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achorladey:
Allow me worship my demon in peace. I haven't asked or tasked you to worship that demon with me.

You yourself have said it.

And who am i to stop you from worshipping "Your Demon?"

Propheticdavid:
i observed that jehoval witness dont engage in house to house anymore in my area

You're right.

Kinematics:
What is Oyingbo? I only know Oyigbo....

Easy

gawu1:
Don't blame me for making that spelling error because I'm not ipob pigs
Se bi I no try?

Take am easy bro

fb2021:
interesting

Really?

pregnantMan:
That ugly beast

Ye.

PrincessGlow:
My friend everybody is not in Nigeria

You have switched identity right?
As if you're two different people.
Keep on deceiving yourself with this new moniker created this year 2021 for a reason.

Janosky:
achorladey: 10:07am ,16th May ,2021
" I have completed my own discussion about shunning palaver a month or two back".

Achorladey are you telling the truth?
What are doing on this thread today,16th May,2021?
Achorladey go give Satan tutorials on LYING


Since OP began this thread Achorladey carry " shunning palaver" for him head like gala.
Bros , check the time you made your last post today on the same shunning palaver.
Achorladey displaying his serpentine trait LYING.


Matthew, Luke, John and Mark in their individual narrative, they recycled the same statement of Jesus Christ.
Jesus recycled the the old testament events & prophecies in his teaching and preaching.
Achorladey proven he lacks SENSE.

And the funniest thing is that people were @ their various places of worship while this person was bust typing rubbish here and quoting everyone even earlier than the 10:07 a.m you mentioned.

Now tell me, is this person not worshipping demons?

Later this same person changed moniker and used another one created this year 2021.
I dey watch am closely. Very soon fowl nyash go open when breeze don blow.

PrincessGlow:
My friend everybody is not in Nigeria

You have switched identity right?
As if you're two different people.
Keep on deceiving yourself with this new moniker created this year 2021 for a reason.

achorladey:
Pele ti e

The Bible you carry states there is time for everything under the sun. Abi no be so? Why you carry my time and how I use it for head like this. Na your hands I take buy airtime for nairaland

If you love Jesus you wouldn't be doing what you did @ this hour

Emphasis on if please take note of the assumptions, speculations and suppositions. na under IF you still dey.

Zoom meeting don end abi? Na him make you pay visit for here

Hehehehehe.

I am not talking your data

If you believed in the scripture you quoted "there is time for everything", you should have known that typing those numerous messages, tagging and quoting everybody on Nairaland while others are feeding from God's table is absolutely wrong.
You should have channeled that time on hearing the word of God so you go get small sense which is eluding you.
Then later you can resume your rubbish arguments.

nibo ni ibẹru rẹ fun Ọlọrun?

achorladey:
When you are told, that I chose Jesus you came back with the below

You have chosen the path of death.

Choosing and Isolating with Jesus in the world in the realm of the religious organization you belong means DEATH. Thank you for it such a wonderful advice. I will keep it in my diary.

But you can still repent

You are still to answer the question about the SIN in the first place I committed.

Jesus loves you

You mean the same Jesus that I am isolating with that leads to DEATH or the that is housed in your place of dwelling?

If you love Jesus you wouldn't be doing what you did @ this hour.

Doing the wrong things @ the wrong time.

Repent ok?

achorladey:
You were impregnated leading to your being disfellowshipped.

The pregnancy fall on top her through the spirit or na you dey responsible. Which one? The latter is more plausible than the former anyway.

Even @9:51 am you're still quoting people up and down.

Is it not clear that you really are confused?

If you were in Church or may be in your juju house and typing messages here and there, then where is your respect for God?

Even in your condition, God can still forgive you provided you repent genuinely.
Repent and get forgiveness

achorladey:
Some criticize the witnesses but use our books in their teachings and seminars.

Your religious organization criticize, judge and continually condemn other christian denominations yet you and your religious leaders cite their works and even went as ft as calling it SPIRITUAL FOOD at the proper time.

So am not surprised because even the devil himself quoted from the pages of the Bible a number of times.

Will you and your religious leaders readily accept you behave like the DEVIL TOO?

Now he can't even identify himself with any religion hiding under the keyboard

This one need names that comes with WALLS and FENCES. Just like I told your brother here na out side camp I dey biko! I hope you can process that.

But he's an apostate.

Based on old books published and printed by your organization. That is to say that organization equally breeds APOSTATES. The reason the organization will always have them

You have chosen the path of death.
But you can still repent.
Jesus loves you

PrincessGlow:
achorladey, MaxInDHouse, Janosky
oaroloye

To the JW's still defending the evil called shunning:

What did Christ say to those about to stone the woman accused of adultery?? Yet He knew they could show him where it was written in the Scriptures.

