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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 1:49pm On Mar 22, 2015
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 11:21am On Mar 21, 2015
Emusan:


Then why can't you show us where only one profession was mentioned to tithe?...so that you can prove my point wrong.

The tithes instructions were crystal clear, God demanded tithes of the produce of the land and of the increase in one's flock. Any other thing is committing the sin of adding to God's word.
Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 8:30am On Mar 21, 2015
abidemidare:
I want to change the colour of my HONDA EOD 2004 from wine to grey colour, how much is the baking?

Based on our on going promotional offer, we will do it for 55k. Thanx
Religion / Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by PastorKun(m): 8:29am On Mar 21, 2015
foxychev:
Dobt b deceived by thieves!
Deuteronomy 14:22- end.
That is the scripture where tithing was clearly established.
Ur tithe is meant to be brought to a chosen place to be EATEN. If the place is too far to transport ur farm produce, convert it to money and use the money to buy food, drinks, etc. and EAT and DRINK it before the Lord! But d instruction is to invite the levites to partake in the feast, n d levites carry some of d food to the temple for the priests.
Malachi is addressed to d levites, nt d whole people. they failed to take part of d food n wine to d priests in d temple, dats where d "robbing God" came frm.

Today's Pastors are economical with the truth, because they think they are helping God.

GBAM!!!
Phones / Re: Check Out How MTN Tariffs Looked Like In 2001 by PastorKun(m): 8:08am On Mar 21, 2015
luigiajah:



That was really costly

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The tarrifs quoted there are for contract lines and not pay as you go packages. MTN started out charging N50 per minute.

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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 10:58pm On Mar 20, 2015
polarman:
Good day, I joined the party late but i think i am still on time.

I have a Toyota Camry 2004, it is white, i need to do body works on it and change the color to golden brown (i am not so good in colors embarassed angry ). How much does that cost me?

Thank you for your response in advance.

Based on our on going promotional offer, we will do it for 55k. Thanx
Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 10:52pm On Mar 20, 2015
Emusan:


Then why can't you show us where only one profession was mentioned to tithe?...so that you can prove my point wrong.

Stop being deliberately and fraudulently ignorant. All the original tithes instructions in the bible made it crystal Clear that tithe was meant to be from agric produc0e. Leviticus 27:30, deut 14:22-29. Only fraudsters deliberately twist scripture. Are you one?
Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 8:22am On Mar 20, 2015
Emusan:


The way you people reason at times baffles me a lot.

To you I have added to God's word, what if you who claimed that Tithe has been disannulled according to Hebrews 7?

Number 18:27 "Thus ye also shall offer a heave-offering unto Jehovah of all your tithes, which ye receive of the children of Israel; and thereof ye shall give Jehovah's heave-offering to Aaron the priest" ASV

It's now left for you to show us where collection of TITHE is only from selected group of people and let us see who is adding to God's word.

The catch phrase was "irrespective of their profession". your failure to show us from scriptures that israelites that were not farmers were also ex0pected to tithes proves you are adding to the word and you need to repent.

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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 8:17am On Mar 20, 2015
Elsafema:
I have this newly purchase 2004 Acura MDX but I want to change color from green to white before using it how much should I prepare?

Since you are changing the colour, we would do it for 55k based on our ongoing promotional offer. It costs a bit more to do a colour change. Thanx
Religion / Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by PastorKun(m): 8:02am On Mar 20, 2015
jdilight:


All the tithe means everything that can make food abound in the house of God. You go school at all.

How are you a Christian without being a seed of Abraham? You be fraud?

You are the one talking like an illiterate fraudster. All the original instructions given by God to the israelites to tithe made it crystal clear the was to be strictly from their agric produce. Tithes was clearly defined in Leviticus and deuteronomy. The malachi passage you fraudsters enjoy using did not define tithes(leaving room for ambiguity) it was merely a reharsh of earlier clearly defined instructions in the bible and not a fresh instruction so to understand God's tithe well, one needs to go back to the original instruction in Leviticus were it was clearly defined.

What has being the seed of Abraham got to do with the unbiblical tithe charlatans like you are preaching today
Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 7:45am On Mar 20, 2015
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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 3:56pm On Mar 19, 2015
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 3:42pm On Mar 19, 2015
Emusan:


All Israelite are to TITHE not separation of farmer from any group and beside Agriculture is the major occupation in those day.

Kindly quote the scripture that says "All Israelite are to TITHE" irrespective of there occupation. Your failure to do this would confirm that you are committing the grievous sin of adding to God's word.

