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Nairaland of old was the real deal not this trash we have now

clemzo101:
ok sir. May ur mouth not put you in trouble

Did i lie?

dancewith:
This is a wrong analogy. The fraudsters decieve their victims often the victims assume they are sending money to someone they aren't. In some cases they're fooled into paying for non existent goods. That a fraud

What the boy is saying is the tithers pay out of their faith, beliefs and generosity. Many supported a cause they believed in just like many supports their candidates in an election because they believe in them. They pay cos they are toeing a biblical path. Their faith. It's like asking a Moslem why he must pray 5 times a day or spend huge resources to go to Mecca where he might die

Let he or she practise in peace what they believed in. There is no emotional blackmail here. This is biblical and if they believe it to be so, it is entirely their act.

Pls explain the screenshots

clemzo101:
I have a feeling Freeze will be disgraced soon

Technically, Jesus was also disgraced and killed like a roach alongside two thieves

Tenn88:
There is something I don't understand, when Jesus comes, what are those things he will do? Or will that be the end of everything?

He is coming to take ONLY THE CHRISTIANS TO HEAVEN then instruct Oyedepo to open hell fire since he is with the keys for the others who aren't Christians

BafanaBafana:
A lot of people are not OK about the tithing thingy but are not just bold enough to come out, unlike Freeze.
Personally, I don't have a problem with people tithing. My only problem is how pastors blackmail their gullible followers into parting with a certain percentage of their income. They say things like,
If you don't pay tithe, things will get tight for you. That's a lie.
You won't be blessed financially if you don't tithe. Bigger lie.
Tithing keeps you from afflictions. Lie lie lie.

More of the lies

obailala:
A lot of people are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'force'.

Tell a person who reveres your words that if he doesnt give you a certain amount of your money, he would suffer misfortunes, die and be condemned to hell. When you're charged to court in a civilized society for psychological blackmail, go ahead and tell the judge you didnt force the person.

Meanwhile I wonder why 419 or Yahoo Yahoo is a regarded as a crime in Nigeria. After all, according to Nigeria's understanding of law, the victims weren't forced.

Thanks man.

These screenshots answers it already. Too many stupid and proud gullible Nigerians

Chubhie:
I was many years ago an enabler in the system. The moment you stopped paying your tithes, headquarters would know. Remember you've got confidential secrets and histories only the church knows? Those are things that would be used against you to beat you into line or destroy you totally and make it look like an accident. The politics been played at abuja is child's play compared to what goes on in churches. I saw witnessed unbelievable things. It is what it is.

How is this different from cultism? These are the same set of people that attack Muslims, Athiests, Traditionalists, et al. Christians should look in the mirror every morning and every night. It's a total shame !!

mhizroyalty:
So who are the false Teachers ? Cos the last time I checked no Pastor has ever forced any member to pay tithes, tithing is a personal thing .

Kindly explain the attached screenshots

Chubhie:
Freeze is the one taking this campaign to enlighten people way too personal.

In the words of Tupac Shakur, Take the evil out of the people and they would act right. That we hold the largest record church auditorium in the world speaks loudly about priorities and poverty.

These gods of men are in business as a result of endemic poverty, lack of access to good education and health care.

IMO, It would be counter productive and suicidal to forcefully detach the sheeps from the church which serves to provide hope for the hopeless and soul for the soulless. These are symptoms which provides the cash cow for the dangerously wealthy bishops.

Eliminate poverty and watch the churches empty out and die a natural death. Go to churches and listen to prayer points and loudest amens to get a clearer picture of the root causes.

I understand you perfectly but you have misquoted freeze. He hasn't asked anybody to stop going to church, even tho he has made them know that you are the church and not a supposed building. He is only calling out the false doctrines practised as a norm in the church. He is slapping sense into the senseless. He is giving then awareness about things they have turned blind on.

In life, we learn everyday. If I was a Christian and a heavy tithe. With the latest back and forth regarding tithe, I 'll do my personal research and reach a conclusion. Surely, my conclusion would be to stop paying of tithe but I might not stop going to the church. Yes I know it will be difficult because pastors has made it difficult for non tithers to be present in their churches with the threat messages they preach but the state on the mind comes to play here as I will regard it as bullshit.

Just check our the below images and tell me what you think about them.

Freeze asked the combination of these clowinsh thieves called pastors to proof with biblical evidence thay tithing is meant for Christianity. Read what the supposed most powerful and popular pastors said.

My questions to tot he payers are

Do tithe payers do what Jesus told them or their pastors?
Are tithe payers worshipping God or their pastors ?

This kind of list can only emerge from "tinamargazine".. lol

donsijemichael:
These freeze is just a great fool leave the church alone Bishop started flyin even when you were still in secondary school. So e don tail d man. Follow his teaching nd get bless

These kind of teachings

Any sane mind would know the amended bill is fraudulent. It has been pushed 4 times, 4 good and different times but not once would they push bills that would benefit an average Nigerian yet the average Nigerian still think Buhari is their problem

traihit:
Now you see yourself as better than me because you are able to conjecture words together to insult. I'll still say it again, if you really want to understand the world more, keep your mind open. I can see what it means to be brainwashed right through you.

