₦airaland Forum

igbesachick:
china is the only country in the world, today , that uses a non-alphabatic language.

and see the person I was arguing with. Tell us what script Arabic in Hindi is written in. Chai.

bkool7:
What he wore there is an African attire worn for certain purposes and situation. That's a Zulu attire worn to war.
So what message is he sending to other shoppers?

He even came with an arrow!
That's obviously a weapon

But the article says nothing related to Zulu, why tell obvious lie

selemempe:
read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day

japan has helped the last emporer of china, Puyi, to his throne again, with a puppet government in northeast china. is that a colony ? like nigeria protectorate and canada colony under direct viceroys from UK and ruled by the laws transplanted from UK and being taxed and exploited by UK ?

france has "rent" west Canton province islands , germany has "rent" Qingdao, russia has "rent" Lvshun port, UK "rent" HK, portugal rent Macau. so, china was the biggest loser colonized by dozens of countries ?

well, that is exactly the communist party wants chinese to believe and writes it down in china textbooks, victimizing itself and thus justifying its expansionism today

blueAgent:
You dey mind the idiots, they go they claim anti- western yet they use iPhone of 800k hypocrites.

What does technology has to do with western culture?

Misguided illiterate everywhere

selemempe:
and see the person I was arguing with. Tell us what script Arabic in Hindi is written in. Chai.

what ? i reason with him , but that does not mean, i agree with you for your opinions on OTHER topics

igbesachick:
japan has helped the last emporer of china, Puyi, to his throne again, with a puppet government in northeast china. is that a colony ? like nigeria protectorate and canada colony under direct viceroys from UK and ruled by the laws transplanted from UK and being taxed and exploited by UK ?

france has "rent" west Canton province islands , germany has "rent" Qingdao, russian has "rent" Lvshun port, UK "rent" HK, portugal rent Macau. so, china was the biggest loser colonized by dozens of countries ?

well, that is exactly the communist party wants chinese to believe and write it down in china textbooks, victimizing itself and thus justifying its expansionism today

your arguments are neither here no there. We are talking about western ideas which EVERY SINGLE developed country today has imbibed. Because the modern world belongs to the west.

Issues of who lost and who won during colonization and what china foreign policy today is should be discussed elsewhere. Keep it simple please

selemempe:
read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day

without communist party distracting the ruling national party, china would DEFEAT japan in WW2 and be rich as HK and taiwan which been ruled by national party till recently. japan chose a good time to invade china. that is all . and china has never been a buddhism country. china has no religion in sense of what the West call religion.

igbesachick:
what ? i reason with him , but that does not mean, i agree with you for your opinions on OTHER topics

you don't need to agree with my opinion but mention one developed country today that is not based on western ideas. Cuisine, Language and religion are out of it.

The west doesn't share same language and neither are they all Christians nor eat the same food. The west is tending towards atheism today....many speak Asian languages and food is now creole

We are talking of dressing (not suit o, modern dresses)
System of education
System of government
System of standardisation
Ending many cultural practices etc

selemempe:
read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day

japan westernization my foot ! japan 's ruling party has ruled from 1946 till now , except for 3 years with amother party. what a communist dictatorship country ! it is longer time being one-partied than china , 4 years longer than what the West hatefully call chinese communist ruling.

japan is just a Confucius country with strict social order ( age, gender weigh more than abilities). and japanese are proud of NOT speaking english. they even deliberately slur and lisp when speaking english and make it sound funny.

selemempe:
read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day

china never will be assimilated into the "modern" world, if that is the West style . chinese always say "learn the foreign devils' skills and use them on the devils" and "learn the skin and furs of the foreign devils, but remain the blood and bones of china". japan has already reached what china aspires. japanese wear kimonos in metros and use wood chopsticks to eat 500 dollar sushi in traditional huts with subtle modern technology embedded everywhere in the room unnoticed.

china and japan only pick up the utility points of west things. as to west culture , both of them repulse and scorn.

today's chinese students in Usa learn medicine and physics. nobody will learn politics and literature.

selemempe:
your arguments are neither here no there. We are talking about western ideas which EVERY SINGLE developed country today has imbibed. Because the modern world belongs to the west.

