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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:15pm On Jul 13, 2022
ChristoBam:
grin Do you watch Rodri play? Dey bring McFred stats against Rodri.
even d Rodri has his flaws.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:36pm On Jul 13, 2022
BlueAngel444:
is that 101 shots, if 31 is on target and 44 is off target, wetin come happen to the remaining 20+ shots shocked
probably blocked
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:55am On Jul 13, 2022
Trevor012:
Come and see this brilliant comment na. This was exactly what I was saying the other day on how Ten hag used Blind so Maguire won't have any problem when that one was saying nonsense about highline this and highline that. It's so refreshing when you see a comment that corresponds with your line of thought. Read




""""The disadvantage of having slower straight line speed for centre backs is usually grossly overstated. There are
many ways of defending in the middle third of the pitch that doesn't involve just sprinting backwards. I'm not
sure why many act like playing in a high defensive line means the defenders constantly running backwards
chasing the opposition's forwards. For what it's worth, the average CB is never catching the average forward once the latter gets a yard. The key to
making a high defensive line work is to ensure the CBs rarely get in such positions. The extra CB and FBs are
there for cover and a sweeper keeper is usually employed. That's how I expect Ten Hag and Maguire to play it
unless De Gea is going to pull up after every 30 yard sprint of course. The defenders at the likes of Manchester City, Liverpool and other teams that want to play in the opposition's half
regularly come up against forwards much faster than them, and do just fine. Aymeric Laporte and Ruben Dias are
never going to beat Miguel Almiron in a foot race, but they do just fine when Man City come up against
Newcastle. It's okay if you argue against Maguire's caliber, but not sure why his pace is going to be the reason
why he can't be the same. Defenders playing in high defensive lines are always going to come up and contest one-on-one duels against
forwards much faster than them. It's not uncommon, and Maguire won't be the only relatively slow CB out there.
What matters is being in positions to intercept the through balls, getting tight to avoid being squared up, staying
strong to avoid being rolled, and the other defenders and goalkeeper providing the cover they are expected to. Maguire admittedly had a very terrible season last time, but when in form, he is strong physically, aggressive and
proactive up the pitch in the sense that he tries to get himself in good positions before the attacker receives the
ball. He is usually close to the top of the interception stats for defenders which shows that he is very good at
getting himself between man and ball, a very effective way to defend against forwards that are much quicker. He
is strong in the air too, so the ball is not going to be flying over him."""
Have you seen maguire turn.. there's a reason dey call him fridge.. he takes too much touch on the ball, and blind you use as ŕeference is very intelligent, so he knows how to position, even at that ajax concedes lots of silly goals
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:51am On Jul 13, 2022
LostMyZeal:
I couldn't help but realize that some people here actually want VDB to flop, just so at the end they'll say they're right.

You people just never learn and it's so funny grin

It's just 1 game with Liverpool's C team and let's not pretend that we didn't park the bus in that second half - which of course is the ideal thing to do.

Wether you choose to believe it or not, there's nothing to be really excited about with these crop of players, except we do more in the TW.

And what's even more disturbing is those ones Yabbing Nunez for that miss.

When it counts the most, we'll see the teams that'll turn up.

I'm not sorry to say, but United is not back.

And for those of you crying about Bruno because he was criticised, just know that we haven't even scratched the surface yet - of course until he repents.

Your so-called favorites were fielded against team C, while VDB's team had to park the bus and play against team B and A. Now do the maths.

Or should we talk about the fact that the second half was more interesting than the first that was garnished with our first 11 tongue
if Bruno played that second half, even with d Park de bus, he wouldn't dissappear.. we are not hoping vdb will flop we're just pointing out who d better player is.. by your logic I can say you are hoping manu will flop to prove a point that the team is bad.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:35pm On Jul 12, 2022
Lamptey isn't a good defender, Brighton plays with 3 at the back most times.. and is crosses are poor
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 12:50am On Jul 12, 2022
TrebleChamp:
It mean plenty, fitness is very key. Didn't you notice how our players easy tires out in games, expecially in the second half. ETH should make fitness top priority too in his training programme....
it is a gradual step..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:43pm On Jul 11, 2022
ChristoBam:
Maguire is the last player you want caught out against a pacy forward one on one. Which is the situation he'll be in most of the time in a Ten Hag system.
it can work, if de gea can leave is line though
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:16pm On Jul 11, 2022
ChristoBam:
Have you seen Tottenham's training? After 2 hours of normal training, they're running till they pass out.

