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alBHAGDADI:
Corinthians 7 - 22

" And remember, if you were a slave when the Lord called you, you are now free in the Lord. And if you were free when the Lord called you, you are now a slave of Christ"

You mean the verse up there?

What does it have to do with our discuss?

What does being a slave of christ mean?

alBHAGDADI:
Peter did what he did before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Before then, what was in place was Judaism which he was still under. That's why he was forgiven after weeping bitterly.

Look at it from this angle. Peter denied Jesus when he was under the age of the Law and Judaism. That same Peter died for Jesus when he came under the age of Grace and Lordship of Jesus, which took effect immediately after his resurrection. Had it been Peter denied Jesus under the age of Grace, he would have been condemned.

Leah Sheribu is under the age of Grace, that's why she can't deny Jesus.

You are writing grammar, Peter denied Jesus but layer acknowledged his mistake and was forgiven while and he became a great man.

Absolutely nothing stops Leah to do whatever it takes for survival while reverting back to her faith and seeking forgiveness.

Quit been an extremist. This is how it starts

noble2faith:
do you even understand the biblical Peter's act?

Pre-pentecostal peter denied Jesus Christ cos his faith was not strong...post Pentecostal peter did not deny Jesus Christ even at d point of death..

It's simple. He denied him and later acknowledged his mistake

Why is it a problem for a little girl to do same for survival?

saaron:
Those calling Muslims head slammers are wrong. Everyone has freedom to pray or worship their god whatever way they chose.

What do you do about it whdn they are called head slammers by your fellow Christians?

Olabenjamen22:
well the Guy is referring to Christian not atheist, so what concern you atheist,
did you know become of peter?
Matthew 16:18 New International Version (NIV)
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, [ a ] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades [ b ] will not overcome it.

I guess you don't know that it was peter that suppose to build the foundation that apostle Paul build.
The glory was remove from peter from the day he deny Jesus Christ.

Does that change the fact that Peter denied Jesus and he was still a great man

BERNIMOORE:
peter fuffiled a prophecy, Jesus prophesied that peter would deny him, peter has resolved in his mind never todeny Jesus even if everybody does, after the incidence peter cried bitterly, the RESOLVE NEVER TO DENY JESUS
IS THE UNDERLYING POINT HERE IT NEVER CROSSED PETER'MIND THAT HE WILL FUFFILL A PROPHECY, using this as an example to follow shows a predetermined excuse to deny Jesus and a true Christian should pray not to rely on his powers but God to strengthen their resolve to stand

Absolute balderdash

saaron:
We do. We bow our heads during prayer.

But you castigate and attack Muslims for doing so. You can them head slammers. Isn't that hypocrisy of the highest order?

saaron:
Why Jesus Christ didn't call himself Christian or why he didn't practice Christianity?

There was no need for Jesus to call himself Christian or say he is practising Christianity. Those words were coined right after he left the earth and ascended to heaven. It was the Romans that coined those names to describe Christians, followers of Jesus Christ.
Since the we became known by the name and we are fine by the Christian name. If Jesus were to come today, he will still identify with us as Christian followers of his word.

If you are followers of Christ, why didn't practise the religion Jesus practised?

Jesus prayed falling on his face, why don't you pray in that manner?

If you are followers of christ then it should be in its entirety

alBHAGDADI:
Yes, cos it is Islamic to deny one's faith.

Like the verse in Corinthians I quoted which you ignored right

alBHAGDADI:
Peter did it before the death of Christ. Pls, note that.

Peter that saw the life and times of Jesus, denied him during his reign, prime, time and was forgiven but a girl in thousand of miles Nigeria after thousands of years WONT BE FORGIVEN for doing what she did for survival.


You sir, are the definition of brainless

alBHAGDADI:
I thought you guys said the Quran was easy to understand. Now you are referring me to what was written by different scholars of Taqiyya before I can understand a simple Quranic passage.

Not so brilliant. You skipped the quote because it exposes your folly

alBHAGDADI:
If you deny Jesus now, you will always deny him later cos you are weak in faith.

What you are saying loud and clear is that if a Buddhist should place a cutlass on your neck telling you to deny Allah, you will immediately do it. It means you never believed that 72 virgins with milk and wine awaits you in Islamic paradise .

Then why hold a believe you can't die for in the first place?

Peter must be weak in faith

alBHAGDADI:
It's rubbish to you because you are Muslim. Why can't you leave us alone to continue with our love for her? Why are you forcing us to see otherwise like Boko Haram is trying to do to her?

So everybody that doesnt support what she did are Muslims?

saaron:
Which question?

It's up there.

saaron:
Yes Appostle Peter denied Christ. He repented and was forgiven. But just because Peter did it and was forgiven doesn't mean we should also do it. Sin is sin. Remember we are followers of Christ, not followers of men. Jesus Christ is our role model, not Peter.
The same Apostle Peter who denied Christ earlier was crucified upside down by King Nero of Rome for refusing to deny Christ the second time.

Quit being stupid and illogical. Peter did it WITHOUT PRESSURE OR WITHIN KILLERS yet HE WAS FORGIVEN but an innocent lil girl can't do it for survival.