See, the only difference between you and those you are judging and shunning is that you sin differently, or that you have not been caught. Imagine ostracizing a young girl to suicide because she fell in love with a non-JW! Does that make sense to you? Maybe her fiance would have become a JW observing how kindly JW treated his wife.

Here's that Christ's parable again. Try to read it with understanding. Note especially the bolded


22 Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.[g](V)

23 “Therefore, the kingdom of heaven is like(W) a king who wanted to settle accounts(X) with his servants. 24 As he began the settlement, a man who owed him ten thousand bags of gold[h] was brought to him. 25 Since he was not able to pay,(Y) the master ordered that he and his wife and his children and all that he had be sold(Z) to repay the debt.

26 “At this the servant fell on his knees before him.(AA) ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ 27 The servant’s master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go.

28 “But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins.[i] He grabbed him and began to choke him. ‘Pay back what you owe me!’ he demanded.

29 “His fellow servant fell to his knees and begged him, ‘Be patient with me, and I will pay it back.’

30 “But he refused. Instead, he went off and had the man thrown into prison until he could pay the debt. 31 When the other servants saw what had happened, they were outraged and went and told their master everything that had happened.

32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”(AB)

Now i see.
You were impregnated leading to your being disfellowshipped.
And you're crying wolf?
No wonder.
Repent young woman.
You still a window.

MaxInDHouse:
The young lady Rozz studied him diligently and found out that he's empty without the JWs.
Please try going through his comments on Nairaland and see if he ever make any meaningful comment in discussions. But whenever he finds people talking against JWs that's the time he'll pulp out of his den and start commenting as if he's the chairman of antijw group! Then he will start pasting publications as if that's what he's paid to come and do in Nairaland. And when you ask him to mention his church, he will go evasive as if he worships in Isolation not with people anymore!
A lady once told me that this same person still attends the meetings but his heart is totally against everything we're doing in the Organization. OK leave the group and find a better one, NO way!
I was surprised when i noticed his comment on a thread that's not about JWs, and my brother come and see the life of a real Apostate! Can you imagine this good for nothing idiot quoted the organization's publication as what everyone need to improve in their dealings with God?
So i asked him [b]"how come you can't find any publication of those you always takes side with instead of that of your prime enemy?

So my brother, his case is irredeemable because it's clear to me from that day that his sin against the spirit of truth is intentional! Luke 12:10

That's what they do.
Some criticize the witnesses but use our books in their teachings and seminars.
So am not surprised because even the devil himself quoted from the pages of the Bible a number of times.
Now he can't even identify himself with any religion hiding under the keyboard.
But he's an apostate.

achorladey:
When you answer the question I asked about that Jehovah that states citing and quoting old books of his ORGANIZATION is APOSTASY you are talking about resides specifically in your house, I will consider the post again.

Then you are yet to show me where I told you I left God. or where I deal with you in a wicked manner or had evil thought towards you. All this you have to defend. In addition, the part of the definition of APOSTASY that states citing and quoting old books of the religious organization you belong equates APOSTASY.

Then this.....

Therefore beginning from today, i cease to have any discussion with you because you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden

What should I do to it?

I told you i will no longer discuss with you.
But i can advise you.
Return to Jehovah.
Jesus loves you.
Go confess your sins and you'll be refreshed.

Acts 3:19 says:

19 “Repent, therefore, and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out, so that seasons of refreshing may come from Jehovah himself.

achorladey:
Committing suicide because of this loving arrangement shows that such a person doesn't value life and he has judged himself adversely without a resurrection

These one will be the ones to judge and decide who will be resurrected or not

Return to Jehovah.
There is still time.
See if you'll not be reinstated

Isaiah 55:7 says-

 7 Let the wicked man leave his way And the evil man his thoughts; Let him return to Jehovah, who will have mercy on him, To our God, for he will forgive in a large way.

Janosky:
Madam, there is a reason why James 5:14-16, 2 Corinthians 13: 7,11 & 2 Timothy 3:16 is in your Bible.
I have already explained the point to you-
Disfellowship is a last resort for erring unrepentant members.
Did God forgive unrepentant Sodom & Gomorrah ?
Numbers 16:23-26, Jehovah said: separate yourself from wicked men and do NOT touch anything that belongs to them....."
The same command repeated @ 2 Thess3:6 etc.
Your personal opinion can never change God's righteous standards.


Madam, you are misquoting the holy scriptures upandan.
Did Jesus Christ forgive Judas Iscariot?

