European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:52pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
Bombblacks: Exactly. We are Manchester feckin United, what’s the point in being a sporting powerhouse of a brand if we don’t have any financial power to outmuscle our rivals and retain our spot at the top table. Yeah we’ve wasted money, sure, but we should be able to spend double and correct it ffs! Its our money generated by the club and fans so should be spent on the club and infrastructures. when club like city does this, you say they're buying the league.. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:51pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
ChristoBam: Did you even read what I said. Where did I say we've wasted money there. Back a manager every summer with transfers. That's what is expecting from a club like United.
I remember how hyped I was about LVG's second window. It was supposed to be a busy summer. Would have been an utter failure if not for the late purchase of Martial.
Don't let me even talk of Mourinho.
This is why we're where we are. what we need is a philosophy and director of football, that will buy players that fit that system, and only higher coaches that fit that system, ETH didn't sign any player at ajax, he was given the player, but they were bought, because they could play a particular style of football he wanted... this buying of players, the coaches want is part of the reason we're in this mess, if things don't go well and he's sacked, the next manager comes, and tells you he wants his own.. that's another loss.. we have good players, that fit different styles.. the club should employ a DOF .. identify targets, and work with the manager, to see if he likes or wants them |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:42pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
Illimitable: United make the most money in England. There’s no reason Chelsea, Man City(who can’t fill their seats) or even Juventus be in the same level as United.
£600m revenue per annum is £6 billion in 10 years. How are we spending only £1.3 billion of that on players?
Do a ratio of how much Chelsea, Man City, Juventus have spent on players in the last 10 years to their total revenue and you would get a true picture of how things have been under the Glazers. you're not adding the operating cost, we have one of the biggest wage bill in Europe.. are you saying we should spend even more, even if we are the highest spenders... juve you mentioned don't usually even spend much on transfer they are free agent destination for players, they pay high salaries. Wring coaches, and buying players that suit different system depending on the coach, is the reason we're in this mess |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:26pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
eph12: Hmm so its not for the club but to appease Ronaldo  mention 7 quality players this window that we could have gotten.. the new coach obviously believes in a lot of these old players, he's not been forced to use them.. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 4:39pm On Jul 27, 2022 |
Illimitable: Why should Ronaldo put up with the lack of standards currently at Man Utd? He’s Mr Champions League. He told Man Utd from the off that he doesn’t want to come here, make huge salary and finish 5th or 6th.
United forfeited an entire season in October when they kept on persisting with the Norwegian fraud. When the results got embarrassing to the point that fans walked out of OT in the middle of a game, they decided to sack Ole and they brought in a replacement.
The replacement asked for some signings to level up, the board refused. Rangnick later said the recruitment this summer should be huge and that maybe 10 new players would be needed. United have only bought 3 or 4 players and 8 players have departed.
If you are Cristiano, does this look to you like an ambition to compete with City or Liverpool? The season hasn’t even started and everyone already knows United cannot win the PL next season. That’s the lack of standards that is pissing Ronaldo off. Man Utd could have made a statement in the transfer market by bringing in at least 8 tier-A players to compete.
Why should Ronaldo waste his final years of his career playing for 5th or 6th? He scored the most goals for the club last season. He won PFA player of the month twice(highest in the country), he scored the most goals against the top 5 teams in the entire division. If the other dross players in the team contributed as much as he did, United would have finished 2nd or 3rd.
I support any decision he makes. He has been betrayed by Man Utd. show me a club that signs 8 players I 1 window.. where are ypu going to get 8 quality players in 1 window, for you to bring in 8 players, you have to sell many players.. You can't do this just to appease a 37 year old.. rebuilding takes time.. in 2 to 4 Windows, the squad will look different.. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:35am On Jul 27, 2022 |
Illimitable: The club’s money that doesn’t get spent is converted to dividends that buy yachts and helicopters for the Glazer kids.
They spent money on Maguire and Pogba and so what? The club makes £600m every year. So what’s the big deal in spending on Pogba or Maguire?
Pep has replaced every player in his squad bar De Bruyne. He arrived in the summer of 2016.
Do you know how many players United still have in their squad that was here before the summer of 2016?
That’s the difference in the ambition of both clubs. And we have spent more than city since then.. check. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:34am On Jul 27, 2022 |
Illimitable: The club’s money that doesn’t get spent is converted to dividends that buy yachts and helicopters for the Glazer kids.
They spent money on Maguire and Pogba and so what? The club makes £600m every year. So what’s the big deal in spending on Pogba or Maguire?
Pep has replaced every player in his squad bar De Bruyne. He arrived in the summer of 2016.
Do you know how many players United still have in their squad that was here before the summer of 2016?
That’s the difference in the ambition of both clubs. The club will pay dividends whether we spend or not.. football is a business, if they buy yacht with their money that is none of our business.. man united does not spend is a myth, rather unstrategic and over spending, is what put us in this mess. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:56pm On Jul 26, 2022 |
Illimitable: Lamptey is better than all the options we have got.
