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FxMasterz:
Hmm. No university education? Na wá o. What doctrine did they peddle against university education too?

In JW lingua, they call University - "Higher Education"

Here is a direct quotes from their own publication -

Watchtower 2019 Jun pp.6-7 -
"Satan appeals to natural desires. We have a natural desire to learn skills that can help us provide for ourselves and our families. (1 Tim. 5: Often, we can gain those skills by attending school and being diligent students.

But we must be cautious. The educational system in many countries teaches students not only practical skills but also human philosophy. Students are encouraged to question the existence of God and to disregard the Bible. They are told that the theory of evolution is the only intelligent explanation for the origin of life. (Rom. 1:21-23) Such teachings are opposed to “the wisdom of God.”—1 Cor. 1:19-21; 3:18-20.

Human philosophy ignores or contradicts Jehovah’s righteous standards. It does not nurture the fruitage of God’s spirit but, rather, “the works of the flesh.” (Gal. 5:19-23) It generates pride and arrogance, and the result is that people become “lovers of themselves.” (2 Tim. 3:2-4) These qualities are the opposite of the meek, humble spirit that God’s servants are encouraged to have. (2 Sam. 22:28) Some Christians who have pursued university education have had their minds molded by human thinking rather than by God’s thinking.

Let us consider just one example of what can happen.

A sister who has been in full-time service for over 15 years says: “As a baptized Witness, I had read and heard about the dangers of pursuing university education, but I dismissed such warnings. I thought that the counsel did not apply to me.” What challenges did she face? She admits: “Studying for my courses took so much time and effort that I was too busy to linger in prayer to Jehovah the way I used to, too exhausted to enjoy Bible discussions with others, and too tired to prepare well for the meetings. Thankfully, once I realized that being immersed in higher education was damaging my relationship with Jehovah, I knew I had to stop. And I did.

What effect did higher education have on this sister’s thinking? She answers: “I am ashamed to admit that the education I pursued taught me to be critical of others, especially my brothers and sisters, to expect too much of them, and to isolate myself from them. It took me a long time to unlearn these lessons. That time in my life showed me just how dangerous it is to ignore the warnings given by our heavenly Father through his organization. Jehovah knew me better than I knew myself. If only I had listened"

What does the above quote tell you @FxMasterz?

I have more quotes to prove that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is vehemently against acquiring University Education.

FxMasterz:
You're right. Maxindhouse also does that very well. Aemmyjah does it with a lot of subtilty. If you're not grounded in the Word, you would not notice it. It's their logo in that cult. I don't know much about Cornelboy.

Bro, as far as you're a baptized, active and fanatic JW, lies and manipulations would be your forte.

It's all part of their bi-weekly indoctrination meetings and I say this from experience.

When you swallow their doctrine hook line and sinker, that means you accept the teachings of the Governing Body even when it makes no reasonable sense.

That is why the Governing Body is vehemently against going to the University or even doing independent research because without CRITICAL THINKING, you would continue to swallow their LIES and MANIPULATIONS which they term - "Spiritual Food at the Proper Time"

achorladey:
WEREY peddling brains sneak lies and manipulations into it like he usually peddle fraud using his mumu and no get sense peddling brains



When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, “Surely the Lord’s anointed stands here before the Lord.

He thought thought thought not prophesied Liar and manipulator doing what this main thread was all about

cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, FxMasterz

This typically what Courz was addressing all this while. They will cook a doctrine, then doctor the Bible by manipulating the words to fit that doctrine



Lies and manipulations from your werey peddling brains. He didn't gave a false prophecy but thought



His thought was corrected not the prophecy that the next king will be from the house of Jesse Na fraud peddling full that your werey peddling brains .



Janosky aka JaNosense remove fraud from your werey peddling brains and stop peddling wailings and no get sense on nairaland

Thank you for exposing his LIES.

This is a perfect example to show that Jehovah's Witnesses in reality, worship the Governing Body - because this is exactly how the GB lies and manipulate words just to rienforce a doctrine.

This also proves time and time again that they are FALSE PROPHETS.

NONE of their prophecies have ever came to pass.

The world didn't end in 1914

The world didn't end in 1925

The world definitely didn't end in 1975!

Deuteronomy 18:22

"If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed."

MaxInDHouse:
Haaaaaaaaaaa just to refresh your memory we no longer shun people who leaves our group so we can actually talk to them it's socializing that we won't do with them.

Let me see how mad you will be this time!

This is a big LIE.

Governing Body member Mark Sanderson was very clear in his instructions.