Did Jehovah God forgive unrepentant sinners of Sodom/ Gomorrah?
A student was caught cheating in the exam hall & was disqualified,he takes his life.
Is the Exam invigilator responsible for the death of that student?
Should the Exam Board/invigilators allow exam fraud because some students could kill themselves if caught cheating?
Your spurious claims no make sense!

Madam,You can't prove that the inspired word of God @ 2 Thess3:6 & 2 John1:9-11 is not in your Bible.


1 Corinthians 10:6-11,Jehovah's forgiveness is not for unrepentant sinners/ murmurers.
Madam, you're supporting bad things Jehovah disapproves.

Good illustration you have there about the exam, cheating and invigilator.
Willful Unrepentant wrongdoers are not left else they'll corrupt the rest.

We're simply obeying God's commands.
In 1Corinthians 5:11-13

11 But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do you not judge those inside,

13 while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked person from among yourselves.”

But if the person turns from his evil way and repents, he is reinstated back into the Christian told again.

Proverbs 28:13 says

13 The one covering over his transgressions will not succeed, But whoever confesses and abandons them will be shown mercy.

And Luke 15:7 says

7 I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over 99 righteous ones who have no need of repentance.

This goes on to show that if one remains unrepentant there will be sadness in heaven so to speak, meaning that such person will not be forgiven no matter how religious he is.

So if we follow Bible principles, why will anyone have issues with that.
This has again shows that the majority of mankind have relegated God's word to the background.
Committing suicide because of this loving arrangement shows that such a person doesn't value life and he has judged himself adversely without a resurrection.
But as a group Jehovah's people will not abandon God's command.

haddeylium:
You made a fine comments. It seems you're new in this section. You're going to meet a lot them. Remember 'Shunning or whatever' is not topic of this thread. He's exhibiting human's nature 'trying to save face'
One thing I observed in this section is that 'People don't usually want to admit the truth when others are watching. Let it be in a different settings and he'll commend your efficacy in handling God's word.
But now, he will continue throwing labels like. I know you're right o but you shun, you're rapist, you're cultist bla bla
just laff



Nahhh
Definitely not!
He's just a product of misinformation and ignorance




Please, I beg you . Don't bring Jws elders this low .
Haba, I don't think he's even close to having priviledge of service. JWs elders(Even Ex-JWs elders) that I know are intelligent way than this oo
Sometimes, I sympathize with him cos' he wasn't raised up in the truth well, he really didn't have a chance to be taught correctly. he's bored with his new lifestyle. He has nowhere to go, he's still in love with this organization (even though he was divorced by it ). He's just trying to gratify himself and make himself feels good by throwing pathetic mud.
If you don't have time to waste like me, ignore him

Thank you and have a nice day

Thanks a million for your time bro.
All the points raised by you are valid
Possibly he wasn't grounded in the truth.
But you know what it means for someone to quote from the KS. It really have at u me a strong conviction that he may have served

achorladey:
Repent from old books or APOSTASY as defined as by your religious leaders. Which one?

Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His.

That's the link. Go back to it.

Janosky:
Na only JW thread dey make you high, we know the source of your addiction.
Please continue.

When the holy spirit left Saul, you know how he was behaving.

That's what i think is affecting him.

Janosky:
Worthy of note:
Rozz said Achorladey is a "snake man".
She no be Jehovah's Witness, but she saw that deceptive serpentine trait in him long time ago.
She no lie.

You see that?
A non witness was able to identify him.

Let him repent and return to Jehovah and Jehovah will take him in.

achorladey:
Worthy of note is when the teachings and publications of the organization you belong don't sit well with the scriptures are cited and quoted it becomes DECEPTION or called OLD BOOKS

I remember stating the below.....

You never know the set of people you have been conversing with so far. See how they have tagged everything into MALIGN, MISINFORMATION, DISCREDIT, LIES e.t.c about the religious organization they belong. Even when you show them right in their own publications how it is, they will still say it is HALF TRURH, MISINFORMATION, MALIGN, LIES. New one added OLD BOOKS

What was the response the next minutes that followed

Achorladey you are a wicked man ....... Janosky


After all citing and quoting old books your organization publish and print equates one being called APOSTATES ....... ospido

Repent and return to Jehovah

achorladey:
Janosky ......... achorladey is a wicked man

Janosky........... achorladey is enemy of the gospel of Jesus Christ

Janosky........... according to Rozz, achorladey is a snake man aka like the creature that deceived Eve

Janosky ......... Achorladey has the deceptive serpentine spirIt.

Ospido........you are an APOSTATE to the core

Ospido........for citing old books of the organization you belong achorladey you are an APOSTATE

ospido........ achorladey you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden..