An open minded person that the one who is ready to learn, unlearn and relearn. These factors also represent a 21st century educated fellow as reading and writing belongs to 12 th century educated person.

I didn't insult you, I only stated [color=#000000]FACTS[/color].

You attacked freeze
You asked for a challenge from me and I provided not [color=#000000]ONE but TWO[/color] from the most [color=#000000]popular NIGERIAN PASTORS[/color]


[color=#000000]Why have you remained silent about them? [/color]


Attached again for your convenience

Eyinjuege2:
You must be crazy
Don't bring your madness near me o. You better go and work hard and make some money to better your own life and that of your generation, instead of telling others what to do with their money

Just like your pastors resorting to emotional jargons and curses when they can't counter an argument, their dumb followers have joined them.. They ask a question, you [color=#000000]ANSWER THEM WITH EVIDENCE [/color] but their next response Is always emotional and filled with curses.

traihit:
Do you know that without knowing God at all, a country can still get to the highest level of human development which is because they follow universal principles that's not subjected to their religious beliefs? As for the religious country being poor etc, it is better not to know God than to know him for selfish purposes. The problem with those countries is not religion, it is the people. Religion does not mean you have to act anyhow, lazily etc like we do in Africa especially. Without Christianity, Africans would still be underdeveloped if we have the same attitudes we have now. Instead of religions changing us, we're the one changing religions to suit ourselves and that's where the problem comes from.
My brother, forget about Africa's problem and religion. Find God and know him truthfully and you'll understand more why we are here. Religion is not a declaration of surrender of our senses!

Religion has caused more harm than good to us. Explain the screenshots below

In the second screenshot, the god you serve destroyed shiloh but oyedepo church member wants god of oyedepo to bless him. Does he even know the god he serves?

traihit:
I'm not a believer of any of those men of God you quoted, I'm a believer of Christ who has the Holy Spirit to guide him into what is right or wrong. As for the insults you hurled there, you should know that you made a mistake of sending them to someone who doesn't care. What's ignorance? (lacking knowledge of certain things) which means you and I are ignorant of certain things much as the other words you used there are also context specific.
Let me say finally that believing in God is far beyond paying tithes and more so, God can't be bribed neither is God a taskmaster. If tithe is the reason for you not to believe in God, please get a Bible and study personally because tithe deals more with willingness than compulsion and it is not a prerequisite for making it to heaven. Peace be unto you.

Quit writing like an emotional kid, nobody cares. You challenged me to prove if any popular pastors in Nigeria force you to pay tithe and I provided evidence of the two most popular amongst them but what can you do that write tales of gibberish and not one critic against these thieves. But you can lash freeze and his followers. You can challenge me for evidence but you went dumb and stupid when you saw the evidence starring at you.

That's the height of hypocrisy, dumbness, stupidity, gullibility, brainwashness and bigotry which you are your cohorts find yourself.

Eyinjuege2:
Daddy freeze would rather go clubbing and spend hundreds of thousands on drinks than to go to any religious gathering.
It's not everyone that enjoys going to the club. Some get their fulfilment by going to the church or wherever they can gather according to their religious beliefs. You can't hold it against them.
Going to religious houses costs little, and nobody compels you to donate money. They won't chase you out if you don't drop offering.

Are you blind, deaf, dumb or the three in one? I think it's the latter

traihit:
That's why you need a full understanding of situations before you can appraise them. Jesus came to provide alternative for men to come back to God. But men still have to choose whether to live by his principles or not. Now let me say that though some believe in Jesus (even Satan himself), the world can't be better when we abandon those principles.
Being brainwashed is context specific so I'd implore you to find other terms to use. That's because you've also being brainwashed into believing that logic is the ultimate. Do you realize how much logic has failed this world? Why then do you think you can subject religion to logic?

Alternatives? So tell me how come the countries shouting Jesus up and down are the poorest, most violent, dangerous, etc. The richest church in the world are in UK, US and Italy but the richest pastors are mostly found in Nigeria. Do you guy use your brains to think at all or it's just there for fashion?

traihit:
Do you know why the Bible said "to the pure, all things are pure and to the defiled, all things are defiled"? It is because WE CHOOSE WHAT TO SEE. And for Freeze and his gang, out of hundreds of sermons pastors preach, it is the tithe part he holds stedfast. Meanwhile no church where Christ is preached will ever force you to give a dime. YOU CHOOSE. You don't need to call people brainwashed because they fail to agree to your ideology. YOU ARE ALSO TRYING TO BRAINWASH PEOPLE TO YOUR SIDE. I challenge you to pick any of the popular pastors in the country and look for their sermons then come back and tell us how many times they curse you for not paying tithe.

Most of you guys are ARROGANTLY IGNORANT, DUMB, GULLIBLE AND VERY STUPID.

traihit:
You omitted the other part. Be logical and be what? If logic has been pursued from the time before Christ and yet, the world only got better technology wise and worse everyday in other terms, why do you think logic is the ultimate answer?