You are now allowed say a "greeting" to people who were disfellowshipped for "serious sins", but you are still expected to completely shun "apostates".

You can't even follow simple instructions from your Governing Body.

You know very well that by just being on this thread debating with "apostates", you are disobeying the Governing Body and this can make you lose your position, get reproved or worse case, disfellowshipped.

Moreso, we all know the Governing Body announced this "new light" after their massive loss in Norway.

One day, your activities on Nairaland will be exposed to your congregation - it's just a matter of time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl5nKRE88rA?si=eU_ED9KHAkitlP6z

Courz:
These are from reputable Scholars who studied Biblical Hebrew and Greek languages and could see the manipulated verses in the JW Bible. Unlike the JW translators who knew nothing about the languages. It is such a shame that Watchtower went to misquote a Scholar and the scholar threatened them. No single scholar takes the New World Translation seriously. It is not a Bible. It is a JW doctrine book. Period.

Thanks for this Oteneaaron.

You're welcome, bro!

You're doing a great job with this thread.

Emusan:
So, you agree Jws didn't invent anything.

But you want the whole world to be like Jws

If the world was filled with only JWs, we would have a world worse than the Dark Ages when the Catholic Church held sway.

Some of us would have been burnt or stoned to death for daring to speak against the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Emusan:
That is it!

And the funny thing is that, if you see Watchtower talking about other, you'll think they are so vast in the knowledge of the written languages of the Bible.

Meanwhile, what they are doing is just like permutation, go to the library of the so called CHRISTENDOM copy their works and even DELIBERATELY MISQUOTED them just to continue to deceive their followers.

Do you know that Dr B.M Metzger @Oteneaaron made reference to has to personally wrote letter to Watchtower to stop using his work because of manipulation. The same with Professor George Howard.

Watchtower published a booklet titled Should you believe in the Trinity?

You won't believe the lies and misquotes full that booklet just because they want to proof trinity isn't Biblical, as people begin to call them out they have to withdraw the booklet.

Below is the letter George Howard wrote to clarify they usage of his work by Watchtower, read it and see the self acclaimed ONLY TRUE CHRISTIAN and mouthpiece of God being exposed.

WOW

Funny enough, I still remember going out to preach and distribute that particular Trinity brochure.

I still shudder when I realize I was busy distributing magazines, books, tracts, and brochures filled with LIES and misquotations.

Most times when I pray, I ask God to forgive me for spreading LIES to people back when I was still a JW - I had no idea.

But ignorance is not an excuse - that is why I am bullish about exposing the LIES of Watchtower and doing extensive research into the true origins of Christianity, and religion in general.

Once beaten, twice shy.

What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :

Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

Dr. Julius Mantey , author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation...Obsolete and incorrect...It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god...I have never read any New Testament so badly translated as The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Greek Scriptures.... it is a distortion of the New Testament. The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137) the translators of the NWT are "diabolical deceivers." (Julius Mantey in discussion with Walter Martin)

Source: http://catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/neworld.htm

CC: Courz, FxMasterz, Achorladey, Emusan

Here is yet another video where the presenter showcases the verses available in other translations but exempted from the JW Bible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvlAfhwwew?si=99yTPO_i8AmPN0ge

Why did they subtract these verses from their own translation??

This is SERIOUS!

CC: Emusan, Achorladey, Courz, FxMasterz

FxMasterz:
Oh, they have a different name for it? Interesting!

Yes they call it - "The New Word Translation of the Holy Scriptures"

Why didn't they simply call it the "Holy Bible" like countless other translations?

Makes you think right?

Hey Courz, check out this video!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2yENjWGvc?si=qMsTMiFUw8LAEPS_

The lady asked a very important question - Why didn't JWs call their translation a "Bible"?

Once again, this is a great thread.

CC: Emusan, Achorladey, FxMasterz

achorladey:
Going into areas I didn't request.



You have a problem with that and it bothers you a lot that you were disturbing yourself with pastors.



Researcher it took you how many days to deliver this. Now go and present it to Courz and make sure this time it is dissection of the verse in question not Tinubu and MKO Abiola

Is AutoConsult a JW?

jazzman7711:
There were no writers named ‘Matthew’, ‘Mark’, ‘Luke’ and ‘John’.

Those names were simply attached to ANONYMOUSLY written texts.

So nobody actually knows who wrote the New Testament.

It’s completely anonymous!

The texts materialised from goodness-knows-where roughly 70 years after ‘Jesus’ had supposedly ‘ascended to heaven’.

