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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nelszx: 2:02pm On Mar 25, 2021
nairalandankrah:
This
But I'd swap sanusi for ebuehi
Uzoho for okoye
Ebuehi isn't a left back, that he was a make shift doesn't make him one. Ola Aina and Ebuehi are contenders for RB.
I still prefer Uzoho as No 1., Okoye still hasn't convinced me yet
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:07pm On Mar 25, 2021
BascoVanVeli:
He could not have stolen Mikel from anybody, FIFA would have banned him if that was the case. Didn't this case go to court with a winner declared? No matter how much u like Sir Alex u have to admit that in this case he was wrong. U work with the agent on ground. U don't make the guy leave his agent just to get a deal.
What is Alex Ferguson being wrong. He had the player two years before Shittu was in the scene. Andersen and Mikel knew long before Shittu.

All of a sudden Shittu had a contract with the same player. Who stole Mikel? It was Shittu.

Andersen and Ferguson had to let go. A player they started nurturing before the U17. Where was Shittu then?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Eizzy003(m): 2:08pm On Mar 25, 2021
BOAT RIDE TO PORTO NOVO: SUPER EAGLE PLAYERS REACT

Traveling by sea, it is what it is, we can’t use that as an excuse. We know what we have to do mentally and that is to win the match. I have never travelled by sea before,” Aribo told The PUNCH.



“I guess we have to be okay with it, I will say its a bit unusual but that’s just how it is. If they change it, it’ll be good if they don’t, we’ll be fine but the most important thing is that we get there in one piece, and win the game,” Balogun added.



“It will be my first time travelling by sea but I don’t really mind. All that matters to me and my teammates is to wear the jersey, represent our country and win the game,” in-form Galatasaray forward Henry Onyekuru said.



Defender William Troost-Ekong said, “As long as it is safe and we get there as quickly as possible, then It is fine.”



Make mature men no burst cry for road ooo grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:10pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Starting against top teams doesn’t mean you will start at the top team ,think before you talk

Mikel class is no where near Essien ,you can disagree with me openly but deep down in you u know say you Dey deceive your self

Brighton and Newcastle top players will always start against mancity and even have a nice game so I guess that makes them walk into Guardiola team
Mikel was playing for a top team and starting against top teams and was a regular for a longer time than Essien.

So he is rated ahead of Essien.

You can say think before you talk but it does not change the fact.

Mikel was a top player for a longer time.

Finito.

Just like Iniesta and Toni Kroos we're top players for a longer time than Ronaldinho. Thus rated higher than him.

Finito.

Deep down, that is the truth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:11pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Mikel was playing for a top team and starting against top teams and was a regular for a longer time than Essien.

So he is rated ahead of Essien.

You can say think before you talk but it does not change the fact.

Mikel was a top player for a longer time.

Finito.

Just like Iniesta and Toni Kroos we're top players for a longer time than Ronaldinho. Thus rated higher than him.

Finito.

Deep down, that is the truth.
Mikel was no where near michael essien level

Mikel rated ahead of essien ? mikel wasnt even starting for a top team at 30, maybe if he had continue in the epl like willian and david luis playing for a top team then we can argue this

You always say rubbish written in BLUE with a little good use of the English language

EOD
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by phamarsenal: 2:12pm On Mar 25, 2021
Samueltemi337:
Nice line up
If only we had a reasonable coach that is not afraid to make bold moves and decisions, dis formation is what suits us right nw, and we strikers who could do well in dis formation...although am skeptical abt aribo ability to do well in a 2- man midfield he plays better in a 3-man midfield..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:15pm On Mar 25, 2021
Eizzy003:
BOAT RIDE TO PORTO NOVO: SUPER EAGLE PLAYERS REACT

Traveling by sea, it is what it is, we can’t use that as an excuse. We know what we have to do mentally and that is to win the match. I have never travelled by sea before,” Aribo told The PUNCH.



“I guess we have to be okay with it, I will say its a bit unusual but that’s just how it is. If they change it, it’ll be good if they don’t, we’ll be fine but the most important thing is that we get there in one piece, and win the game,” Balogun added.



“It will be my first time travelling by sea but I don’t really mind. All that matters to me and my teammates is to wear the jersey, represent our country and win the game,” in-form Galatasaray forward Henry Onyekuru said.



Defender William Troost-Ekong said, “As long as it is safe and we get there as quickly as possible, then It is fine.”



Make mature men no burst cry for road ooo grin grin grin


Sad that the NFF could not source for ferry boats. The one used by LNG Bonny is so comfortable. Safe. Them with some gun boats to guide them.

Wish them safe journey.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:17pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Mikel was no where near michael essien level

Mikel rated ahead of essien ? mikel wasnt even starting for a top team at 30, maybe if he had continue in the epl like willian and david luis playing for a top team then we can argue this

You always say rubbish written in BLUE with a little good use of the English language

EOD
How was Mikel not starting for a top team when under Ancelotti he was even rated among the best passers in the epl. How was he not starting and Mikel started in the Champions League and FA Cup finals?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:20pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Mikel was no where near michael essien level

Mikel rated ahead of essien ? mikel wasnt even starting for a top team at 30, maybe if he had continue in the epl like willian and david luis playing for a top team then we can argue this

You always say rubbish written in BLUE with a little good use of the English language

EOD
I don't know your problem with me but saying that I always say rubbish does not give your point weight.