Sangare is the closest player in style to FDJ in Europe. He’s one of the best midfielders around. Just have him at the base of that midfield and watch him go.
Antony’s price tag shouldn’t be our headache. The more money we get from the Glazers going to player transfer, the better for me. They are the stingiest owners around so I don’t care how much they lose in transfer fees. My concern is squad investment. same glazers that spent on maguire pogba etc.. they are not spending their money, they spend d clubs money.. so we have to spend wisely.. Lamptey is too injury prone, and his crossing is very average ... varane should be our best defender but never available.. sangare is in the same boat with Fred and McTom in terms of type of midfielders... Like eth said, he doesn't just want to bring players, but the right players |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:09am On Jul 25, 2022 |
Seems like FDJ will stay at Barca.. I think ETH alternative would be martine there, and maybe garner a back up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:26pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
MRTA7: Elanga, Amad, Pellistri and Garnacho cannot be our attacking options this season. We need to sign another wide attacker and those boys need good loan spells. Not all, we can integrate 1 or 2 with the first team.. you will not see their best with the second team |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:26pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Mctominay bench is assured. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:11pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Most of the ball he lost self was inside opponent box, because he wanted to pass instead of shoot |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:09pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
They've moved from vdb to eriksen now.. you all think eriksen doesn't lose d ball.. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:12pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
ChristoBam: It's too much tbh. For the shortest CB in the league. when I talk dey say we are supporting the coach with his target, but In truth, half d time a coach doesn't get his 1st target, guardiola wanted maguire, he ended up with diaz, he wanted fred, ended up with gundogan, wanted kane, ended up with halaand, .. Besides you don't just go spending top dollar for a coach.. he has to show that he's what spending top dollar for. But its a risk, if it pays off fine.. if it doesn't, back to square one. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:39pm On Jul 17, 2022 |
We say we dont want other clubs to bully us into overpaying for players, but still spent £55m on lisandro martinez.. we never learn, when you price a player better than him, the selling club will tell you bring £80m or nothing.. selling clubs will keep using united to do maga, Woodward or not. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 5:59pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
I think VDB can be a backup striker us, man has good movement in the box. For midfield he shys away from d ball too much or doesn't want to hold on to it, rather a quick 1 2. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:03pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Bombblacks: Even Pereira looked World class during Pre-season. You guys need to calm down. Pre season friendlies doesn't show anything and should not be taken seriously. relax perierra isn't a bad player, we just had a dysfunctional system, he would play better in the system, as he's actually more technical than mcfred, mctominay bench will be long, Fred is good |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:31pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
LostMyZeal: Those blind ones that'll claim not to see my guyy
I hope you can see he's been trying to make those runs around the box but the passes aren't forthcoming from those midfielders SS work, bruno does that also.. but he should drop down and build play. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 9:44am On Jul 15, 2022 |
afrodoc2: That is Sir Kazeem bro. Sir Kazeem.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:36am On Jul 15, 2022 |
[quote author=TrebleChamp post=114740237]Bruno is in trouble ooh, Boss has confirmed VDB best position.... Video link below....
d trouble here.. eth just confirmed what we've been saying VDB can't create for others, instead he's a second striker, that knows how to find his way in the box. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:20pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Trevor012: Malacia, Eriksen, Martinez and De Jong are almost done. Anthony you are next!! i don't think manu will pull this 1 off, they would have negotiated both together. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:58am On Jul 14, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: During the covid pandemic and last season he agreed to defer his salary via a pay cut alongside other top earners like busquets, coutinho, pique et al after the departure of Messi and griezmann who earned the most at the club, That's why you see news of Barca owing pique 80m, It was needed to register Players and trim the bloated wagebill to post losses for the last financial season, And fdj is earning 14m + 4m out of his deferred salary next season He also has other hefty clauses like loyalty, performances and trophy bonuses,. Each year till his contract ends his salary will bump up alongside his deferred payments and bonuses, That's why he's being moved out to trim our wagebill to accommodate others, Nothing concerns man united's what he wants is the deferred wages before leaving. He can choose to stay, and you'll still pay him.. that's why he's there |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:14am On Jul 14, 2022 |
Kilishihunter: There's nothing like salary is holding up his move bro, Either the English media or agents have been fingered to have leaked that, Coutinho also had deferred salaries but he's already in Villa now, Deferred or postponed salaries can be paid anytime, it's all about the agreement with the stated player, It can't hold up a move if the player really wants to leave he restructured is contract so he receieved way less than he was supposed to recieve, that is why is salary is so huge now.. this is not a case of deferred wages. It's like me earning 10m per year for 5 years but it was restricted so I earn 3m per year for the first 2 years then the remaining years 14m per year, but now barca wants to sell him before starts earning 14m per year.. which is cheating, as that wasn't is original contract |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 6:48am On Jul 14, 2022 |
Mikechinos: They don't play the same position. We need de Jong or someone similar who can make our play from the back more successful and control games martinez can play that position well.. if we brought de jong we were never going to sign a DM, he's going to play that position to build play from d back. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 6:47am On Jul 14, 2022 |
LostMyZeal: It's obvious that our coach is trying to control the narrative from the press, but some people are masturbating already.
