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LTGEN:
The planes that are going to be sold to Nigeria will be built in America by Americans not in Brazil.
The pilots will be trained in America like quite a number of Nigerian pilots.
Brazil is in no way shape of form part of this deal.
Lastly the U.S as is their history unless they are
giving the country E.D.A do not manufacture Weapons for their allies in a hurry.

allies? This is interesting

This is because a lot of people don't have sense. Look at our Senate for example, how many of them have sense? Look at Aso Rock how many people there have sense? Look at Nnamdi Kano do you think he have sense. Look at the Yoruba's and Igbos on here fighting everytime and insulting themselves do you think they have sense? Look at Tinubu he has sense, look at Azikiwe he has sense but look at all those people that lost their live while fighting the civil war and we can't remember fheir name today do you think they had sense? That's it. Most people are stupid. I ran a research on the number of people I meet daily and I realise that on average I meet atleast 50 stupid people everyday and that's just in Akure. What of if I traveled to Enugu, Kano or Bayelsa. I would realise that I am surrounded by stupidity. Please don't be stupid. Be different, like this comment and tell yourself it's not all about Ethnicism stupidity has no ethnic group.
If you steal, you steal because you are stupid not because you are a igbo or Yoruba man, if you kill you kill because you want to kill not because of your ethnicity.

This two fools fought because they are stupid and if they died another stupid person will check their name for their tribe cus he is also stupid. And then one other stupid person will try to defend his tribe cus he is stupid.

Now that we all know how stupid people behave. I want to see the stupid person that would quote nonsense.

Nigerdeltaboi:
the shape seems similar to jf-17 thunder

yes it does Very soon you go start to wear JF17 crested boxers. Everything is now a sign.

SSBN:
Odunayo you gotta be honest Kozmicity is correct. Our leaders have failed us.We should be livid with rage, not making excuses for the criminals. And we should drop this political correct culture here where one is condemned for being negative. We have more satellites in Space than all of Africa combined. We gave a GDP of $1 trillion if measured in PPP. We have carried out more military operations in a 25 year span than any other country in Africa. We've been at war without rest for 15 years, even in the midst of war we've deployed forces to Liberia and Sudan. We deployed combat helicopters and 800 men to Mali. Just recently in January we spent $350 million on an ungrateful and entitled ECOWAS to solve the Gambian crises. We deployed our newest warship to Gambia and deployed air assets and reconnaissance planes to Senegal.

YET YET YET.

Between 2005 and now we spent $1,2 billion on combat planes alone yet we still keep twelve 35year old Alpha jet trainers as the backbone of the Nigerian Air Force. We spent a quarter of a billion dollars buying MiG-21 junk, today there are just six in operation, after losing expensive pilots to crashes. Tiny countries are humiliating us and actively working against our interest because they know we are WEAK at the moment. If this doesn't drive you mad then I have nothing to tell you.

thank you Joor you make sense always.

lionel4power:
I don't get it why Nigerians are so edgy.. everything nah fight.

anyway to speak the candid truth Mr Beegs messed up a big opportunity. he had the time, the audience and the enough news to saturate his blog.

he should have modernized it. by now he'll probably be competing with defenceweb.co.za for ranking.

not to talk of the wealth.

but I don't blame him, blogging Is hard if you don't know. plus he was probably frustrated waiting for NAF Su-27 for 7 years which didn't Materialize.
I still see Jimmy, peccavi and yagazie in defenceweb...

defenceweb is boring for my taste...

YeA he had some very brilliant minds there he could have used to build a big defence blog. But dude cannot see past his balls.

Peccavi's Sitreps on the French operation in Mali where just too professional. That dude have a brain the size of a Fvcking water melon.

lionel4power:
this is intense... why so personal?

it's ok men. I should never have mentioned Beegs in the first place. The dude is dead to me.

scully95:
This is the kind of personality every African Nation needs as a leader. A leader that distance himself from those he loved the most to sacrifice himself for his motherland. Putin is my Hero so as other falling soldiers in Nigeria, Russia, Syria and elsewhere fighting for the same course.

We were falling into the Abyss.
https://ooduarere.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/putin-620x330.jpg
They cut out of Russia her historical, nation forming territories. They divided and separated her people, and they were ready to chop her heartland into pieces.