All this is well known to the church, ie the Vatican etc.

You're absolutely right, but not everyone will believe you - do you know why?

It is because you didn't share your sources or evidence to prove your statement.

How will people confirm what you have mentioned above?

State your sources so that serious minded people can do their own research and if possible, arrive at the same conclusion you did.

It is good that you have decided to do some research into the true origins of Christianity.

Bravo!

People are just being misled with this christianity of a thing.

How can you be worshiping something and yet you don’t know who wrote the book?

On this, I would disagree with you.

Christianity in its pure original form without the stigma of literalism, is NOT misleading.

Yes, the Gospels might not be actual history, but the essence or spirit behind the teaching of the God-in-Man is as old as humanity itself.

Go deeper into your research and you will see that the motiffs found in the story of Jesus in the gospels are not original and can be found in many other so called "pagan" religions from. antiquity.

The idea is simple - Within each human lies the spark of the divine or the Logos and just like Christ, we too can become "one with the Father" and realize our true identity.

Check this out - https://www.nairaland.com/8045588/logos-word

FxMasterz:
So, who decides the technicalities about how we Christians should be climbing our wives? What are the types of beds or mats we christians must use whenever we want to do it? Are there certain room lightenings that we should avoid?

Well, the Jehovah's Witnesses have rules of engagement when it comes to making love to your own wife.

Just like their flip flop doctrines, they have been confused on whether it is right for married couples to engage in oral & anaal sex.

In 1974, it was a disfellowshipping offence for married couples.

In 1978, it was no longer a disfellowshipping offence for married couples.

In 1983, it once again became a disfellowshipping of fence for married couples.

Since 2011, they have been vague about this.

For direct quotes from their publications, see this article - https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/oral-anal-sex.php

Imagine a religion that dictates how you should sleep with your own wife!

😁😁

Aemmyjah:
Did I tag you either
You're just like him

So does this prove that Oteneaaron and Courz are the same person?

What relevance or benefit do you bring or have gained on NL
I have read your comments on Jesus, Bible and others on the NL

Why are you worried about what benefit I have given or gained on Nairaland?

Are you the Nairaland Benefit Prefect?

Why don't worry you about yourself?

My comments on Jesus, the Bible, and Religion in general are based on the evidence from my research - if you have counter evidence, bring it and prove me wrong - it is that simple.

Courz should have boldly told you that you'll go to hellfire but what envy can join two parties like marriage

Courz and I are not members of a cult group - we are free to have opposing ideas and concepts - or do you expect Courz to shun me because some of my ideas might clash with his?

Aemmyjah:
Is Max mad?
Am I a fornicator?

If a mad man calls you a lunatic, will you ask him for evidence?
An atheist asked courz to provide evidence of God, his only evidence is that he escaped one chance motor

Are you a Christian or an atheist or traditional worshipper?
You're just fooling around

Are you asking me?

Did I call you a "fornicator"?

Did I call Max Mad?

Don't be a coward.

Face Courz and ask him for the EVIDENCE!

Moreso, why does it matter to you if I am a Christian, Atheist or Traditional worshiper?

Aemmyjah:
Well
It's sanity on you, to call Max mad and address me as fornicator without evidence

Then ask him for EVIDENCE!

MaxInDHouse has LIED for over a year that Courz and myself are the same person - I have asked him evidence countless times but he still hasn't provided it and yet, he keeps spreading that LIE.

Ask Courz to show you evidence on why he calls you a "fornicator".

You don't have to dish out insults or curses to prove a point.

Michael547:
Ok now that you've come out I believe you.
Now can you please answer the question below.

Are other Christians apart from JWs in the right part? If yes, where do they meet so that I can join them to worship God the right way?

Mr courz have been unable to answer it even when he said That the teachings of the JWs are different from other Christians.

I am not playing this Q and A game with you.

Why don't you ask MaxInDHouse to show you evidence to support his LIE or are you scared of him?

Courz is the owner of this thread and he has laid a huge allegation - with evidence against your religion and your translation of the Bible.

Why don't you counter his allegations with your own evidence?

That is why this thread was created in the first place - stop trying to derail the thread by acting half-witted.

Aemmyjah:
You be mumu
I sabi your game
Stupid liar
Mention one that is telling the truth na if I'm being taught lies

Can you not speak without dishing out insults?

Can you not debate with sanity?

Why the curse words?

Michael547:
Oh really...hmmmm....na wa oo.

Are you really this gullible?

You accepted falsehood without evidence to prove it!