Makes me wonder about our chances of a top 4 finish.
it doesn't mean, I saw it, and that's actually dangerous, son could not stand up. what would it profit you to run and gas out, if you don't work on the technical aspect, like d passes we do.

Train smarter mot just harder.. that kind of intess training in that hot weather is not ideal
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 6:03pm On Jul 11, 2022
melodyogonna:
Why would he do that? Bruno was better at the style Ole wanted to play.
VdB is good in a team that works with movements and positioning, that's his major strength. Hopefully we will see him shine under ETH
simple VDB is a system player... outside of that he's useless, says alot about him. So why do you think bruno will not fit a system if he's trained to fit in.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 2:19pm On Jul 11, 2022
Trevor012:
If you think the problem we had last season was a Dm and not a midfielder capable of keeping possession and able to keep the team ticking when pressed then I really pity you. Sir ole wanted to evolve our style of play and that was not possible with Brainless players like FRED,Mctom and especially Bruno in midfield. For example Pair Ndidi /Kante with Fred plus Bruno and nothing would have changed last season.
Why did you learn darling manager not bench Bruno and play VDB na.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:28am On Jul 11, 2022
VDB is not even competing with bruno. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:06am On Jul 11, 2022
Now ajax want €60m for martinez.. They are doing all this because our coach is making it desperate for these players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 8:03am On Jul 11, 2022
kozmicity:
grin grin
Everybody dey vex. BTW, bailey and telles looked utterly clueless in the marking drills.

McTominay looked clueless again, but it was to be expected. Till today, I don't know why I like him
it's new to them na, give dem time they'll get it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 10:10pm On Jul 10, 2022
VDB survived at ajax because he didn't have to be a creator in that system, ajax had a lot of creators in tadic to de jong to ziyech even neres.

Anyway I won't be surprised if Bruno is benched afterall we've a coach that's he'll bent on reunion with ex players, instead of building a new 1.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 9:59pm On Jul 10, 2022
LostMyZeal:
It's baffling that you read all what I wrote and deduced that I've written Bruno off oh. You can check my previous posts about this matter and you'll see that I've been consistent with same message of 'bruno needs to work on his ball retention' - a message which his worshippers no like to hear.

You seem to have me mistaken for someone who hates Bruno oh. And then again, I never really compared Bruno and KDB. I have never compared them.

Feel free to check my previous posts and point out the anomalies and contradictions because at this point I'm confused.

What's even more strange is how you're telling me about Bruno's struggle - like Idg how it's relevant to what I wrote.

Walahi I'm confused grin
VDB play like d ball is hot yam in his mouth.. he plays make he nor spoil for my hand ball.. if VDB was playing AM for us last season, we would even crank 40 goals in the season
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:37pm On Jul 10, 2022
Expert17:
The player that can't pass has the highest accurate through pass in EPL for AM and the most key passes In EPL grin cheesy

They should place a bet on VDb benching Bruno
VDB will break his back before he can attempt these passes.. VDB can bench Bruno, butbit won't before footballing reason, maybe bad attitude and all that..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:06pm On Jul 10, 2022
[quote author=ovoP post=114593055] at that beautiful pass rashford fumbled vs villareal last season..

Bruno can pass, shoot has vision.. these were never his problem.. his problem was always trying to force the issue.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:02pm On Jul 10, 2022
Trevor012:
You just dey list bunch of average passes. Go and watch Ozil.Kdb, Fabregas etc giving passes before putting Bruno and vision in one sentence. Lukaku of midfielders.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 11:27am On Jul 09, 2022
Trevor012:
There is nothing like Bruno poor display last season. The way Bruno played last season is the same way he has played since he came to United. The only difference is the amount of awoof penalties he didn't get like previous seasons to fool people like you. Technical ability zero, dribbling zero, sense zero.
same guy was balling before we eventually signed ronaldo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 11:24am On Jul 09, 2022
VDB in that ajax team played like a SS ... he was never burdened with creating for the team.. he plays like lingard, muller etc . If ETH wants to play like that he may start.. There's a reason he wasn't benching anyone in that poor midfield of ours.. because he cannot recieve the ball turn and create for others..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 11:04am On Jul 09, 2022
Trevor012:
Some people dull sha. The attacking midfielder in a team having the most chances created and assists, what a shocker. The mugu actually thinks he has dropped something sensible cheesy cheesy
should we bring league stats
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 11:03am On Jul 09, 2022
patrickmuf:
Expert17, if you watch Bruno and don't think he has to improve certain aspects of his game then, I can't help you...
part of bruno poor display last season was because of ronaldo self.. instead of passing the ball to the nearest person, he will try d hard pass, cox ronaldo is signalling for the ball.. he stepped back and started looking for ronaldo more instead of doing his thing..