Mikel was a starter at Chelsea. Sometimes he ended on the bench and sometimes had a regular run.

The two times Guus Hiddink was at Chelsea, Mikel was a regular.

Mikel was a regular under Ancelotti.

Mikel was a regular for Roberto Di Matteo.

Mikel is one of the most played foreign player in the history of Chelsea.

So saying I am typing rubbish does not change the fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:22pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
How was Mikel not starting for a top team when under Ancelotti he was even rated among the best passers in the epl. How was he not starting and Mikel started in the Champions League and FA Cup finals?
I never said he didnt start at a top team sir, i even said he was man of the match against bayern in a champions league final, you think i have anything against mikel ? but at 30 mikel was not playing for a top team and you feel he is better than michael essien with his longevity extended to china and playing at trabzonspor

Same me here have argued with someone who said he isnt world class, but saying he was on a higher level than michael essien is pure nonsense

A finish michael essien at 32 which is not his real age (dude removed nothing less than 8 years from his real age) but he still got to play for real madrid and ac millan, but same cant be said of mikel
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:25pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Mikel was no where near michael essien level

Mikel rated ahead of essien ? mikel wasnt even starting for a top team at 30, maybe if he had continue in the epl like willian and david luis playing for a top team then we can argue this

You always say rubbish written in BLUE with a little good use of the English language

EOD
https://lastwordonsports.com/football/2020/05/18/the-legend-of-john-obi-mikel-chelseas-most-underrated-midfielder/amp/

See the word there? A permanent name.

He was a regular. Being on the bench sometimes is natural when your time at a club span a decade.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:27pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
I never said he didnt start at a top team sir, i even said he was man of the match against bayern in a champions league final, you think i have anything against mikel ? but at 30 mikel was not playing for a top team and you feel he is better than michael essien with his longevity extended to china and playing at trabzonspor

Same me here have argued with someone who said he isnt world class, but saying he was on a higher level than michael essien is pure nonsense

A finish michael essien at 32 which is not his real age (dude removed nothing less than 8 years from his real age) but he still got to play for real madrid and ac millan, but same cant be said of mikel
At the time Essien was at AC Milan, they were not at the top of European Football. After Mourinho left, he was not a regular at Real Madrid.

Mikel was consistent at the top scene with Chelsea when they had a trophy haul.

So what is the problem?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:30pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
I never said he didnt start at a top team sir, i even said he was man of the match against bayern in a champions league final, you think i have anything against mikel ? but at 30 mikel was not playing for a top team and you feel he is better than michael essien with his longevity extended to china and playing at trabzonspor

Same me here have argued with someone who said he isnt world class, but saying he was on a higher level than michael essien is pure nonsense

A finish michael essien at 32 which is not his real age (dude removed nothing less than 8 years from his real age) but he still got to play for real madrid and ac millan, but same cant be said of mikel
Mikel does not need to be a journey man to get the rating. It is longevity at the top.

So typing someone is saying rubbish does not change the fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:30pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Singing manucho from Angola league surprise me sha make I no lie
Because there was something they saw about him and in him. One of the greatest in Portugal, Eusebio was taken from Mozambique and the rest is history. Same with our Finidi from Sharks to Ajax.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Olulong(m): 2:31pm On Mar 25, 2021
phamarsenal:
If only we had a reasonable coach that is not afraid to make bold moves and decisions, dis formation is what suits us right nw, and we strikers who could do well in dis formation...although am skeptical abt aribo ability to do well in a 2- man midfield he plays better in a 3-man midfield..


Exactly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:31pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Mikel does not need to be a journey man to get the rating. It is longevity at the top.

So typing someone is saying rubbish does not change the fact.
What is the longevity at the top when he was out of the top at 29?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:33pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Mikel having or not having a problem with it is not the point. Mikel made a professional sacrifice but the World of football had a huge loss in that sacrifice too.

Until today we are yet to see a midfielder with such Grace and the destruction was huge.

Chelsea did not need him. Mourinho just wanted to destroy the union with Alex Ferguson, hoping to gain an edge. His selfishness destroyed a big impact in football.
If they did not need him how come he played so much? Even under Mou when it was easier to loan him out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:33pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
At the time Essien was at AC Milan, they were not at the top of European Football. After Mourinho left, he was not a regular at Real Madrid.

Mikel was consistent at the top scene with Chelsea when they had a trophy haul.

So what is the problem?
After mourinho he was no longer regular at madrid , thats a silly excuse as if mikel was regular at 29/30 when conte was at chelsea

He played at madrid when he was 32 and you cant change that , mikel wont make that madrid team even as a CB
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:34pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
What is the longevity at the top when he was out of the top at 29?
His career was over a decade at the top.

