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Christianity EtcRe: Best And Worst Religion Section Posters 2008 by osisi4: 7:08pm On Dec 11, 2008
lammie01:
The worst ones for me are DAVIDDYLAN AND OSISI for their extreme far right fanantical views of Islam at a time when we should be encouraging mature religious and interfaith discussion to enable peaceful co-existence and respect for each others faith.
I'm a lover not a fighter
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 6:18pm On Dec 11, 2008
auwal87:
EXAMPLE of ISLAMIC States

All the following Countries are practicing Shariah (Islamic Law). Thousands of Westerners and Africans and Nigerians rush to these countries to earn a living, some of them even relocate to these countries because of the peaceful atmosphere shaded by the Light of Islam.

1. United Arab Emirates
2. Islamic State of Qatar
3. Sultanate of Oman
4. Kingdom of Bahrain
5. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
6. Islamic Republic of Iran
7. Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
8. Arab Republic of Egypt
9. Syrian Arab Republic
10. Kingdom of Morocco

ISLAM is Light, I Love ISLAM!
Then to Saudi,all you need is google to read the state of women in Saudi arabia,many of whom are begging to be free.
the sex raves of Saudi princes in yaghts both with males and females and te prostitution rings they run is legendary.
It may interest you to know that Saudi and Yemen just abolished slavery on paper in 1962 but slavery is still very much alive in Arabia.


According to the U.S. State Department:

Saudi Arabia is a destination for men and women from South and East Asia and East Africa trafficked for the purpose of labor exploitation, and for children from Yemen, Afghanistan, and Africa trafficking for forced begging. Hundreds of thousands of low-skilled workers from India, Indonesia, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Somalia, and Kenya migrate voluntarily to Saudi Arabia; some fall into conditions of involuntary servitude, suffering from physical and sexual abuse, non-payment or delayed payment of wages, the withholding of travel documents, restrictions on their freedom of movement and non-consensual contract alterations. The Government of Saudi Arabia does not comply with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking and is not making significant efforts to do so.[125]
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 5:30pm On Dec 11, 2008
auwal87:
EXAMPLE of ISLAMIC States

All the following Countries are practicing Shariah (Islamic Law). Thousands of Westerners and Africans and Nigerians rush to these countries to earn a living, some of them even relocate to these countries because of the peaceful atmosphere shaded by the Light of Islam.

1. United Arab Emirates
2. Islamic State of Qatar
3. Sultanate of Oman
4. Kingdom of Bahrain
5. Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
6. Islamic Republic of Iran
7. Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
8. Arab Republic of Egypt
9. Syrian Arab Republic
10. Kingdom of Morocco

ISLAM is Light, I Love ISLAM!
Let's start with the kingdom of Bahrain where little infant girls are fingered by grown men while protected by Islamic sharia.
If you think I'm making this up,please see this clip and decide for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyIYKqMQLBs
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 2:26am On Dec 11, 2008
LadyT:
Well[b] he sounds modern[/b]! And it may not have anything to do with living in the US

Not these old fashion lazy lay abouts!

I do find some men pick what they like out of Nigerian culture whatever suits them.
That's not all of it, I had to train him too. grin
My mom told me that you teach people how to treat you.
She taught me to love,respect and submit to my husband but not to be a doormat and she was no doormat and my father and all his relatives love and respect her.
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 2:20am On Dec 11, 2008
KarmaMod:
This is depressing.
Very annoying.
I attend all these baby and bridal  showers and you'll see women with little kids some with 3 kids all under the age of 5 running amock at the shower and the poor woman can't even enjoy her time out with other women just because she has kids.
While the husband is at home watching TV and drinking beer.
I never go to such outings with my kids.
I need my own time alone to relax and have fun
Even weddings.when the hubby doesn't want to come he stays home with the kids.
Some men are very very inconsiderate and that's why you see some of our women looking so much older than their age.
They'll work hours and hours plus overtime and get no time alone to cool off
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 2:14am On Dec 11, 2008
LadyT:
But Osisi your husband is a conc Nigerian right?

