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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by unscripted(m): 9:30am On Mar 28, 2021
SEGLIZ:

I totally disagree with you.
prove your point with scriptures as he did ... he is entirely correct.. as Christians what are we waiting for ( thy kingdom come , thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven) ... the isrealite waited for the heavenly rule because just has God warned them , man can not rule man, king jesus came to connect us to the creator so many of use can qualify to be with him in the ultimate kingdom.. where there will no longer be wiping , death , sorrow , pain , sickness , inequality , selfishness etc .. as a Christian we should be politically neutral..
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Tobechuckwu(m): 9:32am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The answer to that is No. Regardless of what you read of in the Old Testament, in the New Covenant, Jesus Christ declared it a sin for any follower of His to occupy a position of power/ leadership over the others, in much the same way as is obtained in the World we live in. undecided

So, you will not find a born again Christian occupying position of leadership or authority over people( other followers of Jesus Christ included) because it is against God to do so. undecided

It's like u have to read Ur Bible all over again!
The Bible says d people rejoice when a Righteous man is in power.
A Christian can be a Nigerian politician , nd can still serve God nd still be righteous. That it's hard to find doesn't mean it can't be

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Tobechuckwu(m): 9:35am On Mar 28, 2021
Yes it is possible.
The same way it was hard to find a Joseph during his time nd find a Righteous politician like Daniel during his time is d same way it's hard to find, but that doesn't mean there are not.
There are very good Christian doing business righteously nd there are some also in government.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Prajonis: 9:39am On Mar 28, 2021
It will be difficult for a genuine christian to cope in the murky waters of politics, especially Nigerian politics. However, common sense has it that if you leave positions of authority to evil men alone, everyone suffers including the so-called genuine christians.

Romans 13:1 shows that God is the brain behind the establishment of secular authorities even though he has allowed Satan to manipulate it (Luke 4:5-8 ) In my opinion, if the Almighty can ever decide to reach a deal with the Devil so can any strong-willed man made in his image.

The difference between Africa and the rest of the world is that here in Africa we let evil men rest in power because we are too busy preparing for heaven. We forget that the earth is God's generous gift to man (Psalm 115:16)

Satan is not completely responsible for the actions we take. Man is a free moral agent and has the God-given right to self determination. So any good man be he a christian, muslim, or even a traditionalist can thrive in politics so long as he has a support system of like minded people.

Forget all the arguments about Old testament and New and heed the advice of a man who was touched by the hand of the almighty himself; "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." (Proverbs 29:2)

Have a pleasant day ahead cool

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by unscripted(m): 9:44am On Mar 28, 2021
Baba1234:
And he was ten times better than his peers...how can u be ten times better if you are not in the hem of affairs to make it happen. When a christian is called to service, why not? We are christians, we raise the standard in everything. It is even better if a "genuine christian" rule because he rules with the fear of God... You cannot tell me also that there are no genuine christian in the military force.. they are everywhere in every sphere of life...And when they rule, u see d difference..
let us see the deference between ruling and leadership ..

God chose moses to lead the isrealite out of Egypt..
He acted in accordance to God's direction all through the journey ( leadership ) until a point where he was instructed to speak to the rock but he struck it instead ( rulership) he got over his head and acted like his action was what determines result ... from that moment the mantle of leadership turned to Joshua.. God never created man to rule over man , he expected us to live in accordance to his instructions ( the Holy spirit ) the government is a man made structure which is good for order, but will always be flawed because man can not rule man ,, in such a flawed structure it may be a waste of time for a christian ( or exposure to corruption) to be involved in politics..

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Trustedpronet: 9:47am On Mar 28, 2021
If a true Christian is allowed to participate in politics then the coming of Jesus Christ is meaningless. Politics is worldly...what do you understand by! you are in the world and not of the world. Satan is smart, he is making politics popular and the chosen are falling for it. Remember our lords prayer and think.

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Oshokalo: 9:53am On Mar 28, 2021
the name politics alone means corruption in Nigeria if somebody say u are playing politics just no say u have a 419 attitude
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by HBB1(m): 9:53am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Oh, I see you are chuck full of the deceit that is false teachers and prophets there. In the Kingdom of God, those who are extraordinary are instead those who serves as slaves to the rest. undecided
Jesus Christ told you this in the same context, but since you skipped the first memo, why not skip them all, right? undecided

See, Jesus Christ even tells you that to be first, you have to be a slave/servant to everyone else, just like He was.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by HBB1(m): 9:54am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Oh, I see you are chuck full of the deceit that is false teachers and prophets there. In the Kingdom of God, those who are extraordinary are instead those who serves as slaves to the rest. undecided
Jesus Christ told you this in the same context, but since you skipped the first memo, why not skip them all, right? undecided

See, Jesus Christ even tells you that to be first, you have to be a slave/servant to everyone else, just like He was.

