samuelpeters:

First off, we don't have paramedics in Nigeria.

Secondly, Nurses are not the least paid in Nigeria. They were, when the law couldn't decipher who is a University graduate Nurse and who is a RN Nurse. But it has been sorted out. They are on par with others.

Finally the X-ray technician didn't just start doing the job. Radiologist taught them.

Everything you know as a Radiographer was designed by a Radiologist. But they moved on to some other aspects that are important and left you guys with the basics.

yunqdady:

You need more education, you appear smart so please study more to know more, your points are wrong.

God1000:
So Russia cannot defeat Ukraine in a conventional warfare, Putin should be ashamed of himself, the so-called 2nd most powerful military in the world.

And I think america learnt from world war II that if dictators are not made to pay a price for their aggression, they will cause more chaos, Adolf Hitler started this way.


Putin should know that the west is equally ready for him and his madness, Putin must be stopped in Ukraine.

Allowing him to take over Ukraine unchecked will further embolden him to invade other countries in eastern Europe which will eventually lead to world war III, China will also follow suit by invading Taiwan

Russia's humiliating defeat is glaring to all.

Does Russia even have good delivery systems for its nuclear weapons.

yunqdady:

I'm sorry to say. You are dumb. Please focus on your studies and wait till you graduate. By then you should know more.

eben28:


Yes, I had to take it this far so you can understand that nurses are not slaves to doctors but professional allies. You started badly by speaking ill of the highly esteemed and noble profession that had long existed before your medical radiography. Nurses are doctors ( Clinicians) assistant in the hospital settings while Radiographers are doctors' (Radiologists) assistant in the radiology unit.


we are not doctor's and we can't do their jobs so also they can't do ours.
Again, you are wrong. the radiologist were the ones doing all the radiological procedures before now. They brought the radiographers into the hospital to assist them so as to reduce the workload on them. So, the radiologist do you job wella because that's their job before they brought you guys in.

but ask yourself can doctors do nurse job...I will say perfectly....but not radiographers job.
Another error. Doctors cant do some nurses' work because there are some aspect of patient's care taught in nursing school that are not taught in medical school such as Preparing Bed making for various patients, Performing Bed Bath, Performing Back Care, Performing Perineal Care, etc.

eben28:


Lol... you see that word daft enh. It perfectly describe you and all the unintelligent posts you have been posting. Let me educate you for the last time. Your job as a medical radiographer aka Medical Imaging Technologists is to assist the doctor (radiologist) in hospital settings. So, you are a doctor assistant. Do you copy that?

And then, take note, your your work area is in the hospital setting where you take radiographic images of patients under the supervision of the Radiologist. Outside the hospital setting, like in the military and other industries, radiographic images are taken by specialized Physicists.

See the attachment for guidance.

As for the op, my final submission again is this, let your passion direct your profession.

eben28:


Lol... you see that word daft enh. It perfectly describe you and all the unintelligent posts you have been posting. Let me educate you for the last time. Your job as a medical radiographer aka Medical Imaging Technologists is to assist the doctor (radiologist) in hospital settings. So, you are a doctor assistant. Do you copy that?

And then, take note, your your work area is in the hospital setting where you take radiographic images of patients under the supervision of the Radiologist. Outside the hospital setting, like in the military and other industries, radiographic images are taken by specialized Physicists.

See the attachment for guidance.

As for the op, my final submission again is this, let your passion direct your profession.

eben28:


Chai... I'm sorry to burst your bubbles. Pathological basis of disease in human is divided into general pathology and systemic pathology and it's not in your curriculum. Attached herein is a copy of your curriculum.

Just imcase you are not satisfied with your job jurisdictions and you want to venture into radiotherapy, simply go and get your mbbs and specialize in Radiology, period. Please stay away from my mention.

eben28:


This guy you are so so shallow in knowledge. Nurses work in all those establishments you stated and more. Nurses work in the clinic of every establishment. Think about it start from health centres in primary, secondary and tertiary institutions; military, banks, various industries. The list is endless...

Please stop giving misinformation about nurses.

Amayabor1:


Now you are talking. The therapeutic Radiographer is part of the team that treats a cancer patient with Radiotherapy. That has always been my stance.

