₦airaland Forum

A40:
Citizens don't rape? Do you know if he is illegal? Does that make r@pe ok? I'm trying to understand your angle here

Illegal immigrant indicted in rape of pregnant Massillon 11-year-old
https://www.cantonrep.com/news/20190509/illegal-immigrant-indicted-in-rape-of-pregnant-massillon-11-year-old

Always the same they bring their wonderful culture into the USA. Raping children and driving while intoxicated killing other people. Not too mention the gang violence.

A40:
https://www.scarymommy.com/11-year-old-rape-victim-abortion/

These pro-lifers are really something else. An 11 year old has to carry a baby borne out of r@pe because of their nonsense self-righteous laws that doesn't put into account the difficulty children of that age and even a full-blown adult usually encounters during childbirth. It's always the folks with no wombs or that don't have to deal with these problems that have the most to say. I just wonder why they never keep this same energy with gun control and kids that are dying at these border posts. Smh

Her alleged rapist, Juan Leon-Gomez, has been indicted for felony rape and obstruction of official business by the Stark County Court and will appear in court later this May. Phucking illegals raping illegal children. Trump was right.

Good that is now 4 investigations on the Deep State for their attempted coup.

mysticwarrior:
how can they be the best when they fled like whipped dogs with their tails in between their legs from Vietnam, they ran away from
Afghanistan like herds of antelopes fleeing from hungry lions

US is still in Afghanistan. In Vietnam Americans had to play by rules that the Vietcong didn't have to follow. How many American corporations have operations in Vietnam today, hundreds. Mission accomplished. Like China before them Vietnam figured out that communism and socialism doesn't work.

mysticwarrior:
the ones with British ancenstry, after south Africa gained independence the Brits and the dutch still had influence on the government till the end of Apartheid.

They are regular citizens so it seems the British government left.

kapelvej:
That Bulgarian case was particularly a difficult one, because the Bulgarian was a national security threat. He was only just trying to come clean, but his prints...

What lol, no he wasn't a threat.

mysticwarrior:
the Brits did not leave completely they still there in south Africa.

The government or citizens with British ancestry?

mysticwarrior:
yes, especially in South Africa.

The Brits left there a long time ago. SA has been independent since the 60's?

kapelvej:
Sincerely I am happy I could engage with a nairalander at this level. Since the coming of Buhari and APC, nairaland has been turned to ethnic and religious battlefield. PDP, is not better, and I am not exempted from the religious and ethnic battles. However, Cuba was highly political and was a last minute deal to do something extra ordinary. All Americal presidents do this in their last term. DACA ANS DAPA, was not pursued vigourously. Moreover, DAPA AND DACA like the Liberia stuff came too late. He could have done those in his first term when everybody in the states, saw him as messiah, when both Congress and parliament were both controlled massively by democrats. It is just like the case of Buhari. two years after 2015 elections when he first came to power, Nigerians would accept anything he did, but not now. That was why Nigeria accepted pump prise increment from 80naira to 145 naira.

I think it is difficult for a President to do permanent residency via executive order. The US has granted amnesty/citizenship to people in the country illegally, generally targeting people from Mexico. But it starts with a Congressional bill. This first happened in 1986. People granted temporary status is another matter. 99% of the time they never want to go back. The USA is all over the place with immigration, visas etc.
A couple of years ago a family from Bulgaria got deported. The man and the wife were in the USA on student visas. The man acquired a PHD, was teaching music/violin in one of the best music schools in the USA. He also performed in concerts across the country. He had 2 children, born in the USA, owned a home. He spent $10,000 and filled out hundreds of papers for permanent residency. Application denied, ordered to leave the country.

panafrican:
Today UK and France control more than 90 %
of Africa anyway.. So whose interests were really at risk ?

Colonies still exist there?

kapelvej:
I think Obama's administration was in the best position to grant these lots permanent residence

He kinda tried that with DACA, and DAPA, executive orders. DAPA was struck down by the courts and there are a bunch of lawsuits on DACA. Likewise with temporary residence for Salvadorans, Haitians, and others. Obama also ended the wet foot dry foot for Cubans and ended allowing Haitians to enter.