Does he find you strong willed?
Conc Nigerian but I am truly blessed because I talk with friends with husbands that will not lift a finger,will not babysit their own kids,will not bathe ,feed them or change diapers.
Mine will  ocassionally vaccum,cook, do laundry and always bathed the kids till they could bathe themselves.
The only thing he will not do is wash dishes

Yes he thinks I'm opinionated but he knew that before we married but then over the years ,I've learnt when to back down and let him lead because we're not a power tussle and thankfully he respects me and my opinions.
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 2:06am On Dec 11, 2008
KarmaMod:
I tols him that they go hand in hand, osis

what happened?
My dear since I hardly put my gender in my profile,when I first joined the forum despite the obvious female moniker,many assumed I was male and when my gender was made known,there were men I had debated in the past that would say things like "I don't have time for this woman" or I had no clue you were a woman or please find your fellow women and all that crap.
Like women were some 2nd rated beings and so were not expected to say anything intelligent
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 2:01am On Dec 11, 2008
davidylan:
Osisi good points but the truth is are American man any more civilized than Nigerian men?
You think if given the opportunity many would not rather their wives just disappeared than having to pay hefty monthly alimony?

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To the highlighted part,I say a resounding yes not because we are incapable of civilization but because we are a product of our society.They think differently.If you know any Nigerian woman who has been married to a Nigerian then to a white guy,ask her.
And when you see Nigerian males married or dating western women they are totally different compared to those married to their fellow Nigerians because they are forced to comply with what is acceptable to a westerner.

my dear women also pay alimony when they earn more than their husbands.
Americal laws are fair
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 1:55am On Dec 11, 2008
davidylan:
I have not denied it, i have simply asked a question - is this a societal problem or a failure of the justice system?
Both.
Our culture basically is anti-woman and pro-man
haven't you heard things like

"doesn't she know she is a woman"?
"how dare this woman do blah blah blah" ?
"and she's even a woman"

that's the  general mindset.
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 1:51am On Dec 11, 2008
we are talking of a soceity where

a woman is expected to shut up and put up
where she could be sent away penniless from her matrimonial home for not having a male child
or have a second wife brought in esp in Muslim cultures,whether she likes it or not
a man could abandon his wife and kids and nothing happens
she could be beaten up and maimed by her husband and nothing happens

here on this forum,you remeber the statement made by several males when they found out I was female.
That is the mindset of an average Nigerian male
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 1:47am On Dec 11, 2008
david abeg speak the truth.
The Nigerian soceity is very unfair to women,I wonder why you deny this glaring fact
CultureRe: Men Don't Think African Culture Is The Best. They Like It Because It Favors Them by osisi4: 1:45am On Dec 11, 2008
Women do suffer in Nigeria.That is an undisputed fact and there is no recourse.
A man can slap and spit on his wife and any other woman in public and he'll just walk right by.
TravelRe: Top 10 Areas In The Usa With The Most Nigerian Population. by osisi4(op): 1:33am On Dec 11, 2008
This is news to me.I thought there were more Nigerians in the Houston area than NY area
TravelTop 10 Areas In The Usa With The Most Nigerian Population. by osisi4(op): 1:30am On Dec 11, 2008
The USA has the world's third largest Nigerian community, only behind Nigeria itself and the United Kingdom, where up to 3 million Nigerians reside. Like other successful immigrant populations in the United States, Nigerian Americans reside in virtually all 50 states. Sizeable communities are concentrated in the following areas (in order of size):

1. Maryland: Prince Georges, Baltimore (Not Including Baltimore City, the 4th largest Nigerian American community), Howard and Montgomery counties.

2. New York: All boroughs of New York City, the largest Nigerian American community, plus Nassau and Westchester counties.

3. Texas: Harris (esp. the city of Houston), Fort Bend, Tarrant, Dallas, and Travis counties.

4. Georgia: Cobb, Dekalb, Fulton, Gwinnett counties, with Atlanta is the 5th largest Nigerian-American community.

5. New Jersey: Hudson, Essex, Bergen, Union and Middlesex counties, with a large porportion of Nigerians live in Newark.

6. Illinois: Cook County (esp. the city of Chicago).

7. California: Los Angeles (city and county),Fresno, San Bernardino, Orange, San Diego, Sacramento and Solano counties; and the San Francisco Bay Area: Alameda and Contra Costa counties.