However, it is the Radiology oncologists that calculate the radiation dose while you administer the radiation based on the dosed prescribed by the doctor (Radiation oncologist).

In addition, there are more advanced Radiotherapy that the Radiation oncologist administers himself. For example, Brachytherapy, Stereotactic Radiotherapy are almost always administered by the Radiation oncologist.

Amayabor1:


Because there is Therapeutic in your name doesn't mean you treat cancer.

Most often than not, cancers are not treated with radiotherapy alone. It can be by radiotherapy, surgery and or chemotherapy (with medicine). Most times, these patients receiving radiotherapy are also receiving chemotherapy.

Now, let's even assume you have a patient whose cancer will be cured by radiotherapy alone. That patient will be referred to a radiation oncologist (who is a medical doctor). He is the one that will draw out the treatment plan for that patient. You as a therapeutic radiographer will only follow the plan he has drawn out as the patient belongs to him, not to you. You work under his supervision and direction to deliver the radiotherapy to the patient. I want to ask you a question; if you are given a patient with cancer as a Therapeutic radiographer to treat the patient, can you do it? How many therapeutic Radiographers treat cancer patients? Please, educate yourself on the different professionals that make up the Radiotherapy team.

And as for Brachytherapy, it is a procedure carried out by a Radiotion Oncologists (who are medical doctors).

Amayabor1:


We are not talking about whether Radiography is divided into diagnostic or therapeutic Radiography. We are asking, do Radiographers (Therapeutic R) treat cancers?

Treatment of cancer is not a one man show. It involves many disciplines. It may include Surgeons, Clinical oncologists (called radiation oncologists in the US), pathologists, Medical oncologists,etc.

That the therapeutic radiographer operates the machine that deliver the radiotherapy to patients with cancer doesn't mean he treats cancer.

Amayabor1:


Same with Radiography love. They can go on to specialise in ultrasonography, magnetic resonance imaging, radiograph interpretation, computed tomography, mammography, radiotherapy, nuclear medicine.

As for being in senior hospital administration, I agree nurses tend to have the upper hand here, but this advantage occurs mostly in government owned hospitals.

TheOmoney:


Check well....a radiologist is a medical personnel that studies Medicine and Surgery and Specified in a particular field (Radiology).

A Radiographer is just a technician that calibrates machines and read its results.

Just like the difference between an Ophthalmologist and an Optometrist.

eben28:



First a nurse wud and will always work under the supervision of a doctor i.e extremely subservant to doctors bwhile Radiographers work with mutual respect and in some cases gives directive to doctors who basically know little or nothing about medical imaging

Secondly nurse cannot build or supervise a personal hospital or clinical center without being monitored by doctor while Radiographers can have his/her personal diagnostic as well as therapeutic (treatment) center without doctor

You are dangerously unformed and ridiculously outdated of the happenings in hospital settings. First, nurses have what they call NURSING CARE PLAN. In the care plan, they outline their diagnosis, analyze the disease conditions and work out their treatment modalities which involve both non pharmacological and pharmacological therapies. And it's based on this reason that nurses have licence to open private hospitals and employ any medical staffs they need. They are not under doctors as slaves but rather as partners with the common goal of duty of care.
This cant be said of radiographers that are trained to work in the hospital under the tight supervision of medical doctors. Your duty as a radiographer is to capture radiographic images and develop them as films. The doctors (Radiologists) interprete the films captured by the radiographers and then formulate the diagnosis based on clinical and radiographic experience. I see a lot of you guys in the hospital in the course of my training so, I'm speaking out of experience.

in some cases gives directive to doctors who basically know little or nothing about medical imaging
Also, you are wrong because, all medical doctors passed through radiology posting in 500 Level during medical program. Or are u refereeing to the radiologist doctors who have had 4 to 5 years residency training and you are telling us that your oga no sabi the subject matter? O boy u suppose recieve better cane if u mention this thing outside here.

