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Good job, Kilode?!

RIP, Sir.

naptu2: Why would people introduce bigotry into this discussion? Professor Achebe was not perfect, but he achieved a lot and is recognised all over the world. Every Nigerian, nay, every black man shares in the glory of what he achieved. Why would some want to denigrate him at this time when we should be honouring his memory?

I wonder oo. It beggars description, I tell ya.

Tpia. Haba!

slimyem: I would definitely not dispute him as amongst the top 5 if that was what was posted.
Like you said,Its debatable!
Very!

Most likely the most renowned, I tell ya.

Ha!
RIP, Sir!

Achebe the great. Bye!

OMG!
Junkies galore

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293417/Shocking-moment-30-drug-addicts-run-dealers-car-pulls-playground.html

Sixth man to do so in past month.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296544/Bulgarian-man-sixth-man-past-month-set-protest-poverty-country.html

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OAM4J: lol

Abeg make you help me find my friend Katsumoto o.

He's busy working on Catalonia's new constitution.
It's a huge contract.

AjanleKoko: More like 100% actually.

1992 - 2 months.
1993 - 5 months.
1994 - 5 months, all the way till January '95.
1996 - 6 months
2001 - 3 months
2003 - 6 or 7 months (i forget)
2007 (or 2009, not sure) - 6 months.

That is the one I can remember.

During Ali Must Go riots, were they not closed.
I'm not sure but I think it happened in the 70s.
Did students lose some weeks/months or not?

wtf!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289516/Now-Gangnams-seven-year-old-Psy-dekick-goes-global-Boy-starred-YouTube-sensation-records-OWN-dance-rap.html

[quote author=Kilode?!]Sadly, I was a victim too. In one of the years up there, mine lasted for over 9 months.

I'm still in therapy and recovery [/quote]

coogar: ajanlekoko is always visiting bars pretending to watch barcelona.

20% football talks, 80% legging up talks!

He's always in Spain; like bi-monthly .

He has an office there, well, probably.

What happens in Spain Catalonia stays in Spain Catalonia

[quote author=_babyshaQ]WTH are you talking about following your recent posts, I seriously doubt that you wrote the original post, You are NOT John Chikadibie Okafor. How on earth did you go through school? if you didn't review some past questions before an exam or you never asked seniors what to expect in an exam or better still, you didn't use past questions to prepare for aptitude tests. If you did, by your analysis, you cheated and should have your certificate revoked. You should blame the gods or your villagers for your misfortune and not others for being inquisitive and smart. Networking isn't illegal and is practiced the world over. I think Jarus is just wasting his internet Kbs on responding to your recent posts. Also, NB: What you believe in goes a long way in determining an outcome and I would rather believe jobs are gotten on merit than otherwise till I get one than vice versa.[/quote]Just ignore this guy.
Why the insult?

Jarus: I think this guy has provided you answer:



I never had contact with my interviewer BTW.

We are just teasing you, man

Emperoh: You might as well say that a PEST analysis is trial and error.
Cost of stock are basically a fall out of people's behaviour in response to a company's performance in the market.
Political, Economic, Social and Technological issues are assessed before you do business in a country. The same goes to the stock market.
It is not trial and error!!

What is special about this PEST Analysis thing?
Often, they are not even sure. They call it PEST today, PESTL tomorrow and before you say Jack Robinson, they say it's PESTEL.
Even pepper sellers do it, they just don't formalize it by writing it and putting spiral holes in it.
Why do you think they display their articles on the roadside and not their living room?

The whole thing is over hyped jare

[quote author=Rhino.5dm]Finally, we seems to be on thesame page. I see nothing wrong in helping people I know.[/quote]
They call it something fanciful and whimsical (networking), you call it "helping others". Same thing jare

coogar: jarus - you are hereby found guilty of networking/legging up/backdooring and paddying.

Your uncle teaches your class in your secondary school, he informs the class about his mid-term test. A day before this test, he calls you in at home; tells you to open your book; starts coaching you about his subject. He chooses 1 or 2 topics (say algebra); gives you questions to answer; marks them and corrects your mistakes.

You go in for the test, and, ooops, same or similar questions stare at you.