8. Ohio: Hamilton and Montgomery counties, with Columbus being the 3rd largest Nigerian-American community.

9. Rhode Island: Providence County (with significant numbers of Nigerian Americans in Providence) and Pawtucket.

10. Virginia: Fairfax, Prince William and Loudoun Counties, but not including Washington DC, it has the 2nd largest Nigerian American community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_American
CultureNigeria Has More Males Than Females by osisi4(op): 1:14am On Dec 11, 2008
So what is that argument for polygamy again?
Now that we know men out number women in Nigeria should the women now marry more than one man?

Total: 140m
Men: 71.7m
Women: 68.3m

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6217719.stm
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 12:32am On Dec 11, 2008
The woman began talking to us about what she wants: "I like to drive. Here, the woman cannot drive. And I like here to have a cinema…a movie."

And then, finally, she said: "I like to be free. All people want to be free."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/60minutes/main682565_page2.shtml
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 12:26am On Dec 11, 2008
The wonderful world of sharia.

In a society where women constitute the majority of the population and account for more university graduates than men, they have few of the rights that most of Western society usually grants.

They are not allowed to study any subject they want - law and engineering, for example, are closed to them. They cannot vote, travel without the explicit approval of husband or a male guardian, drive, or work in most government offices. Even when hired in a private office, they are usually put in a separate room from men.

And, what perhaps has attracted the attention of the human rights and feminist groups in the West the most, is the fact that they have to wear 'abayas' - the neck-to-ankle black robe, and cover their hair with a black scarf.
Saudi women inside the country say that while they welcome some pressure from outside on their conservative government to give women more rights, the emphasis is often on religious matters that are not as important to Saudi women as having other social and political rig
that is sharia in their currently ideal sharia state of Wahhabi Islamic Saudi Arabia.
we want none of that crap
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 11:26pm On Dec 10, 2008
an old survey that should be an eye opener to anyone that thinks Islam is a religion.Let him who has an ear,hear

Support for terrorism: All the Muslim populations polled display a solid majority of support for Osama bin Laden. Asked whether they have confidence in him, Muslims replied positively, ranging between 8% (in Turkey) and 72% (in Nigeria). Likewise, suicide bombing is popular. Muslims who call it justified range from 13% (in Germany) to 69% (in Nigeria). These appalling numbers suggest that terrorism by Muslims has deep roots and will remain a danger for years to come

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20081203073502zg/nigeriawatch/pew-poll-on-how-muslims-think-by-daniel-pipes-june-2006
FamilyRe: Polygamy: If God Allow Animals, Why Not Us Humans? by osisi4: 8:46pm On Dec 10, 2008
Aloy.Emeka:
If God allow animals to practice polygamy, why not us humans especially Africans?.

You'll see a cock colonizing three hens or a he goat with five she goats. Some goats cross the boarder and mate with sheep(inter-racial mating). Why are we not allowed by God to practice polygamy according to our culture just like he allowed animals that are lower than us?.



I don't support polygamy please but I was wondering why God should forbid us from doing that and allow animals to do it.
Emeka you better stick to one wife and look away from what chickens and goats are doing grin
FamilyRe: Polygamy: If God Allow Animals, Why Not Us Humans? by osisi4: 8:41pm On Dec 10, 2008
Jarus:
First and foremost, my own God does not forbid polygamy, up to 4 wives for MAN.
But this is not forgetting to tell you that your analogy lacks logic. You could as well argue that if animals mate openly, then what's wrong in human beings having sex on the street.

Think of saner topics please.
He was not refering to allah, maybe he didn't make it clear.
I'm sure he's not expecting contributions from shango and amadioha worshippers either.
He 's talking of the God that says this after the creation of man.

Genesis 2:24 (ESV)
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

which Jesus later quoted in matthew.

Matthew 19:4–6 (ESV)
4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to[b] his wife[/b], and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh
IslamRe: Muslims Denounce Mumbai Attackers As Enemy Of Islam by osisi4: 8:35pm On Dec 10, 2008
allah get game too?
419
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 8:27pm On Dec 10, 2008
davidylan:
Jarus, i asked for only two countries . . . its that simple.

