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Hahahahahaha

The Catholic Church are masters at demonizing critics of the Pope.

Now we can see where Jehovah's Witnesses borrowed their shunning of "apostates" from.

Lol.

The cardinal is now being demonized just because he dared to accuse the Pope of wrongdoing.

No matter the religion, once you dare go against the leadership, you're automatically demonized.

MaxInDHouse:
Your friend has been silenced! Isaiah 54:17

How did you silence him?

You have started boasting again.

An empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

Do you think everyone eats and sleeps on Nairaland like you do?

Knowing many like him who aren't with God's organization with all their hearts {Mark 12:29-30} in the family he thought he has seen it all.

Now he's secretly learning some things he never heard among God's people because he was only growing physically but spiritually he is a dwarf who remains the same way he is just counting years among God's people.

So if he is only a "dwarf spiritually", how on earth did he become an Elder?

I thought the holy spirit selects people to become Elders - do you know more than the "holy spirit"?

Or are you trying to say that the "holy spirit" made a mistake?

Let him respond to the truth and prove that it's all about attending meetings that makes people part of JEHOVAH'S sheep.

He never made any comment like this.

Stop making up things in your head.

Jesus sent his disciples to go in search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} and how do we recognize this ones?

They may be found among hooligans, violent people, alcoholics, witches, wizards, prostitutes, armed robbers, fraudsters, hired killers and ritualists.

YES they can be found anywhere but what is the message that strikes them in their hearts?

GOD'S ORGANIZATION!

I wonder why you only quoted Mathew 10:6.

Why didn't you quote verse 8 that said: "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay." - is your religious organization doing any of this today?

But I digress.

To clarify for the public, when Max says "God's Organization" he is actually speaking about the Man-made Business Cooperation called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.

"God's Organization" = Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

Now can you show me the specific verse in the bible where Jesus asked his disciples to search for people to join an "organization" aka Watchtower?

Once they discover that God is real through the activities of His imperfect worshipers such ones begin to feel sober for all their past deeds and once they learn that God knows they did all those things due to frustration and He is willing to accept them they will become the meekest ever to OBEY God's representatives.

Where did God ask you to OBEY human representatives?

Acts 5:29 - "But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men."

Psalm 146:3 - "Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save"

Should we OBEY God?

OR

Should we OBEY the Governing Body of the Watchtower Organization who cannot save?

So when you look at their outward appearance they're useless to God but Jehovah reads hearts He knows they will serve as precious gems in His organization.

So if God read hearts, who are you call wumiwumi100 a "spiritual dwarf"?

Are you God who can read hearts?

But as many as those born and raised in God's organization who doesn't feel the emptiness that there's no other place to go if they should leave God's organization {John 6:68-69} of course such ones are useless to our God! Hebrews 10:38

John 6:68-69 - Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

Are you now saying that the Watchtower Organization is equal to Jesus Christ?

The words of Peter in the verse above were crystal clear - he was not speaking about an "organization" aka Watchtower.

chieveboy:
Oh there is infact. That it speaks of stuff which science today calls "remote viewing" and also uses sounds which science today applies as HAARP gives you a clear line of sight at things, except of course if you have that log of wood in your eyes.



When they use technology to achieve something similar to what Eckists call "Soul Travel", they of their own volition sudden realize "boy, there is something out there". From Atheism, the become mystics straight believers! This is what this OP meant by "advanced physicists become mystics". It's not via evangelism... or blind belief

In 1999, the National Institute of Health Published a a paper in the use of Vibroacoustic therapy for addressing pain and symptoms which accompany anxiety and depression with positive results.




Very true, but when in your sciencing, you touch 'high tension' as explained in the above paragraphs, you have to bend low.

I am reluctant to lead you to real science sources, I would have pointed you to another direction again on how far science are bridging the gap between religion and science. I will focus on your preferred prejudice with Eckankar however.




I have , the problem I am facing is the one I have been facing. For instance, I will give you another link. Again.

This time, the source is the CIA. It pertain to a research they conducted on how a human can cause things to manifest from thin air. I. Other words, do a "miracle". To summarize it, one has to combine their right and left part of their brain to become one, as in Jesus saying "except thine eyes become single, thou shall not enter the kingdom of God" or so.

More summary: for one to achieve this 'Hemispheric sync' or "HemiSync" of the brain, one has to use frequencies. I. Layman terms, one sings HU or pay money to use the product in Hemi-sync.com (which the very CIA referenced in the below research findings )


CIA (.gov)
https://www.cia.gov › docsPDF
ANALYSIS AND ASSESSMENT OF GATEWAY PROCESS.