Thirdly. The esteem of Radiographers are uncompairable that they are referred to as Oracle of Modern Medicine and eagle eye of modern MEDICINE while nurses are merely reference as clinical Messengers.
Oh sorry guy, I think you meant to say that you guys will be Outcast of Modern Medicine. If you like don't go and learn programming languages and add it to your radiography becauses when advances of technology hit you enh...
By the way, Nurses are not mere messengers. This is the wrong perceptions reflective of many uninformed nigerians. Rather, nurses are key allies to doctors in the administration of care to patients. Some times, they remind doctors of drugs or anything the doctor must have forgotten due to many things on the doctor's mind. During surgical operations, they ensure the operations go smoothly. Infact, nurses are the best friend of the doctors because correct the doctors lapses. And more importantly, nurses are the closest to patients giving them the opportunity to obtain favour outside the hospital after a job well done. Unfortunately, many nurses do not tap into this opportunity here in nigeria because of the stressful work conditions in country.

Fourtly evolution of Radiography is not even at it peak yet because it will keep evolving with technology.

Let me lecture you a bit, you see enh... the services of medical technicians/techologies/scientists is fading gradually with advances in technology. With time, stand alone devices to run most of the lab tests are underway and that will send many of the technicians and scientist off the market except you'll start learning to become a developer. To start with, have you heard of POCT which stands for Point of Care Testing? Please read about it if you care. That's the beginning of your nightmares. With more of such developments in the hospital, there will be lesser demand for the services of medical technologies/technician and medical laboratory scientist. You guys have been giving the pathologists (laboratory doctors) serious headache in the lab. But for the nurses, they are indespensable in the health sector, any day anytime.

Fiftly nurse can only treat menial illnesses like maleria and typhoid and they cant diagnose....while radiographers is involved in tratement of malignant illnesses like cancer, infertility and they can diagnose (i.e they do diagnostic and therapeutic)

Again, another error. Nurses treat through their documented Nursing Care Plan while No Radiographers is permitted to perform radiotherapy. Radiotherapy is in the exlusive jurisdiction of Radiologist (Medical Doctors). The day you try radiotherapy without the supervision of the Radiologist, you will face the council and then you risk losing your liscence.

As for the op, please let your passion direct your choice of profession.

Young042galaxy:

Ur poor knowledge about nursing is pathetic.
What you spewed are all lies.

simpleseyi:


Yes, he is Fulani from Ilorin.

Quote me anywhere.


You no see as he resemble that Cameroonian bisexual from Adamawa ni.

Oladipo1166:


Oro??
I was born and raised there.

Oladipo1166:


Am from Kwara, and am a Yorubas man, omo igbomina

Bastardlyrich:

You are not a Yoruba man,there is no Yoruba in kwara state.
Maybe a krossbred but nigerians know that no Yoruba in kwara.

Zooposki:


How I wish they only use Yoruba earnings to construct this railway.

DoctorOlasDesk:
Anti-NATO miscreants like Iran, China, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Turkmenistan watching their leader in shame. So, this is the giant they were counting upon to lead an Anti-West.

I'm beginning to think this war was fated to expose the weakness and unclothedness of Russia to the entire world and its self, to inspire and usher new humility that will lead for peace that would go on to span for decades.

Thanks to Ukraine for the sacrifices made to ensure this new reality is achieved.

Russia the puss. Putin is a walking corpse. The only way this way ends since it's now a stalement with no progress and no humility to return home. End Putin, use any of the ambitious colonels to achieve this feat and the needless killings ends.

This war will put these Anti-NATO miscreants in check for atleast 50 years


Another thing i love about this war, the sanctions and all I find surprising is the audacity of the American stance


1. USA Started and maintained the pressure even before allies like Germany came onboard

2. Germany has been fighting American leadership long before almost asusming itself as a peer-mate. This war has humbled even Germany to follow like a faithful and loyal servant should

3 The ability to tame the bear and the dragon together, Russia and China without breaking a sweat

4. Putting China in it's place. USA has been telling China it would face consequences if it lends a hand. China has been mute like a wet chicken

5. Saudi Arabia is secretly thrilled and watching from the sidelines. No wonder she ordered for American patriot missiles just last week in its fight against the yemeni houthis

6. Turkey is humbled

7. India can't make " fem "


God bless USA. God bless the west. God bless Christianity