Courz:
Hmm.

Wow.

Since 1950?

achorladey:


Let me expose your lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains despite being an elder and one of Jehovah's Witnesses regarding how you blackmail people emotionally just like your GODS of men housed in USA packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains. MaxInDHouse stated.....




Your GODS of men housed in said these about parents of those who leave that your religious organization......




In essence, parents should not feel pity for their children who chose to leave that your religious organization yet MaxInDHouse wants to emotionally blackmail me using my parents, the same people that you don't even know whether they are Jehovah's Witnesses or not for that matter.

You think I am like those members you are made elders over in your congregation. That to read bible they will come to your house to do rehearsal. Do you think I look person that go to meet elders to do rehearsals before I give talks.


cc: FxMasterz this is part of their mode of operation. You will think they really pity those whose children abandoned that religious organization

Na eye service. If those parents all their children decides to leave that religious organization and the parents lacks the means of survival, they will suffer. Their eyes go see shege banza. In fact you will not know when these Jehovah’s witnesses start using style style to tell these same parents that......

But if any widow has children or grandchildren, let these learn first to practice godly devotion in their own household and to repay their parents and grandparents what is due them.

These people Chai🤣😂🤣😂


Courz and Oteneaaron will understand how this parole be.

Of course I completely understand the parole.

When I got married, majority of JWs were shocked that my mum and dad boldly stood by me throughout, even though I say I no do again and I no wan marry JW.

And this is only because my parents have UNCONDITIONAL LOVE for me - my parents clearly said to the Elders - "no religion will EVER make us shun our own children."

Everyday, I thank God for my parents.

But for many others who decide to leave this cult, it is often a very different story - parents are quick to shun their children and would rather love the GB & organization more than their own children.

This is because as a JW, you practice a form of CONDITIONAL LOVE - the day you decide to leave the cult, is the day you become dead in their eyes.

Thank you for the this truth bomb @Achorladey

MaxInDHouse:


Definitely you don't know the meaning of that word "APOSTATES" you just wish all members of God's organization join you in your rebellion.

Jesus asked his disciples who the people say he is and lots of contradicting ideas arises and when he asked his own disciples saying:

“You, though, who do you say I am?” Matthew 16:15

Peter responded saying:

“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Matthew 16:16

Now note that only Peter responded positively others are still skeptical about who Jesus is it was six days later that they opened up on their skepticism when Jesus took James, John and Peter to the mountain where they heard God's voice confirming Jesus as the Christ {Matthew 17:1-5} then they spoke up asking:

“Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” Matthew 17:10

What do you learn from that?

Well it simply means they kept following Jesus even though they're not fully convinced of his personality in God's arrangement but they're not ready to let go unless they're able to find a better performing prophet who will fit in to all the prophecies about the Christ. John 6:66-68
That faithful day it was like a veil was removed from their eyes so they asked Jesus why the scriptures say Elijah will come first before him!

So an apostate isn't one who is making his or her own personal research regarding God's will {Act 17:11} but one who couldn't work with God's organized people whole soul even though he or she can't find a better performing group yet condemning the one and only organization that is performing up to expectations!

I don't need all these long stories!

If you're not an APOSTATE, why can't you share the results of your "personal research" with your fellow JW members?

If you're not an APOSTATE, why are you teaching what has not been "approved" by the Governing Body?

MaxInDHouse:


I will say it anywhere except to teach among Jehovah's Witnesses because the GB hasn't approved it that's my own personal research.

So basically, you're an APOSTATE.

Because if you have done your personal research and reached a conclusion that is completely different from what your GODS have "approved", then you're an APOSTATE.

For the fact that you can't even discuss your personal research among your fellow JWs is more evidence that you're an APOSTATE.

Wonders shall never end.

😁😁

MaxInDHouse:


This is why Talktalk2022 hate you with passion because you're a liar and pretender!

I told you to go and show your useless love to those you're celebrating on Nairaland but NO you wouldn't instead you keep mentioning my name as if i owe you.

Courz said Jehovah is a demon.

Oteneaaron said Jesus never existed.

Templee333 said the Bible is false.

Others are claiming JW PIMOS meaning they are worshiping with JWs even though they believe the organization is worshiping Satan all of them you refused to help in getting another religion so they can stop worshiping Satan but me who strongly believe in my God and my brothers you keep calling out all the time as if i'm owning you money.

As long as you don't stop mentioning me i will also continue to show everyone on this forum that you're a useless, hopeless, worthless, faithless liar and pretender.