Everything was set. They had premade ethnic territories with their own flags and anthems and governments, selected by them. They printed and delivered the money of these invented countries, like the “Ural republic.”

The Khasavyurt conducted by the puppet liquidators of Russia signaled the beginning of the end of Russia herself.

Ethnic republics were waiting on the low start. Tatarstan was expected to be the first to go. The satanic West was getting ready to take over Kazan and other territories.

Without tanks, without invasions of foreign armies, without bombardments and chemical attacks. Russia was rapidly shrinking in size. According to their plans, it would be reduced to the size of the Grand Duchy of Moscow and they would have prepared a monarchy ready to rule over us.

Abject poverty, desolation, ruins, murders in the streets of the cities and towns, mafia wars, racketeering, the “politicians” and “businessmen” rendering open assistance to the Islamic terrorists and international mercenaries waging the wars on the Caucasus. Central Moscow clubs entertained sponsors of those who were killing Russian soldiers.

The government positions in the Kremlin and in the Parliament White House were occupied by those who were sending Russian soldiers to the Caucasus to be killed, simultaneously reporting information about them to the jihadists, and to the foreign special forces and other murderers who traveled to the Caucasus from every corner of the world to participate in the hunt of Russians.

The only thing that was increasing and growing on the territory of Russia were cemeteries and graveyards. In proportion, the personal bank accounts of the members of the liquidating teams were also growing.

—-

Inside the luxury clubs in the center of Moscow and abroad, they celebrated an endless carnival of victors. They celebrated our funeral.

They dehumanized us. They depicted us as skinny pigs that they publicly slaughtered. They portrayed us as naked drunks wearing dog collars, curled up on the floor next to their masters’ feet. It was us, dirty mongrels, they stripped, raped and chained. They were certain that we would be staying there on a chain, serving them, the victors, for a bare bone.

Their creative class celebrated our defeat without end. They took upon themselves to insult us and spit in our faces. When tired, they ate and drank wine on our dime, and once refreshed, they continued spiting at us, at our history, our character, our faith. From the United State they sent us chicken bones. In exchange they took free oil and gas, gold and diamonds, fur, uranium and timber, works of art, scientific discoveries and inventions, knowhow, secret technologies and scientists, slaves, human organs, prepubescent girls and boys to labor in the prostitution rings of the Europe, Turkey, the Middle east, USA, and even Africa.

The territories of the former republics were grabbed with all the people who lived there. They started devouring them slowly, waiting for the complete liquidation of Russia, to go on and to destroy them completely. They digested separate parts of out broken nation into human manure, and started growing new managers to run this brand new world company with fully stolen ready to use industries and infrastructure.

They pre-printed maps with the new world order and borders, with China getting its part of the loot in the territories of Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, and Turkey, taking over Azerbaijan and Armenia. Poland, Germany, Britain, Spain, Denmark and others would have their own Russian slaves, territories and cheap prostitutes. The citizens of Israel saw themselves becoming managers of all those territories. The USA wanted only one thing, the ownership of everything under our feet, all our mineral resources.

—

When Putin came, no one believed that he will be able to stop what was seemingly unavoidable.

——

He fought wars. No one noticed, and no one saw anything. His activity was phenomenal, like wind, invisible, but strong enough for everyone to feel the results of its input, especially when falling branches were hitting them directly over their heads. His wars were like radiation, undetectable to senses, but surely with ever increasing concentration it was killing them slowly.

—
Years passed, and everything changed, as if on its own.

—

Before the last war, just in case, he was prepared to die.

He distanced himself from people he loved the most, so they wouldn’t die with him. And, he went to war.

He dedicated his life to rescue us all.

He sacrificed himself and pried entire nations out of the Abyss’ jaws.

—

He changed the world forever.

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My man Zohariel come in here. Here is an interesting read for us. It seem like the morale of our under world army is ever so high. Like the virus called Monkey Pox itself our influence spread through the threads of Nairaland feasting on the wisdom of those that have disdained our very existence, and corrupting the mind of the weak Lily livered swines that still hold on to the most disdainful western ideologies. I look forward to the day when you and I shall ride on horse back to the very gate of Amurica and bring down fire upon her walls, tonight is not that night so I will feast on fried rice and plantain and bang my most beloved woman.