Unless you're being dishonest . . . it is YOUR OPINION that if sharia is practiced "sincerely" it will bring "sanity" to the world.

Now i ask, can you show us ONE example of where sharia is practiced "sincerely" . . . do they have sanity?
Perhaps this is all the motivation we need to not worry about sharia law in Lagos.

Why is he such a frightening fellow?
How many questions have you posed to them and how many have received answers since we started this about 3 years ago?
Watch out and the next line will be "allah knows best"
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 8:24pm On Dec 10, 2008
Trying to scare us with allah.
oooooooooooooohhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
how spooooooooooooooooky!!!!!!!!

let the fellows name one single sharia country where the so called sharia is practised sincerely as they claim.
Just one single sharia place where Christians and Muslims and all live in peaceful bliss after poverty has been eradicated.

Nonsense!
No sooner had they implemented sharia in Zamfara and Kano than the lunatics went around demolishing churches like the almajiris they are.
what they want is to impose taxes and make Christians and non Muslims 3rd class citizens in their own land since their muslim women already have 2nd class status.
Ony a fool will be ignorant of the vision of Islam and Muslims to bring all under the rulership of Islam and their allah.
Only then will the peace they shove down our throats truly exist in their minds.
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 8:00pm On Dec 10, 2008
Frizy:
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It is only evil men and women that calls God's law evil. Indeed Allah will ask you to defend your statements, and for surety you will have none to defend you. Amin angry
an idol of the quraish tribe of Mohammed's ancestors AKA allah has absolutely no power to ask anything of me.
The blood of Jesus is way mightier than it.
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 7:58pm On Dec 10, 2008
lammie01:
The sharia penal code which is what most people only know because of the sever punishments involve is so difficult and rarely ever used in real islamic governance.
Please tell us one single country with this real Islamic governance?
none!
so you see how useless the sharia of a thing is

The cutting of a thiefs hand should never be applied until the govt of the day has been able to tackle and eradicate unemployment to the near zero level in order that no one would have any excuse to steal. This cutting of a thiefs hand can and should never be applied in Nigeria until the govt can eradicate poverty.
Now again tell us again,of all the sharia countries there are tell me one where poverty has been eliminated?
Sharia is useless I say,by your own words o.
It does not apply in any human society.

he biggest thieves in Nigeria are the politicians and I think if they have their hands chopped off  NO SON OF MAN AMONG THEM would steal public funds again. Anyway in general terms there has to be social justice before the criminal code can come into place. This social justice is another aspect of the sharia which precedes the implementation of the criminal code.
We do not need it.
Dress the way you want,tie up your mouths and grow 10 foot beards but leave other people to live their lives they way they want.
We don't want to live under your hsaria rules no matter how heavenly they are to you.Nigeria is a civil ,secular soceity and it should remain that way.
That's why many of us want you all to merge with Niger republic and sharry away.
Leave Nigeria alone.
We don't want your barbaric 14th century inhumane laws that were a mere concoction by a self proclaimed lunatic
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PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 7:46pm On Dec 10, 2008
lammie01:
@Osisi you seem to have an inherent hatred for the religion of Islam other wise how would a decent and intellectual person in the 21st century say something like " the quran should be thrown in the sea". Even the pope would not say such an insensitive statement.

If the archbishop of Cantebury would only have nice words for the sharia and clamour for some of it aspects in the UK and the head of church of Scotland say the same then i don't think any of you guys here have any intellectual depth to attack the sharia.

The sharia penal code which is what most people only know because of the sever punishments involve is so difficult and rarely ever used in real islamic governance. The cutting of a thiefs hand should never be applied until the govt of the day has been able to tackle and eradicate unemployment to the near zero level in order that no one would have any excuse to steal. This cutting of a thiefs hand can and should never be applied in Nigeria until the govt can eradicate poverty. (The cutting of the thiefs hand years back in zamfara was not justified bearing in mind the poverty in the state at that time). T

he biggest thieves in Nigeria are the politicians and I think if they have their hands chopped off  NO SON OF MAN AMONG THEM would steal public funds again. Anyway in general terms there has to be social justice before the criminal code can come into place. This social justice is another aspect of the sharia which precedes the implementation of the criminal code.

please lets encourage RELGIOUS DIALOGUE AND NOT ALL THIS CONFRONTATIONAL ATTACK AND MUSLIM HATE MESSAGES IT LEADS NO WHERE.
The archBishop of canterbury or cabin biscuit is a nobody in my books.Many have asked for his resignation for that foolish utterance in case you don't know.This is the same archbishop who supports homosexuality,he's the man you'll have me listen to.
If he becomes a Muslim tomorrow,no one will bait an eyelid.
If you get  your messages from arch Bishops why not consider what the pope himself said about Islam and violence some time ago that caused you al to hold up your undies in a bunch.

