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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 11:45pm On Mar 24, 2021
#OleOUT
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 11:47pm On Mar 24, 2021
nani667:
#OleOUT
Reverse is the case. They're planning to offer him a new contract if recent reports are to be believed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 12:19am On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
So what was Rio's job on the field when Vidic is to mark Xavi and also mark Messi
Vidic's job is to prevent xavi from having all the time in the world to put in a perfect cross in the box .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 6:32am On Mar 25, 2021
Who is in the mud cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 8:23am On Mar 25, 2021
Too early for new comers into the mud na.

Cc nitrogen cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:31am On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
Well,if you ask me they both compliment each other but iniesta was more indispensable and was more important to that side than any other player. Deco could easily have slotted into xavi's role but no one could have been able to replace iniesta.Tiki taka left Barcelona the moment pep guardiola left and not when xavi retired.
Ok Chief....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 11:24am On Mar 25, 2021
Expert17:
I am suspecting it to be Trebor
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cheesy
It's definitely Trevor nau
Very obvious something
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 11:36am On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
No team in this world would have won the UCL against that great barca side oga ade. grin
There is nothing so Extraordinary about that Ojoro Barca that Pep had

The 2 UCLs Pep won na with ojoro and the world is very aware of this.

2009 UCL....robbery against Chelsea in the SF and 4 clear penalties were denied on that night

2011 UCL ....Robbery again Real Madrid in SF and pepe was sent off


I don't even want to start talking about the famous Whistle that RVP did not hear that night that got him sent off

Guardiola Used ojoro to win the 2 UCLs he got.

The only team that could have beaten the so-called great Barca side was Chelsea. They had all the locks to Pep's Barca but Ojoro did it for Pep.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Sniper4real(m): 11:41am On Mar 25, 2021
Why are we even blaming Rio for the goal. The full back that saw messi sud av closed him down. Rio no get eyes for back naw
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 11:55am On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
You can mention him doesnt mean he is one of the top 5 performers in a team of 11.

Just like you will mention Man utd of 2008, mention Wes Brown but know the impact of Ronaldo is not the same as Brown
Ooh...so, Firmino is not even among the Top 5 performers in Klopp's Liverpool?

I just learnt something new today shocked

You're obviously deceived by Bobby's goal input and that's understandable.

I say again... you can never call Jurgen Klopp's famous Liverpool without calling Firmino first angry angry


Bobby is the unsung hero in Klopp's Liverpool team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:46pm On Mar 25, 2021
Afrodoc2 have you heard about NickyButt’s resignation ? Reports allege it’s friction with Murtough but things may not be so.

I know you don’t like his approach to football tho.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 1:48pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
So what was Rio's job on the field when Vidic is to mark Xavi and also mark Messi
Vidic wasn't asked to come and be looking like lucozade on the pitch.For him to have allowed xavi settled on the ball to put in a perfect ball inside the area then he is culpable for messi's goal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 2:04pm On Mar 25, 2021
If he choke you then die cheesy cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:10pm On Mar 25, 2021
LostMyZeal:
Ooh...so, Firmino is not even among the Top 5 performers in Klopp's Liverpool?

I just learnt something new today shocked

You're obviously deceived by Bobby's goal input and that's understandable.

I say again... you can never call Jurgen Klopp's famous Liverpool without calling Firmino first angry angry


Bobby is the unsung hero in Klopp's Liverpool team.
Even Klopp will pluck his eyes for spewing such blasphemy with confidence.

No Liverpool fan will see firmino and claim he's a carry along in that their UCL and EPL winning campaigns
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:18pm On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
Vidic wasn't asked to come and be looking like lucozade on the pitch.For him to have allowed xavi settled on the ball to put in a perfect ball inside the area then he is culpable for messi's goal.
Xavi released the ball before getting to Vidic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 2:19pm On Mar 25, 2021
TrebleChamp:
Ok Chief....
Pls watch till the end


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-xfcSloHUg
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:20pm On Mar 25, 2021
Jodera:
Even Klopp will pluck his eyes for spewing such blasphemy with confidence.