STOP MENTIONING ME!

I don't think that's too hard for any right thinking person to grasp nah!

HE WILL NOT STOP MENTIONING YOU!

No be your papa get Nairaland.

How dare you mention others with reckless abandon and still demand that others not mention you?

Who do you think you are?

MaxInDHouse:


LIAR!

AntiChrist!

Did Jesus tell you to continue pestering others when they tell you they're not interested in what you're saying?

Why not preach your god to your friends like achorladey, oteneaaron, Courz, Templee333, Sand2023 and other JW PIMOS?

They're no longer interested in the worship going on in our Kingdom Halls yet they remain there but you refused to preach your God to them so that they can leave the religion they're calling CULT.

So ọmọ you're a BLACKMAILER and SLANDERER not a believer in Christ because that is not what he commanded his disciples!

Look at this LYING old man.

Who are you calling a PIMO?

Where is your evidence that I am still attending JW meetings?

Moreso, you're here complaining about FxMasterz mentioning you, but for the past 2 weeks you have been mentioning me on countless threads.

Why are you such a hypocrite?

You don't want others to mention you but you feel like you have the right to mention others right?

Pathetic.

Vinnie2000:

From the 90's to 2000's and 2010's, Jehovah's witnesses used to be Aggressive, Persuasive Gospel Preachers.

*When they knock on your door, they NEVER Stop till you open.
*When they preach, they argue and make sure they win you.
*Even on Christmas day, they will waylay you and start telling how the celebration is Roman Pagan holiday.
*In my house then, I had up to 60,70 AWAKE and WATCHTOWER magazines.

But, from 2020 till now, you HARDLY see Jehovah's witnesses preaching.

And BTW, One of my committed young JW friend is now a YAHOO Boy with JLK.

While another JW Girl I used to crush on those days based on her Innocent looks
is now posting Short gown Picx on WhatsApp and Instagram.


WHAT'S HAPPENING to Jehovah's witnesses in Nigeria?
Chatinent, Come and educate us. Nplfmod. Thanks.

There are many reasons why this is happening - not just in Nigeria but all over the world.

Because of social distancing and lock downs of COVID 19, Jehovah's Witnesses were ordered by their GODS to stop going out to preach in 2019/2020

They even stopped going to their kingdom hall for 2 years - they did all of this virtually through Zoom.

To put it simply, this made the JWs lazy - imagine finally getting to spend your weekends at home resting after many years of going out to "preach" every weekend.

Moreso, in October 2023, one of their GODS (guardians of doctrines) - Samuel Herd, gave another order - Jehovah's Witnesses are no longer needed to record their monthly preaching hours.

For 103 years, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been required to fill out a monthly report that included the number of hours they spent in the “preaching” or “witnessing” activity.

Members of the religion were also required to report the number of “placements” of Watchtower literature, including magazines, books, booklets, and other printed material. In recent years, the Organization’s headquarters also required the notation of the number of “views” of videos shown to the public during conversations with non-Witnesses.

Before the recording of hours was abolished, as a Jehovah's Witness, if you don't record at least 10 hours every month, you would be considered as "spiritually weak" and because of this, you won't get access to "responsibilities" especially if you're male.

Now that recording hours is more required, it has made JWs even more lazy.

What's the use of going out to preach if you don't have record your hours and show that you're "spiritually strong" ?

This is exactly why they are now dull in their evangelism.

I hope this helps to put things in perspective.

If you can post the actual news instead of that screenshots alone, that'd go a long way.

It's hard to read the tiny prints.

Just my opinion tho.

achorladey:



Their hypocrisy of coming here and then climb their platforms at the kingdom hall to go against the very same thing they do.

Exactly the point.

It is that Hypocrisy that makes them "apostates in disguise".

That is why their greatest nightmare is their online identity exposed.

MaxInDHouse:




Is there anywhere on this planet where you won't find people who believe their group is the only one teaching the truth?

Well it's such people Jesus sent us to fish out {Mark 1:17} not those who are indifferent to sacred service like you, that's why you can't stay in the truth!

And a highway will be there, Yes, a way called the Way of Holiness. The unclean one will not travel on it. It is reserved for the one walking on the way; No one foolish will stray onto it. Isaiah 35:8

When we find such ones they are grounded in the truth because that's what they've always long for! Matthew 5:6

SHAMELESS LIAR.

I knew you couldn't bring up any evidence.

Shame on you.

