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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:08pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
chrisley024:That boy is good. Pace, power, stamina. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:55pm On Oct 22, 2016 |
Middlesbrough though on chances created should have won the match but the kain bus wey dey park for Emirates eh Anyways karanka was mentored by Mourinho himself |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 12:48pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:we just need a win today, the squad will be heavily rotated so I don't expect us to run over fenerbache. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:46pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Timothy Fosu-Mensah extends contract to 2020 with the option of another year after expiration. "I am delighted to have signed a new contract here at Manchester United," Fosu-Mensah told the club's official website. Jose Mourinho "I am pleased that he has signed a new contract and I am delighted at the progress he has made so far. Congrats to him.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:31pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
I expect miki and Shaw to play against fenerbache on Thursday. Miki in particular should be in our first eleven by now if not that injuries and fitness problems have derailed him this season. For me he should start against Chelsea on Sunday. Pogba and ibrahimovic should be on the bench on Thursday, and Rashford should get another crack at the number 9 position. Jones no dey come back from injury ni |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:51am On Oct 18, 2016 |
elampiro:You guys are making it seem like the likes of Messi, cr7 or Bale haven't missed worst chances than that. Although you are right about Zlatan's confidence in front of goal, which is why the other players need to step up and score goals in other to ease the pressure on him. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:42am On Oct 18, 2016 |
Pogba don chop am from fans on Twitter. But the problem still persists, where best to play the man. My opinion, I think he should remain in midfield as a b2b. Mata or miki (if he can finally get to full fitness) should play behind ibrahimovic. Also I feel Rashford is wasting on the wings, either he plays as a striker or behind the striker. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:53pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
I don't get why certain folks here crave for certain people's opinion on certain players. It's becoming annoying to see such stuff here. You know the player is good, the whole footballing world know the player is good so why the f'ck is a single person's opinion more important than your own or that of the footballing world even when you know that the said person have a seething hatred for the player? This I greatly do not understand. Anyways I'm happy with the draw, yes folks here were expecting us to bulldoze Liverpool with the kind of players we have but you shouldn't be surprised by the gaffer's way of football, for him a point and not playing well is better than playing well and losing woefully. Kudos to Valencia, Fellaini, Bailey, Smalling, De gea(best signing in years, the guy that didn't fax his transfer documents to real Madrid on time should be applauded as well ) and Herrera who continues to prove doubters wrong. Up next, Fenerbache. 4 Likes 1 Share |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:20pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
elampiro:He's currently off form at the moment, it happens to strikers. The problem is that we don't have goalscorers in our team even though we have players capable of putting the ball in the back of the net. This is what Mourinho should try and fix cos we can't be relying only on ibrahimovic to bang in the goals. The Leicester match showed that we can score goals from anywhere but we have to consistently do it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:52pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
codedguy1:Oga a draw against this Liverpool team and in their home is a good result. |
TV/Movies / Re: SUPERNATURAL Fan Page by parrotibaba(m): 7:20pm On Oct 17, 2016 |
A nice premiere, looking forward to the next episode. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:14am On Oct 16, 2016 |
Oasis007:football doesn't work like that. It isn't about the quality of the players on each team but each team's chemistry and style of play. Someone asked a question here during the tottenham v city game about who have the better team between united and spurs and majority of the answer was spurs, why? because even though United have superior players, spurs have a superior team chemistry and so is Liverpool. Based on current form, Liverpool is tipped to win the clash, based on the last four pl games against them, we can have a say in the matter or the match can even end in a draw. We just have to wait and see what happens. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:05am On Oct 16, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:Yeah Mourinho is known for sticking with the same players for long periods of time, same as ancelotti. That was why I was willing to overlook our crappy display against Feyenood since most of the players haven't kicked a ball prior to that game but it's shocking that against minnows like Northampton we have to rely on the likes of ibrahimovic and rashford to see the game through since the ones on the field can't play to save their lives. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:07pm On Oct 15, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:And the worrying part is that our second eleven are unwilling to step up to the plate when needed, otherwise Mourinho shouldn't be thinking about fielding a strong squad against fenerbache when a trip to Stamford bridge is just 3 days later. Anyways let's see what the gaffer has in store for us this month. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:12pm On Oct 15, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:the Stoke match wasn't the manager's fault rather it was the players' profligacy that cost us that match. On another day, we would have lost that game or won it either 1-0 or 5-0 but that's football. Just look at City today, for all their endeavors they still left the match with a point despite totally outclassing and out playing Everton(and also missing 2 penalties). Yes we need to win the so called smaller games (a point I made at the beginning of the season) in other to stand a chance of winning the league title as they make up the bulk of the league, there's no doubt in that. Had we won against Stoke pressure won't be on us like it is now. Against Liverpool, one would expect us to win considering our squad and our recent record against them but yeah I would also take a draw at the very least. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:13pm On Oct 15, 2016 |