Much regards to a man who saw the "heat of the cold war" was it really cold?

That Ighalo boy is making me cry. He is just there destroying the prospect of us playing for the cold cup. I really need to say that I don't like him and he is not a Nigerian kind of player.


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nemesis4u:
flying bicycle

tucano will serve its purpose

personally i believe it is a good deal if the objective was to recover stolen Nigerian money from US

also u will get the required fighters
i dont think ur commanders will overlook the requirement
personally i believe NAF should have placed orders withe the Chinese side for the jets
around 18 or more , Chinese would have been even proposed soft loans if need be
win win for all

why dont u guys write articles for newspapers about these issues,
will not hurt to try
whats their to lose
better Nigerians control the narrative rather than others

few of u guys just mail ur articles everyday untill it gets published

nice perspective Nemesis. You are one very brilliant pervert.

nemesis4u:
just asking what if Nigeria had gone for this instead of ....in light of the complains in the other threads

provided uncle sam was agreeable

leave Nigeria my brother. The people in charge don't know what they want. They would even buy that flying bicycle that, that Chinese guy used to post on here for COIN if they know the deal would come with enough side cash. They move in some of our safest cities with well armed convoys that you would almost believe they are about to rerun the Normandy landing, while our boys are in the frontline with SoftSkinned utility trucks living in tent made from tatch. So forget it.


I keep saying that some of the most unpatriotic elements In this country can be found at the helms of power. If a good customer make the offer and they can get away with it they will even sell Nigeria and fly off somewhere to live.

We spend billions of dollars each year to provide for the maintenance, feeding and vacations of this bastards and they tell me they want to buy super Tucano to protect us.

With no future prospect of us buying a frontline fighter I think it is foolishness for anyone to think the Tucano deal will be followed by that of a multi-role platform. We will fly that Plane for years if it is bought and even use it to defend democracy in West Africa. The hell we may even talk tough to France with our Tucano. But I tell you one day we will face the reality of all this recklessness and when we do it would be the poor man who can't buy a ticket out of the country that would suffer it.

SSBN:
Bidexi, what is stopping Nigeria from acquiring basic air defence assets. Just take a look at Sudan.

corruption my brother. That guy saying we don't need air defence asset is as ridiculous as a man saying he does not have to lock his door cus he lives in a peaceful neighborhood.

So because we don't have any hostile neighbours we now assume that a world that have been fighting itself since the creation of man would remain peaceful.

Dude we are actors in a hostile and unfriendly international system and power and force is the only language that is understood in this system.

Power may not be the reality of you wanting to invade and overthrow a government or another state but it is the fact that if you want to, you can do it and do it over and over again without anybody questioning you.

Power may not be the fact that you can stand up successfully in a confrontation against the United State but it is the fact that if the United States stands up against your country and its ideal you will create widows and orphans out of some Yankee families and that is enough detterence to the United State to think twice and weigh the consequences.

We have since lost our strategic economic power cus of the global oil crisis. Now even if the United States kill or imprison 100 Nigerian Citizens abroad we cannot do anything about it. Infact we will keep begging them to buy our oil. Cuz we do not have any other way to sustain us as a nation. Then were the days when Nigeria could sanction Britain by stopping British oil from producing oil in Nigeria but it can't happen today.


People keep echoeing we don't need interceptors and 4th generation fighters and that's a very funny but dangerous assertion because the vast majority of those against the idea of purchasing a capable frontline fighter for the Airforce are those who may in future be in charge of decision making in this areas.


Somebody mentioned feel good factor, but I disagree it is not feel good factor sir. It is a thing that brings confidence, prestige, National morale, Negotiating power and detterence.


Some nations procure this things not because they would ever need them but because it gives them a ticket to the "table". Imagine that we just acquired Nuclear weapons and that same month the Nigerian Defence Chief paid a visit to Russia and part of his intinery was to visit some of the Russian Nuclear sites where Nuclear grade uraniums are being enriched. Do you think the US president would sleep easy that night? That visit would be closely monitored by US intelligence and if after that visit Nigeria offers to improve military relations with the US, my brother you will see the level of exercise that the US will want to organize with us. If we ask the US for even F18 we will get it. Why because in the international system nobody wants a well armed man to be a friend to his enemy.