Revelation 22:18-19King James Version (KJV)

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Religion / Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by PastorKun(m): 12:14pm On Mar 19, 2015
jdilight:


How do "bring ALL THE TITHE into the store house, that they may be FOOD in my house" translate to tithe being food or is ALL THE TITHE as a phase too hard for you to comprehen?

The bible makes it clear that it is tithes of food items it is talking about, it is charlatans that twist it to mean money to enrich their pockets. That aside malachi 3:10 was directed to the children of Israel and NOT Christians.
Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 12:09pm On Mar 19, 2015
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 9:05am On Mar 19, 2015
Emusan:


You're the one who think we preach ONLY monetary tithe but when I was with my Grandma in the village back then as a farmer she Tithe with her farm products which is what she does for a living and do other farmers too. Me I'm not a farmer but now that I work as a civil servant the way to tithe is through the reward for my sweat (salary).

Well I really appreciate you people opinion on this.

Regards.

And you read in your own bible that those that are not farmers should tithe of their own income too Does that not make you guilty of adding to scriptures which is a very serious sin?

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Religion / Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by PastorKun(m): 8:56am On Mar 19, 2015
christemmbassey:
Jesus said, ''let your yes, be yes,.....'' if Joa is a christian at all and d jeffgate was a honest mistake, I expect him to apologise without equivocation AND PAY HIS DEBT OF N500K. Already, the name 'joagbaje' is synonimous with fraud in Nl and is a good example of false prophets/teachers/spirits d bible warned us of. Jn10:10 was talking about such ppl like joa which many think its d devil.

And he obviously just made a lot of money from first fruits so he can't claim he doesn't have the money to pay.

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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 8:52am On Mar 19, 2015
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 2:40pm On Mar 18, 2015
Emusan:


You're very funny, I should follow koolking and go against scriptures.

SMH...

I repeat WHERE WAS TITHE CANCELLED IN THE BIBLE?

I think the onus is on you to show us were christians were instructed to tithe in the bible and explain also why you and your ilk preach tithes of money contrary to God's tithing instruction to the israelites.

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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 2:29pm On Mar 18, 2015
PastorKun:
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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 6:14am On Mar 18, 2015
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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 4:24pm On Mar 17, 2015
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Religion / Re: Joagbaje’s Miracle HIV Healing Claim Debunked by PastorKun(m): 1:04pm On Mar 17, 2015
Gombs:



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I will wait....hope I won't wait for long as I waited and still waiting for the anti-tithe tract. 10 months don't waka... No action, all noise.

Shey you still blogging? Or you retired? If it's the former, don't forget to take your findings there.

Cc;
Pastorkun grin

I see you are now back from the valley of dry bones and can now buy MB having been scammed off your whole January salary by that fraudster you call your pastor. You shd have taken up my offer to send you credit na. tongue

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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 12:49pm On Mar 17, 2015
Koolking:


Methinks your mind is made up as a pro-tithe. We will go on and on without a valid statement from you to support tithing in the new covenant. It was a bit of a relief to note that you consciously conceded that "some things like burn offering was set aside. It will be out of place and rather illogical annulling an order due to its imperfection and uselessness and yet allow only one of the commandments or what you termed as tasks - tithe to continue.

With your argument, was considering how you would explain to a non-Christian Hebrews 7 vs 5, 11-13: “And those descendants of Levites who are priests are commanded by the law to collect one tenth from the people of Israel, that is from their own countrymen even though their countrymen are also descendants of Abraham.”

Let's jump to verses 11-13 : “It was on the basis of the Levitical priesthood that the law was given to the people of Israel. Now, if the work of the Levitical priests had been perfect there would be no need for a different kind of priest to appear, one who is in the priestly order of Melchizedek not of Aaron. For when the priesthood is changed, there also has to be a change in the law. And our Lord of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe of Judah and Moses did not mention his tribe when he spoke of priests.”

The above passage is self-explanatory and it states clearly the relationship between the Levitical priesthood and the law given to the priest. Note the bold statements above. In vs 5, we were told that one of the laws given to the Levi priests was to collect tithe. In vs 12, we were told that when the Levitical order was changed, the law also changed. Vs 13, went on to expunge us in the new covenant from the Leviticus laws of tithing as we belong to the order of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Thanks for your comments. We are learning

Absolutely brilliant submission. The bolded closes all arguments on the matter except one wants to deliberately rebel against scriptures.