Lincolnn2:Yes they should be wining with swagger but not against this Liverpool team, barring an incredible 90 minutes of football on our side and crap on their side at anfield on Monday. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:34pm On Oct 15, 2016 |
Lincolnn2:Oga you want to go to Liverpool and win with swagger? How about being content with just a win anyhow? |
TV/Movies / Re: SUPERNATURAL Fan Page by parrotibaba(m): 7:58pm On Oct 11, 2016 |
Supernatural season 12 episode 1 promo. Supernatural season 12 premieres on Thursday, October 13th, 2016. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KisLPTwubR8&itct=CBwQpDAYAiITCOXe05K1088CFQO1HAodxzoE8VImc3VwZXJuYXR1cmFsIHNlYXNvbiAxMiBlcGlzb2RlIDEgcHJvbW8%3D&client=mv-google&gl=NG&hl=en |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:35pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Abeg adisaowala I no wan mk Pogba come be wahala between us, ultimately everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. Good night! 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:00pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
@adisaowala it is laughable that you think "charging forward is the same as being an attacking midfielder. Make we really assess that Viera comment “People compare us but, where I would win more tackles, Paul is more technically gifted than I ever was, and far more at ease on the ball,” said the former World Cup winner. “I’d busy myself with defensive duties, but he is only looking to charge forward. He can be one of the best in the world.” Oga Viera don accord Pogba his due praise and to the bolded, he simply meant that while he was more interested in defending than attack, Pogba will already be looking to charge forward with the ball which is obviously his style of play. See we are now choosing the matches that suits our arguments, here's what Jamie Redknap said about Pogba against Leicester. “Everyone jumps on the bandwagon when Paul Pogba isn’t quite at his best because of his £89m price tag. Against soton Thierry Henry "We can look at his stats but the one I like is 11.2km run from a guy who has been in training only for a week. What I got from talking to him was he couldn't wait. He couldn't wait to go out there. I think that's why Mourinho didn't sub him, he was enjoying it. Tonight I thought he was brilliant. I thought he had a man of the match performance - although obviously Zlatan got it by scoring two goals. Jamie Redknap "There would have been a lot of people tuning in today wondering what all the fuss was about with this guy. The dances, the dabs, the Instagram posts… But he showed he's the real deal today. His overall performance - after a week's training - was incredible. I was so impressed with his all-round game. This is buffon “Just after a few training sessions, we saw how good he was. So much for a luxury player whose only ability is to dab. To the agent/contract negotiations. Again and again, the agent is responsible for negotiating a contract with the club and not the player. The club deals with the agents who can make life difficult for the club if they choose to. Again the player have a say in proceedings but ultimately the thrashing of the deal is between the agents and the club. This is an extract from Sir Alex Ferguson's Autobiography concerning the reason Pogba left United in the first place. "He [Raiola] and I were like oil and water," he writes in the book. "From then on our goose was cooked because Raiola had been able to ingratiate himself with Paul and his family and the player signed with Juventus."This clearly stated that SAF dealt with Raiola and not with Pogba during the attempt to extend his contract. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:32pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:I think ancelotti started playing him in the dmf position during his early days at Milan. Their 2005 champions League final against Liverpool, he was played there with gattuso and seedorf partnering him in midfield. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:06pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
Apparently miki is still recovering from the injury he suffered against city. The club is asking the Armenian national team to leave him in Manchester. Another international break don come, hopefully our main guys no go chop injury because this month of October is tight for us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:59pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
AdisaOwala: This is you telling the world that Pogba was an attacking midfielder in Juventus whereas with the exception of his last season, he was a box to box, this I made clear to you before you started singing the midfield three anthem... 1. Bros - At Juve, Pogba was an attacking Midfielder who was licenced to Roam - his constant showboating & ability to score Spectacular goals are the major factors that contributed to his hype..not his Midfield qualities. I used tactical/positional indiscipline & penchant for showmanship/affinity for stardom as a basis for classification. You can't use tactical and positional indiscipline as the basis for terming Pogba a luxury player when he doesn't lack any of those. He has played in various positions throughout his career and has followed the instructions of coaches to the later so I can't for the life of me get the "he's a luxury player" angle of your argument since you have incorrectly used the term in this situation. Clearly with the bolded, you have a personal problem with the player, whatever that is, I have no fricking clue. If this is your own understanding of this quote... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the contrary, I made a reference to your original post about his salary... 2. As regards his transfer fee, it's easy for you to shift the blame away from the lad But you conveniently left out the fact that he is one of the highest paid Footballers in the world today - abi that one na Juve Fault too? In which I answered you with the "what does the salary have to do with the player?" which I ended with the agent and the club negotiates the players contract that brought about the last piece of our argument. I will get to that soon. Now @ the bold, especially towards the end, you made it seem like Pogba asked for his huge salary and if not given, he won't have come. Since according to you, I have deflected the huge transfer price on his head, what about his salary then? Abi na Juventus still increase his salary, this you said. And this brought up the agent negotiations. I reiterate - an agent cannot negotiate anything without the full blessings of the player. If the player is at odds with the contractual terms the agent has in mind, he has every right to decline and even fire him if need be. Nobody is talking about player/agent relationship here, the player cannot negotiate his salary with the club rather the agent is responsible for that, this I have been saying since the onset of this argument. The player of course will have a say in the matter but the contract negotiations are ultimately done by the club and the agent. EOD!. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 2:52pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:I don't think you get the term "luxury player" well enough. Luxury players are players that don't help the team when needed, instead they believe that their talents are enough to keep them in the team. James Rodriguez is seen as a luxury player because he hardly helps his team when defending even when required to, he's not tactically disciplined and is often dragged out of position because of his I don't care attitude. The same can't be said of Pogba, who throughout the years have shown the whole world that he can help the team defend and build attacks from the midfield, even score a couple of goals. He has always played wherever his coach wants him to play without complaints, he shows the zeal and desire to play football and is always trying to push the team forward at any given time. You can't honestly come here and tag Pogba a luxury player simply because you are angry that we spent £89m on him, because I can see that you are fixated on his transfer fee and salary. Paul pogba is now a manutd player whether you accept it or not, my defense of him has nothing to do with him being my favorite player. Nobody said that the player negotiates transfers directly with clubs. The agent is the intermediary between club and player - Nobody is disputing that.but you made us believe that Pogba asked for €300,000 and the club handed it over to him just like that. The agent is responsible for talking to the club and negotiating, of course the player will have a say in the matter but it ultimately rests on the bargaining powers of the agent. In Pogba's situation, it was a cry for help which usually involves a lot of mulla. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 2:27pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:As far back as you knew him when? As far back as you knew him can be 2012 or 2014 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 1:01pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:so you don finally gree say he wasn't an attacking midfielder in Juventus until his final year at Juve. He wasn't a luxury player at Juventus, he was pivotal to success of that Juventus team, I no know if you get personal problem with Pogba or not but don't come here and bullshit him. This is hilarious...The agent is responsible for negotiating the salaries of players as their own share de always dey the money. You think Pogba will just ask for €300,000 per week by himself?. The club will present the contract and the available fees involved then the agent negotiates the contract. Why do you think that some players are making less than other players despite being in a club longer than the other players and possibly playing better? It depends on the bargaining powers of your agent. Clubs offer more money to tempt players to come and in our situation, we had no champions league football so we had to stump up mega bucks to bring Pogba to the club. The agent will now negotiate the contract with the club and then they will reach an agreement with both the player and the agent before a contract is signed. 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 11:30am On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:he's definitely not that type of midfielder. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 11:21am On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:When did pirlo start influencing games? Is not when ancelotti decided to play him as a deep lying playmaker in Milan. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 11:18am On Oct 03, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:Oga it was only during his final season, after both vidal and pirlo left the club that he was moved forward to an advanced role, the previous years he was a box to box midfielder in the club. He was known to be a pawaful and energetic midfielder with skills and stamina, the goals were an added bonus, no be Pogba football pundits been the compare to Viera?. His salary has nothing to do with the player, abi no be agent and club dey negotiate contract again? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 11:00am On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:You can't wake up and expect Pogba to dominate midfield like Zidane and moreover Zidane was an attacking midfield. I think that we should at least give Pogba time to settle down and assess him in January, we have seen how he can play when he's in the mood, the Leicester match comes to mind, we just need to see if Herrera will be able to complement him well enough as matches come thick and fast. Various people argue that he's better off when given the free role in midfield, while others argue that box to box is his happy hunting ground, it all depends on the system the gaffer plays and how he thinks Pogba will help the team best. Make we get our first eleven first before we dive into full on criticism. Pogba is not in the mold of pirlo, pirlo is a deep lying playmaker just like Carrick. This guys are the choir masters of football and their kind of players are rare to find nowadays in football. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:41am On Oct 03, 2016 |
eph12:If you are comparing players why won't you bring the trophies they won into the discourse? So we should just forget that Pogba won trophies in Juventus because it's Bamidele Alli that is being compared to him. Mesut Ozil, even though he's currently at an uber useless club boasts of a la liga title and a world Cup, he's one of the best passers in the world and of course will walk into any top team in the world. Which one Bamidele Alli get? Last season, Ozil had the highest assist in the league, which one Bamidele Alli get? 1 Like |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:22am On Oct 03, 2016 |
elampiro:But that's the problem, Pogba is not your typical attacking midfielder that is expected to bang in the goals every match day. Everybody de chop goals wey even near goal line, it can happen. Profligacy killed us yesterday. This is the problem I had with his price, it will eventually attract the "a £90m player should be banging in goals left/right and singlehandedly win matches" statement. We are all forgetting that this guy was not responsible for the price tag, rather it was Juventus that wanted that amount of money for him. When Pogba was in Juventus, nobody was talking about his goals but rather his midfield abilities were brought up whenever he was mentioned but now that he's in manutd, everybody expects him to score hattricks every match day even if na defense he play. To dominate like how Ferguson did is not something that will be achieved easily by any coach. Sure we need match winners but we need a system first, Jose is trying to play a different brand of football to the one that he's known for and I expect it will take a bit of time before these players adjust well enough for it. We were very unlucky yesterday, we played well but we drew, that's football. |
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