Sharia is evil.
All the countres with sharia are one of the poorest,most corrupt ,most violent places with the most human rights violation.
It is anti democacy.
We don't want it
If you desire it,move to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or better yet to the glorious land of Zamfara and Katsina where crime is non existent.
pure and simple
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 6:05pm On Dec 10, 2008
the wonderful world of sharia


The building[b] of a HEKAN (Combined Churches of Christ) congregation in Kano State, northern Nigeria, was destroyed in religious rioting in May 2004. [/b] Since then, intimidation by militant Muslims has prevented rebuilding, and the congregation has been forced to meet out in the open.

Last January the district head offered the pastor N800,000 (about £3000) for the land. Even though the pastor refused the offer, construction of an Islamic school began on the site in November. The church has now been told to take the money or risk being left with nothing.



Church authorities said today that they have been given little option and stated that the building of the Islamic school is now well underway. They added that if they were to turn down the money, then they may be left with nothing.

The HEKAN church has been one of a number of churches to face either land seizure or building demolition during violence in the Shari’ah states of central and northern Nigeria over the past few years.

Christian Solidarity Worldwide’s (CSW) Advocacy Director, Tina Lambert, says “It is unacceptable that Christians in Kano State are being treated as second-class citizens in respect of their right to ownership of land and property. This is a clear violation of the country’s federal constitution, which stipulates the right of any Nigerian to own land in any part of the country. We call upon the Federal government to uphold this constitutional provision and we urge the governing authorities of Kano to ensure a just settlement to this unfortunate incident.”

HEKAN is an evangelical Protestant denomination and one of the proprietors of the Theological College of Northern Nigeria.

Muslim-majority Kano State adopted Sharia law in 2000.
PoliticsRe: A Nairalanders Plea To Introduce Sharia In Lagos State. by osisi4: 6:00pm On Dec 10, 2008
the tolerant sharia.


.All school pupils in Kano, the most heavily populated state of northern Nigeria, must adhere to a Muslim dress code. Muslim dress was mandated for state school students in 2003; the new edict extends that to non-Muslims and students attending private schools.

"All private schools in the state are hereby directed to ensure their … pupils observe the dress code in accordance with the tradition and beliefs of our people," Kano governor Ibrahim Shekarau said late Thursday in the state capital.

"This is in line with our resolve to bring about a positive change in the attitude of our students and to strengthen their morality," Shekarau told a large crowed of veiled schoolgirls.
. . .
Under the dress code school girls wear a kaftan and trousers or long skirts with a veil and boys wear a kaftan and trousers with a cap.

Penalties for non-compliance were not specified.

The population of Kano state is estimated at 10 million, of which 90-95% are Muslim.
Nairaland GeneralRe: The One And Only Almondjoy Wishing You All A Merry Christmas by osisi4(op): 4:43am On Dec 10, 2008
Pataki:
Osisi you have been banned again? cheesy cheesy cheesy


I cannot even remember when last I got banned now. How do you peops get it done?
for terrorizing Muslims

like I could even try grin
they should send me to catch Osama bin Ladin
Nairaland GeneralRe: The One And Only Almondjoy Wishing You All A Merry Christmas by osisi4(op): 4:24am On Dec 10, 2008
*Hauwa*:
i don laugh tire  at the mention of Frankie  grin grin grin

siena is back  wink
really?
Nairaland GeneralRe: The One And Only Almondjoy Wishing You All A Merry Christmas by osisi4(op): 4:22am On Dec 10, 2008
goodnite dear.
you still dey naija?
them give you contract for delta or what?
jackal is now sauron FYI

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