When you speak a LIE, be bold enough to prove it and stop being a coward.

MaxInDHouse:

So when i say there are Jehovah's Witnesses in all the earth i'm not referring to Christians who are doing the work of gathering them together rather i'm referring to faithful people who believe in one God and the same line of thought regarding pure worship.

Do you get it now?

This is complete BS - excuse my french.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not even Christians in the first place so what are you yapping about?

Just admit that you LIED and stop beating around the bush.

This is exactly what you said -

MaxInDHouse:
so that there's no place under the heavens where people living there won't say they know the one and only GROUP whose teachings stands out as unique!

SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE WHAT YOU SAID.

I need raw data to prove this LIE.

Stop beating around the bush.

MaxInDHouse:


And who told you Jehovah's Witnesses aren't there?
)

No be by cho cho - show workings!

Show me the data evidence that shows that there are Jehovah's Witnesses in Somalia, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia!

If you can prove it, then you're nothing but a SHAMELESS LIAR!

FxMasterz:


Deep down in my heart, I wish you could become born again and learn to respect the Word of God and hold it in higher esteem than the words of men - your GB. I wish you could be honest enough with yourself to open your eyes and see the many contradictions I have shown you about your doctrines from the scriptures. Those contradictions and falsehoods which you could not refute. I'm baffled that you ignored all, decided to manipulate instead, and then continue in self-deceit. The latest of them is that the Scriptures say "We shall not all sleep." But you said "We shall all sleep", just because your GB said so. It is really pathetic. I wish you could become my brother in trusting the Word of God and holding it in reverential fear above the words of men.

Hahahahaha

Don't feel sorry for him bro, you should be happy!

Here is why you should be happy -

The JWs on this forum like MaxInDHouse, Aemmyjah and Janosky are hiding under the cloak of anonymity to break a clear commandment from their Governing Body regarding "apostates" which states -

Watchtower 2004 Feb 15 p.28
"It would be a mistake to think that you need to listen to apostates or to read their writings to refute their arguments. Their twisted, poisonous reasoning can cause spiritual harm and can contaminate your faith like rapidly spreading gangrene. (2 Timothy 2:16, 17) Rather, imitate God's response to apostates. Job said of Jehovah: "Before him no apostate will come in." - Job 13:16."

These guys are clearly going against the instruction of their Governing Body and if they ever get exposed in the real world, they will be punished for this because the word of the Governing Body is LAW.

That is why you should be happy, rebelling against the clear commandments of the Governing Body is one of the first steps to becoming an "apostate".

They are on the right path and should be encouraged for disobeying the Governing Body - that shows that they are actually rebels and as time goes on, they will get bolder to do some research to defend their false teachings and in the course of that research, they continue to defy the Governing Body and eventually become full blown apostates.

They are not supposed to be here in the first place.

So don't feel sorry for them, instead applaud them for being hold enough to break the rules of the Governing Body - it's the first step on a long journey.

😂😂😂

CC: Achorladey, Emusan, Courz.

Aemmyjah:

Maxindhouse is my brother [b]as long as he remains faithful to Jehova[/b]h. This thread is stupid cos of people like you

What a perfect statement to showcase the conditional love Jehovah's Witnesses practice!

In JW language,

"remains faithful to Jehovah" = remains faithful to the Organization

Jehovah = The Organization

Always keep this fact in mind when dealing with a JW.

CC: Johnw47, FxMasterz.

MaxInDHouse:
Since 1914 a GROUP has been growing like a building under construction but today it has covered the whole earth [b]so that there's no place under the heavens where people living there won't say they know the one and only GROUP [/b]whose teachings stands out as unique! Matthew 5:14-16

More LIES as usual.

What about Afghanistan, Somalia, Saudi Arabia and North Korea?

😂😂

FxMasterz:


Does that make you happy? I'm glad you're happy.

Don't allow him gaslight you bro.

No one has a monopoly on Nairaland.

We must continue to expose evil no matter how much evildoers want such exposure to be hidden - evil thrives in darkness and ignorance.

If you see something that is wrong and you keep quiet, you are no different from the perpetrators themselves.

I repeat - do not allow anyone gaslight you.

EnemyofGod3:


You just speak so many grammar without answering my question, whether God is infinite or finite that's not the bone of contention.the question is where was God when he created heaven and earth ? The spirit of God must be somewhere before he created the heaven and earth.

The people who wrote the bible didn't know that the time go come when some critical question like this go come out.