That is when you will start hearing "Donald Trump to pay courtsey visit to Nigeria" or "US/Nigeria to collaborate in development of a Joint attack plane"

Buying this things sometimes is not because of the reality of a threat but it is to ensure that the threat never comes up. Personally I am quite surprised that a great nation like Nigeria have survived for this long without such things, how come? Despite our strong stance in international Organizations?


Cameroon would treat Anglophone Cameroonians well if we had certain capabilities, Yahaya wouldn't have waited for us to come and meet him at home if we had some level of capabilities, we would have been running surveillance flight from Maiduguri to as far as Northern Mali or Southern Libya to track Weapon sales and to destroy terrorist supply convoys headed to West Africa if we had certain capabilities.

Boko Haram would have remained a rag tag terror groups if we had certain capabilities.


So there is no need to defend our corrupt leaders. If they see the need to change their official car every year and the procurement of those cars always go through then there is no need to be telling Nigerians that it is a Turboprop that will guarantee their nations security.

As for the JF17 I believe the Pakistanis would be very willing to see a foreign country rondel on the plane as soon as possible so I don't think the delay is from them. I think we all know where it is from or we fear were it may be coming from.

Odunayaw:
They learn about a new plane,they think they are defence experts

They imagine things in their heads, they create a blog

God have mercy

and then you open the blog and comment whatever your egotistical mind ask you to write. It's the same thing. One understands one topic and speaks well about it, another thinks he is good at everything and despise others for sharing their opinion about topics that he thinks he is a pro at. I would be surprised if I get to know your kind of person, who you are and how much you have achieved but have you thought about it the other way, what if we are both surprised when we see each other and realise that commenting on this military threads are some of the greatest minds that the country have ever seen.

Dude forget my sarcasm I respect una oh. You guys are very bright. But we all have different opinions either the person commenting is a trader or a carpenter the good thing is that the person wants to see a better and stronger Nigeria.

This would change the future of marine transportation. People may soon begin to drive themselves around in such craft on sea.

LTGEN:
Today is Nigeria's Independence day as such I will be civil to you .I seriously doubt you understand some of the Statements you are making
Building a first class Military Base in Nigeria or America is nothing you the difference is they are built for Nigerians by Nigerians and are occupied and used by Nigerians.
Let me get back on Topic.
Kenya has spent Millions on Somalia
Nigeria has spent Millions on Somalia
Ethiopia has spent Millions on Somalia.
Neither Country built a permanent base there
Because each African Country came there to help their African brothers and Sisters in time of need.
There is no ulterior motive.It shows the level of Colonial mentality that still exists in you that you would praise a European Country that has been shown to have an extremely dodgy record in the Middle East as your source of administration.

wise man. Nice one. A Somalia that does not have hospital facilities and basic infrastructure is the one that they are building that kind of structure in. If they want to help let them build a Turkish university of science, let them build Turkish hospitals and let them build water systems and roads.

newafricaken254:
i understand you because you haven't seen a world class military training facility in the sub sahara countries,thats why you are flabbergasted (thinking you have seen something from planet mars)this is what decades of independence has reduced sub sahara countries so called militarizes to look like,squalid training facilities,planes that are left in the open until they rust,recruits forced to train to swim in the rivers(because the military can't build swimming pools e.t.c )pilots who are trained basic flying in foreign countries e.t.c

despite the corruption in the Nigerian military even some officers quarters will leave you surprised. Some of our military hospital complex will leave you stunned. We have some great facilities here.

The last is a Girls school for officers kids.

homerac7:
Calm daaaawn! Oga, calm down!

Ok... Ok... You've made your point, and we can see with it that you know names of some combat aircrafts. Well-done...


But still calm down.

Your argument is faulty because you outrightly threw out reasonable explanation made to you by the poster above us. Read him again and listen, he isn't far from reality.

Who go sell you AC130? Why una just like to dey drop big big names anyhow? Oya, show us which country US don ever sell AC130 give...


On Super Tucano, you obviously know so little of the tactical usefulness of the aircraft, otherwise you won't mention BH attacking it with AAs. It will roast the AA convoy from BVR. Find out again what it's targetting pod and smart bombs are for.