His career at Chelsea was a high career. career was long and glamorous.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:35pm On Mar 25, 2021
edi287:
Yep. Plus I think Mou wanted to make him a 2 way midfielder...same with Pogba. But Mikel never had the stamina to play that kind of role.
When you have a talent like that - you adjust.
Mikel would have faded out of the game pretty early or end up playing midtable teams/relegation battlers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:36pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
After mourinho he was no longer regular at madrid , thats a silly excuse as if mikel was regular at 29/30 when conte was at chelsea

He played at madrid when he was 32 and you cant change that , mikel wont make that madrid team even as a CB
Playing at Real Madrid is not the point but Longevity. Essien did not have a long career at Real Madrid.

He had a good career. He is a top player but Mikel had a longer career at the top.

The point is simple
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:36pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
I don't know your problem with me but saying that I always say rubbish does not give your point weight.

Mikel was a starter at Chelsea. Sometimes he ended on the bench and sometimes had a regular run.

The two times Guus Hiddink was at Chelsea, Mikel was a regular.

Mikel was a regular under Ancelotti.

Mikel was a regular for Roberto Di Matteo.

Mikel is one of the most played foreign player in the history of Chelsea.

So saying I am typing rubbish does not change the fact.
I didnt say mikel wasnt regular at chelsea or not a good player , my point is that he isnt michael essien level

He stayed for chelsea at 10 seasons so he should be their most played foreign player, some players beat that achievement below 10 seasons
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:37pm On Mar 25, 2021
jihday:
Mikel would have faded out of the game pretty early or end up playing midtable teams/relegation battlers
Not true. Carrick had a brilliant career. It is the role of play. Mikel would have had a long wonderful career if he was utilised the right way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2021
[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=100202115]Playing at Real Madrid is not the point but Longevity. Essien did not have a long career at Real Madrid.

He had a good career. He is a top player but Mikel had a longer career at the top.

The point is simple
[/quote

Longevity is not the point but quality
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zoboizee: 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2021
nelszx:
Ebuehi isn't a left back, that he was a make shift doesn't make him one. Ola Aina and Ebuehi are contenders for RB.
I still prefer Uzoho as No 1., Okoye still hasn't convinced me yet
I equally believes Uzoho is better than Okoye. Funny how some people think Okoye should be our number one goalie. The guy to me is poor at crossing or aerial ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:38pm On Mar 25, 2021
andrewbaba44:
I didnt say mikel wasnt regular at chelsea or not a good player , my point is that he isnt michael essien level

He stayed for chelsea at 10 seasons so he should be their most played foreign player, some players beat that achievement below 10 seasons
We are not talking about some players.

I said Mikel had a long career at the top. So rated ahead of Essien. The point is too simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 2:39pm On Mar 25, 2021
12large1:
You guys are seriously delusional saying Chelsea destroyed Mikel. Yes, mikel started his football as a CAM before signing for Chelsea and was utilized as a CDM initially and eventually. But please did Chelsea sign mikel on a lifetime contract? No. Mikel could had left the club even after 1 season if he felt unjustified at his position so please cut that crap. There are no guarantees that he would even had succeeded at man utd. A player that has 2 epl
4 fa cups
2 europa leagues
1 CL
2 carling cup

For Chelsea and even played in almost all finals is described as "failed"
You sabi, Ferguson could have loaned him or sell him to a dead British club, do they think he'll make Mikel the creative hub of the team? That is the height of being delusional
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:40pm On Mar 25, 2021
[quote author=andrewbaba44 post=100202163][/quote]Longevity at the top is the point. You can not have a long career at the top if you don't have quality.

That is why I used Kroos and Iniesta to buttress the point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:41pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
His career was over a decade at the top.

His career at Chelsea was a high career. career was long and glamorous.
Michael essien played 9 season at chelsea 1 at madrid and 1 at milan, i guess thats not longevity compared to mikel 11 seasons with essien winning same trophies as mikel

Should i also tell you on how essien was so important to Lyon winning the ligue 1 twice and also winning the ligue 1 player of the year ?

What about chelsea player of the season ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:43pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Longevity at the top is the point. You can not have a long career at the top if you don't have quality.

That is why I used Kroos and Iniesta to buttress the point.
Lol essien even had more longevity than mikel self

You are just making a case out of nothing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:43pm On Mar 25, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
We are not talking about some players.

I said Mikel had a long career at the top. So rated ahead of Essien. The point is too simple.
Mikel was never rated ahead of essien and will never be

Even our local bias complete sport and co will never rate mikel ahead of essien grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:44pm On Mar 25, 2021
jihday:
You sabi, Ferguson could have loaned him or sell him to a dead British club, do they think he'll make Mikel the creative hub of the team? That is the height of being delusional
Ferguson would have not. He flew to Norway three times to convince Mikel to turn down Chelsea. I watched two of them on MUTV.

He wanted and had a plan for Mikel. He would not have sold him.

I am telling you how desperate Ferguson wanted Mikel and his belief in him. You are just guessing and writing people are delusional without a reason to back it up.

He even nicknamed Mikel- Obi Wan.
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