You argument to begin with, is flawed because your sticking to the Biblical concept of "God".

I don't see "God" from that myopic point of view.

If you had read my "grammar" carefully, you would understand my point of view.

The heavens, earth, planets and the entire cosmos are nothing but an IDEA in the infinite mind of God.

What happens when you create an Idea let's say an artwork?

Are you not part and parcel of your idea?

It's a philosophical concept called involution - look it up.

Botragelad:

Oh, you think the Hermetic Principle of Correspondence is a compelling argument! But let's be real, your reasoning relies on a flawed analogy and a plethora of assumptions. Building a house is a human endeavor, governed by physical laws and cognitive processes! Ideas are just neural constructs, not magical entities bestowed upon you by a higher power.

I agree that my analogy might flawed and filled with assumptions - I am not all knowing and neither are you.

If ideas are "just neural constructs" from the brain, kindly answer me this - how are these "neural constructs" created?

And, shockingly, human effort and material resources are responsible for turning ideas into reality, not divine intervention.

Thank you for admitting that the first stage of every form of creation is AN IDEA.

Even you as a human, were first an idea in the minds of your parents before they made love and you were conceived.

How dare you attempt to scale up this analogy to the vast expanse of the cosmos! The universe's complexity can be explained by natural processes from evolution, gravity, and quantum mechanics, without even requiring a divine creator.

How dare I?

How dare you ignore the fact that every visible reality was once first nothing but an IDEA?

Yes, the cosmos is complex and awe inspiring and it is this awe inspiring complexity that leads us like children to study the cosmos and wonder where it came from.

Even the big bang theory leads us back to a singularity or point in time when the cosmos became "visible" before then, I dare say it was nothing but an IDEA.

You speak about quantum mechanics - do you disagree that at the basic form of matter beyond protons and electrons what we have is nothing but pure energy vibrations?

What you see as solid in reality is nothing not energy at different rates of vibration and I dare say so are our thoughts or ideas.

Please, spare me the philosophical jargon about the principle of correspondence. It's a tool, not empirical evidence for god's existence.

You are spared.

I never said the principle was an empirical evidence, I only applied it's reasoning from lower to higher concepts.

If humans can first create things by first having an IDEA, then there must be a PRIMAL IDEA or as the Greeks called it, the LOGOS.

And as for John 1:1, it's just a reinterpretation of ancient Greek philosophy, not scientific proof.

I don't dispute this fact.

The natural world, including human creativity, can be explained by natural laws and processes. Say something else.

Thank you once again for admitting that there are NATURAL LAWS that govern our reality.

If I may ask, where do these natural laws come from?

EnemyofGod3:
In the book of Genesis God created heaven and earth,before he created all other things.

We as human before you build your own house,is either you live in a rented apartment or you live in your father's house.but in this case God just from nowhere and created heaven and earth.

Christian's in the house can you tell us where was God when he created heaven and earth ?

By following the Hermetic Principle of Correspondence - To understand the Infinite, you must first understand the Finite.

As a human being, how do you create things?

Let's say you want to build a 2 bedroom apartment, what are the steps to take?

1. At first the house is nothing but an IDEA in your mind - it is not visible - in religious terminologies, you could say the house is only existing in the spiritual realm.

2. You give a brief to an architect who then makes a detailed drawing of the 2 bedroom apartment - at this stage the house/your idea is still not visible - it only exists on paper.

3. After the drawing is approved, you move to site and after the surveyor maps out the area, you buy cement, building blocks, sand, gravel and you pay for the mansory, etc.

4. When all of these is completed, that IDEA which was at first incoporeal, invisible and spiritual has now become a reality, visible and physical.

If that is how finite beings like us create, how much more our father who is infinite?

The entire cosmos with its billions of planets, black holes, galaxies and suns is nothing but an IDEA in the infinite mind of God which has manifested as a reality in our 3 dimensional plane of existence.

First the idea, then the manifestation.

The Bible explains this at John 1 VS 1

"In the beginning was the LOGOS, and the LOGOS was with God and the LOGOS was God."

In English, we misinterpret the LOGOS and simply call it the WORD.

In ancient Greek, the LOGOS meant the PRIMAL IDEA or the IDEA OF IDEAS.

I know it's quite philosophical but I hope this answers your question.

FxMasterz:


This is a lie! Did John ever preach that? That's the question. You're not the one to tell us the purpose of His baptism. Don't tell us what John did not say. John himself already told us why he was baptizing. Why add to his words?