No Liverpool fan will see firmino and claim he's a carry along in that their UCL and EPL winning campaigns
Salah Mane Robertson Henderson Allison VVD Trent are all more important to Liverpool than Firmino
That is why Klopp has to defend Firmino all the time, How many times does he have to defend Salah?
Salahs work speaks for him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Mar 25, 2021
Sniper4real:
Why are we even blaming Rio for the goal. The full back that saw messi sud av closed him down. Rio no get eyes for back naw
The full back was focused on his man, and Messi was for Rio

No one in the entire world will leave Rio and blame the full back, Rio himself admitted he was at fault but revisionists are looking under the table for who to share the blame with a useless defender who went sleeping on the field
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:22pm On Mar 25, 2021
Leyqute:
Afrodoc2 have you heard about NickyButt’s resignation ? Reports allege it’s friction with Murtough but things may not be so.

I know you don’t like his approach to football tho.
Yeah I heard about it. There just weren’t enough duties to go around. The appointment of Football Director and Technical Director made his job as head of first team development fairly redundant anyway.

P.S I have nothing against Butt.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 2:26pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Xavi released the ball before getting to Vidic
Because he vidic wasn't making any attempt to get close.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:29pm On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
Because he vidic wasn't making any attempt to get close.
Xavi released the ball before getting to Vidic, while Rio the giant lost a header to a 5ft 7 player
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 2:35pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Xavi released the ball before getting to Vidic, while Rio the giant lost a header to a 5ft 7 player
why did vidic not run close to xavi,a little pressure from vidic would have stopped that perfect cross.vidic wasn't paid to come and admire xavi's boot .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:48pm On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
why did vidic not run close to xavi,a little pressure from vidic would have stopped that perfect cross.vidic wasn't paid to come and admire xavi's boot .
Vidic was protecting his box and ensuring that Xavi did not come in. Rio doing his job and marking Messi, we would never have that goal. That shameful goal when a 5ft7 player scores a header while a giant like Rio opens his mouth

Messi even said it, he did not have a marker? why was Messi free in the box and having a free header? Because Rio was sleeping in the box in a CL final like Thiago Silva

Messi will later realize why Pep told him to attack Rio, Because Rio was useless who sleeps during games and only attaching to Vidic, Isolate Rio and he capitulates

Its a different thing if he dribbled Rio or if Rio contested the header and lost but he didnt even leave the ground.

Sleeping in a CL final

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:56pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Salah Mane Robertson Henderson Allison VVD Trent are all more important to Liverpool than Firmino
That is why Klopp has to defend Firmino all the time, How many times does he have to defend Salah?
Salahs work speaks for him
All the time?
Aside this season, I don't see klopp defending firmino.
Klopp never defended him during their champions league run, and he never defended him during their EPL winning campaign.

Henderson more important than firmino?
I laugh grin

Also, while I'll agree that vvd, salah et all(aside Henderson) are very important in their positions to Liverpool success, so also is firmino too, to Liverpool success.
Henderson can easily be replaced, but not those others can.

Na only person wey dey watch ball through stats will say firmino wasn't instrumental in both of their winning campaigns
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:57pm On Mar 25, 2021
Jodera:
All the time?
Aside this season, I don't see klopp defending firmino.
Klopp never defended him during their champions league run, and he never defended him during their EPL winning campaign.

Henderson more important than firmino?
I laugh grin

Also, while I'll agree that vvd, salah et all(aside Henderson) are very important in their positions to Liverpool success, so also is firmino too, to Liverpool success.
Henderson can easily be replaced, but not those others can.

Na only person wey dey watch ball through stats will say firmino wasn't instrumental in both of their winning campaigns
What was Firminos uselesfulness.

In their front 3 rate them on their importance to the team
Many Liverpool fans were hoping Jota will replace Frmino for good

If you are doing something good, there will be a stat to measure it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 3:05pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
What was Firminos uselesfulness.