You are very dead brain

saaron:
In the beginning followers of Jesus called themselves followers of Christ. It was the Romans that scripted the name "Christians" to denote "Followers of Jesus Christ." Since then the name Christians and Christianity became dominant and we are fine by it.

This sermon doesn't answer my question

alBHAGDADI:
You muslims are angry that she didn't deny her faith. You know that the moment she does, she will automatically become Muslim, not only because she claimed to be Muslim, but because she did the exact thing Muslims are permitted to do when they are being forced to denounce their religion.

Muslims are permitted to deny their faith to save their life when under pressure. If Leah had done such, then what will make her different from a Muslim?

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Quran 16:106
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment;

Smart people know how much youh hate Muslims and Islam. You can go any length to discredit them even if it includes hurting yourself.


Regarding the verse.

This link explains it

https://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/23/quran-16106-except-for-one-who-is-forced-deceiving-disbelievers/

If a verse was quoted from the Bible like this, we would have heard series of statements like "quoting of of context" ,"not filled with holy spirits", "you read it naked eyes"



Corinthians 7 - 22

" And remember, if you were a slave when the Lord called you, you are now free in the Lord. And if you were free when the Lord called you, you are now a slave of Christ"

kastroud:
read Hebrew 6 thank me later

By your logic, Only people in heaven are the ones that the chapter is talking about?

Secondly, if a lil girl like her renonuces her faith for another one simply for survival and reverts back to her previous faith but her God decides not to forgive her despite asking for forgiveness then such God isn't a God afterall

alBHAGDADI:
All the Apostles in the Bible who died are and will always be a huge inspiration. Leah just proved that what happened in their time is still possible today.

Yes it's possible and she proved that but it was a rubbish one. Not everything proved are meaningful

saaron:
Its interesting how you people say the girl is stupid for not denying Christ to save herself from boko-Haram.
First of all, true followers of Christ will rather die than renounce Christ. Jesus Christ himself died on the cross. He could have saved himself but he didn't. He chose to lose his own life so we could have eternal life! Today not is Jesus Christ alive, he sits at the right hand of God and will rule forever and ever. Leah was following the example set by Jesus Christ.

Secondly, Lies and deceit is Sin! Deceit is in any form is Sin. It doesn't matter if it is to your friend or enemy. Lying or deceit is Sin and true followers of Christ are forbidden to lie even to enemies. Lying to enemies is as Sinful as Lying to a loved one. This why Leah did what she did. She refused to lie by pretending to renounce Christ to save herself from enemies.
So if you're of the opinion that Leah should have lied, pretend or use deceit to save herself from her captors, then she would have committed a terrible Sin that would have cost her eternal life with Christ.


By the way, True followers of Christ see Taqiya as a terrible Sin.

If being a Christian means you are a follower of Christ, why are you a Chrisitna and practicising Chrisitainty when Jesus was never a Christian but a Jew through and through

CAPSLOCKED:

YOU SAID "JESUS DIDN'T WANT TO DIE".... JESUS DIDN'T WANT TO DIE?
MY LORD, VINSHU!
I THOUGHT IT WAS DECIDED FROM BEFORE EARTH'S CREATION THAT JESUS WILL COME OVER TO DIE TO SAVE MANKIND, AS PART OF GOD'S PLAN. I THOUGHT JESUS ALREADY KNEW HE WAS COMING TO EARTH TO DIE, BECAUSE AFTER EVE'S CREATION, SIN WILL COME INTO THE WORLD, AND HE'LL NEED TO COME DOWN AND LAY DOWN HIS LIFE TO SAVE MANKIND.
HOW COMES THE BIBLE RECORDS THAT HE WAS PRAYING IN BLOOD AND TEARS, WISHING GOD WOULD SPARE HIS LIFE AND "LET THE CUP" PASS HIM.
WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE THIS DELUDED?

IT BAFFLES ME HOW THERE ARE PEOPLE, WHO COMFORTABLY BELIEVES AND PROPAGATE SUCH TALES.

AS A LEARNED INDIVIDUAL WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN, NO MATTER YOUR RELIGION, THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE THINGS THAT DEMANDS QUESTIONS, THAT DESERVES DISTRUST AND ETERNAL RIDICULE.


NOW, BY ALL MEANS,
TELL ME HOW TO BELIEVE THAT TWO PEOPLE CAN AUTHORIZE DEATH; THE DEVIL, GOD.
WHAT ABOUT THE "DIVINE PLAN"? IF THE DEVIL CAN AUTHORIZE THE DEATH OF SOMEONE, IS THAT ALSO PART OF GOD'S PLAN?
IF YOU SAY YES, THEN THE DEATH WAS PARTLY AUTHORIZED BY GOD.
IF YOU SAY NO, THEN GOD'S PLAN IS USELESS IF ANYONE CAN ALTER IT.