Fun fact: All your faves played against Liverpool's feeder team. So there's nothing really there to see 
He's already said he wants to assess the squad and that's why he's made no changes so far.
Maguire is still the captain and the XI remains the XI.
It is expected that any new acquisition will be gradually eased into the team, while the old unrepentant cabal of unserious players will be quietly moved on - and rightly so.
But if you think Erisken, who's at least assured of a starting berth at Brentford, chose United over Brentford just to come watch our midfield stink up the place from the bench, then you're just being naive.
When our gra gra finish and we're into the season proper, the new signings will be gradually eased in.
Like I said: we'll see who will turn up when it matters the most. The season is a Marathon afterall. Bro what are you saying.. you say everybody has a clean slate, then go on to day eriksen is sure starter. Eriksen would always choose utd over brentford, because united would always offer better wages. Eriksen knows he's not assured a starting position. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 11:17pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
With martinez, I think manu will care less about de jong, if barca pays is salary they owe him fine.. if they don't that deal won't happen |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:15pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
ChristoBam:
Do you watch Rodri play? Dey bring McFred stats against Rodri. even d Rodri has his flaws. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:36pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
BlueAngel444: is that 101 shots, if 31 is on target and 44 is off target, wetin come happen to the remaining 20+ shots  probably blocked |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:55am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Trevor012: Come and see this brilliant comment na. This was exactly what I was saying the other day on how Ten hag used Blind so Maguire won't have any problem when that one was saying nonsense about highline this and highline that. It's so refreshing when you see a comment that corresponds with your line of thought. Read
""""The disadvantage of having slower straight line speed for centre backs is usually grossly overstated. There are many ways of defending in the middle third of the pitch that doesn't involve just sprinting backwards. I'm not sure why many act like playing in a high defensive line means the defenders constantly running backwards chasing the opposition's forwards. For what it's worth, the average CB is never catching the average forward once the latter gets a yard. The key to making a high defensive line work is to ensure the CBs rarely get in such positions. The extra CB and FBs are there for cover and a sweeper keeper is usually employed. That's how I expect Ten Hag and Maguire to play it unless De Gea is going to pull up after every 30 yard sprint of course. The defenders at the likes of Manchester City, Liverpool and other teams that want to play in the opposition's half regularly come up against forwards much faster than them, and do just fine. Aymeric Laporte and Ruben Dias are never going to beat Miguel Almiron in a foot race, but they do just fine when Man City come up against Newcastle. It's okay if you argue against Maguire's caliber, but not sure why his pace is going to be the reason why he can't be the same. Defenders playing in high defensive lines are always going to come up and contest one-on-one duels against forwards much faster than them. It's not uncommon, and Maguire won't be the only relatively slow CB out there. What matters is being in positions to intercept the through balls, getting tight to avoid being squared up, staying strong to avoid being rolled, and the other defenders and goalkeeper providing the cover they are expected to. Maguire admittedly had a very terrible season last time, but when in form, he is strong physically, aggressive and proactive up the pitch in the sense that he tries to get himself in good positions before the attacker receives the ball. He is usually close to the top of the interception stats for defenders which shows that he is very good at getting himself between man and ball, a very effective way to defend against forwards that are much quicker. He is strong in the air too, so the ball is not going to be flying over him.""" Have you seen maguire turn.. there's a reason dey call him fridge.. he takes too much touch on the ball, and blind you use as ŕeference is very intelligent, so he knows how to position, even at that ajax concedes lots of silly goals |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:51am On Jul 13, 2022 |
LostMyZeal: I couldn't help but realize that some people here actually want VDB to flop, just so at the end they'll say they're right.
You people just never learn and it's so funny 
It's just 1 game with Liverpool's C team and let's not pretend that we didn't park the bus in that second half - which of course is the ideal thing to do.
Wether you choose to believe it or not, there's nothing to be really excited about with these crop of players, except we do more in the TW.
And what's even more disturbing is those ones Yabbing Nunez for that miss.
When it counts the most, we'll see the teams that'll turn up.
I'm not sorry to say, but United is not back.
And for those of you crying about Bruno because he was criticised, just know that we haven't even scratched the surface yet - of course until he repents.
Your so-called favorites were fielded against team C, while VDB's team had to park the bus and play against team B and A. Now do the maths.
Or should we talk about the fact that the second half was more interesting than the first that was garnished with our first 11  if Bruno played that second half, even with d Park de bus, he wouldn't dissappear.. we are not hoping vdb will flop we're just pointing out who d better player is.. by your logic I can say you are hoping manu will flop to prove a point that the team is bad. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:35pm On Jul 12, 2022 |
Lamptey isn't a good defender, Brighton plays with 3 at the back most times.. and is crosses are poor |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:50am On Jul 12, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: It mean plenty, fitness is very key. Didn't you notice how our players easy tires out in games, expecially in the second half. ETH should make fitness top priority too in his training programme.... it is a gradual step.. |