Who also told you it will be irrelevant in another 20-30 years? Are you aware that it's being touted as likeliest aircraft to replace the Warthogs in USAF? Bro, get your info right.

I, for one, thinks it's good thin to get them. Then, we should get the YAKs to replace our Alphas, and mix of single (light) engine interceptors and double engine (heavy) multi role jets from Russia. That mix should be good for next 30 yrs, while we move on to heavy and light lift capability replacement program me.

dude an AC130 is simply a C130 with attack capabilities a country can chose to do that upgrade. But that's not my point. Purchasing 12 planes that is dedicated to fighting terrorism after the war against terror is almost over is a complete waste.

If everybody agrees that a Nigeria that does not have one single full fledged multi-role platform that can hold it's own in a contested airspace in this 21st century or that would play the role of an interceptor then I don't think there is a need for us to have an Air Force maybe we should call it an Air support force or the Army Air wing.

In conclusion. We are way too far behind to be spending so much on 12 aircraft's that would only protect us from our citizens that takes the path of Militancy.

The Terrorists are in such a state that spending more on the JF17 which is already in our cart would have been a wiser step. 3 JF17(whose status are debateable) and twelve Tucanoes. I don't know what we all think but I think it's not right.

Fgu

LTGEN:
First point of correction.
1.You don't need 6 years to acquire any Aircraft on average if things are done G2-G2 it takes two years and even then during that period it can be delayed due to upgrades or a country as it may wont to do change its mind the Indian Russian deal with regards to the SU 30 is a classic example.
The A29 Tuscano deal as has been explained repeatedly involves more than procuring 12 Birds.It involves training, it involves Precision guided Bombs and Missiles, it involves unguided Bombs.It also involves infrastructure which means not just buildings but almost certainly some form of simulators of which Nigeria has none.
Are the planes expensive yes they are.
Are the planes worth it yes they are.
No one has tried to compare the SU25 to the A-29
My stance is the A29 long term is the better plane.
When Nigeria in 1975 bought it's fleet of C-130s
It was considered as being expensive.Today some are still being flown all over the World.
This will be the story of the A-29.

Oga don't write point of correction. You are writing your opinion not correcting anybody. Except you are one of the decision makers that know everything about the deal, the deep and the lows or Air Force Spokes Person then you have no justifiable intellectual bearing on this matter to be correcting anybody. Just write your opinion and leave am like that.

Secondly.
the conditions under which these planes are coming are too humbling, too expensive and they are too over rated. The Tucano is the perfect COIN aircraft but outside COIN what benefits does it offer?

Why buy twelve attack planes that we can only operate within Nigeria apart from insurgency are we planning to go to war against ourselves?

12 turboprop attack planes That Won't see the Air in a contested airspace for 600mils. What the Tucano does now future developments in Air technology would see drones and unmanned planes doing them within the nearest future so what's with the 30years thing.

The C130 is no longer the ultimate cargo plane but it fulfils it role well and nobody doubts that. It's now obvious there was no plan to phase it out when it was being procured.

But why buy a plane that have been in use for seventy years now and say you want to operate it for thirty years to come. Dude when you talk you think oh. Do you want your kids future to be protected by super tucanoes? You want your kids to live in a country whose national security is guaranteed by turboprops. When nations of the world are already partnering for future fighter programs you are telling me you want to operate Tucanoes for years. Even the SU-25 and the fair child republics A10 warthog will soon be replaced by better systems and drones.

Just watch. Even those many story about the aircraft been expensive cus of PGMs , training consoles and maintenance will soon change we will soon be faced with some frightening but unavoidable truths about this deal.

Boko Haram that you chased out of Sambisa with Alpha jets now you want to buy PGM' s and tucano to do what? When you needed it we nor see. Now it's time to re-build the military into a standard conventional Armed Forces after all the tweaking to our doctrine that came with us fighting a non conventional force, you say you want to buy 12 turboprops to chase terrorists which terrorists?

You want border patrol platform buy drones. Those saying it would be used for border patrol where are you getting your info from. Did the airforce specify it would use it in that role?

