₦airaland Forum

ypad:
This goes to show how greedy some tribe can be. I think the major problem Nigeria is facing is from a particular tribe. How on earth would yoruba elders demand for the dissolve of NDDC. when we all know that the FG generate almost 90% of her income from ND. They should have suggested ways to improve the commission and to scrap/delete it.

An elder (Tinubo) in the Yoruba race sold their right for a penny of which they were partakers and now they want it back, is it possible?

When OBJ was president, were all roads in the SW not bad? how many did he re-construct?

If not for the respect I have for elders, I would have said SW elders are useless, good for nothing animal with the brain of maggot, shameless beggars who sold MKO for 25Kobo.

Legendhero

naijaking1:
If the president is smart, and I believe he is, he will never marginalize the Yorubas or the SW.

The stability of this country was based on a tripodal arrangement between the north, east, and west at Independence. The current political instability is a result of neglecting this principle since after the civil as a way of punishing Igbos, ironically, the north grew too big, the south(west and east) grew smaller and weaker.

As Onye Igbo, I know that while Yoruba marginalization may be benefitial on the short run, on the long run, we'll loose more if Yoruba muscles are allowed to atrophy, and the Hausa muscle hypertrophies. For a start, the Igbos will loose an opportunity for a healthy and reasonable competition in academics, economy, and sporting events if the Yorubas are marginalized.

Let me also say that the majority of Yorubas, at least those in Government since after the war didn't see any thing wrong with marginalizing Igbos for their own short term gain, but we don't have to make the same mistake.

The Yoruba should be made chief judge, Speaker of the House, or attorney general, we must focus on the tripodal structure not the current lopsided state arrangements designed by the Hausa military to maxmize Hausa benefit from the federal government.

Legendhero
Metaphysical

At least one had sense

WilWily:
Jonathan sef, why didn't him tell him security men to kick those Judas Iscariot Yoruba Fraudulent Yorubas Elder out.
These Yoruba Elders no dey fear, why should they near Aso rock. Silly people.

Legendhero �

LegendHero:
Haha lol.

Those fool will now be saying Yoruba betrayed Jonathan.

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chino11:
This is a welcome development, the Yorubas should be effectively and perpetually marginalized and schemed out, because they deserve worst things also. What did they achieve for their rotten Yoruba states during wasted years of the baboon called Obasanjorijo Useless and woe tribe. They should step up the complaint, GEJ will as usual and as always mess them up. They forgot that Tinubo sold them out for a pot of 'ewodu', the same way their foolish leaders sold out abioala to the almajiris to be slaughtered.

Metaphysical legendhero

Abeg come see something

Sunofgod:
GEJ should have just chased them out of the room.

Why even answer their questions.

SMH

The same way Buhari has chased yeebos out of room

maestroferddi:
Dumb question...

May we first know what Awolowo gained for himself and for you guys by operating as the original Yoruba demon in supervising over the genocidal killing of over three million people during his stint as Gowon's number two for over 8 years?

Lool see question

abu12:
The major problem between IBO and Yoruba is Lagos. the IBO's are trying to claimed or dominate Lagos( the commercial center) from the Yorubas because of their business acumen. they want to control Lagos rig from the days of Louis ojukwu, who was a business merchant, Azikiwe try to control it, to the extend he rejected secession plan introduced by awolowo. because he feared awolowo will secede with Lagos. aguyi ironsi also try to control Lagos by implementing decree 34, just to hold on to Lagos. emeka ojukwu also try to invade Lagos during the war, after annexing Niger Delta. And the present generation of IBO youth still see Lagos as no mans land, the day IBO's will have access to sea for their business, that is the day IBO and Yoruba animosity will end.

So your saying for the past 60 years yeeboos have unsuccessfully tried to lay claim to Lagos Lool see the truth is yeebos don’t have any business acumen it’s all noise

mrhansome12:
Yes you are absolute right.

It’s still more developed than Igbo land that can only boast of 15 floor building

SLAP44:
Yes, only that by that time, it will be the Nigeria made up of North and west that might collapse again. Biafra would have left before then.

North west and south south
South east can GTFO

When will iPob realize Ibadan and port harcourt has never been razed down or defeated hence the old buildings

Of which there are lots of brown roof in Igbo land hence the poverty ratio of the Igbo land

Before they load the next bus to Ibadan

lexyking:
OP may God bless you for opening this thread. first let me start with the Quote of George santayana which says that ' history is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there'

the rivalry between the Yorubas and the Igbos stems from the various half backed truths that both sides have been fed about the various events that led to the civil war.

