masters to a servant and let us see which one of the group of Masters is Supreme and has not equal and which servant has a singular master to serve? it will not be the 3 master and a servant combo because there is no way the 3 can be in same time talking and deciding. from the Bible we see that only One talks and decides andd the other 2 just carry out orders to show that the 2 acting as subordinates are not God but you have made them Gods anyway which is a complete error.

@maximus69: did you leave Islam for christianity because of logic and discard other sects of christianity with logic when you settled on JW? that 2 segmented logic i will like to hear since 1 Absolute Master is superior to 3 equal Masters, rendering each of the them not absolute, in reality incomplete. this to me disqualifies christianity and the christians will disqualify your JW with already sold former Brookly headquarters in Dumbo now a condo, for the most part.

no one can be in 3 separate cars at the same time. and no 3 different cars even on the same road at the same time be misunderstood as 1 car. if each is one a different road, we can claim that they are all one car, arriving at the same time to a destination being driven by a single driver.

@Maximum69. Below is what you said in quote on June 27 at 5.22pm in response to abdulgaffar.

It's you now that's trying to say 'this is the theory that i'm used to, so give me this theory first' whereas your theory has been in existence for almost 1,500 years now. Yet it has not been able to unite adherents as one happy global family of worshipers! Unless you can present a Muslim group that's benefiting from the Islamic theories and it's applications globally! All we know about Islam is the theory {Quran and sharia} the application {zaqat} but there is no benefit for adherents other than telling them 'you'll go to heaven'! undecided

just explain to me zaqat in the context you have used it. you claim to be have been muslim aferetime. i just wanna see how true zaqat is in your usage of application.

@maximus69: the issue of faith, religion and everlasting is very diverse, indeed deeper that just 1 issue. i came to this topic, seeing that you made many incorrect statements and not all of them pointed to a single strand of the entire conversation.

i asked you to tell me if you know when arabs lived in any of the 4 'arab' powers you mentioned. you haven't done that because you may or may not know that when those powers existed as rulers of empires, civilizations, the arabs were not part of it. egyptian pharaoh era is a good example because they were black people from africa, not across the red sea. you can say after the fall of pharaoh, suddenly egyptians were arabs, instead of nubians. assyrians were not arabs as arabs know it. persia is iranian, afghanistans, etc and definitely not arabs, even now. i used the christian iraqi Adadas to illustrate to you that even just before isra wa Miraj when the Taif incident happened, iraq was not an arab state.

by the way you said Zaqat and you never address the issue as i want to know what do you mean by it in the context you used it?

finally, i am contributing in support of the argument of he person who started the thread. i didn't want you guys to gang up on him. without seeing any cheerleader. i am a cheerleader here and that does not mean i can't have something to say. you just have to pick what you want address instead of complaining that i am discussing more than 1 issue. you do talk and walk at the same time, right?

@maximum69: Islam under Muhammad [SA] began in 610 CE and began its spiritual dominance in particular regions in 623 the year of the Hijra. tell me when these places became arab nations, since you said you used to be muslim and the incidence of Taif, which is one of the most difficult event, as per the statement of the prophet [SA] happened to him?
the first four world powers were Arabs :
Egypt
Assyrians {southern Iran}
Babylon {Iraq}
Persia and Medes {northern Iran alliance with orients}

I am almost certain you will not know it because Adadas from the region of Iraq was an Iraqi christian servant in Taif tending the 'grape farm' vineyard of his Makka masters to witness the incidence. His statement [RA] who latter became a companion, while still a christian to what he heard the prophet [SA] say tells me that none of these places at least Iraq was arab and could not have been arab civilization. the arabs were unlettered and you couldn't muster a civilization to become world power unless you master the the element of superiority of your time. in this case it was writing, art, etc which the arabs lacked all.

i am going to go on a limb here and say you are just writing for the sake of saying something and that is truly lack of emotional discipline. i can see why you left islam for christianity in general and jw in particular. there is no spiritual insight in what you have done. you lost in reality the light of guidance. sincerely. May Allah opened your eyes and make your heart alive, again. Amin.