Pleas come back and let's talk o. I have provided several of these resources in the past and you have this knack of carrying the log of wood in your eyes.



Let me tell you something. You see that research above by the CIA? This was in the 1940s o. We're not even talking of what they and others know behind the scenes that is yet to make it's way to Textbook you're still waiting for or spiting in order for it to reach Eckankar...



The world has since moved beyond mainstream science. The are heading towards Eckankar real fast.

First they move without moving (Remote Viewing), Second, they play sounds to put themselves in certain states of consciousness as I. That CIA document, Rife, etc.
Third the techs which run HAARP, MRI, etc are all frequency-based. You're the one still here sir.




Oh billions of people in Eckankar, Bhudism and similar paths have caught the word the use of sound for any goal out there. It has been used in healing, to power machines, etc much like Tesla. No effort from you can prove otherwise .



Here is the link again.

https://www.rife.de/an-interview-with-rife.html



Na wetim we dey talk since, but something no gree you understand. That it's a science which anyone can try to replicate anywhere without need for referencing or affiliation .

Eckists just need to say oya, go and try this. The CIA now happened on it and another company a multi-million dollar company runs by selling these sounds all HU-sounding to people on Hemi-sync.com



Oya the CIA and Hemi Sync and Ride has explained why Eckist use sound frequencies.

Oya call the CIA, Eckankar and Hemisync pseudoscience. Call the American National Institute of Health Pseudoscientists

Digest and come back sir. Thank you very much. I have one job: tomorrow to you that you are today simply rejecting a science because paths like Eckankar are pioneering it.

Na him make them dey leave you behind

This thread is quite educative and thought provoking.

I have seen the CIA document about Hemi Syncing.

The Monroe Institute has some serious research around HemiSync where the left and right hemispheres of the brain are "synced" to create states of awareness similar to what Monks can achieve in deep meditation.

I have also read about remote viewing and how the CIA and other intelligence organizations around the world use it to peer into the past and future - all they need are just coordinates.

I have read about Ingo Swann and his great strides with remote viewing.

I have also read a CIA document where during a remote viewing session, the viewer traveled to the planet Mars and reportedly conversed with some Martians - I kid you not.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

achorladey:
That Australia Royal commission na eye opener in this religious organization. Anyone that wants his ears full should just go for the video during Jackson session, those two branch committee members then one elder and finally the Catholic woman brought in to defend them


You can imagine a governing body member that just didn't jump into becoming a member of the Governing Body lying that........

It is quite shocking.

They even brought a member of Babylon the Great to defend them in court!!

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What an absolute joke of a religion.

wumiwumi100:
You are not making sense. You are just spewing gibberish.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

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achorladey:
Stewart goes on to present a hypothetical in which a JW who chooses not to formally disassociate and face shunning from his friends and family is caught by congregation elders celebrating Christmas or a birthday (customs considered by JWs to be part of false religion and detestable to God).

Stewart: They would be found to be in transgression of the rules, would they not?

Jackson: That is not my understanding. But again, as I said, it is not my field, that goes into policy with regard to those types of things, but from my personal experience, that’s not the case.

Stewart (indignantly): Mr. Jackson, you say it’s not your field, but you are a member of the Governing Body which is responsible, as you have said, for the whole field, and you have been a member for 10 years, and all the committees are responsible to and accountable to the Governing Body.

Jackson: That is correct.




You see how a governing body member can lie under oath

To be continued........

Can you imagine these outright shameless LIES from a Governing Body member?

He LIED under oath!

No wonder MaxInDHouse, Janosky and Aemmyjah are such profound LIARS.

They are following the strict example of their Governing Body.

What a show of shame!

achorladey:
The nude picture wey you Oteneaaron see this evening on this thread na celestial church of christ member share am?

Wetin be your answer?

The guy no sabi reason. It is not OK for wunmi to share but OK for MaxInDHouse to share


What a load of hypocrisy.

Na Jehovah's Witness member share am oo.

MaxInDHouse:
He's now your brother in atheism nah so enjoy his company i'm not your brother so why should i share confidential things with someone who is neither an elder nor even a brother but an apostate!

Interesting.

Now that you have admitted that you have access to "confidential things", don't come and claim tomorrow that you don't have a Clergy Class.

Just like in screct societies where the higher your degree, the more "confidential things" you have access to.

He is an Elder and he has shown us proof.