EXPLAIN TO ME..
HOW IT IS GODS PLAN TO KILL INNOCENT CHILDREN WITH LEUKEMIA.
HOW IT IS GOD'S PLAN TO LET SHOOTERS STORM PRIMARY SCHOOLS AND MURDER THE ENTIRE KIDS.
HOW IT IS GOD'S PLAN THAT PEOPLE DIE FROM TERRORIST ATTACKS, ALMOST EVERY DAY...
WHILST KEEPING THE EVIL DOERS AND THE CORRUPT PEOPLE IN POWER ALIVE.


OR, ARE THESE DEATHS AUTHORIZE BY SATAN?

WHY WOULD A GOD CREATE A BEAUTIFUL WORLD, AND FOLD HIS HANDS WATCHING SATAN SCATTER HIS PERFECT CREATION? WHY NOT KILL SATAN?

WHAT IS THE GAIN OF GOD, AND THE ADVANTAGE OF KILLING INNOCENT CHILDREN AND DESTROYING ANIMALS IN NATURAL DISASTERS AND WILDFIRE, WHILE THE RICH PEOPLE WHO RUN THE WORLD DOWN LIVE HEALTHIER, HAPPIER, AND LONGER?


I NEED EXPLANATIONS. (AND MAYBE THE GUIDANCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT).

Religion and Logic don't play together.

kastroud:
yes and I see where u are going here
so before you go there I would love you to realize that peter died in the cross for not denouncing christ.

How do you know he is in heaven?

kastroud:
u are very funny bro. I'll ask a simple question would u rather enjoy here or suffer in hell. there was a very funny story told to me once a bus was hijacked by extremists and then every one in the bus was told to come down and then the Christians where asked to deny Christ those that did(the intelligent Christians) where kills those that stood their ground where let free. please do u believe those that denied Christ would have made heaven.

Is Peter in heaven?

kastroud:
firstly I would like to note that the minuter there is something like intelligent Christianity that is the same time I would stop being a Christian. Christianity is not about being intelligent if it was so don't u think Christ could have used intelligence to escape the people that wanted to kill him rather than die on the cross the truth is that there is no intelligence in Christianity if not we would not have had martyrs. the girl did a very brave thing and if u have not been inspired by her then I have I'll leave it like that.

The girl a very stupid thing. She would have died like a cockroach and heaven wouldnt fall. If she has renonuced hee faith just to leave the den of the terrorists and revert back to her christian faith and ask for forgiveness. God will forgive her.

This is what births extremism

dayo2me:
Well, it is typical of muslims derailing and swerving. The Mark Conduit you mentioned, did he kill in the name of Jesus Christ? Does he justify his actions right from the Bible?
Did he hold up a gun and Bible and say the Lord's Prayer before shooting?
Did he shout Hallelujah in which case is allahu akbar with islamist terrorist while shooting?

kindly address these questions holistically.

Lol. So what you shout defines you. Well, he belong to a Christian terrorist group.

I know these facts makes you cry and pained

GavelSlam:
What is this one saying?

Someone, a foreigner tells you his God is all in all and that you are a monkey you then say we must abide by this not to invoke the wrath of his God .

Are you ok at All?

Religion indeed makes some people extremely phooolish. You just quoted one of them

zlantanfan:
The islamist jihadists would run here to cry forgetting the world problems today are from islam.

How people's entitled opinion becomes their global headache is puzzling.

God has called Israel unto his own not for their righteousness but for the covenant with Abraham and every Christian must respect that and not allow the evil propaganda from islam to ultimately wipe out Gods people

Lol.

What are the world problems from Islam?
The article doesn't include Islam in any way but your hatred and bigotry found a way to call It out. Is that what you are been taught in your church now?

sweetgala:
I can't like your post enough, I fear Christian extremism is becoming a reality in Nigeria it has started taking the form used to promote white American exceptionalism and the arian race principle of superiority.

There is no longer a sense of individual devotion to the teachings of Christ it's all about my religion is better than yours.

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head

saaron:
Who are you to decide for Christians what they should believe or do in times of trouble? Follow your advice because you know better than Jesus Christ You know nothing about following Christ.

Did Peter deny Jesus or not?
What became of Peter afterwards?

dayo2me:
Pained ke! I just notice, that u confirm the islamist terrorist - actions justifiable from the koran by defending them. The girl was/is being forced and compelled to accept a belief that is against to her belief which actually negates "no compulsion in religion" has stated in koran. What do you make of that?

The Islamist terrorist like Mark Conduit who have been bombing Austin since beginning of this year

paxonel:
whether she deceives her captors to that she is converted to Islam and get freed or she keeps denying Islam at the end she get killed Jesus will never deny her.
If she dies, she dies a christian martyr and she is accepted to heaven, but she died foolishly, a death that would have been avoided if she had done otherwise.

Do you still think that the released christian chibok girls who remained in captivity for so many months will still maintain the Islam they were indoctrinated with by their captors till this moment?
That is not possible.

They have long been rehabilitated back to christianity

Sensible comment from a Christian. Most of these folks shouting inspiration blah blah are bunch of phools who will just die like chickens with their holier than thou attitude even when they do extreme worse things.

God will surely forgive her because she did what was necessary for survival. But bunch of dead brains here are wallowing in ignorance

stevenakp:
Thank you Sir. I love this stupidity.

Enjoy it