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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by edoairways: 11:34am On Apr 04, 2021
rajiedreez:
I'm trying to understand your point of view, but you didn't put into consideration that the banks were the ones that enabled the so called interswitch. Interswitch can't work independently neither can fintech. everything is connected to banks in Nigeria. If a new technology comes now that promises the banks better return than interswitch, they'll dump interswitch in no time. A good example was when CBN directed the banks to shut accounts of crypto vendors it reduced the purchase of the digital currencies all together. If the banks intends to put the plug on fintech company they'll have no bank remit and coordinate their transactions, because it you buy airtime from them they'll have to send the money from their own accounts to the networks account in the banks and that's what the crypto guys were doing before CBN pulled the plug on them. So if a solution isn't found soon consumers will feel the heat and MTN will loose than the Banks
I agree with you on this. Are you a banker if I may ask
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by AK481(m): 11:58am On Apr 04, 2021
PrimadonnaO:
Time for JumiaPay to shine.

I'm finally going to respond to their many unsolicited mails asking me to recharge via their platform.

Where will opay see the money they want to use to exchange credit ?

Will I credit my opay account?
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by ranktzy(m): 12:06pm On Apr 04, 2021
spacechuks:
Those of you that are saying mtn will win

It will shock you mtn provides network for most of the banks which definitely they will lose

Recharging via fintech and other platforms, how do you introduce the cash into the platforms, you will either use your bank debit cards or pay cash, I dont get it,

Fintech dont have CBN licence to run accounts,

Both parties need each other to strive and make profits, they should settle the issue amicably

I stopped recharging using my bank app for over a year cause of the SMS charges I get. I recharge using other platforms that offer data & airtime recharge. I just top up my wallet using either bank transfer or payment gateway & I can get airtime at a lower rate unlike the bank app that sells at the exact value.

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by einsteine(m): 12:13pm On Apr 04, 2021
Fintechs would eventually eat the lunch of the so called DMBs
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by pmc01(m): 12:17pm On Apr 04, 2021
[quote author=Alejoas post=100470817][/quote]

It's not that mobile, is it?
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Eteka1(m): 12:22pm On Apr 04, 2021
The banks hold the aces here.

They should simply impose sanctions on any Fintech doing business with MTN i.e disable their customers from crediting or withdrawing from their Fintech wallets.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by grandstar(m): 12:23pm On Apr 04, 2021
I hope MTN won't regret this. The ease of simply tying *737*amount# is why I love online banking through banks. If it takes a longer process than, it may discourage many.

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Dechief: 12:29pm On Apr 04, 2021
Alejoas:
Let us see who blinks first! Fintech are waiting to pounce on any shortcoming of the banks. Customer is king and i expect mtn to have the upper hand because there are alternatives to the bank but difficult to move to other network. I have ten to twenty fours hours external battery for laptop for sale. You will be impressed!.
How much and where's your location
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Nodogragra4me(m): 12:33pm On Apr 04, 2021
MASTAkiLLAh:
Good one from MTN, the greedy banks can go suck a rhino's díck cool


I have recharged my glo twice when mtn didnt go through. Won't inconvenience myself with any so called fintech for their bnefit
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Abuleoshi: 12:37pm On Apr 04, 2021
DelTel:




Quite interesting to see people support MTN on this, has MTN reduced calls or data rates or any of their services to justify the reduction in commission rate.

What reason(s) has MTN provided to reduce commission arbitrarily whereas other Telcos didn't.

The new platforms they are promoting are just smokescreens, MTN has agenda they are working on to push everyone out of the market. While I am less bothered about the banks, I am for the SMEs (or are you unaware roadside, paper-based and e-recharge commission is also affected).

The same matter is brewing with electricity companies, they keep reducing commission for SMEs whereas the electricity rate keeps going up.

MTN don't want anyone to make money in their space (every unit in MTN boost of cost reduction), whereas same MTN is encroaching other market space i.e selling inverter.

How a South African company plans to kill SMEs and Nigerians are in support baffles me.




It is either you don't live in Nigeria or you are a financial illiterate not to understand cost of doing business in Nigeria has sky rocketed in the last one year, that businesses are looking inwards to cut cost and remain profitable.
Same period last year, dollar was N360, dollar is N485 today. Businesses are increasing price of products and services, Coca-Cola just increased the price of soft drinks to N120, fast food outlets increased prices of snacks, Hotels have increased prices of their room rate.
Telecos on the other hand can't increase Tariff like other businesses because NCC is regulating prices in the Telecoms sector. If Telecos can't increase prices, they need to look inwards to cut cost and remain profitable. Hence the sales discount reduction, this will go along way to improve MTN's balance sheet.
You might ask is it only MTN that is affected by the harsh business environment in Nigeria that they are reducing sales discount? The bigger the head, the bigger the problem. MTN is the market leader, so naturally they will lead and others will follow. If MTN is able to resist the banks, watch out for other Telecos to also reduce sales discount.

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Holak: 12:40pm On Apr 04, 2021
Oyiboman69:
its OK if you have no answer to that cos there's no way their millions of customers will put their money with in the hands of fintech...I guess fintech will still have something to do with the banks....

Of course, no Fintechs without Banks.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Basher8583: 12:43pm On Apr 04, 2021
jakD:





While I do not know the origin of their feud, I still believe MTN is at fault. Have you wondered why only MTN has problem with every bank? not even just with a bank.