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Autos / Re: Respray / repaint And Oven Bake your Vehicles to look brand new[with pictures] by PastorKun(m): 6:09am On Mar 17, 2015
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Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 3:19pm On Mar 16, 2015
Emusan:


Whether Abraham TITHE is voluntary or not is not the point I brought out from that scripture. Remember what I said before you and @koolking quoted my post was UNTIL YOU'RE ALSO ABLE TO SHOW US WHERE JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES CANCELLED TITHES and both of you pointed to Hebrew 7:18 which I went ahead to show you people this particular verse wasn't talking about disannulling of tithe.

@bolded-where did I twist anything on that passage?

So if there is no record of tithe in early Church is not my point here, my point is the statement I made before you people quoted my post.

So I'm still expecting you people to show me where TITHING was cancelled in the Bible.

As i said ealier your interpretation of that passage is twisted cause if you read it in proper context you would have seen that the commandment that was anulled is the commandment to collect tithes. The only commandment that was mentioned in that passage prior to the instruction to anull the commandment was the commandment to tithe mentioned in verse 5. That aside some tithe merchants have argued that it was the Law that was being anulled, my response is that if that's the case tithing was part of the law so that means tithing still stands anulled especially as it was stated as part of the law earlier in the passage. And please stop referring to the illogical argument that Abraham tithed before the law because that just doesn't hold any water as a reason why Christians should tithe today. That type of reasoning is at best manipulative as there is nowhere in scriptures christians are asked to emulate the example of Abraham and if you want to argue this i can list at least five uncomplimentary things said about Abraham in scriptures which you would condemn if a christian should emulate it today. So just don't go there.

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Religion / Re: Understanding The Concept of Tithing by PastorKun(m): 12:47pm On Mar 16, 2015
jdilight:


You just added food to your scripture. If your a Christian, you should know the consequence

Tithes in scripture was food, it is modern day preachers that turned tithes to mean money whilst ignoring the consequences of twisting God's word.
Religion / Re: Reasons Why Tithing Is Irrelevant Under The New Covenant by PastorKun(m): 12:43pm On Mar 16, 2015
Emusan:
What I see as the major point in you people’s post is the emphasis on verse 11, 12 & 18.
@Koolking says I should read from verse 11-18 and @Pastorkun says I should start from verse 5 so that I can understand the FULL CONTEXT of the passage but I will like us to start from verse 1 so that we can both understand the FULL CONTEXT of the passage. In fact I so much love how @koolking interpreted that verse 11 as quoted “begins to draw a contrast between levitical priesthood being imperfect and the need for another priesthood in the pattern or order of Melchizedek and no longer after the order of Aaron.” BUT I disagree with your concluded part “This means that, TITHING which was one of the LAWS governing levitical priesthood was also change.” The reason why I disagree with it is that, TITHING predated the LAW and the laws was ONLY a regulation on who have right to collect TITHE which was later placed at Levi TRIBE.

Now back to the analysis of Hebrew 7:1-18
NOTE: The Bible verse will appear in color

Verse 1-3, was about the attributes of Melchizedek and the blessing he placed upon Abraham before Abraham paid Tithe of all to him: “This Melchizedek was king of the city of Salem and also a priest of God Most High. When Abraham was returning home after winning a great battle against the kings, Melchizedek met him and blessed him. Then Abraham took a tenth of all he had captured in battle and gave it to Melchizedek. The name Melchizedek means “king of justice,” and king of Salem means “king of peace.” There is no record of his father or mother or any of his ancestors—no beginning or end to his life. He remains a priest forever, resembling the Son of God.”

Verse 4, emphasized on how the great Abraham could RECOGNISE the greatness of Melchizedek the unknown priest: “Consider then how great this Melchizedek was. Even Abraham, the great patriarch of Israel, recognized this by giving him a tenth of what he had taken in battle.”

Verse 5, is about how the priesthood was placed in the tribe of Levi who are the descendant of Abraham to collect Tithe NOT that Tithe was established through them: “Now the law of Moses required that the priests, who are descendants of Levi, must collect a tithe from the rest of the people of Israel, who are also descendants of Abraham.”

Verse 6, emphasized on how Melchizedek who had not his ORIGIN in Abraham or his linage could collect TITHE from Abraham himself whom even the linage of PRIESTS who collected tithe was placed: ”But Melchizedek, who was not a descendant of Levi, collected a tenth from Abraham. And Melchizedek placed a blessing upon Abraham, the one who had already received the promises of God.”