John 1:30-32

"30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God"

Why are you lying!

John said "I came baptizing people to reveal Him to Israel as He who baptizes with the Holy Ghost, and I bear Him record that this is the Son of God." (Paraphrased).

"Where on earth did John say I came to reveal Him to you so that you can recognize Him and be obedient to His Kingdom"?

Must you lie to make your points? Even lying against John the Baptist so that he can become equatable with your lying GBs?

He has to LIE because that is his natural way of speaking.

Moreso, when you get baptized as a Jehovah's Witness, you are basically swearing an oath to the organization.

Here are the questions you are asked during a JW baptism (you have to answer YES) -

(1) “Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?”

(2) “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?”

Whereas this is in complete contrast to the simple yet powerful process of baptism found at Mathew 28 VS 19 -

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

achorladey:


I told you several times. He cannot make a point without lying and claiming lies on behalf of others.

Wumiwumi100 showed evidence he is an elder and still active. He cannot even show us evidence that indeed he is an elder and yet lie and claim nonsense on behalf of others to make a point.

The same MaxInDHouse said I was cursed by Brocab years ago while still a member and now that I am no longer a member of that religious organization yet insisting we are still members.


They didn't didn't even believe the last day began in 1914 that they are now saying now. They believe that 1914 God is coming to pack everything up and take over everything. When what they predicted and prophesied didn't happen they start another round of mental gymnastics about setting dates on Christ return

Very true.

Jehovah's Witnesses are PATHOLOGICAL LIARS.

The doctrine of 1914 was initially an "end of the world" prophecy by Charles Taze Russell.

It was after the prophecy failed that they made a quick switch to begin calling it "the start of the last days".

Here are some evidences from their own publications to prove this -

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226

"In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914." Studies in the Scriptures - The Time is at Hand (1889) 1911 ed. p.99

"… the battle of the great day of God Almighty … The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October, 1914. [/b]It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874. ... [b]The Scriptures show also that the battle of the great day will begin with the church of God, and that the overthrow of the great nominal church systems will precede the overthrow of the present civil powers; for the Lord is about to shake, not only the earth (the civil organisation for society), but heaven (the ecclesiastical powers) also (Heb. 12:26), to the end that great "Babylon," falsely called Christendom -Christ's kingdom- may be completely destroyed. " Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 15 pp.21-23

It is no surprise that MaxInDHouse and his cohorts are known for shamelessly spreading LIES - it is a trait they all share from the Governing Body down to the rank and file JW.

Back then when I was a member of this religion and decided to do my research into the history of the religion, was when I learnt about many of their FAILED PROPHECIES.

Deuteronomy 18 VS 21 & 22 was what gave me the boldness to stand strong and reject this religion, their Governing Body and their endless LIES -

"And if you say in your heart, `How may we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'

When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you need not be afraid of him." - RSV

There is no need to be afraid of the Governing Body nor to be afraid of been shunned for rejecting their false prophecies and endless LIES.

CC: Emusan, Courz, FxMasterz, Wumiwumi100, JohnW47

For more context on their failed prophecies of 1914, see this article - https://jwfacts(dot) com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

*remove the (dot)

MaxInDHouse:
Since the year 1914 faithful and obedient humans throughout the earth has been going to associate with Christ anointed brothers {Matthew 25:40} this anointed brothers of Christ are referred to as the BODY according to the scriptures they are DEAD to sin (Romans 6:11} but to Christ they are alive so their faithful brothers who are of the other sheep {John 10:16} gather round them like EAGLES! Luke 17:37


Let anyone who has ears listen! Matthew 13:43

Repeating a LIE over and over again will never make it true.

FxMasterz:


I have read many comments like this about him but is there any evidence?

This thread in itself is an evidence of one the many LIES of MaxInDHouse.

Jerusalem was NOT destroyed in 607 BCE - this is a fact.

Therefore, his claims of Jesus coming back in 1914 is nothing but a SHAMELESS LIE.

Without 607 BCE, there can be no "prophecy" of 1914.

QED.

achorladey:



Looool! A trait equally present in the mode of operation of the religious organization he belongs. That help he needs will begin when he choose disassociate from that religious organization.

I concur.

FxMasterz:


I have read many comments like this about him but is there any evidence?

Lol

Are you trying to be sarcastic or what?

😂😂

achorladey:



Any means to seek relevance and that notice me attitude is the agenda

The unsettling need for him to seek relevance and be noticed as being "wise" or "intelligent" is a symptom of an inferiority complex or chronic self esteem.