Have you lost the ability to think critically?

Ask MaxInDHouse to show you the evidence that proves that Courz and Oteneaaron are the same person.

MaxInDHouse:
He is oteneaaron disguising with this moniker to hide behind the Churchgoers so he can't pick any religion because they're disgusting to him!

Just like the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses who spread LIES, here is MaxInDHouse LYING that I am the same person as Courz.

Ask him to provide evidence to backup this LIE.

Why so many LIES from members of the only "true" religion?

Makes you wonder right?

achorladey:
Madness and insanities peddling brains. See manipulations and lies. Your Jehovah is the one helping Moses and Jesus to manipulate the Bible

Bookmarked. Moses and Jesus were manipulating the Bible.

Cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron

Hahahahaha

That says a lot about the type of "God" Jehovah's Witnesses worship.

Nice work Courz, this is a great thread.

Some years ago when I first woke up from the LIES of Watchtower as a PIMO, I made the decision to stop using the New World Translation.

There were many times I would be in the Kingdom hall, but my own translation of the Bible would different from what was used from the platform.

Manipulation of scriptures to fit into the official dogma is a mark of religious cults.

Even the Mormon church have their own version of scripture that fits into their dogma or doctrines.

The Popular Doctrine of the 1000-year or Millenium rule during the 2nd coming of Christ is based on Revelation 20 vs 1 - 6.

Different sects of Christianity have their unique interpretation of the above scripture.

Back in the days when I was still a Jehovah's Witness, we were taught that ours was the only true religion - which meant that the teachings of any other religion were false.

Back then we grouped all other religions under this title - Babylon the Great - The World Empire of False Religion

As the only true religion, this meant that our teachings were UNIQUE and could not be found in any other religion.

Imagine my shock when I found out that the doctrine of the 1000-year rule of Christ as taught by Mormons, was the same doctrine taught by Jehovah's Witness!

You don't believe me?

Here is proof:

Here is what the Mormons Teach:

Who will be on the earth during the Millennium, and what will they be doing?

The Millennium is the 1,000-year period of peace and righteousness following the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, who will reign over the earth during that time (see Articles of Faith 1:10).

Those remaining on the earth during the Millennium will be the good people of the earth—those who were righteous and just, regardless of their religion. This includes those who will be on the earth at the time of the Second Coming as well as those who will be resurrected at that time and other times throughout the Millennium. The wicked will not remain on the earth and will not be resurrected until after the Millennium.

So, what will people do during these 1,000 years? We know that a main focus will be to continue the work of salvation—helping people come unto Christ. Church members will share the gospel with those remaining who have not received it in its fullness. Family history and temple work will be especially important and will link the entire family of man all the way back to Adam and Eve.

A thousand years is a long time, so it’s safe to assume that people will likely do a wide variety of things that are “virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy” (Articles of Faith 1:13) but that have not necessarily been mentioned in any of the revelations. For more on the Millennium, see True to the Faith: A Gospel Reference (2004), 103–4.

See - https://www(dot)churchofjesuschrist(dot)org/study/new-era/2014/06/to-the-point/who-will-be-on-the-earth-during-the-millennium-and-what-will-they-be-doing?lang=eng

Here is what Jehovah's Witnesses Teach:

20. What an exciting time the Thousand Year Reign will be! It will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth. But it will also be a time when the conduct of both the righteous and the unrighteous will be evaluated. (Isa. 26:9; Acts 17:31) How will this educational program be carried out? Our next article will help us to understand and appreciate this wonderful provision.

2 All these resurrected ones will need to be instructed. (Isa. 26:9; 61:11) So the greatest educational program in all human history will need to be implemented. (Read Isaiah 11:9, 10.) Why? For one thing, the unrighteous who are resurrected will need to learn about Jesus Christ, the Kingdom arrangement, the ransom, and the universal issue involving Jehovah’s name and sovereignty. Even the righteous will need to be brought up-to-date with what Jehovah has progressively revealed concerning his purpose for the earth. Some of these faithful ones died long before Jehovah’s word was compiled into the Bible canon. Both the unrighteous and the righteous will have a lot to learn.

See - September 2022 Watchtower Study Edition - Article 39 p. 20 & Article 40 p. 2

Can you observe their similar doctrines?

Here are my questions to Jehovah's Witnesses -

1. Why are you teaching the same doctrine as the Mormon Church?

2. Since there is nothing unique about your doctrine, what makes you the only true religion?

CC: Archoladey, Emusan, Courz, Temple333

Janosky:
Oteneaaron,You are still WAILING?