Show us your evidence or else stop claiming to be an Elder.

wumiwumi100:
That is the Watchtower doctrine for you: anyone who disagrees with the Governing Body must be shunned and hated.

For those who doubt me, here is a screenshot of my JW account. The information shown is only accessible by the Elders.

Evidence choke.

Maxindhouse can you show us a screenshot of your own JW account to prove that you're truly an Elder as well?

This should be interesting.

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MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for commenting!

Thanks for reading!

MaxInDHouse:
And it's OK for a member of God's organization to share nude pictures on social media shey?

Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to make money from the sale of weapons, tobacco cigarettes and the porn industry?

Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to use the two witness rule to protect pedophiles who rape children in the organization?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to accept free money from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to be registered members of the United Nations for 10 years even when the United Nations is the scarlet colored wild beast?

If you agree that it is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to do these things without any repercussion, then you have no right to question wumiwumi100.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

MaxInDHouse:
Please edit the derogatory names leave that for them.

What the apostate doesn't know is that Maximus has been fortified with wisdom and knowledge that no enemy of God's organization can silence rather we are the one that will silence apostates and render them speechless.. Isaiah 54:17
Of course there is room for insults but strong points no one can deby nah JWs get am!

HYPOCRISY is smelling.

Look at this man that has insulted many people on Nairaland trying to form holy.

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Just a little poke and your true nature will be revealed.

We know your modus operandi.

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MaxInDHouse:
Of course they took away all the immoral lifestyles you are longing for now shey?

Abeg comot for God's organization and allow the humble ones seeking righteousness to enjoy God's organization!

I purposely ignored your thread after knowing who you are:

https://www.nairaland.com/8121602/13-critical-thinking-questions-every

If you're into pornography to the extent of joining the SEX section on Nairaland and posting nude pictures.
What profitable thing can come from you to benefit those seeking righteousness? Zephaniah 2:2-3

Shame on you Max.

Why didn't you take a screenshot of all the threads he has ever created?

It is quite obvious that around 2016, wumiwumi100 was managing a blog called - evernaija(dot)com.

As a blogger, it is your goal to publish content that is intriguing enough to send massive traffic to your blog.

More traffic = Ad revenue.

Anyone who goes through his profile can reach the same conclusion.

Here you are trying to throw dirt on his personality just because he wants to leave your religion after doing his research and learning about the many LIES of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Shame on you for being so petty.

Your hypocrisy will not allow you rememeber that even your religion is making money from the sale of weapons, tobacco cigarettes and pornography - this is a FACT because there is evidence to prove this.

wumiwumi100:
Bro, try to reason well. All my life I have been taught not to make friends with anyone outside the organization. I was baptized at the age of 10, became a Ministerial Servant at 19, and an Elder at 25. Earlier this year, I came to understand why I can't trust the Governing Body anymore. My difficulty in making friends was due to Watchtower's brainwashing teachings. I am thankful that I am making progress in making new friends, and by the end of this year, I will say goodbye to the organization that took all my youth away.

Maxindhouse cannot relate with you.

It is your shoes, you alone knows where it pinches.

You're right when you said that your inability to have friends outside the religion is as a result of their weekly brainwashing and indoctrination.

How can you make friends outside the religion when you were taught that all non-JWs are "worldy" people?

You were taught to see billions of non-JWs as "goats" who if they don't accept Watchtower and become a baptized JW, they stand the risk of been KILLED in the war of Armageddon where birds would eat their decomposing flesh.

Stay strong.

You have won half of the battle by recognizing the many LIES of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Remember that you're never alone - there are many others like you with similar experiences and they're thriving even after they left this religious cult.

Be open minded, learn to see the good in others and always remember that we're all brothers and sisters, no matter our religion, tribe or race.

Cheers bro!

I love the music!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rET0jxCjo?si=iY5p4zPmJPD-BIlw

Wow.

Congratulations to him and his church.

The Nigerian Gospel Music Industry is growing quite fast.

With this music video uploaded on Facebook TV and YouTube, a few million views should rack in some good revenue.

Interesting to see the power of the creator economy in action.

wumiwumi100:
I am currently serving as an Elder in my congregation, but the truth is that everything about us is based on lies. All our predictions have proven to be false since 1879 up to today.

Please try to do personal research about the Jehovah's Witness religion, its origins, 607 BCE, 1914, 1918, and Beth Sarim.

The only reason I have not disassociated myself is because of my family and friends; I don't want to be shunned by them.

Beth Sarim was a huge scandal related with the 1925 false prophecy.

