boolet:
Sorry to say sirs, SH is in no way Yoruba but an anglisized form of spelling the Yoruba alphabeth 'Ṣ' (shi).

thanks for the corrections don't blame d qwerty keys tho

Efewestern:


Is Abugewa yoruboid?, cous it's a common name in Okpe and Uvwie.

Uvwie has a great influence in your language, Example Dolor is an uvwie word for money, thou some part make use of E'kowa.

let me clear dat notion. i have met Urhobos bearing Itsekiri names a very classic example are the Igbogidi people of Udu LGA. according to their history the founder of the town married an Itsekiri woman and gave her the privilege to name their settlement which literally translates to a land of trees tho many of the indigenes re changing their names but the truth is not that they re Itsekiri s but they bear Itsekiri names

secondly one of my Dads co worker whom i known as Temisan (Daddy Temisan) as intuition will have it its very normal to think he is from Itsekiri but he told us that he ia from Okpe LGA and that d reason why he is bearing Temisan is because his Dad had a childhood friend whom his dad insisted that he named him.


the Itsekiris have lived side by side with their neighbors until politics and colonialism brought about the current hatred. if u go through history tribes intertwined by naming their children and even themselves out of goodwill.

even Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh adopted the Itsekiris tribe as his tribe despite his Urhobo Origins so if u check names Abugewa i am sure they have Itsekiri Origins

My fellow itsekiri please let always try and spell our name properly and not the Yoruba form despite the fact that we have similarities in our dialect the spelling are totally different, please let's try and correct ourselves

Tseyi not Sheyi
Tsaye not Shaye
Tsaninomi not Shaninomi
Tsola not Shola
Tsolaye not Sholaye
Tsegbone not Shegbone
Tsemaye not Shemaye
Omatseye not Omasheye
Omatsola not Omashola
Totseoma not Tosheoma
Tetsola not Teshola
Oritsetsegbemi not Oritseshegbemi
Omawumi not Omowumi

Efewestern:


Hmmm, strange, Ogbe is an Edoid word, I can bet it has no Yoruboid root if that's where you are driving to.



Before they head to the supreme court the Government should try to pacify the warring parties. We can't be in court while some people are still killing themselves.

I'm nt driving at any point that's why i said i am watching from the sidelines..


if this administration pacify i can bet u that same issue will come up and d next administration will also pacify and it becomes an endless circle..


so since both parties claim ownership of the said land.... they shud go and convince the jury

i wud watch from.the sidelines...

but the word Ogbe is neither Ijaw nor Urhobo...



but whatever the argument is.. both parties shud head to the supreme Court with tangible proofs and end it

Rexia:

Abeg perica no be so I tok. Njaka abeg takam molo molo.

See shenkes nr go yarn wetin go over you o.. cos if e burst no joy for the jungle

Efewestern:


shoo, d smallie join dose make cast everywhere or na jonkey?

lol, waje dat shenkes on claim area, if we start with am en she go run.. be like na from Cameroon she dey yarn 4rm, she too they feel warri.

na we dey run am..

Oboy dem use am count scores

Make dat erima come na

E wan show e kpai number

Efewestern:


lol.. okay interpret the following.

1. "Okon today en, everywhere burst, na so boys just dey root kala from all angle b4 kpokpo show men don chokin"

2. "Oshare d opko I sight 2day en bam die, base on say I no feet shoot bird mama fly, I nack am. "

Warri pidgin is also influencing All pidgin in Nigeria, due to it's influence and popularity.

D one wen blast for caban sef dem perish one smallie for the matter. Kpokpo de do crowd take for the way like dis

Come and show ur sef

Rexia:

Lol I just understood everything you said.

You feel say if we start to de yarn the cabashing ur mendolla go fit chest am?

Efewestern:


Abi u nor read am for one holy book wen say man must not live by *** alone, I don free dem taytay, I galant for area now. just they vex base on the BEDC mata, dem fall guy hand.. so many tins just dey hang like boxer wen dey rope.

hope u self burst enta church today?

Omoboy i nr enter o
Bedc na okpokpise na

Efewestern:


Oniovo as u yan am so na so e just be, your teeth complete.

Anoda tin make dey make wafi pidgin tight lyke woman under na d way we dey flow am pass, d slangs, d contocontor make dey inside. if e no be wafi, den no be wafi.

kpoko 4 u

Dem go hear word

How ur matter be na?

Hope shenkes don free you?

As e be so
Warri pidgin nothing de hard na base on say d way we de vomit am come out as e de hot. Na d accent na make us de different.