TATIME............ achorladey is demon possessed

MaxInDHouse.......... achorladey is mad

MaxInDHouse......... achorladey is beast of no nation

MaxInDHouse........ achorladey is stupid

But the moment you say JWs are CULTISTS or exhibit cult like traits it becomes they say Jesus has a demon too and start making numerous comparison with themselves and Jesus to prove or show that they are followers of Christ.

What should I do then with all the above they attached to me without request?

Awon the only true religion people

Return to Jehovah while there's still time.

MaxInDHouse:
My brother, when dealing with ourselves we know our terms but when dealing with critics who are bent on calling good evil and evil good there is no need to be worried about terms. So far we know the benefits of practical application of God's word whatever the critic say shouldn't bother us because they'll always find faults with the truth.
Note how many times the lady (PrincessGlow) tried to shift the goal post from one accusation to another, but when it comes to disfellowshiping which herself and her Apostate friend feel like brandishing she discovered that all JWs agreed that it's our practice against unrepentant wrongdoers as God's word ordered us to do.
Now what have they got to say against God's word? Please listen to what they're saying in an undertone
"we know that you people are practicing what is written in the Bible but why can't you see that the Bible is wrong on this?"
So they're not ready to obey God's word rather what they want is for each and everyone to pick what suits him/her then there will be nothing like unism in thought and standard, since everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. Jehovah's Witnesses are like a thorn in the flesh of rebellious humans, they can all see the light as each JW is exerting himself/herself to live up to a standard that totally differs from human reasoning.
I learned a lot in the military, there we can use different terms for just one act, but when you begin to expatiate on each of the terms you'll find out that the purpose of such injunction would become meaningless. That's why we always say in the army "OBEY THE LAST ORDER" so no matter what happens you'll stand on the fact that you were ordered not what you thought is right.
No wonder JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES behaves like the military for real YES you people are the harmless soldiers of Christ!

Rightly said.

They have derailed the thread (Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His) and began to discuss non relevant issues, name calling, outright attacks on God's chosen people.
Yet they can't mention what religious group they belong to.
Even Jesus was attacked frontally and some even told him he has a demon. If that could happened to Christ, then who are we.
E dey pain them say they were disfellowshipped.
That's how Judas ended up and some came up with the "book of Judas". Who inspired him?
If they change their ways, they can return to Jehovah.

haddeylium:
Lol.
That question did put you through a lot of thinking. You did missed the point which is not unexpected.

Jehovah's witnesses do Jehovah’s Witnesses do not shun. We only disfellowship Jehovah’s Witnesses who repeatedly and unrepentantly engage in gross unchristian behavior.
We do so to obey Jesus Christ and his word through some of his apostles he appointed to teach (Matthew 18:15-17, 1 Corinthians 5:9–11,2 John 1:10–11) 'If any of those scriptures posed you difficulty, quote it and let's discuss it'

"Shunning" is a pejorative term used by some to stereotype religions who follow a Christian practice commanded by Jesus and his apostles. What Jehovah's Witnesses practice is disfellowshiping and not shunning.
Shunning as ascribed contains unchristian behavior and inhumane act like
Ejecting member from place of worship- A disfellowshiped person can still attends our meeting
Alient him and forcing him out of the family or home.- This is not so!

Don't let you opinion about us be model by bigots
Visit jw.org

I had explained to that young man (PrincessGlow) that disfellowship is a loving arrangement and that it is not excommunication, a term he said is a synonym to the latter.

I had explained to him exactly as you have. I also told him that we don't use the word excommunicate but rather disfellowship.

But what surprises me is that he came here and used another term shunning.
Something tells me that he is an apostate.
Same with achorladey who is also quoting from the pages of "Pay Attention to Yourselves and to all the Flock" showing that he's a former elder who may have been disfellowshipped in the past because he was unrepentant.
I have vowed never to discuss with him.

achorladey:
Where did the organization you belong get the below from since you agree that apostasy is abadoning JESUS CHRIST

Persons who deliberately spread (stubbornly hold to and speak about) teachings contrary to Bible truth as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses are apostates.” Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock p.94

Apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of God, actually a rebellion against Jehovah God. Some apostates profess to know and serve God but reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible but reject Jehovah's organization.” Reasoning From the Scriptures p.34

For you to have quoted from an old book Pay Attention to Yourselves...... actually have revealed to me beyond doubt that you're really an apostate.

It also revealed to me that you had served as an elder but was disfellowshipped from the Christian congregation because you were unrepentant.