J. F Rutherford was living large in Beth Sarim while the rest of JWs were bitten hard by the great depression.

wumiwumi100:
I am currently serving as an Elder in my congregation, but the truth is that everything about us is based on lies. All our predictions have proven to be false since 1879 up to today.

Please try to do personal research about the Jehovah's Witness religion, its origins, 607 BCE, 1914, 1918, and Beth Sarim.

The only reason I have not disassociated myself is because of my family and friends; I don't want to be shunned by them.

Wow.

I can understand the fear of been shunned by your family members.

Congratulations for learning the truth about the "truth".

achorladey:
You are a known liar and your works didn't start today....

The above is a lie you have always said your religious organization is not part of the 41000 religious group teaching conflicting and contradicting doctrines.

cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz, FxMasterz

Lol.

Why is it so easy for him to tell lies?

So Jehovah's Witnesses are now part of the 41k religious groups?

They are no more the only true religion?

Wonders shall never end.

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Courz:
The Governing body have so many reasons to be in Panic mode.

1) More JWs are waking up and leaving, leaving behind empty Kingdom halls to sell.

2) They are being exposed in the media and social media for different offences and JWs are seeing It

3) In their broadcasting updates, they are always replying Apostates who are their biggest threats. They are always addressing the concerns of Apostates. It is as if their broadcasts are now being used to reply the accusations from different JWs questioning them. They know that once JWs start to question them, they are finished.

4) More and more JWs that newly leave the Cult are creating YouTube channels to expose them. I'm happy to see the new faces.

Anyone who is the subject of the above will be very scared.

Hahahahaha

You summed it up perfectly.

Less members means less money for the organization and they can't have that.

The money needs to keep pouring in.

Courz:
They are not interested in protecting children. They are only interested in protecting their fake image and their precious pedophiles.

Exactly.

Because protecting children means reporting their pedophiles to the police and reporting to the police will bring "reproach on Jehovah's ame".

MaxInDHouse:
Cry cry baby!

Tell everyone on this forum that you don't want Jehovah's Witnesses to come and answer you!

See me see wahala.

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Maxindhouse did I tag you on this thread?

Did I tag any Jehovah's Witness on this thread?

Courz:
CSA means Child Sexual Abuse.

Sanctions against the Watchtower Organization and Jehovah's Witnesses after attorneys for Child Sexual abuse victims discovered that the Jehovah's Witnesses intentionally destroyed critical evidence.

https://www.jwchildabuse.org/document/410-0-order-on-sanctions-for-watchtower-new-york-spoilation-of-evidence/

Thank you for bringing this to our notice.

I will check out the court documents now.

Child sexual abuse is a crime against children.

Instead of this religion to protect the children, they protect the abusers instead with the Two Witness Rule.

MaxInDHouse:
When your fellow apostate first started that thread on the first day of this month you were all so optimistic that the thread will attract the attention of many but till today 16th day of June it's still the second page with few of your kind trying to woo commentators into joining you on the thread!

I told you guys that you people can't do a single thing without Jehovah's Witnesses.

No JW is coming to cool you people's thirst on that thread! Luke 16:24-26

Did the OP invite any JW?

Did the OP tag you?

Why can't you follow the command given to you by the Governing Body?

Why are you even commenting here in the first place?

Did I tag you to this thread?

achorladey:
What getting free under the captive of a concept does

The information had the result of freeing
them from a false sense of guilt created by the concept that their service to God must be through an organization, that is, specifically through the Watch Tower organization. It served to dispel the feeling of being cut off from God solely because of being cut off by, or having separated from, that organization.

Captives of a concept.

MaxInDHouse:
[s]Before the year 1914 there were few religions globally in fact the recognized religions were less than 40 throughout the earth but after that year only one religion (Christianity) began increasing speed in denominations and today there are over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians!

Before that year there were no records of men or women performing miracles up and down apart from what was recorded in the Bible but after the year 1914 Nigeria alone has recorded over 100 miracle workers all claiming they're for Christ yet they have continued to contradict themselves in teachings and doctrines!

Before the year 1914 the world's political system has been relatively stable with just nations having regional disputes as a result of land grabbing but after that year countries far away from one another started having issues when they don't even share the same boarder!

Before the year 1914 the world's economy is stable as production of food and other things necessary for human survival was the priority of 99% of rulers in all lands but after that year rulers in all the earth have spent billions of dollars amassing destructive devices and maintaining a large number of able bodied men and women who are only trained to kill their fellow humans so agriculture suffers due to neglect from world leaders and famine which supposed to be as a result of infertility of the soil grew speedily throughout the earth causing inflation globally.