Verse 7 -8, point out that, Melchizedek has POWER to bless as he blessed Abraham which means he is far greater than Abraham, and most importantly the Levitical priest are just human as they die and another priest is being raised to continue in collection of TITHE but Melchizedek LIVES forever which means his own collection of tithe continues: “And without question, the person who has the power to give a blessing is greater than the one who is blessed. The priests who collect tithes are men who die, so Melchizedek is greater than they are, because we are told that he lives on.”

Verse 9-10, these verses made it clear that even the CHOSEN Levite priests who collected tithe ALSO paying tithe indirectly to Melchizedek as a result of what Abraham did: “In addition, we might even say that these Levites—the ones who collect the tithe—paid a tithe to Melchizedek when their ancestor Abraham paid a tithe to him. For although Levi wasn’t born yet, the seed from which he came was in Abraham’s body when Melchizedek collected the tithe from him.”

Verse 11, though this verse needs an in-depth attention because without that, verse 12 couldn’t be understood. The main point here is that, the LAWS which is to govern who can collect Tithe, how Tithe should be collected and what to Tithe was based on the PRIESTHOOD of LEVI this is more evident since TITHING predated the govern laws and not that TITHING was established the very day the law was given: “So if the priesthood of Levi, on which the law was based, could have achieved the perfection God intended, why did God need to establish a different priesthood, with a priest in the order of Melchizedek instead of the order of Levi and Aaron?” So here a new priesthood needs to be established in the ORDER of Melchizedek who LIVES forever.

Verse 12, with what we understood from verse 11 above on how the LAW was BASED on the PRIESTHOOD, so since the priesthood must be change; that is, changing from mortal men priests to immortal man priest, the law THAT BASED this PRIESTHOOD on LEVI TRIBE MUST also changes because this new immortal man priest won’t come from the tribe of Levi: [color=brown]“And if the priesthood is changed, the law must also be changed to permit it.”
This is more reinforced in verse 13.

Verse 13-14, since the law had placed PRIESTHOOD on Levi tribe and the new PRIEST who never comes from this tribe MUST replaced the mortal men priests then the law who established the Levitical PRIESTHOOD must also change: “For the priest we are talking about belongs to a different tribe, whose members have never served at the altar as priests. What I mean is, our Lord came from the tribe of Judah, and Moses never mentioned priests coming from that tribe.”

Verse 15, now that a new priest had arrived in the ORDER of Melchizedek.
1) The mortal Levitcal priests always chosen according to the law has been dissolved which means we’re no longer having a priest chosen in the law.

2) And since the new immortal priest in the ORDER of Melchizedek who collected Tithe and lives forever has appeared then TITHING continues: “This change has been made very clear since a different priest, who is like Melchizedek, has appeared.”

Verse 16, shows that Jesus as a new priest wasn’t qualified to be the priest if we should follow the requirement of the law as He did not come from Levi tribe: “Jesus became a priest, not by meeting the physical requirement of belonging to the tribe of Levi, but by the power of a life that cannot be destroyed.”

Verse 17, And the psalmist pointed this out when he prophesied, “You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.”

Verse 18, this is the crucial part. It was the REQUIREMENT of chosen the PRIESTHOOD that was set aside/disannulled not TITHING itself. “Yes, the old requirement about the priesthood was set aside because it was weak and useless.” This requirement must set aside since the NEW priest isn’t going to come from Levi TRIBE.

(Though I need not to read into the word of God here because it was not only REQUIREMENT about the priesthood that was set aside, as we later read from the scriptures that some other things were set aside as well which one also PREDATED the day the office of the priests were established i.e BURNT OFFERRING but according to this verse it is only “the requirement of chosen priest that disannulled” which is the main point the writer wants to bring out by considering the preceding verse 16.)

If you’re not being paying TITHE consider these:
1) The mortal men priests have been change to an immortal man priest in the ORDER of Melchizedek.
2) One of the rites performed by Melchizedek is that he collected TITHE from Abraham even when the Levitical priesthood has not been set up.
3) So TITHING never cancelled according to this chapter rather there's an immortal priest who had replaced the mortal men priest in the ORDER of Melchizedek.


All quotations are from New Living Translation (NLT)

I don't have much time to dissect and point out all your faulty submissions and essigesis but one thing to note is that Abraham's one off voluntary tithe was voluntary, not of his inc0ome and there is no suggestion in sc0riptures that believers should emulate this one off practise albeit on a regular basis. That said if according to your illogical reasoning christians are still meant to tithe based on your twisted interpretation of that passage, how come there is no record of tithing in the early church? How come the apostles never preached or collected tithes?

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