According to the bible and christendom , Jesus came to the world to cleans it. How come the world is even worst than it was before he came? It's either his death meant nothing or he only existed in the minds of the illogical and brainwashed poeple.

traihit:
What a detailed explanation! Whoever is defending Freez or whatever he calls himself should know by now that he himself is anti-gospel. Firstly, he was asking God to punish a creature of his hand while the same Bible he has been misquoting says we should love our enemies and pray for them that hate us. Secondly, other than misquoting the Bible, there's no evidence of him being inspired by God to interpret the Bible.

I only pray that God open and heal his heart that he may live a life of true Godliness without hypocrisy or enmity with the people of God.

Your pastors hasn't been misquoting the bible hence the reason they demand for tithe and offering which has no biblical evidence.

Your pastors are inspired by God to interpret the bible yet only tithe and offering remains the same while other doctrines are different. They will soon tell us what 2019 will entails and surely most will be political. So God wil tell them political things right? He will also tell them different things as usual, he will tell Oyedepo PDP will win like he told him in 2015 and tell Adeboye that APC will win.

You guys aren't only brainwashed but dead brain

Rebuke:
I wonder how any sane person will take this is irresponsible man called Freeze serious.


The idiot of a freeze has no brain, he and his followers are d same. The day of reckoning is here.

To all the haters of the gospel and the apostles of Christ, great will be yhur disgrace.

I have said it before and I am saying it again, xcept Guy free repent, his disgrace wl make headline news.v

Freeze is brainless yet the combination of the all pastors in every denomination to every church in Nigeria can't counter him with biblical evidence regarding tithes and offering.

Man, the idiots are the combination of these thieves and their followers especially the latter which you fall into.

Go and watch "COME SUNDAY "

Boss13:
After all the religious concerts - the situation remains the same. I remember my childhood when pastors organize crusades so we can cast and bind the devil. Now, I wonder how long do we continue to cast and bind this same devil. If I calculate how many times I alone casted and bind the devil, by now such fellow must be miserable and feedup. Add that to the total number of Christian Nigerians casting and binding this same devil, multiply it by the number of Christian crusades and concerts held each month per year. Now include the total Christian population in the world, their churches and programs.

It is either the devil is too powerful that the effect of Christian prayers mean nothing or the devil does not exist and was made up - you decide. Regardless, we must all agree that if you continue to do the same thing repeatedly and expect a different result, then one must certainly be a fool.

Unfortunately religion and logic don't work together. Be religious and remain dumb, gullible, stupid and brainwashed. It's so sad bro

The congregation cheered him on despite making many negative words about freeze. He even said he would turn freeze to a wall gecko and the people have him an applause. That's the gathering of Christians. That's the gathering of the so called tolerant people. That's the gathering of the so called saints. The gathering of the people who believed heaven is made for them alone. Yet they open their mouth to lash non Christians.

Hypocrisy, hate, bigotry and intolerance are Christians

ecstasy37:
Lol... instead of bickering why don't you result to statistics

In comic book world we have various level of hero power

god level - these are comic character that can manifest their strength, abilities at multiversal level that is at different multiverses there are character that can control most forces of the universes time, space , really e.g dommamu ,darkseid , living tribunal , galaticos, thanos( with the stones) , doctor strange (with the time stone)

Universe level : these are comic character that can exist within a universe or can exist in multiverses mostly characters that have strength, speed , laser ability and others e.g silver surfer, thor , hulk, superman, doomsday , captain marvel

World level : you should know what this means e.g spiderman , hawkeye lol , iron man

Movies is just an imitation of the comic and downplay characters power superman in comic book lifted the book of infinity pages meaning he lifted something infinite that means he has infinite power , captain marvel too is a multidimensional being but if he attacks thanos head on he can snap his fingers and turn him into an apple because thanos controls reality lol marvel studio directors wont just put captain marvel head on with thanos

The key to this next part is doctor strange he did something already if u watched the movie well u would know
Cheers

time loop?

These guys faith would be decided quickly while Evans is still drinking henessy. What a country !

Adakintroy:
NeXT is the new iphone, the new samsung, the new camry, the new benze. All of us kept in an assembly line waiting for something interesting. While Life is just passing by meanwhile.

Once we show interest in comics its a done deal. There is no end to this franchise.

It's a vast widerness. More like a universe. We are even.yet to scratch the surface with heroes and villian. You guys are going to be entertained to boredom soon.

As for me the only thing am anticipating is the e coming of christ. This world is getting too reharse.

Abeg, carry your preach to the religious section. Can't Nigerians just discuss a particular thing and stay on it? What the fùck is wrong with some of you? All your head no pass religion

Mozzyb1:
Bixby is rubbish, av been using it, b4 I tried Google assistant. Gets my message once & results immediately, unlike bixby, she doesn't understand some words. I think it's a failure, if samsung can't get it work better than Siri or Google assist.

Bixby isn't rubbish, it's not a replacement for Google assistant at the moment. It's there to complement it, Bixby is best enjoyed when it's used for in phone operations whike Google assistant excels better for web operations

barackodam:
God bless you jare.


Every of those things were written by Nigerians, I can't say about the quora own sha. But the rest are Nigerian blogs

And most in Quora are written by Nigerians and foreigners that have visited or stay in Nigeria.