If this isn't a leg-up, Nairalanders, please, tell me, what is it?
#networking/legging up/backdooring and paddying tinz

coogar: it's networking in plain english but it's "paddy know paddy" in pidgin english. the moment you network, you have the unfair advantage unless you put the information you get from such relationships to public use and give every applicant am equal chance.

jarus - you are hereby found guilty of networking/legging up/backdooring and paddying.

And for obtaining information for the purpose of gaining unfair advantage.


Guilty. Take him to the slaughter slab

AjanleKoko: I think Brits have that problem. Just like in football, they are always crying about 'cheating, bla bla'. But they never win anything
Americans on the other hand know that networking is key

Throwing jab, abi?

coogar: and you don't think these points give you an unfair advantage over your counterparts seeking the same job? if this isn't a leg up, then what is it? you meet people who tell you this is what you should expect, this is what XYZ loves hearing in oral interviews and blah blah blah and you don't think this is like seeing "expo" before an exam? how many job applicants do you think have access to this kind of information? i can assure you they are less than 1%.

LMAO.

Jarus: Good.

But it sometimes goes beyond that, especially as one progresses in career, from operational activities to tactical level.

For operational routines, yes, every Joe may be able to do that. But at a stage the job will go beyond that. Some decisions are tactical and unstructured, and you may not have a template for them. That is when the 'dullard' begins to fall apart. I'm not saying this also corresponds to school degree (a 2.2 may even edge out a First when it gets to this stage and even have a career progress, but a mechanical dullard will find it difficult when it gets to this level. This supports why a company will not want to hire a dullard in the first place - even at that operational level a seondary school pupil can do, because of long run.

At the level we are discussing on this thread, most of the complainants here would cope well. They are graduates and they are capable.

coogar: that's the twist about this whole thing.....

there's no job i have done that i wouldn't have coped with as a secondary school graduate - what i am trying to say is it would take the dumbest of a dimwit not to cope with any job regardless of his grade in the university. they make you go through all those hoops and when that dream job lands on your lap, you are basically checking the pressure and the temperature of a pump every 1 hour and you are getting paid £500 per day for it. tell a junior secondary school student to do that and he would certainly do it without stress.

that line of argument is a bit lame to claim no organisation would hire a dullard. every graduate who can read and write would cope in most organisations. 90% of the tasks are common sense. a bit of in-house training is included too so it's impossible for any graduate of any discipline not to cope with the tasks required. under the cover of this, applicants of all kinds slip through the system.

Thank you. I don't know what is special about these jobs anyway. What exactly do most bankers in Nigeria do? Apart from backroom staff, you can do exactly what they do on your own in a place like the UK with access to Online Banking and Pinsentry.

Engineers are in banks. Some of them didn't know about the laws of demand and supply, the meaning of debit/credit before they got in. And, they are coping well.

AjanleKoko: Bolded is the point.

Abi nau. Captain Wales got extended leave. He went to attend to his Sentabele charity. he also went to an exclusive Swiss Alps for his skiing needs. His colleagues are slugging it out in Afghanistan. Talk about being on a pedestal

seanet02: But this is not fair. My fingers are only versed in Words like yibhoe, Igbo, ighoe, Igbo, yeabo, yabo and yehbo. How can you now tell me to go and learn new words

Bad boi.


Afam, Seanet needs you. Ban him

Emperoh: Ola One,

It will be totally incorrect to assume that networking is about bribing and contacting with a Senator or sleeping with an Alhaji to get an NNPC of ministry job.

I am against nepotism as far as it concerns doing some corrupt actions to get hired for a job you most certainly are not qualified for.

Regardless of how you get a job, it is only how good you are that keeps you in it. No serious minded organisation will employ and keep anyone who isn't adding to the bottom line of the organisation through his/her area of expertise or whatever you are hired for.

The idea of getting a job through you network is never bad. You know someone, that's as far as it can get sometimes. You need to prove to the interview panel how your presence can add to the bottom-line and how your activities can help it grow. If you can't ace an interview, how has the network helped?

Some contacts go as far as ensuring you scale through all the hurdles but eventually, if you were prodded in, you will be lifted our in due course.

But i still maintain, a high percentage of Private sector jobs are on merit!!!