So that is what you could glean from that verse?

This is just a question of Intelligence...
You my friend are very very unintelligent!

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:59am On Mar 28, 2021
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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by helicoptarr: 10:01am On Mar 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
God never intended for humans to rule humans {Jeremiah 10:23} because it will never yield any positive result due to nepotism {Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9} that's why Samuel agitated when Israelites (God's own people) demanded for a human King {1Samuel 8:5-6} there God made a notable statement that for the Israelites to have demanded for a king it simply means they have REJECTED God's system of rulership so God told them what will eventually become of the kings that will rule them! 1Samuel 8:11-18

So politics has nothing to do with God even his own people that demanded for human rulers regretted it heavily. When Jesus walked the earth he made us understand why it's wrong for God's people to participate in politics, Satan has been ruling through the majority that has always been on his side {Luke 4:6-8} that's why Jesus refused to participate in the political affairs of his first century contemporaries {John 6:15} he made it clear that Satan is the overall ruler of the world! John 14:30 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

God's servants participated in the political affairs of other nations like Babylon and Persia but they were slaves in those land who have no choice. When Christ established Christianity none of his followers attempted politics because Jesus instilled in them that they are not part of this worldly government {John 17:16} so their own government is not of this source! John 18:36

So whenever or wherever you see anybody in Politics know that they're serving under Satan the Devil {Matthew 4:8-9} that's why they practice all sorts of evil things both publicly and in secret so Jesus is coming to exterminate them all! Daniel 2:44

May you have PEACE!




The profound truth!


Thank you!



Democracy started with Saul's assumption as the King of Israel.

Democracy in the context of its popular definition:

Government of the people; by the people; and for the people.

It clearly eliminates God from the from equation as if humans can escape His supreme jurisdiction.

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Lomprico2: 10:06am On Mar 28, 2021
yes but you will just ba a party card carrying member and nothing else.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by MummyD2020(f): 10:06am On Mar 28, 2021
Robbit:




Stop quoting scriptures multiplying words without wisdom


Go do research on :

1. Prophet Isaiah


2. Prophet Jeremiah


3. Daniel


4. Shedrack, Mes... And Abednego


5. Samson


6. Jehu


7. David


8. Nehemiah


9. Joshua, Book of Zechariah


10. Joseph
That's during their time. God was more involved in the affairs of men than now. I'm not saying He is not real today. It is impossible today, inshort
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Baba1234: 10:13am On Mar 28, 2021
unscripted:
let us see the deference between ruling and leadership ..

God chose moses to lead the isrealite out of Egypt..
He acted in accordance to God's direction all through the journey ( leadership ) until a point where he was instructed to speak to the rock but he struck it instead ( rulership) he got over his head and acted like his action was what determines result ... from that moment the mantle of leadership turned to Joshua.. God never created man to rule over man , he expected us to live in accordance to his instructions ( the Holy spirit ) the government is a man made structure which is good for order, but will always be flawed because man can not rule man ,, in such a flawed structure it may be a waste of time for a christian ( or exposure to corruption) to be involved in politics..

It is no longer news that the structure of the world is a flawed one...yes I agree with you that the government is man-made, But God has given every man the ability to dominate while on earth. The bible says " and the government shall be upon his shoulder.." which means every institution has a role to play in the agenda of Christ.. why do u call the institution our Lord has put upon his shoulder evil and impossible for a christian to ply? Don't say it's a waste of time to dominate the earth... Be filled with word and Spirit and dominate as strong as u can....you can be the best in field and u are called to serve... I wonder is daniel, joshua, david would say no...very good christians are prepared for this, maybe politics is just not mine or your calling...
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Goalnaldo(m): 10:16am On Mar 28, 2021
Yes it's very possible. Take a look at the borno State governor Zulum Babagana. I'm not saying he's a saint but his works is extremely commendable.