Issues of who lost and who won during colonization and what china foreign policy today is should be discussed elsewhere. Keep it simple please

west ideas ? even north korea loves america technologies. but not sure the appeal of america food, music....or political system.

igbesachick:
china never will be assimilated into the "modern" world, if that is the West style . chinese always say "learn the foreign devils' skills and use them on the devils" and "learn the skin and furs of the foreign devils, but remain the blood and bones of china". japan has already reached what china aspires. japanese wear kimonos in metros and use wood chopsticks to eat 500 dollar sushi in traditional huts with subtle modern technology embedded everywhere in the room unnoticed.

china and japan only pick up the utility points of west things. as to west culture , both of them repulse and scorn.

today's chinese students in Usa learn medicine and physics. nobody will learn politics and literature.

I see how they repulse and scorn west. This is everyday life in Japan. Where are the huts. Where are the kimonos and agbada? My guy I dey work abeg. I think by now we can agree that you should practice what you preach and truly do away with the western influence in your life

Lagoon0:
What does technology has to do with western culture?

Misguided illiterate everywhere

some argue, without academic freedom , as a culture of a bigger West freedom culture, technologies can not thrive in a country . this is the biggest problem for china.

Lagoon0:
What does technology has to do with western culture?
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Misguided illiterate everywhere qq

some argue, without academic freedom , as a culture of a bigger West freedom culture, technologies can not thrive in a country . this is the biggest problem for china.

selemempe:
I see how they repulse and scorn west. This is everyday life in Japan. Where are the huts. Where are the kimonos and agbada? My guy I dey work abeg. I think by now we can agree that you should practice what you preach and truly do away with the western influence in your life

Civilization is allowed but not meant to be forced on people. You choose what to copy and what not to.

Are you still eating fufu and ofaku and you claim you're civilized ?

Your also an hypocrite

Lagoon0:
What does technology has to do with western culture?

Misguided illiterate everywhere

Clown. Comprehension is even a bigger problem for you.

igbesachick:
some argue, without academic freedom , as a culture of a bigger West freedom culture, technologies can not thrive in a country . this is the biggest problem for china.

Elaborate more on this

gaventa:
So you mean the concept of having a mall is not AFrican?? This shows your level of mental enslavement and inferiority complexity. Pre colonial Africa was known for trade and our markets had organized ways of carrying our trade. Go and read about Ancient Kemer market structure before you come here to showcase your naivety and shallow mindedness. White man slave.

You are a fool if you don't know the difference between a Mall and a market.

hermesprogidy:
Stick to the romance section, this thread is way above your league. PS, This is my last reply to you.

Is that your smart way of not answering my question?

Patriotism Can make us fly?
Clown.

blueAgent:
Clown. Comprehension is even a bigger problem for you.

Is that your reason for bringing iPhone to this issue?

Lol, I've seen your funny stand

hermesprogidy:
People wear bikini to Walmart. You need some exposure. Better still check Youtube.

Clown , Your reference no go pass youtube.

karkel:
I don't much to say to you..... Imp

Because you have nothing of value to say.

Lagoon0:
Civilization is allowed but not meant to be forced on people. You choose what to copy and what not to.

Are you still eating fufu and ofaku and you claim you're civilized ?

Your also an hypocrite

food is good. You eat the food abundant to your area. Shelter and clothing and based on technology. If you don't live in a 21st century shelter or wear a 21st century clothe then you are not civilized. The three of them are basic needs.

Other needs include education and use of modern technology.

The man in this picture is not civilized because he is not using a modern dress based on technology. Our ancestors never had that luxury

selemempe:
you don't need to agree
syystem of education
System of government
System of standardisation
Ending many cultural practices etc

1, USA , with well appointed social insurance and health care system and human rights protection workers' unuion , etc, is a socialist country. china is not. china is a brutal capitalist country.

2, singapore is a typical dictatorship country, now is the son's tenure after his father's 35 years' rule.

