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euromilion: Really?how did that happen?

miraculously.

christemmbassey: where was the Spirit of God ?

inside you, you are possessed

that was when i became an atheist.

Area_boy: Ermmm.. one question, which god is responsible for punishing these people?

dont ask twice, have you not read the bible, how the xtian god committed multiple genocide and racism and rap.e and misjudgment.

the xtian and the muslim god are two cruel satanists, only lucifer can defeat them.

valiacademy: Sorry if I annoy you, but when i talk about force i mean the intermolecular forces. Now mentioned energy..... Let me rest my case here since i do not want to annoy anyone. Thank you all for your comments.

or rest your cases because you are sounding ignorant. how can you "enforce" intermolecular "forces" on unconscious matter?. does stones and water now rebel? what is the use of an enforcer to unconscious matter?

Deep Sight: [size=32pt]PLEASE STOP POSTING, YOUR TERRIBLE ENGLISH IS WORSENING MY HANG OVER.[/size]

dumbest post ever

valiacademy: You don't make laws without the power to enforce them. You want me to agree with you that these laws came into being in nature and became enforced on their own without anybody behind it?

ok, now you are annoying me with your ignorance. on whom are you "enforcing" any law? do you enforce anything on something without consciousness? 2H2 will always combine with O2 to make 2H2O, you do not force the reactions, its how they will always occur.
natural laws are not like human laws, they were not laid. they are the way matter is behaving not the way matter must always behave. laws do change in different conditions.

natural laws are not constants so they do not have an giver or enforcer. this laws evolved matter evolved from energy. No Gods involved.

valiacademy: Very interesting. Can there be a pattern without intelligence?



Are diseases and deaths a product of mistakes rather than punishment for disobedience?



Nothing to feel bad at all. I appreciate every comment

1. yes, there is actually patterns without intelligence. the law of definite proportion, multiple proportion, nuclear reaction and other chemical laws proves this. not just about nature's origin, patterns and repititions are every day things in spontaneous reactions, this does not suggest intelligent origin of matter.

2. to say that mutation in unborn children is god's punishment suggest your god is more cruel than the devil. what sin could unborn children commit to make them worthy of trisomy21 for instance.
mutations are spontaneous mistakes of nature. man have made DNA that is infallible, seeing that DNA at first sight suggest intelligence, but never the DNA seen in nature, first examination suggest lack of intelligence and random origin.

Energy is an electromagnetic radiation, given off in form of heat in all matter, measured in photons.

Everything came from energy, by repetition of patterns and by proportaionality of energy in sub atomic particles.

Einstein' equation E=mc° confirms energy as hot radiation. when matter is accelerated towards speed of light in a nuclear reactor, energy comes off as heat used to make steam to drive turbines.

according to second law of thermodynamics, energy comes off every chemical reaction as heat. in the human body, the energy evaporates water leading to sweating and cooling of body when the heat is given off.

excited electrons absorb energy as radiation of heat and moves to higher energy state, when returning to ground state, they release the radiation which gives kinetic energy to surrounding matter, increasing their temperature, felt as heat.

the sun produces continuous spectrum, giving radiation in the process, this radiation is absorbed in photons or quanta by plants, this quanta excites electrons in chloroplasts, this excitement, which is energy absorption as radiation in photons drives photosynthesis. excess photons comes of as heat that makes gaseous oxygen from water.

planck's theory and einstein's equations proves that energy is a radiation which cannot be terminated. their theory implies that energy radiates from no source and therefore destroys the concept of a creator.

Energy does not and cannot have consciousness, all those who claim energy has consciousness are in a state of great delusion.

a completely isolated universe, like ours, cannot be observed, the concept of a detached observer(God) of classical physics is a myth. - Keith Gibbs, Particle Physicist.

I know how and why we have the order of nature. what we have is no order at all but repetitive patterns in randomness.

do not forget that there are mistakes in nature that causes diseases and death, this shows that there is no intelligence control in nature and the presence of rays and quakes that kill us shows that there is no intelligent origin.

a full understanding of evolution will free you from childhood stuperstitions. do not feel bad anyway, even those with PHDs still have imaginary friend.

wole is a non theist.

noetic16: in what context are these persons gods? or do you understand the notion of being God?

I take it you are god then, since you apparently understand the notion of being god.

noetic16: in what context are these persons gods? or do you understand the notion of being God?

I take it you are god then, since. you apparently understand the notion of being god.

Did you read your own topic. It implies certainty and now you are saying its a theory.

read the limitations on cloning well before claiming theories as certainties on nairaland, u think we are dumb here?


You made mention of nuclear transplantation into egg, so an egg has to be present to sustain your xx, which was not in adam.