We ve tried to buy the Tucanoes for almost 6 years unsuccessfully what that means is there have been a gap all this time that needs to be filled. At this point in our war against terror even a C130(A) would be a threat to the disorganised and disoriented terrorists but it's now that we are buying an expensive plane meant for "COIN alone "

A plane that you won't even contemplate calling up if there is a convoy of terrorist moving with some serious anti Aircraft Guns. If a ZSU can bring down a russian SU25 then the obvious can be the truth about our expensive "sophisticated " turboprop trainers when they go against anti aircraft guns. With those birds in the sky the terrorist confidence of survival will be improved. They now have the confidence that the bird in the sky can be brought down, it is no longer a mystic iron clad angel of death. It's just a super tucano that we can shoot down if we are lucky.

LTGEN:
"The Super Tucano is a single engined turboprop plane made in Brazil. There is nothing particularly unique or ground breaking in its airframe."
The A29s that Nigeria will be getting will manufactured in the U.S.
A key point to remember is quality control and life expectancy. Nigeria bought her C-130S in the late 70s they are still being flown today .Likewise when these planes arrive at least two years from now they will still be flying 30 years from now.
You cannot compare the SU25 frogfoot( which incidentally has been in the news lately for being shot down a lot) to the A29. They are two completely different planes. Most U.S. planes have a version of what is called the Titanium Bathtub since the VIETNAM WAR. It is expected the A29s will come with a similar type of version.
To the best of my knowledge not a Single A29 has been shot down by the Taliban in Afghanistan , and if the U.S. still has it's own pilots flying this little bird if it is good for US PILOTS it is good enough for Nigerian pilots .Reputedly it has a range of 3,000 miles which gives it extensive loiter time at a time we don't have a plane that can do that and will be the first dedicated aircraft in the NAF 'S Inventory dedicated to Coin and Asymmetric warfare the NAF most definitely need to get this Aircraft.

so you want to use a turboprop for thirty years. When people have already started initiating and sponsoring advanced future fighter programs. Dude. One SU25 gets downed and that makes the Tucano a better plane? OK. Face an F18 with a Tucano and let's see what becomes of the pilot and his plane. Cus the SU25 was shot down by one of those. The US that has this plane also operate the A10 warthog and it remained their preferred platform for close air support. Buying the Tucano may be a good idea but buying twelve of it at that price even if they are going to mount it with a telescope is ridiculous.

You use 6 years to order for a plane today then when you need armament or spare parts for it you will use another 6 years to wait. Who is deceiving who? Those saying we can easily get parts from Brazil should sit down and be deceiving themselves. If US is not going to sell you parts then nobody else will have the guts to do that. No nation will risk the frown of a big power because they want to supply worthless scrap iron to one African country. If US decide to stop selling parts to us, even North Korea may not want to sell us those parts. What do they have to gain? International relations goes beyond buying and selling.

komekn:
The Super Tucano is a single engined turboprop plane made in Brazil. There is nothing particularly unique or ground breaking in its airframe.

HOWEVER, what is the difference

It has been fitted with a whole range of modern day avionics. HUD, FLIR, MAWS,MDP, and of course the various weapons system it can carry and deploy. It has some limited Kevlar pilot protection but thats about it.

Options there are a multitude of available airframes with similar power to weigh ratio at a a fraction of the price. It's not rocket science but we should have the capacity to buy a much cheaper airframe and retro fit it with all the HUD, FLIR, MAWS and needed weapon systems at a fraction of the cost.

Best value and most judicious and effective use of resources. CERTAINLY NOT. Consider the Sukhoi 25 Frogfoot (Flying tank) the nick name is very descriptive of its capabilities. It may not have all the bells and whistles of the Tucano depending on variant but there are several retro upgrades available by S.African, Isreali and German companies. The Su25M is actually way more effective in every regard it can take anti aircraft fire and survive even to some degree Infra red missiles, depending on strike point. Has DIRCM if you enter into further hostile territory changing its mission configuration. You can land a Frogfoot almost on any rudimentary airfield and it's operating costs are even lower than the Tucano. By the way in times of desperation it can run on low grade fuel shockingly I have had reports of diesel fuel. How much does it cost under $10 million if you go for refurbished depending on how you procure and retro fit. You really could be talking of less than $6/7 million per unit. That's about 24 aircraft for less than $240 million if you procure new and have time to wait. Or half that price if you buy from the eastern block countries with retrofit and or just go directly to Russia. Having 24 aircraft that although not supersonic with full load. Fast enough to deploy within 5/7 minutes anywhere in the North east. That is essentially 24 hr non stop immediate coverage on multiple targets when identified. But add to that lower operational costs, survivability with far more efficacy and a 30 year life span on the airframe. Compared to my estimation $40+ million per unit Tucano in my opinion and far less effective , it's a No brainer.