Well, maybe you're right. All I know is life is not fair. It has never been. That is the way it is.
Hardwork still pays but connection makes things easier. My 2 cent
Cheers.

Jarus: I'm just imagining who they bribed. Definitely not the school proprietress (a multi-millionaire) for a N20,000 per month teaching job, recruitment for which she supervised herself. Just wondering if the entire lifetime salaries of the teacher will be enough to bribe my toughie primary school owner.

Sorry, I meant govt-owned school. I thought you're an ajepako like me who attended public school.

Jarus: So it is common practice worldwide that 90% of jobs are on man-know-man?

It isn't 90% in the UK, I'm sure. But, I can't vouch for Nigeria.

In the UK, children of the rich and powerful go for top jobs only. Nick Clegg is an example. He said this about his first job.
But, in Nigeria, you need to bribe one way or the other to get hired at any level. Even in your primary school in Offa, I'm sure most teachers there lobbied one way or the other to get in.


Look at it this way, Jarus, you spent about 3 years at Oando, yet you were powerful enough to get a friend in. Now, assuming you sticked with the same company for 20 years, I'm sure you would be powerful enough to recruit your beloved "great Ife" (you dont miss any thread about OAU on NL ) graduates without any tests. .

What is the main essence of LinkedIn? What actually does "networking" mean? Why do we say Oxbridge, Harvard graduates get the best jobs through alumni this or that.
They don't have to write the tests for you. Shortlisting you alone represents a leg-up, trust me.


Also, and I'm not joking here, we must be careful of OAU graduates in Nigeria. They have this camaraderie, this oneness about them. And, they have a way of shortlisting their uni graduates and getting them in wherever they are. They do it regularly. Isn't that a leg up?


But people must accept one thing and stop whining: life isn't fair. So, get on with it.

Cheers

The way some people talk about MNCs on this forum, one would think these MNCs're owned by spirits, not human beings.


Bottom line: work hard, guys, but it is better to be highly connected.

Did Alison Madueke get her job (SHELL) on merit?
Hmmmm, I thought Shell was special. No legup

In its social mobility white paper the Government admits that access to certain careers can be 'frustrated by traditional cultures, established recruitment processes and inflexible career pathways.' Let’s spell it out: the best jobs, hidden away from graduate milkrounds and advertisements in the Guardian, are usually secured through daddy’s contacts. No chance for the son of a worker at the local factory, is there?

Internships are really the only other way into professions such as politics, media and the Bar. But young people from modest backgrounds can’t afford to live away from the parental nest on no pay

It’s time to get to the heart of the problem. Many of the journalists, lawyers, bankers and politicians who form the metropolitan elite are supporting the careers of their own children, thereby excluding others from joining what is becoming an impenetrable circle of success.

Sure, says the journalist to the MP, I’ll offer your daughter a position on this paper, knowing full well that his political anorak of a son will stand a better chance of being a MP’s researcher when he finally graduates. All very nice.



An interview shouldn’t be an empty gesture, just to show you are going through the ropes, with a friend of a friend’s son selected weeks ago.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1126498/RYAN-SHORTHOUSE-Heres-liberal-elite-help-poor-climb-social-ladder--stop-giving-plum-jobs-friends-children.html#ixzz2MiKLODw3

No! They are saying it is different in Nigeria. A country where you can buy WAEC questions from Okada guys

coogar: but that's the reality......
to even know there are vacancies in some companies involved a super duper networking of friends. not everybody gets to hear chevron is recruiting or mobil is recruiting. thank heavens for internet and mobile phones, things are a bit better but you still need to know someone to get by.



how do you know for sure they got it on merit and nothing else was involved? it's not like they would tell you what they did here and there as most of these things are done under secrecy.



i agree - it would be unfair to say people don't get hired on merit alone in nigeria but far majority don't get in by merit. something somewhere must have act as a catalyst!

GBAM

it is a common practice worldwide, even in sane societies let alone Nigeria. Keep telling us you didn't get a legup

Even in the UK, it is rife:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1126498/RYAN-SHORTHOUSE-Heres-liberal-elite-help-poor-climb-social-ladder--stop-giving-plum-jobs-friends-children.html