The igbos believes that Awolowo betrayed them by not joining forces with them to fight against the northern forces during the war, let's not forget about the infamous advice that he gave Gowon about cutting off the food supplies to the eastern part, these actions when told by the older igbos to their youths, evokes some form of hatred towards the Yorubas.

The Yorubas on the other hand think that Azikiwe betrayed the trust of the Yorubas by using his position and popularity in the west to advance Igbo cause, he did this first by joining the north to kick against the introduction of the much needed secession clause that Awolowo was fighting for. then he later supported and participated in the creation of midwestern region from the west in order to weaken Awolowo and the Yorubas.

These historical events have led to the perpetual hatred between these two progressive tribes. the painful part of this is that the younger generations just accepts the biased narrations of these events without even trying to engage in revisionism so as to try to explain the rational behind why certain steps where taken by the two tribes.

my calls to the youth of both sides is to understand that similar to the game of thrones series, there rarely ever good or bad guys, or right or wrong sides. there's just people finding ways to further there own ends.

If only the youth will ask ourselves why we are engaging in dirty fight and arguments over what some leaders did some 70 years ago, why would I judge my fellow generational mates based on the actions of the previous generation? why after playing with ourselves, eat together, go swimming together, have so many fun together as kids would we grow and start looking at ourselves through the eyes of our grandparents?

Let us learn to judge ourselves based on individual actions rather than on a tribal action. let us allow our hearts and brains rather than some nonsensical prejudice decide for us what is right or wrong, let us learn to trust in each others goodness and most importantly let us choose to have faith in one another.

Don’t forget Azikiwe wanted to ensure Lagos was never part of western region
And he opposed the unification of Ilorin and kabba yorubas

A real anti yoruba

Sunshineg5:
@ emboldened

Did igbos not vote en mass for Obasanjo in 2003 when they could have gone with Buhari and their son Okadigbo

My question to your questions

Did Igbos think Buhari stood a chance against Obasanjo?

Didn't Obasanjo reward igbos by giving them major roles in his administration?

Did Yorubas not vote Jonathan ahead of Buhari and a Yoruba man in 2011.

Did Jonathan not pay us back with insults ?

Yup Jonathan was a certified yoruba hater
I’m happy the same Yorubas dealt with him
Back to otueke

Agboriotejoye:
What's the name of your uncle's pharma company in kebbi? I'm in kebbi and I've never seen or heard of a pharma company there.

Looool

awakeuche:
you know better, and I never fall down to the level of tribalist, what have you gained since you became one. It certainly didn't make you rich Yoruba man.

Looooooool painment

OFFICIAL336:
Says a Yoruba Moslem

Coming from yeeboo catholic

Grayoso:
Whether you want to accept it or not, Tinubu is the best Yoruba politician post 1999 when our current democracy began. He is a product of his environment and a man who has achieved a lot for Lagos and the Yoruba nation via pragmatic politics allied to the reality of the day.

That was how Tinubu was able to fight and defeat OBJ many times to include keeping Lagos out of the grasp of the PDP and changing the political landscape of the SW from one where the PDP imposed gangsters and killers everywhere as leaders to one where Desmond Elliot, Shina Pellah etal could contest elections and win.

This feat alone is a priceless achievement as it meant, for the first time since 1999, any Nigerian could run for political office in the SW whereas it had to be violent, inept and cruel sadist under the PDP and OBJ.

The SW, no personal disrespect, will never rise with hands like yours because you would be another Soyinka, Solarin, Fawehinmi etal totally and deliberately disinterested in the reality that guides what is achievable, and that many subscribe to, only to be espousing lofty notions and ideals that can never move Yorubas forward, and would isolate/neuter anyone proposing such, because those run contrary to the way politics is played in Nigeria.

You and others don't understand Tinubu because you can never pragmatically marry what must be done with the reality on the ground in order to get results in Nigeria as presently constituted.

Best example I can give you are the adventures or more aptly misadventures in politics of Yoruba icons like Fawehinmi, Soyinka etal.

Yorubas pragmatically shunned the efforts of those highly respected Yoruba omoluabis because they know the type of leaders they want politically (Tinubu) and those they want as advocates and activists (Soyinka, Fawehinmi etal).

Tinubu plays politics like Chess he has mastered like grandmasters such as Karpov, Kasparov etal.

Because of his deliberate and visionary meandering, the SW is now in a position to produce reformational and visionary hands as its 2023 candidates in the likes of Osinbajo, Fashola etal.

Whereas OBJ would cynically have found some inept GEJ or Shagari-type tool he assumes he can 'remote control' to be VP to Buhari. Those sort would then waste the slot of the Yorubas, if they become President, as OBJ himself did!!!!