WHY did all these happened after the year 1914?

We Jesus said by the time he begins ruling from heaven WARS will break out throughout the earth {Matthew 24:7} because his first assignment as God's chosen king is to drive away Satan and demons from heaven and their next destination will be planet earth {Revelations 12:7-12} demons are rebellious angels so by the time they bombard the earth with rage they will possess human rulers in all the earth so you can see what led to the first world war in the year 1914!


False Prophets will multiply speedily because there will be confusion globally so many people will like to consult spiritualists on what lies ahead and since God's work is all about gathering faithful and obedient mankind for their salvation who will anxious people turn to?
YES you guess right! The agents of Satan!
So demons gave many different powers peculiar to what the people in different regions makes their priority![/s]

We don't need all these long stories.

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Without 607 BCE there would be no 1914 and without 1914, your religion ceases to exist - this is a FACT.

Spin it all you want.

Jerusalem was destroyed 587 BCE - you can never hide this indisputable FACT.

FACTS don't LIE.

MaxInDHouse:
What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!

Hahahahahahahaha

Mr profile checker!

Jerusalem was NOT destroyed in 607 BCE!

The entire foundation of your religion is based on 1914.

Without 607 BCE there would be no 1914 and without 1914, your religion ceases to exist - this is a FACT.

The Governing Body has deceived you.

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Edybleketara:
Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

Hahahahahahaha

The foundation of his entire religion and faith is based on 1914.

Without the doctrine of 1914, the entire JW religion is utterly destoyed.

Their religion claims that after Jesus came back in 1914 and "started ruling in heaven", he chose their religion in 1919 as "the only true religion".

But 1914 is a LIE - which means that 1919 is even a bigger LIE.

No 1914, no 1919 - it is that simple.

Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BCE and this is a FACT.

No matter how many names he calls me, in fact even if he calls me a pagan, it doesn't change the fact that Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BCE!

FACTS don't LIE.

QED.

MaxInDHouse:
Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting!

Loooool

E pain the guy!

Since you're the owner of Nairaland why don't you just delete my comment?

There is no need for the name calling - you know that I'm not an atheist.

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You're entire faith is based on 1914 and this has been proven to be a big fat LIE.

oteneaaron:
Is the above statement factual?

Do you have evidence prove that historians and archeologists who use scientific methodologies are all wrong?

I asked Google Gemini AI tool and this is what it clearly stated -

"No, the statement is not factual. Historians generally agree that 587 BCE is the most likely year for the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem. There are several lines of evidence that support this date, including Babylonian chronicles and biblical texts.

While there are some minority viewpoints on the exact date, the vast majority of historians accept 587 BCE. The scholarly community is open to new evidence and differing interpretations, but there's no indication that they're rejecting a correction simply because it comes from Jehovah's Witnesses."

MaxInDHouse:
587 B.C.E. is an error by historians but they're not ready to accept the correction because it's coming from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

I was still curious, so I asked the AI another question -

Can you show me the biblical text that proves 587BCE as right?

Here was the answer -

"The Bible itself doesn't provide a definitive date for the fall of Jerusalem. However, several biblical passages are consistent with the 587 BCE date established through historical records.

Here's an example:

2 Kings 25:8-9 (NIV) describes the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar breaching the walls of Jerusalem and burning the temple "in the eleventh year of Zedekiah king of Judah, on the tenth day of the tenth month."

This passage aligns with Babylonian chronicles that mention the capture of Jerusalem in Nebuchadnezzar's 7th regnal year. Since Babylonian kings typically ascended the throne in the spring, this would correspond to the late fall or winter of 588 BCE.

Adding a year to account for the difference between Babylonian and Judean regnal years points to 587 BCE.

MaxInDHouse:
587 B.C.E. is an error by historians but they're not ready to accept the correction because it's coming from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Is the above statement factual?

Do you have evidence prove that historians and archeologists who use scientific methodologies are all wrong?

I asked Google Gemini AI tool and this is what it clearly stated -

"No, the statement is not factual. Historians generally agree that 587 BCE is the most likely year for the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem. There are several lines of evidence that support this date, including Babylonian chronicles and biblical texts.

While there are some minority viewpoints on the exact date, the vast majority of historians accept 587 BCE. The scholarly community is open to new evidence and differing interpretations, but there's no indication that they're rejecting a correction simply because it comes from Jehovah's Witnesses."