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by fredoooooo: 10:17am On Mar 28, 2021
Nibo .. grin
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by kennyamusan(m): 10:21am On Mar 28, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
God never intended for humans to rule humans {Jeremiah 10:23} because it will never yield any positive result due to nepotism {Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9} that's why Samuel agitated when Israelites (God's own people) demanded for a human King {1Samuel 8:5-6} there God made a notable statement that for the Israelites to have demanded for a king it simply means they have REJECTED God's system of rulership so God told them what will eventually become of the kings that will rule them! 1Samuel 8:11-18

So politics has nothing to do with God even his own people that demanded for human rulers regretted it heavily. When Jesus walked the earth he made us understand why it's wrong for God's people to participate in politics, Satan has been ruling through the majority that has always been on his side {Luke 4:6-8} that's why Jesus refused to participate in the political affairs of his first century contemporaries {John 6:15} he made it clear that Satan is the overall ruler of the world! John 14:30 compare to 2Corinthians 4:4

God's servants participated in the political affairs of other nations like Babylon and Persia but they were slaves in those land who have no choice. When Christ established Christianity none of his followers attempted politics because Jesus instilled in them that they are not part of this worldly government {John 17:16} so their own government is not of this source! John 18:36

So whenever or wherever you see anybody in Politics know that they're serving under Satan the Devil {Matthew 4:8-9} that's why they practice all sorts of evil things both publicly and in secret so Jesus is coming to exterminate them all! Daniel 2:44

May you have PEACE!

Christ established what ?����,Christianity !���
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Etuagievin(m): 10:23am On Mar 28, 2021
EvilPOTATO:
If you leave the wicked and unjust to rule over you just because you feel you are a genuine Christian, then you are in trouble
. But which genuine Christian do you think can bail us out?

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Nobody: 10:23am On Mar 28, 2021
philanthropic:
In the Bible, we saw God's people who were in the government. We have countries whose political system is not as complex as that of Nigeria. Now, can a Genuine Christian be a politician in Nigeria? with this corruption is it possible, and how?

Watch as all the Nigerian Thieves, Manipulators, And Serial Scammers will gather on this thread and say YES. Being religious In Nigeria Is deception and a waste of time.......

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Mynet11(m): 10:25am On Mar 28, 2021
philanthropic:
In the Bible, we saw God's people who were in the government. We have countries whose political system is not as complex as that of Nigeria. Now, can a Genuine Christian be a politician in Nigeria? with this corruption is it possible, and how?

To help you answer your question, ask yourself: Was Jesus Christ a politician when he was on earth? What did he do when the Jews wanted to make him King(politician)? What did he do when Satan offered him the kingdom of the world? What did Jesus said in prayer to his father at John 17:15,16?
So since we are Christians (Christ-like or Christ followers) shouldn't we imitate our master?
He was no part of the world, that include the world's politics, so should we!

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by LordReed(m): 10:36am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The answer to that is No. Regardless of what you read of in the Old Testament, in the New Covenant, Jesus Christ declared it a sin for any follower of His to occupy a position of power/ leadership over the others, in much the same way as is obtained in the World we live in. undecided

So, you will not find a born again Christian occupying position of leadership or authority over people( other followers of Jesus Christ included) because it is against God to do so. undecided

Where in the bible did Jesus make that declaration?
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:40am On Mar 28, 2021
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm you tried my friend but Saul's assumption as King of Israel was the second face of Democracy.
Democracy actually started in the garden of Eden! Note how Satan stylishly formatted the idea of God's rulership from the hearts of Adam and Eve, then replacing God's rule with human Governments! Genesis 3:1-5
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil connotes who's right to set standards is it God or man? So their eating of this tree indicates that they want to step in God's shoes {Psalms 82:6} determining what is good and evil independently of God's direction! Jeremiah 10:23

Ever since then mankind has been experiencing hardship due to Nepotism in human government {Ecclesiastes 4:1, 8:9} human rulers will pamper their own children but demand taxes from orphans and widows {Matthew 17:24-26} what a sharp contrast with God's own system of rule?
He gave His only begotten son to die for sinners so that we might live forever! John 3:16

Surely Mankind's rule (Politics) will never yield anything positive but troubles upon troubles! Revelations 6:3-4

May you have PEACE! smiley

helicoptarr:

The profound truth! Thank you!
Democracy started with Saul's assumption as the King of Israel.
Democracy in the context of its popular definition:
Government of the people; by the people; and for the people.
It clearly eliminates God from the from equation as if humans can escape His supreme jurisdiction.