I watched van de beek again yesterday in a ajax match, and I don't see d ball control you talked about. Even berghius that was used to replace him is more technical. If at all the system was used to accommodate him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 9:01pm On Jul 08, 2022
LostMyZeal:
Ha ha ha.. . I'm guessing dem send General Bruno to go buy Okpa... If not

Some people's midfield goat fa cool
na here we dey.. VDB is then1 at risk for me sha...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 7:59pm On Jul 08, 2022
metodman:
We apparently put in 45m+5m while Ajax wants a guaranteed 50m
bloody overpay
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 6:31pm On Jul 08, 2022
Apparently we put in a €50m bid for martinez which was ajax asking price, now dey want more.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 6:11pm On Jul 08, 2022
TeslaFC:
Players who have good ball control in the squad are the ones most likely to benefit from ETH.

E.g. Sancho, VDB.
Yet he wants to buy brobbey, and we are talking of technical players.. not VDB doesn't have this ball control you're talking of.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:57pm On Jul 08, 2022
patrickmuf:
VDB has the advantage of knowing the system and is very good at it so, he'd thrive alongside other players who are comfortable on the ball passing and movement alike...

A midfield 3 of FDJ, VDB and Eriksen will see a lot of intricate plays between them compared to a Bruno who will quickly opt for a difficult ball in search of the striker...In all, VDB chances of starting depends on what ETH does with another potential arrival in Lisandro...

In ETH's system, it's VDB over Bruno regardless of the struggles of VDB last seaaon.
I still don't see VDB starting.. he may have done well that ajax season, but he's a limited player.. man can't play a long pass to save his life.. there's a reason he could never bench Bruno, even in his worse form. He plays too safe.. Eriksen can but I think him and Bruno will play together. Besides eriksen wouldn't be able to press as much.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:54pm On Jul 08, 2022
afrodoc:
I like that there is competition in that position. Bruno was too petulant last season and his discipline fell off. I still don't see how VDB gets a starting shirt though he could be a valuable member of the team. With 5 subs per match there should enough opportunities for everyone.
Bruno is a type of player, that if things are not going well, he tries to force the issue.. playing with a midfield with mctominay and Fred, can take its toll on you.. the both of them cannot spread the ball from 1 side of the field to Another with pass, this make him drop deep and start launching those long balls, which where effective when rashford was in form..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:49pm On Jul 08, 2022
patrickmuf:
He might have to settle for a shared role with Eriksen assuming we get all our targets and if ETH elects to play Lisandro as a DM then it's a battle between Eriksen/VDB/Bruno...I don't know who wins but I know who will lose out and it's definitely Bruno unless he modifies his game...
I just know bruno will play, even maguire will play, I think it's in these coaches contracts.. if not we would have waited before given him a new contract.. I don't know why but I don't Rate vdb, unless he's coming to play muller role in the team.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:46pm On Jul 08, 2022
patrickmuf:
Let me assume you are right so, why do you think the players coming in will struggle under a competent manager?
I'm not saying they'll struggle, my issue is the price, because If they don't fit in, or if ETH struggles, we'll have our hands full..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:09pm On Jul 08, 2022
patrickmuf:
Abeg stop already. Are you not tired of big name players and so called EPL proven players who have joined us and failed?

See you complaining of Malacia like WTF! You are not tired of Shaw and Telles? One of them will definitely leave...
they failed because we didn't have a competent manager, and the team was disjointed. When dey leave us, they do better
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 3:07pm On Jul 08, 2022
ChristoBam:
You don see the Brobbey grin?
very funny player grin . I like martinez, as Dm OK.. as a CB not sure.. if you watch ajax you would know their defense is often their weakness, which is why they left champions league in the RO16 even if they were scoring loads

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