3, japan is a confucius country with pseudo democracy with 1 party ruling for 73 years till now.

4, oil rich arabic countries , not democratic at all.

5, india, with a fake democracy , rot in caste system, women rapings, religion strifes, awful hygienity....

6, russia, a pariah country, with a congress and parliament and a king size president and a fvcked up economy.

7, china, non-democratic.

in another word, all but west countries fail at attempt to democracy or succeed at being non-democratic. and even the west countries are not as democratic as they purport to be.

i dont even know how to argue with you. i dont even agree with your basic premises "either west or not".

selemempe:
food is good. You eat the food abundant to your area. Shelter and clothing and based on technology. If you don't live in a 21st century shelter or wear a 21st century clothe then you are not civilized. The three of them are basic needs.

Other needs include education and use of modern technology.

The man in this picture is not civilized because he is not using a modern dress based on technology. Our ancestors never had that luxury

Don't say that again our ancestors wore ashoke in Yoruba land. Asho oke is still regarded as high class dress till date. We wear our native attired to important event even in sch during defense.

Alot of student put on Ankara and lase . if your native dressing expose more of your body add something to spice the design instead of total condemnation

selemempe:
I see how they repulse and scorn west. This is everyday life in Japan. Where are the huts. Where are the kimonos and agbada? My guy I dey work abeg. I think by now we can agree that you should practice what you preach and truly do away with the western influence in your life

wearing suits does not mean "modernization" or "westernization".

it is just like english. we can speak any language as an international one. but we need one, and english is convenient, out of historic reasons, so, we pick english. but not because english is modern and westernized and civilized !

so to the clothes !

japanese do wear kimono, at higher occassions than going to office to work menial jobs. they wear when treating friends , etc.

Lagoon0:
Elaborate more on this

without freedom, how come new ideas ? how come technologies ? we can not even debate like this, how can the truth come out and the society be enlightened ? so,the culture of freedom is the essence of the technologies . but most west countries today are less free than china. you can not judge by democracy or not.

and, we can do away with technologies for a while.

i mean, to send a a bunch of humans to the moon with most advanced technologies of today but deactivate their abilities to reason , and another bunch to the Mars with no technologies but free thinking culture. after 200 years, the latter wins.

that is why a clothes or a computer matters nothing. we need the essence. and that is universal, i dont think only the west ppl can do the free thinking.

Lagoon0:
Don't say that again our ancestors wore ashoke in Yoruba land. Asho oke is still regarded as high class dress till date. We wear our native attired to important event even in sch during defense.

Alot of student put on Ankara and lase . if your native dressing expose more of your body add something to spice the design instead of total condemnation

go back to the first page and check if the man was fully clothed. Yorubas may have clothed more and can develop modern dressing ideas from their ancestors. This man's ancestors didn't

igbesachick:
wearing suits does not mean "modernization" or "westernization".

it is just like english. we can speak any language as an international one. but we need one, and english is convenient, out of historic reasons, so, we pick english. but not because english is modern and westernized and civilized !

so to the clothes !

japanese do wear kimono, at higher occassions than going to office to work menial jobs. they wear when treating friends , etc.

why don't they wear the kimonos to work? Why suit and tie?

Have you seen white people wearing the cultural dresses of other groups anywhere. Why do other groups seem to wear the White's dresses?

The modern world belongs to the west. Whether you admit it or not is up to you. I'm out of this threat

selemempe:
The modern world belongs to the west.

well, if you live long enough, in the following 50 years, china will prove you are wrong.

British invented bicycles, but chinese produce 99% today, and possess all the famous brands and technologies.

and tons of other examples.

igbesachick:
well, if you live long enough, in the following 50 years, china will prove you are wrong. china will prove you right that copying the west leads to growth and development

British invented bicycles but chinese produce 99% today, and possess all the famous brands and technologies.

and tons of other examples.

this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further

selemempe:
this your reply shows that you do not understand the argument and I should not have engaged you. You have been agreeing with me that copying the west gives the best results. I won't engage you any further

china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.