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by SEGLIZ: 10:40am On Mar 28, 2021
unscripted:
prove your point with scriptures as he did ... he is entirely correct.. as Christians what are we waiting for ( thy kingdom come , thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven) ... the isrealite waited for the heavenly rule because just has God warned them , man can not rule man, king jesus came to connect us to the creator so many of use can qualify to be with him in the ultimate kingdom.. where there will no longer be wiping , death , sorrow , pain , sickness , inequality , selfishness etc .. as a Christian we should be politically neutral..
God is has being is still having issues in the affairs of men since the pollution.
where in the Bible did Holy Spirit passively or boldly talked believers out of leadership position?
if I agree with position, why then did God elevate those he elevated to position of authority in the Bible? Esther should be our case study, which the situation we are in currently in Nigeria.
we as believers are the major and real problem this globe is having as against the unbelievers like we claim.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by salem1996: 10:50am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The answer to that is No. Regardless of what you read of in the Old Testament, in the New Covenant, Jesus Christ declared it a sin for any follower of His to occupy a position of power/ leadership over the others, in much the same way as is obtained in the World we live in. undecided

So, you will not find a born again Christian occupying position of leadership or authority over people( other followers of Jesus Christ included) because it is against God to do so. undecided

Hope you know Jesus Himself was a leader over people??

Sometimes we speak without any wisdom.

Do you know that Many People including Philemon were Leaders in their communities?

Corinth was consider one of the worst city in her days as seen in 1 Cor. 5 yet some believers were leaders.

Listen, it depends on your motives of Joining politics. No doubt that Nigeria have a corrupt governmental system but think of Daniel. Do u know that no matter how u pray and fast nothing will change in the government If there are no right people there? and as long we keep having this view, nothing serious will change and the government will keep oppressing the church.

*I come in peace*

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by Masterclass32: 10:52am On Mar 28, 2021
Depends on what you mean by 'politician'. If by that you mean persons hustling and jostling for governmental posts, then No. Cause you'd have to compromise your Christian values somewhere along the line.

However, there are times God calls a person to occupy some governmental/political posts. In such cases, it must be done His way. Wait on Him, and follow as He leads. If He said it, it will happen as long as you don't 'miss the road' by following your own understanding.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by solostar1: 10:52am On Mar 28, 2021
Robbit:




Stop quoting scriptures multiplying words without wisdom


Go do research on :

1. Prophet Isaiah


2. Prophet Jeremiah


3. Daniel


4. Shedrack, Mes... And Abednego


5. Samson


6. Jehu


7. David


8. Nehemiah


9. Joshua, Book of Zechariah


10. Joseph
They are not Christians.

The OP is asking for ' Christians'

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by solostar1: 10:54am On Mar 28, 2021
Robbit:



Yes. Possible and acceptable. Check the book of Zechariah. Joshua. Check the life of David
Judaists they are, not Christians.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by salem1996: 10:55am On Mar 28, 2021
stanliwise:

I need the chapter of the verses Jesus said this.

Don't mind that person.. People thinks they are the only ones reading the scriptures
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by salem1996: 10:56am On Mar 28, 2021
solostar1:
They are not Christians.
The OP is asking for ' Christians'
They are not Christians but Serve the same God Christians serve...

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Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by solostar1: 11:02am On Mar 28, 2021
salem1996:


They are not Christians but Serve the same God Christians serve...
OP said Christians.

Abi Muslims, Judaists, Buddhist, etc are they Christians.

Christians = followers of Christ.
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by paltielx: 11:03am On Mar 28, 2021
No not only to nigeria but this world's political position. Because of the good things that Jesus used to do, john 6:14,15 reports that the people wanted to make him king, when he knew their plans he escape from them to the mountain all alone, later he told Pilate that his kingdom is not of this world. So true christian must follow jesus and reject the political offices today
Re: Can A Genuine Christian Be A Nigerian Politician? by FirmTR(m): 11:04am On Mar 28, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Oh, I see you are chuck full of the deceit that is false teachers and prophets there. In the Kingdom of God, those who are extraordinary are instead those who serves as slaves to the rest. undecided
Jesus Christ told you this in the same context, but since you skipped the first memo, why not skip them all, right? undecided

See, Jesus Christ even tells you that to be first, you have to be a slave/servant to everyone else, just like He was.

You know, irrespective of one's age, it takes a higher level of reasoning to understand the Bible.

What Jesus meant there is that a good leader must be ready to serve (attend to the needs) his subjects at all times.

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