You will see that even Yorubas who don't like Tinubu appreciate his political sagacity because they appreciate the SW would be defenseless if she did not have a Tinubu.

This is partly why Igbos hate Tinubu i.e their deep regret at not hosting their own dogged master politician in the mould of Jagaban who would have prevented them being in the political purgatory they are mired in today. Be careful what you wish for simply because you don't want to be realistic and do not want to accept the reality of your nation and people.

You even have time to be explaining like this. S
Since tinubu sacked them 2015 for making efforts into Lagos politics they have been acting like dogs with rabies

KingJa:
Please name me an Igbo man who took the fight against 2 military dictators while risking his life and freedom in the process.

None of them instead Onyeke Owenu was singing
abacha run abacha run we love you pls run looool

Topsic70:
Yet another yoruba impostor.
**yawns**
So, so easy to spot ipobs.
If u like register on nairaland as 'awolowo', indicate ur 'name', 'email' and 'Yoruba-named truecaller-saved phone no' on ur signature, its very, very easy to spot u impersonators.
A slight glance at ur 'history' is all dts needed to pick u out nice and eassssy.

One thing u gyes fail to understand is dt our cultural values aren't d same, and this shows in d way we do things. Our culture is normally exhibited in d way and manner we comment. And this ain't about pro-Apc/Tinubu ishhh.
Nuff said!

Loool KO

Dedetwo:
Shut up!!! You do not have monopoly on recorded events. The same Herbert Macaulay who could not win ordinary seat in Lagos town council (Town Hall).

Loool as usual when you counter an Igbo man
He will resort to insults
Was Azikiwe not sacked from western house and banished to eastern region to rule his forest

Dedetwo:
Azikwe ran British government haggard. The brave Igbo women of Aba of blessed memory challenged the imperial British government. Oujkwu even slapped the devil out of British DO (District Officer) in Udi. Ndigbo do not attempt coup when caught, denied it, cried for leniency, and yet slammed into the jail. When Ndigbo attempt coup, the four walls of the world must fill the wave. For the sake of idiocy, which government of Nigeria has any living or dead Yari.ba peep ever challenged? By the way, noise and loudmouth are not part of challenge to government.

Loool Azikiwe that was boy boy to Herbert Macaulay
Looooooool

Who ended the military rule Igbo introduced to Nigeria. ?
Who was primarily responsible for defeating you in the civil war

Who gave Nigeria Yardua ?
Who gave Nigeria Jonathan?
Who removed Jonathan from office when he disrespected the yorubas

And you call them cowards looool

Topsic70:
@ what cost biko? Over a million souls!
That's d difference BTW 'shrewdity' and 'stupidity'

Why do you think their land is unproductive the 3 million souls are haunting it

Apawicked:
see how you spearheaded your goons and shouted down your Yoruba Christian sister like barbarians and outrightly evaded the reason for the thread. You went as far as calling her IPOB and deliberately denying the existence of her community to massage your over bloated ego

awww iPob catholic sorry

Dedetwo:
You would be rudely awaken from your daydream if your not-too -good ethnic group, which you have every intention to hide from the public, try to do what Ndigbo have shown Nigeria. Ndigbo have never been afraid of mixing things up be it with British imperialist or dumbass Nigerians.

Is that why Kanu escaped by sea and his hiding under British passport loool

awakeuche:
As a full Igbo man who travels the North, south west and eastern part of Nigeria I will say the NBA statistics is very deceiving but not totally false.
1. Yes alot of rural areas in the east are developed with modern buildings, but there are no commercial areas like you'd find in Lagos.
2. The Igbos need to use this statistics as a motivator to developing more commercial areas and industrial zone like is available in the south west.
3. The south western parts of Nigeria, states like osun, ondo and ekiti have one thing going for them, they all have industrial zones that bring in big businesses.
4. Poor infrastructure, little or inconsequential trade, but strong commerce compared to the east.
5. Development of the south west is rapid because all tribes contribute though this is mostly just Lagos and Ogun state.
6. Again the data used by the NBS is questionable and doesn't show the reality on ground.
7. If we as Igbos must develop commercially, we need to bring more businesses home, not only to our states but to the south south too, as development with these states must go hand in hand.
Let those who want to gloat over paper, laugh their hearts out.
A united Nigeria would make sense, but from the comments it's clear most of you are too far gone.
There is still hope for us all pathetic Nigerians.
And I predict we will have a better country with more tribal tolerance if we survive Covid 19.
Tribal bastards.

Ogun was now developed by everyone too looool
It’s not only Lagos ?
Loooooool when will you accept fate Yorubas are better at developing themselves than you

Be deceiving yourselves