Which would you rather have

Remember just one lucky hit on those Tucano's and it's all over, $40+ million per unit. Particularly, with the noisy turboprop you can hear it well before it gets to you unlike the Frogfoot. Giving Boko gunners an easy target with those anti aircraft HMG they have across North East.

brother I really don't know why we are even thinking of buying those planes and to consider the fact that we ve been bidding for them since 2012. Other serious Air Force have inducted so many classes of aircraft's since then. The SU25, THE Yak 130 and so many aircraft will fulfill it's role and so many other roles by also serving as trainers for future pilots on a jet propelled platform. But somehow the thing just tire me. E dey weak me Wen people will be designing the aircraft like it is the best that can happen. Many better jets are out there and for cheaper and less humbling conditions.

If we buy those aircraft to fight terror what happens when the war against terror is over? Are we going to send them into storage or use them as trainers for our pilots? Why is the jet so expensive? Even if they are building the needed infrastructure to sustain the jet here the cost is too much for just twelve turboprops.another question is isn't it foolish to spend so much on a sophisticated turboprop? there are too many questions to be asked my brother.

And I strongly believe we are not asking them. 12 turboprops for more than 500 million dollars to fight terror. Then the terrorists have won already na. If they can force us to tie such amount on an aircraft that cannot and will not adapt to the dynamic and elvoving future threats that may face the nation then why buy it then.

If they are purchasing 3 or 6 it's understandable not a whooping 12 of a plane that could best be used by farmers for spreading insecticide on a carrot farm. It is just the equivalent of giving a Camry an expensive refub and then calling it a sport car and saying it can hold it's own against other sport cars in the race track.

In my own opinion the Tucano is another example of the incompetence and unpatriotic attitude of our leaders. Because of 12 turboprops that you want to use to attack terrorists which you have already better desimated without these planes, the Senate of a well recognised country is busy telling the world that your Armed Forces is unprofessional and they abuse and kill civilians. Yet you ve seen no reasons to stop any further bid of arm procurement from that country. You keep bidding and every year they keep telling the world that you have an unprofessional Armed Forcesand you kept it up, as if you are the sponsor of an elaborate smear campaign against yourself.

With such remarks from its main sponsor our Armed Forces have lost its credibility on the UN and other international organizations, making us somewhat of the last nation that would be selected to join a peace keeping intervention anywhere outside ECOWAS Now if God Forbid we didn't get this jet it would take our Armed Forces years and years to rebuild the trust and confidence of the international system that took many men their lives and limbs to build in some of the hottest conflict that Africa was recorded in Africa, imagine all this nonsense for a bird that would not reflect national pride, that would not in any way tilt the regional balance of power in our favor.

And all this for a bird that would only fly for one season.

Those saying the jets is best suited for the Niger Delta militant crises may be right, but is the Niger Delta a war zone, does that justify the procurement of 12 well armed flightless war planes?

The Nigerian Leaders of today really know nothing about national pride. A course in international relations and strategy should be a requirement for leadership to avoid all this nonsense. All the men that ever made Nigeria proud got theirs from the institute of strategy at Jos, Plateau Obasanjo and Murtala including.
but some ignoramus just go out there and stand in front of the whole world and make funny comments about North Korea. If the boy threathen us now we will start begging America for Javelin to shoot down ballistic missile, because that is how we buy things, not because it is effective but because it look like something that can be effective.

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jakeporeshenko:
maybe a new type of UCAV too, when I google this missile all i see is the Wing Loong drone.

it was designed for the Wing Loong but it is something the CH3 can carry. I think it's for the CH3

jakeporeshenko:
And we have a winner you’re absolutely correct.

turns out the drones can actually haul this bomb. According to their payload spec

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