Actually, your theory will self udestroy because the two XX will have the same allels of a gene which is lethally fatal to the growing clone, as always, the fetals will die before the 2nd trimester, am supposing totipotency now.

your cell has to be carried by a surrogate which was not also present with adam, except your god carried eve in himself or some sort of miracle happened. miracles are never part of science, so go tell them this in churches, not in open forums as this because human cloning has never developed past the blastula stage of the first trimester.

has science also proved that God made man from the dust of the earth?
has it proven that an adult human can develop within 24 hours?

striktlymi: Good evening ooman,

I trust you are good in your area of specialty but Love has made a claim which he believes is backed up by science and I think it would be fair to ask him for citations first before codemnation.

I respect your opinion on the matter but I need to hear Love out first before I draw my conclusion. I would have done an independent research before posting but I would need to get my lappy connected first.


Thanks!

ok, waiting.

how will this argument save you both from hell.

Oh God, save Africa from religion.

Ihedinobi: You reallu should just shut up, my friend. With each word you type you continue to eliminate all doubt that you're really not smart at all.

I would give you a worthy reply right now but jesoul will ban me again. that is if she will not ban me for writing this.

kenneth348: Y we de mumu our selves thinking that we talking to God. All this things we re doing will not make God to come out and start shouting "I EXIST O" so we better our old age. If u think u don get brain to de reason GoD, first ask ur self who give u dat brain. NONSENSe!!!!!!

sorry if this hurts you, but ONLY THE TRUTH HURTS.

how sensible is this?

striktlymi: Good evening,

Your post is quite an interesting read and on first glance it seems quite logical. Do you have any authority to support this finding?

Would have checked myself but I don't like making research with my phone.


Thanks!

hey striky, what this guy is spitting out is a total impossibility. It is not possible. Not just because am an atheist, but because am also a geneticists. Cloning is a everyday work, you cannot combine or clone two spe.rm cells, not just about the modification to grow a XY or XX cell, what about the cytoplasmic determinants only present on female egg cells?

manmustwac: you were banned for saying this. Right?



and this as well. serve your ban and be a good boy when your released on parole

there must be freedom of speech. Nairaland is not a slave land

Even Jesus uses a laptop.

I hope he does not do yahoo yahoo too

Lovethywilbedon: Now see how this works [1]The Bible says something beyond Human Understanding. [2]It sounds silly and impossible. [3]Christians get ridiculed because they can't logicaly explain it. [4]Then Atheist uses it to win some weak arguement against God. [5]Finally, after thousands of years, science proves the Bible to be right. On many occations, atheist have claimed the Bible was wrong when it says that A Woman was created from A Man. The Holy Bible tells us in Genesis2:21-22 that God took a rib from a man and used it to Create a woman. Since the Bible is not a Design Manual(A Science Book), it did not give us the Full Details of how God did this, but no matter how the "Story" was told, the main message it is passing across is that "A Woman was Created from something that was taken from a Man". Honestly, for Centuries, not being able to explain how possible this was had made Christians look like foo.ls before atheist. They say this sounds stupid. GUESS WHAT? Recent Advancements in "Cloning" a branch of Genetic Engineering has proved that A Woman can be made from something taken from A Man, but NEVER vice versa. Let me explain this in the most simple way posible so that anybody with the basic knowledge of science can understand it. Theoriticaly, it is Very possible to clone A Woman from A Man, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to clone A Man from A Wombn. REASON: A man has XY(heterogamatic s.ex) Chromosomes while a woman has XX(homogamatic s.ex) Chromosomes. [b]Now, by Genetical combining 2XY(heterogametic s.ex) Chromosomes of a man,[/b] it is possible to clone both s.exes ie male and female from a single man. Ie [XY*XY]={1XY(male)+2XX(female)+1YY(an imposibility)}. With this equation, it looks very simple but this involves a VERY Complex Process. On the other hand, by Geneticaly combining 2XX(homogamatic s.ex) Chromosomes from a woman, all you can get is one s.ex (only female). Ie [XX*XX]={4XX(female)]. As you can see, a woman can be gotten from a man but a man CANNEVER be gotten from a woman. Conclusively, God created a woman from a man and NOT vice versa. Moses wrote this thousands of years ago, it took science Centuries, to Mature enough to explain it. I know haven seen this some of you will start raising other issues which we can't explain now but will take science another millenium to explain. I have one Question "Woman was Created from Man" (and not the opposite) [Q.] How is it possible that Moses who wrote this thousand of years ago, could be RIGHT without the help of Science?. Do you think it is a GUESS WORK?

if combination of germ line cells is not fertilization, tell me what is.

manmustwac: why should i? what did you do get yourself banned?

i didnt do anything, i was discriminated against

Lovethywilbedon: my friend grow up. We are not talking about fertilisation here, cloning is not the same as atificial fertilisation and besides it doesn't require fertilisation.

[size=15pt]JESUS MY LORD. OH, EHM SORRY, HE IS NOT MY LORD. HE IS DEAD[/size]

Let me engage you, where does a zygote get its mitochondrial from?

Logicboy03: That is nice and easy to say- however, how does it work it practice in nigeria?

NOTHING COMES EASY, YOU MUST KNOW THAT

Bidam: God is not far from you.

Well, i am far from God, until he gets near to the dieing african children