In their front 3 rate them on their importance to the team
Many Liverpool fans were hoping Jota will replace Frmino for good

If you are doing something good, there will be a stat to measure it
of course, the bolded is understandable.
Firmino dropped form after the restart of league post covid, and he carried his bad form into this season. Jota came in and immediately shone, so it's very understandable for fans urging firmino to be relegated to the bench.

But we're talking about his contribution to their winning campaigns (EPL and UCL). He was very very instrumental to both alongside salah and mane
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by popizaino(m): 3:06pm On Mar 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Vidic was protecting his box and ensuring that Xavi did not come in. Rio doing his job and marking Messi, we would never have that goal. That shameful goal when a 5ft7 player scores a header while a giant like Rio opens his mouth

Messi even said it, he did not have a marker? why was Messi free in the box and having a free header? Because Rio was sleeping in the box in a CL final like Thiago Silva

Messi will later realize why Pep told him to attack Rio, Because Rio was useless who sleeps during games and only attaching to Vidic, Isolate Rio and he capitulates

Its a different thing if he dribbled Rio or if Rio contested the header and lost but he didnt even leave the ground.

Sleeping in a CL final
The same way he was protecting the box is the same way every other defenders were protecting the box,and the fact that he wasnt in the same box you claim he was protecting at that particular instance leaves much to be desired,if he wasn't there to admire xavi's boot he could have been right inside the box,just some inches away from Rio and could have done more to head the ball away .Both thiago silva and Ferdinand didnt leave their position in the box to go and hold village meeting on the edge of the area.Don't try too hard vidic was culpable for that goal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LostMyZeal(m): 3:17pm On Mar 25, 2021
Jodera:
Even Klopp will pluck his eyes for spewing such blasphemy with confidence.

No Liverpool fan will see firmino and claim he's a carry along in that their UCL and EPL winning campaigns
Azin ehh... maybe the ram is on a cruise sha grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 3:44pm On Mar 25, 2021
LostMyZeal:
Azin ehh... maybe the ram is on a cruise sha grin
Lol... Na real cruise him wan catch
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:45pm On Mar 25, 2021
Jodera:
of course, the bolded is understandable.
Firmino dropped form after the restart of league post covid, and he carried his bad form into this season. Jota came in and immediately shone, so it's very understandable for fans urging firmino to be relegated to the bench.

But we're talking about his contribution to their winning campaigns (EPL and UCL). He was very very instrumental to both alongside salah and mane
Salah contributes goals in big numbers, Mane contributes goals in numbers, What does Firmino contribute aside vibes?

In the game vs Atletico in March 2020, I heard the commentator say Firmino has not scored in Anfield for almost 12months. That is someone you call a striker
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 3:49pm On Mar 25, 2021
popizaino:
The same way he was protecting the box is the same way every other defenders were protecting the box,and the fact that he wasnt in the same box you claim he was protecting at that particular instance leaves much to be desired,if he wasn't there to admire xavi's boot he could have been right inside the box,just some inches away from Rio and could have done more to head the ball away .Both thiago silva and Ferdinand didnt leave their position in the box to go and hold village meeting on the edge of the area.Don't try too hard vidic was culpable for that goal.
Ferdinand already admitted that he was culpable, Messi already pointed that Ferdinand gawked himself

Quote anyone who blamed Vidic for the goal
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:56pm On Mar 25, 2021
Bombblacks:
All these are excuses. Their away record was terrible in the champions league and all their champions league trophy won during that period were controversial. The MSN Barca of 2014 that won the Treble was even better than those boring Barca sides yet no one is calling them the greatest side of all time. It's just nostalgic covering them.
Terrible away record & they almost won 3 back to back in the era when defending a champions league trophy was almost impossible.

It’s almost as if having poor away record affects nothing in CL. Just outscore your opponents in aggregate and you are good to go.
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