Therefore beginning from today, i cease to have any discussion with you because you're not different from that creature that deceived Eve in the garden of Eden.

achorladey:
I don't need to see any illustration as it is of no relevance to the fact you say I don't understand what you posted earlier. I have returned back to bring it back and you decided this time not to go back into it. It tells me I got what you meant the first time.

Is it [b]synonymous or not? [/b]

Now i am getting to know you better

On a faceless forum like your friend Max use to say. Another

And until you include it, nothing you say here makes sense anymore

The get out clause just like the last time. Abi no be the same ospido

The illustration is more important than your question.
It is the illustration that brought out the salient points.
Why did you avoid it?

achorladey:
Perhaps your reasoning is beclouded by hate.Hate for Jehovah's witnesses.

ask your brother Janosky how he loves giving labels, tags and qualifiers every now and then . Out of the abundance of his heart he speaks You don't know where hatred start at all.

You do not understand what i asked Janosky about or do you?

The image below tells the remaining story Like your friend used to say me I no get sense.

I have told you and i will still tell you again and again that excommunication is alien to Jehovah's Witnesses as far as we are concerned with respect to the disfellowship

Excommunication is alien but the synonym is not alien abi?

I am telling you what we use.

When you see the image you will tell me if you agree with Janosky that excommunication is synonym to disfellowshiped or not?

And you succeeded and indeed you completely avoided the illustration i gave regarding the three arms of government.
Now i am getting to know you better.
And until you include it, nothing you say here makes sense anymore.

achorladey:
Apostate of whom?

bayi o mọ

Janosky:
Achorladey is a "snake man" (according to Rozz) who stopped serving Jehovah God.

An apostate to the core.

achorladey:
Here is your fellow brother sorry friend at 10: 00 pm as captured in the image below. Janosky don't remove that hand from your head oooo. Keep praying for that sense. You definitely need it.


Add this to it too

This one is still in the realm of ......maṣe ṣiyemeji mi

The abundance of your heart your mouth speaks. What is the mouth speaking as usual this time? Here it is

Everyone else will come Nairaland & learn something new & useful to them, but Achorladey will continue to WAIL & proven he lacks SENSE

Na from your mouth the word GIBBERISH emanate

I will say maṣe loye mi.
You get?
When i posted that image as attached i was merely asking Janosky if he was one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I even mentioned that @the bolded.
Why did you find it hard to understand me?
Anyway you cannot understand when two brothers converse.
You thought i was asking him about the word excommunicate when i have stated my position without mincing words?
Wake up.
Go ask any witness if they will tell you we use that word excommunicate when referring to an unrepentant wrongdoer who has been handled judicially.

achorladey:
I even help your carrier by quoting the scriptures you cited. You still keep tagging me as usual. I can only hope your hands are still placed on your head requesting for sense like you always post.

Luke 24:45
Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures.

What was under discussion had nothing to do with the scriptures but meaning of words (excommunication and disfellowshiped)

You were still even arguing about it as it applies to what the organization you belong teach you and your friend.

Perhaps your reasoning is beclouded by hate.
Hate for Jehovah's witnesses.
I have told you and i will still tell you again and again that excommunication is alien to Jehovah's Witnesses as far as we are concerned with respect to the disfellowship. I am telling you what we use.

It's like saying there are three arms of government namely the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary.
But because Executive has a synonym called Directorial, you now say the three arms of government are: Directorial, Legislature and Judiciary.
How will a man who is in government or a student of government view you?
Remember that directorial is alien when those three words are used.
Can you apply this illustration?

You do not understand what i asked Janosky about or do you?

Janosky:

My Bro, for where ?
My brother ospido no go disfellowship him brother Janosky

We JWs prefer to use the term "disfellowship", but fact is "excommunicate" & "disfellowship " are synonyms, that is, words with related or similar meanings.
See the screenshot attached....

Jah bless you!

@ the highlighted text

MaxInDHouse:
My brother, please meditate on this:



Please do you think this person is worshiping anything apart from demons?

What she's saying is everything has been programmed and there is no escape but Jesus (God's only begotten son) speaks as if people can make choices regarding their future?

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it"

Matthew 7:13-14

Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able.

Luke 13:24

So she doesn't know that the demon in her has been exposed, therefore if we are chatting with her without telling her she will feel more comfortable to continue spewing the gibberish those demons infused in her brain! Proverbs 20:5 compare to Hebrews 4:12

You said it all my dear brother.
A faceless person cannot claim to be serving God Jehovah but the demons.
Let's keep building our faith in Jesus and His wonderful promises.
That way we'll be counted worthy to be among those to enjoy the blessings under the kingdom rule.