Abbeybailey:
That ship left long time ago Oyinbo with a cancerous tan. I am going give your poor heart a failure. Born with citizenship on my umbilical cord. I know your brain is too charred to understand that poor boy.

What is wrong you can't handle living in Wakanda?

morpheus24:
You also have White men who run into mosques, synagogues and high schools shooting up innocent people in the US, UK, New Zealand. Some of them even believe " Val Halla" is real.

Moral of the story, there are stupid people everywhere.!

You go so far off topic it serious whatabouism. Terrorism, or a mass shooting in Africa doesn't even register in these parts. If witch doctors kill Albinos in Africa, nobody cares in the US, UK or NZ. 99% of people globally have no idea that a S. African man thinks raping a virgin, to cure AIDS, happens. You can't fix that. There is no system to educate that many idiots. The whites should leave S. Africa if they can.

Abbeybailey:
What do those guys know ?. The loudmouth forgets that Trump is a descendant of immigrants both on his paternal and maternal side. In fact, trump's mother was alleged to have come into America illegally from Scotland in 1929. This N30.000 crowd are just full of it.

You racist disgusting lying sack of trash, you should be deported back to wherever you stinking rear end came from.

morpheus24:
1.Its a 1st world surrounded by a third world.

2. Gold.....Gold and Diamonds made it first world not the Dutch. Correlation does not imply causation.

3. The Dutch did not build South Africa, cheap labour did.

I disagree, but so what. It is over. SA is done. I mean you have black men there, millions, who think raping a virgin 12 year old cures AIDS. LOL.

Wow how wrong did Obama's predictions turn out? He became a millionaire and President because he is considered Black. His oldest daughter dates a white man. How did he get into Cornell and Harvard? Obama went to one of the most expensive private high schools in the USA, in Hawaii. Who raised him. Who is Frank Marshall Davis?

Amujale:
I don’t sympathise with The Red Indians because they betrayed the trust of their African masters.

When the Red Indians arrived in the New World, we fed them, clothed them, and taught them how to pray to God.

And they betrayed themselves thinking that they are smart but then China invents gunpowder and Schweppes! the Red Indians get outsmarted on the field of battle. Something no Native American ever thought possible.

And now they are basking in the U.S.A colluding with Eurocentrics in failed attempts to stifle their masters (those African settlers) history.

The only way is forward progress in the lives of all of Africa in my opinion the Red Indians should own up to the truth. That will make our efforts the more satisfactory.

Can we all live in Wakanda?

morpheus24:
include DA in there as well, DA! DA!

Try to look on the bright side though, What goes down must come up eh!. When the money goes so will the "people" who came in the first place to "exploit the resource", then they will then be replaced by another set of "greedy" peoples in search of the "profit" motive; foreign or local and the whole cycle of rich and poor starts all over again.

Don't fret much. Life is a cycle. People in 1994 said that it was the end of South Africa, packed their bag and left but you still had people making money after 1994 didn't you?

Some came on ships, some walked. Most came because the Dutch made it first world. LOL.

morpheus24:
I wonder what politician on the other side of the political spectrum, who doesn't promise BS to his followers?

I guess you are left with the BS that serves your group the best, huh?

Look SA is going downhill fast, nothing will stop it. ANC, EFF whatever. It will reach stage 5 disaster level within 10 years. All of the money will be gone, off shore etc.

morpheus24:
Julius chooses Socialism as an economic system because he wants to be everything that is opposite to his perceived enemy since all his enemy's systems have failed the masses.

Almost all the movements in opposition to the Apartheid state were economic systems that were in opposition to that of their Oppressors. Its a no brainer, When he states that "capitalism has never worked for his people", he is not really lieing is he?

The DA cannot seem to articulate or reconcile its position of the benefits of a capitalist state faced with the issue of black empowerment and historical injustices and so will continue to remain or be viewed as the custodian of "White monopoly capital".

He is a phucking politician. Of course he is going to promise some sort of BS to his followers. Isn't he already on the take, getting money from well to do people? There isn't going to be some sort middle and upper middle class first worldism for S. Africa for the masses.
All of the elements of first worldism will die a slow death. Naspers probably has 1 foot out of the door, surprised they have not moved their HQ to a different country.

morpheus24:
I like I how you use the word "seize" here. A nice connotation that expresses your perception of the entirety of what all encompasses socialist theory/ideology, while ignoring arguments that discuss say dialectical materialism and how appropriate that might fit into the peculiarities of South Africa in terms of its history.