Efewestern how u see dis marras wen de ground so..

From my assessment
1. Chelsea deserve more than a draw... But mother luck
2. Barca didn't do something out of the extra ordinary
3. Messi well.... Congrats
4. I still don't understand the subs of Barca and Chelsea

hammer6F:


U have changed moniker now to do wat u are suppose to do.

This is a forum, try to play on the same level as all the posters.

No need disturbing mods after u find trouble.

Changed moniker?


Tell me what u know about the Itsekiris na

hammer6F:



Now go back and put my post into context.

U want to remove Itsekiri to Oduduwa, wat do u do with the Ijaws?

Itsekiri belongs in the SouthSouth, they are not Oduduwa, period!

So in essence
You re saying because there re Yoruba's outside the Nigerian space they should not identify with Oduduwa?




The Itsekiris were a group of fishing settlement that was unified by the Benin prince who coined the name "Itsekiri"

hammer6F:


U see wen dem tell una to pay attention in School, una go say, i don here, reach there they play.

Wen did I say the bolded?

I am talking geography, go back and read it again. Aside dat, i maintain that Itsekiri are not Yoruba regardless of mixing becos they also mixed with Ijaws and Urhobo(lesser extent).

Secondly, I will appreciate if u cut out all the fictional story and fairy tale of Yoruba claims or Bini claims.

It is called domination, the rest of us are still learning at the hands of the Yoruba on that one.

Thirdly, Economically, SS and SE are inter-dependent on each other and need to work together to attain Economic Efficiency.

First this post is total nonsense


2nd u have been baptised with hearsay and have not been enlightened with historical journals to get educated


If i may ask

What do u know about the Itsekiris?

Everybody saying uefalona


If true true we be uefalona we for don win like 19 Ucl back to back



Life just de pain some people

I am sad to announce the decision to continue with this topic reasons been that the anti spambot have been frustrating efforts to make this thread a success.

My sincere apologies

Onuwaje

Probably what BURTON called UWO KO may be the abbreviation of his own understanding of UBO TI A KELE WOO OKO ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI), meaning, where one enters the boat that goes to ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI).
It is important to observe however, that UGHOTON in BENIN River was BENIN Port from where anybody coming from BENIN to ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) domain would take a boat for his journey.

Finally, the various spellings of _WARRI_ reached its bar when the _NIGER COAST PROTECTORATE_ was established in 1893.
_HENRY L.G. GALWAY_ was appointed Vice - Consul of BENIN River, and it was he who introduced the present variant spelling _WARRI_ , which had stuck to the _KINGDOM_ .
Thus the Kingdom Of WARREE or WARRI is synonymous and interchangeable with the Kingdom Of IWERE
However, as noted earlier on, the name _JAKRI_ or _JEKRI_ could be traced to YORUBA _ , granting that ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI)_ himself emigrated from ILE-IFE

Thus from the foregoing it is apparently clear that right from the Fifteenth Century all _EUROPEAN Explorers_ to this part of the present day _NIGER DELTA, NIGERIA_ , have been calling the territory the KINGDOM OF WARRI and not the kingdom of ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI)

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Furthermore, the arrival of the _DUTCH_ on trade exploration to West Africa in the Seventeenth Century gives birth to another variant expression, " _Kingdom Of OVWERE or OVEIRO_ ".
Thus the title, OLU Of WARRI, is not new, but had been established by EUROPEANS over five hundred years ago.
By the Eighteenth Century, the presence of the _FRENCH_ added yet another variant, _OWARE_ (IWEREĘ).
Similarly, the advent of _BRITISH_ Merchants and Naval Captains at the beginning of the Nineteenth Century brings another spelling, _WARRE_ (WARRI).
Dovetailing this is _Captain JOHN BEECROFT_ 's version _WARI_ .

Consul RICHARD BURTON, who sailed for the "Renowned City of WARI" in August, 1862, says that the BENIN River is called UWOKO JAKRI, meaning, according to him, outlet of JAKRI.
There is the reference to the KINGDOM Of WARI or WARREE and that they call themselves JAKRIMEN. UWOKO is probably a corruption of UGHOTON
The ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) term for an outlet (of a river into the sea or creek) is ARUNTON, Mouth of a River, and not UWOKO

For centuries, as pointed out earlier on, IWERE and ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) have passed through various stages of spellings.
The _PORTUGUESE_ , who were the first _EUROPEANS_ to sail under the flag of _Prince HENRY_ the Navigator through Western to Southern Africa on the Atlantic Ocean, recognized in the Sixteenth Century the existence of _OEYRE KINGDOM_ (IWERE KINGDOM).