Here is what psychology says -

The following are also signs of an inferiority complex, though they are often mistaken for someone who seems overly confident:

1. Excessive competitiveness.

2. Perfectionism.

3. Attention-seeking.

4. Very sensitive to criticism.

5. Constantly finding fault in others.

6. Finding it difficult to admit mistakes.

Maxindhouse actually needs help.

achorladey:




The funny aspect of the whole matter is always claiming claiming claiming to change his lies to truth.

He wants FxMasterz to show evidence that he is not a liar. The same person that lied that Peter was carrying out poverty alleviation programme

The matter weak me oo

😂😂

Imagine a proven LIAR trying to accuse another person of lying.

It is either he has selective amnesia or he doesn't care that his reciepts abound on Nairaland.

MaxInDHouse:


You can't eat your cake and have it.

If you're claiming to be a child of God you shouldn't be accusing people wrongly even to the point of mentioning a substantial amount claiming he defrauded you that's what makes you a kid and premature!

See who is talking.

😂😂😂

You have been accusing me wrongly for more than a year now that Courz and I are the same person - without evidence.

You have accused Achorladey wrongly of being the same person as Emusan - without evidence.

Following your logic, you're nothing but a premature child.

This is the A - Z of the entire Jehovah's Witness dogma.

😂😂😂😂

Nice work OP.

Wow Congratulations!

But have you dated or slept with any Man before?

Hahahahahaha

The Catholic Church are masters at demonizing critics of the Pope.

Now we can see where Jehovah's Witnesses borrowed their shunning of "apostates" from.

Lol.

The cardinal is now being demonized just because he dared to accuse the Pope of wrongdoing.

No matter the religion, once you dare go against the leadership, you're automatically demonized.

MaxInDHouse:


Your friend has been silenced! Isaiah 54:17

How did you silence him?

You have started boasting again.

An empty barrel makes the loudest noise.

Do you think everyone eats and sleeps on Nairaland like you do?

Knowing many like him who aren't with God's organization with all their hearts {Mark 12:29-30} in the family he thought he has seen it all.

Now he's secretly learning some things he never heard among God's people because he was only growing physically but spiritually he is a dwarf who remains the same way he is just counting years among God's people.

So if he is only a "dwarf spiritually", how on earth did he become an Elder?

I thought the holy spirit selects people to become Elders - do you know more than the "holy spirit"?

Or are you trying to say that the "holy spirit" made a mistake?

Let him respond to the truth and prove that it's all about attending meetings that makes people part of JEHOVAH'S sheep.

He never made any comment like this.

Stop making up things in your head.

Jesus sent his disciples to go in search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} and how do we recognize this ones?

They may be found among hooligans, violent people, alcoholics, witches, wizards, prostitutes, armed robbers, fraudsters, hired killers and ritualists.

YES they can be found anywhere but what is the message that strikes them in their hearts?

GOD'S ORGANIZATION!

I wonder why you only quoted Mathew 10:6.

Why didn't you quote verse 8 that said: "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay." - is your religious organization doing any of this today?

But I digress.

To clarify for the public, when Max says "God's Organization" he is actually speaking about the Man-made Business Cooperation called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania.

"God's Organization" = Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

Now can you show me the specific verse in the bible where Jesus asked his disciples to search for people to join an "organization" aka Watchtower?

Once they discover that God is real through the activities of His imperfect worshipers such ones begin to feel sober for all their past deeds and once they learn that God knows they did all those things due to frustration and He is willing to accept them they will become the meekest ever to OBEY God's representatives.

Where did God ask you to OBEY human representatives?

Acts 5:29 - "But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men."

Psalm 146:3 - "Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save"

Should we OBEY God?

OR

Should we OBEY the Governing Body of the Watchtower Organization who cannot save?

So when you look at their outward appearance they're useless to God but Jehovah reads hearts He knows they will serve as precious gems in His organization.

So if God read hearts, who are you call wumiwumi100 a "spiritual dwarf"?

Are you God who can read hearts?

But as many as those born and raised in God's organization who doesn't feel the emptiness that there's no other place to go if they should leave God's organization {John 6:68-69} of course such ones are useless to our God! Hebrews 10:38

John 6:68-69 - Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

Are you now saying that the Watchtower Organization is equal to Jesus Christ?

The words of Peter in the verse above were crystal clear - he was not speaking about an "organization" aka Watchtower.