There is no need for us to talk about the power of the western countries, specifically that of america that is driving the present day narrative for many reasons. do not believe the hype which is why you left islam. i have a 'dog in the fight' and i probably stand a better chance on the matter. nothing is exactly what it is seems to people looking at it from afar. the law may protect the individuals in a general sense. but what drives the agenda is what drives it. often religion is not totally separated from the affairs of the 'state/s", nations.

the america of 'Trump dogma" looks more christian than that of Obama. while 2nd Bush fought under the ideologue of crusade, Obama opened up gay advancement. the era of President Trump say conservatism that in my own opinion is tunnel vision. saying no abortion at all irrespective of the situation of the mother and pregnancy is not looking at the total picture.

obviously, you don't know much about the arabs. arabs for a slice of bread will throw their own mother under the bus, politically. so the arabs are not what Islam is. Islam has its own agenda; God is 1 and His Name is Allah. He is Al Rahman. Worship Him alone. Yes. Islam may love/strive to open you up to 'discover' it. but no one can force anyone to accept or reject matter of the heart; your position with God.

as to practicality, Islam beats every ideology, religion, way, path. it is a means of solving the issues and problems of individuals, groups, societies, indeed mankind and creation.any problem, Islam has its solution be it homelessness, etc, etc to being extremely affluence. it keeps you grounded, focused, realizing it is a phase, a test and if you are God conscious, it will pass, definitely death will remove you from it.


freedom of speech is not absolute in america, though it is close to it. and so is each on your list.

@Abdulgaffae; salaamualaykum and may Allah make your iman stronger and not diminish. amin. stay strong. i used to do this over a decade ago on this platform. i will not continue now. but i want to engage maximus69 for a minute and that's all.

@Maximus69; if your brand of christianity is the correct one, then all the hordes of mankind in christianity that passed before JW began in USA less than 200 years ago are all doomed. this doomed include all the disciples, apostles, indeed Paul. are you okay with that? since Jesus himself was jewish and his religion was not judaism, are you okay with all jews being doomed as well?

please focus, since the bible declares that salvation is of the jews to mean if you accept my proposition, you have gone against the bible itself. in lieu of the above, i wonder what you base your claim upon, when Jesus had a God? the word messiah is neither indication that it means God or savior, except it means wiped, rubbed, anointed. definitely the One Who wiped, rubbed, anointed him must be in control of his existence, hence He sent him as a messenger to nations of children of Israel.

if the fruit is how you know the tree is, fruit of Islam is head and shoulder better in morality, reliance on God, indeed reverence to God. i often wonder and in your case if you don't consider your leaving Islam as a matter of convenience because if becomes a bare hand hold on to red hot charcoal?

while i will nor compare the 2 prophets [AS], however, it is your claim that Jesus started your religion in general. this is not true because his religion is not different from that of Adam [AS] and all the prophets before him [AS] or the religion completed upon Muhammad [SA]. this is Islam in its particulars, in its core. God is One and He is complete and did not leave anyone to its own invention of of His worship. He laid out a fundamental principle; I am 1, your Lord, your Mater, your Sustainer, Who you should worship and do not desist in relying on Me.

people leave a way and it is not to proof the superiority or inferiority of what is the new way or the old way. i am talking to an ibibio your woman now who is seeking Islam and can't help herself about this. i just gave her the wording of the 2 shahadah, just less than 2 hours ago. it has nothing to do with romance, except Allah soften her heart knowing fully how much she wants to obey Him.

you said zaqat. what is zaqat if it is not charity? in your usage please tell me what you meant?

it is easy for Allah to remove hypocrites from the fold of Islam and replace them with better sould in larger number or same amount. so i am not surprised those that turned Islam to culture leave it, including the arabs, hausas, etc and replace them with igbos, yankees, etc of many hues.

finally, the word infidel coined from infidelity does not have a direct translation of any arabic word as disbeliever means kafiri. but when the enemies of islam pushed the word hard and long enough on Islam, even the muslims are using it, while it at least appears once or more on the pages of the bible.

the miracles of Muhammad [SA] includes nations having their spiritual inner eyes, the heart open and purified and make thir physical regenrated from filth to purity. It is Islam and it is not based on blind and illogical arguments.