According to _WILLIAM A. MOORE,_ the PORTUGUESE first had intercourse with GINUWA at IJALA , in about 1516.
However, other explorers soon followed with several other variants of spellings, as much as they could acoustically comprehend the pronunciation of the Name IWERE
Thus WARRI became an important trading post through River FORCADOS, for the PORTUGUESE.The other name of the People, ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) came up at IJIJEN's arrival at OKOTOMU (ITSEKIRI) was the Landlord of OKOTOMU who welcomed ÌJÌJÈN to his domain.

*THE PRE - GINUWA PERIOD IN ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRILAND)* : ```THE ORIGINS AND VALUES OF THE CORONATION RITUALS OF THE OLU OF WARRI AND THE ITSEKIRI PEOPLE``` .

*NOMENCLATURE*
According to EREJUWA II, the Late OLU Of WARRI, in an address presented to the interdenominational congregation on Sunday, 18th March, 1984, to mark the 33rd anniversary of his coronation, he said, inter alia:
_The word 'WARRI' is derived from BENIN word IWEREĘ, which is used to describe both the KINGDOM and the (ITSEKIRI) People._

The YORUBA call them ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI), but we have also heard the BINI calling them ISEKHERE (ITSEKIRI). There is a street in BENIN called ISEKHERE (ITSEKIRI) about which OMONEUKANRIN has this to say:
_The Man ITSEKIRII was possibly a descendant of ISEKHERE, the Great Ferryman of the OVRA (OVIA?) River fame, and, apparently, one of the earliest political refugees from BENIN via IDAH with the IGARA Language, which bears some similarity to that of YORUBA
_
From study, the word 'similarity' could only be appropriate, when comparing ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) Language with YORUBA Language. IGARA, correctly called IGALA, is a different language altogether with some words borrowed from ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) and YORUBA just as YORUBA borrowed from HAUSA, and ISEKIRI borrowed from PORTUGUESE and SPANISH.
The borrowing of words by one tribe from another is characteristic of trade connections and boundary towns.

Moreover, the URHOBO call the ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) 'IRHOBO', a witticism meaning, floating on the river. The URHOBO version could also be rendered IRHEBIE, that is, rowing on the river.
The EZON call the ISEKIRI (ITSEKIRI) ISELEMO. The word ISELEMO, probably was derived from two EZON words: SEGHE, meaning, dance; and LEIMO, means, enter (canoe). That is, those who dance in canoes (on water). This has been part of ISEKIRI(ITSEKIRI) culture till today.

For those who missed part 1 and 2

https://www.nairaland.com/4329808/itsekiri-people-brief-history

https://www.nairaland.com/4334378/itsekiri-people-brief-history-part

During the course of part 2
Anti spam bot banned me so i was unable to finish the 2md series..



Let's hope its different today

Cc Efewestern macof

Dis nr be news

Am i the only unsurprised one?

SicilianMafia:
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You are posting nonsense and trash that's why you got banned!!..... This thread is officially dustbin material , its clear for everyone to see!!

Let me give you a clear warning STAY OFF EDO MATTER S YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT !!..... STICK TO THE ONE PAGE HISTORY OF WHEREVER YOU ARE ALLEGEDLY FROM!

I am not in anyway trying to start an e-war.
U cannot tell Itsekiri history without Benin. I am not interested i. Your battle of supremacy with the Yoruba nation about who evolved from who
Don't get me wrong sir

Efewestern:
I see you interchanging Itsekiri with Isekirii, I thought I read somewhere were some itsekiris where arguing that ÌŞĘKÍRIÌ is a Yoruba spelling for itsekiri and it is not accepted.

Don't get me wrong, am not trying to derail the thread, just want some clarification on this, also is omolubi same as omoluabi? cc: onuwaje

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The first generation of Itsekiri lexicon/alphabet were influenced by Itsekiri who more or less copied the Yoruba Alpha Numerical system

But both are d same just that ṣe and Ts are d same (one is Yoruba d oda Itsekiri)

Chidexter:


Yah, like sambisa forest

I have been to 14 States and all have something unique that draws people from far and wide no matter how little they may be and the most intriguing thing is dat u still find whites visiting

But our Ministry of Tourism what are they doing?

Nigeria is blessed with tourist attraction but we re too blind to see them cos we all want to jet out

Watch put for part 3