Koman Post your 2024 close up pix (without eye glass or face cap) make all man see how you done baff up, dey chop up since post -2019.
OR, geroutta here jare.

I am not wailing bro, I am simply exposing your LIES for the whole world to see.

So you have finally admitted that are a SHAMELESS LIAR.

That is good progress.

Achorladey, you were right!

He has dug an even deeper hole for himself.

😁😁

Emusan:
He knows you have caught him red handed

See how he is trying to change the narration.

But don't be surprised that he will never answer you or provide any evidence to back his claim of you being an asylum seeker, Hunded(whatever this means to the brain dead Jws) fugitive and fraud man e.t.c

My brother see me see wahala oo

It just shows that the true nature of Jehovah's Witnesses is telling SHAMELESS LIES.

They are professional liars, exactly like their GODs - the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Janosky:
Mumu Oteneaaron &LYING miscreant, you LIED on this platform.

I have NEVER called anyone that name ANYWHERE on this platform.
YOU HAVE NO PROOF !!

I knew it would come to this.

You're not just a LIAR, but you're also a manipulator, just like the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

True, you never explicity mentioned that I am David Hudeyin, but you most definitely implied it.

Here is proof -

#1

Janosky:
Hunded fugitive & fraud man expelled from UK university & deceiving himself on nairaland.

You no holy pass sewage dump.

Janosky, where is your proof that I am a "Hunded Fugitive & Fraud Man Expelled from UK university" ?

#2

Janosky:
You are well known on social media.

Hunded fugitive seeking asylum, make I just continue to respect your JW parents.

Janosky, where is your evidence that I am "well known on social media"?

Where is your evidence that I am a "Hunded fugitive seeking asylum"?

#3

Janosky:
Did that hunded asylum seeker atheist tell you he is serving JEHOVAH God?

Janosky, where is your evidence that I am a "Hunded asylum seeker atheist"?

#4

Janosky:

"Pastor Niyi Adebayo has admitted that some of his preachings have been wrong and Pastor Mike Bamiloye also agreed that he has been wrong too.

Niyi Adebayo shared a post detailing some of his teachings that he no longer agrees with."

Courz IBERIBEIST , Achorladey MUMU , Oteneaaron hunded fugitive running from his shadow.
WAILER forever in sifia pains.

Janosky, where is your evidence that I am" a hunded fugitive running from his shadow"?

#5

Janosky:
Yes.
Oteneaaron Courz can have direct access to the deity of Hermes trismegistus, his Master/Teacher.

Because that Jesus Oteneaaron Courz knows is a myth inside his own head .

Dav Hunded .

Janosky, here you called me "Dav Hunded" where is your evidence to prove that I am "Dav Hunded"?

CC: Emusan, Achorladey, Courz

achorladey:
Na to peddle more lies and manipulations that Janosky aka JaNosense will do about that. The same person that will peddle wailings about their religious organization being maligned just to hide his lying and manipulated face cannot substantiate his words which are lies

Speaking lies is his natural way of speaking - just like their Governing Body.

Janosky:
WAILING LYING miscreant oteneaaron.
.
Repost your picture you REMOVED from your DP or continue deceiving yourself.

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE??

My profile picture was uploaded 5 years ago!

You LIED that I am David Hundeyin.

PROVE IT!

But you can't prove it, can you?

That is why you are nothing but a SHAMELESS LIAR - just like the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Janosky:
Dem WAILING go tire Dem last last.

Mr Janosky,

Till now, you still haven't apologized for LYING against me.

I would like to know why

You LIED that I am the same person as David Hundeyin.

Where is your evidence?

You're nothing but a shameless LIAR right?

Just like how your Governing Body consistently spreads LIES and propaganda.

I guess the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

CC:Archoladey, Emusan, Courz

**Please note, I created this thread earlier, but mistakenly submitted it before adding a title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59b33o-KgdE?si=ojbkBuJLloNvcELC

In the above video, the presenter trys to prove that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are in a PANIC MODE.

Why would the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses be in panic mode?

We'll, I belive it's because of their flip flop doctrines which are ALWAYS changing.

They are losing the trust of many of their members - who are leaving the religion in droves.

Gary Breaux expressed this "panic mode" in a recent JW broadcasting video (their own tele-evangelism system) claiming that -

1. The Governing Body never lie or deceive their members - this is a LIE

2. We should completely trust the Governing Body when the Bible at Psalms 146:3 says
"Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save." - another LIE

Watch the video and let me know what you think.