Socialism or socialist ideas are not necessarily anti market. They do however seek to facilitate "social outcomes" or "social programs" that are applicable in the South African context.

"seize", in the case of Cuba and Venezuela at gunpoint. If you want food stamps or welfare, lobby for it, that isn't socialism.

morpheus24:
PS. The apartheid regime was socialist economy in my opinion.

It did not allow for free competition of all peoples.

It did redistribute wealth/resources to a specific group of people.

It did manipulate the markets via special concessions to special interest groups.

It did bar certain groups of people participating freely in its open market system.

It did manipulate the circumstances of private ownership of property for a "large" group of its population.

It did restrict certain groups of people from economic participation. e.t.c

Socialism is state ownership of industry and means of production. So in Socialism the government seizes the private banks, manufacturing, building/construction, food production etc.

panafrican:
The Dutch would not have stolen South Africans' lands.
Many descendants of slave owners would be working under guards in corn fields in Europe.
There wouldn't be any EU bombing countries like Libya or Syria.
No international monetary Fund ripping off African countries.
No globalist and homosexual war machine destroying countries.
No homeless Palestinians.
No Vietnam war
No bloody African independence wars : Think about Algerian independent war, think about Angola, Cameroon, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Bissau Guinea.Think about the chaos in the Congo in the 1960s etc.

Germany would have colonized 2/3 of Africa, Italy would have had the top 1/3rd. Japan would be ruling that part of the world. Lots of wars and invasions by Japan into various E. Asian and SE Asian countries.

morpheus24:
NB:

Divide and conquer!

Divide and conquer!

Don't fall for the rhetoric.

I am Malawian and the Malawian is me!. I am the Zimbabwean and the Zimbabwean is me!. I am the Burundian and the Burundian is me!

They want you to remain working class. This is the genius of a capitalist system that creates a "special class" of people and endows them with all the resources in a given space while using as much cheap labor as they can to turn a profit.

Like Julius alluded to . I wait for the day that "Whites' will become our maids and carry our kids on their backs, clean our toilets or at least clean their own toilets. VIVA Africa!

Socialism doesn't work. BTW working class people in the USA can make very good money in construction trades, welding etc. If S. Africa goes the way of Venezuela, or Cuba before that, everyone is in misery except a few at the top. You can bet S. Africans with money, black or white already have placed off shore somewhere. Wealthy Venezuelans started doing that as far back as 2005.

Martinez39:
Are those the racist, aggressive, privileged, misogynistic, cis white males?

Yep that is them lol.

morpheus24:
PS These central Americans you speak of are technically Native Americans as well no, so you speaking of the same stock of people as we well know that a good percentage of the so called Native Americans in those reservations with Casinos are not "pure" ethnically.

There are like 1,000 different native tribes of the Americas. There are some differences with the ones in N. America vs. C. and S. America. In the USA there are a lot of people who claim Native ancestry, that have very little also.

panafrican:

In both socialism and capitalism, hard -working people are working for the lazy ones.
In capitalism, the government makes you believe you are free and you own your house. They make you work and work to build or buy that house , but you will have to pay taxes to the government on it. The day you are out of money, the government takes away from you the very same house they said was your, and sells it at an auction.
Not only that they raise tax on everything : gas, food, services, cars, appliances etc, after taking almost 40 % of your paycheck every pay period, through the tax system to give food stamps to lazy people and fund those single moms who have eight kids with eight different men.
Then the system makes you work until the age of 65 or beyond , so that you don't have enough time benefit from your pension when you retire.

Yeah I am not a fan of real estate taxes especially. I don't think a government should be able to take a property for failure to pay taxes.

Ilamina:
You Made it sound like black jamaicans cant claim jamaica

But just slaves who came to work on the island

Anyone who is a citizen, black, white, brown, yellow etc.

grandstar:
What of the Brits and Israelis?

They are very well trained also.

LOL there is plenty of sand. The UN, reminds me of this,
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190513/b313364f06eb7a4fb451d1403a60ad67.jpg

Ilamina:
Jamaica belongs too who, white people?

Anyone that is a citizen of the country.