Even when it comes to mobile fraud via SIM Swap, MTN is the most notorious network.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Alejoas(m): 12:49pm On Apr 04, 2021
pmc01:


It's not that mobile, is it?


This is small enough to fit into your laptop bags, light weight too

Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Hisduchess(f): 12:52pm On Apr 04, 2021
valentineuwakwe:


https://punchng.com/ussd-war-mtn-snubs-banks-links-77-million-subscribers-to-fintech-platforms/

Goodnews jareh! So that plenty people will be patronizing my vtu business grin

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Alejoas(m): 12:53pm On Apr 04, 2021
Dechief:

How much and where's your location


We have 2 sizes available, fifty thousand and seventy five thousand respectively for ten hours plus and eighteen hours plus capacities, I dey Akure, 080653.16307
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by MASTAkiLLAh(m): 12:54pm On Apr 04, 2021
Nodogragra4me:



I have recharged my glo twice when mtn didnt go through. Won't inconvenience myself with any so called fintech for their bnefit
good for you, just know that this particular battle involves all the telcos. Banks are only using MTN as scapegoat. Where is the 42 billion naira banks collected on behalf of telcos via USSD charges and why are banks insisting telco customers pay an additional 6+ naira on top regular charges without paying off that initial debt ? I know MTN are a greedy bunch but this battle is for your own benefit. The regulators and everyone else is siding the banks because of kickbacks meanwhile, Nigerians are being ripped off relentlessly. Where is the 42 billion banks took from customers ?

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by MASTAkiLLAh(m): 12:56pm On Apr 04, 2021
Abuleoshi:

It is either you don't live in Nigeria or you are a financial illiterate not to understand cost of doing business in Nigeria has sky rocketed in the last one year, that businesses are looking inwards to cut cost and remain profitable.
Same period last year, dollar was N360, dollar is N485 today. Businesses are increasing price of products and services, Coca-Cola just increased the price of soft drinks to N120, fast food outlets increased prices of snacks, Hotels have increased prices of their room rate.
Telecos on the other hand can't increase Tariff like other businesses because NCC is regulating prices in the Telecoms sector. If Telecos can't increase prices, they need to look inwards to cut cost and remain profitable. Hence the sales discount reduction, this will go along way to improve MTN's balance sheet.
You might ask is it only MTN that is affected by the harsh business environment in Nigeria that they are reducing sales discount? The bigger the head, the bigger the problem. MTN is the market leader, so naturally they will lead and others will follow. If MTN is able to resist the banks, watch out for other Telecos to also reduce sales discount.
two bottles of Heineken for you sire

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by CharlesPhc: 12:59pm On Apr 04, 2021
I think indigenous Nigerian entrepreneurs should begin to see opportunities at times like this.

I've been recharging and doing all my financial transactions thru Carbon App for a long time now and feel comfortable keeping my money with Carbon rather than First Bank or any other Commercial bank.

Carbon has account number where customers can pay cash directly into Carbon account and recharge airtime free of charge.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Handsnigga: 1:04pm On Apr 04, 2021
4ckyou:


They were making millions before the bank transfer so they won't really care, both of them will lose but the banks will lose more because almost all household have mtn line.
Very true
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by mmsen: 1:09pm On Apr 04, 2021
bcomputer101:
MTN will loose this fight.




Let dem continue with their initial gragra.
Most Nigerians knows little or nothing about Flutterwave, Jumia Pay, OPay, Kuda, Carbon and BillsnPay.

I stand with banks on this.

Well it's about time that they learn, they are far more convenient than that archaic USSD nonsense.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by mmsen: 1:10pm On Apr 04, 2021
Eteka1:
The banks hold the aces here.

They should simply impose sanctions on any Fintech doing business with MTN i.e disable their customers from crediting or withdrawing from their Fintech wallets.

Impose sanctions for what? Being unable to extort MTN the way that they do Nigerians?
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by DelTel(m): 1:12pm On Apr 04, 2021
Abuleoshi:

It is either you don't live in Nigeria or you are a financial illiterate not to understand cost of doing business in Nigeria has sky rocketed in the last one year, that businesses are looking inwards to cut cost and remain profitable.
Same period last year, dollar was N360, dollar is N485 today. Businesses are increasing price of products and services, Coca-Cola just increased the price of soft drinks to N120, fast food outlets increased prices of snacks, Hotels have increased prices of their room rate.
Telecos on the other hand can't increase Tariff like other businesses because NCC is regulating prices in the Telecoms sector. If Telecos can't increase prices, they need to look inwards to cut cost and remain profitable. Hence the sales discount reduction, this will go along way to improve MTN's balance sheet.
You might ask is it only MTN that is affected by the harsh business environment in Nigeria that they are reducing sales discount? The bigger the head, the bigger the problem. MTN is the market leader, so naturally they will lead and others will follow. If MTN is able to resist the banks, watch out for other Telecos to also reduce sales discount.

So a behemoth company making billions in profit from Nigerians should muzzle and kill SMEs out of life/business? (I stated earlier I don't care about the banks). Of course, your financial literacy school did not teach you SMEs are the bedrock of any nation's economy.

I see you claim to be financial literate but does not know MTN Nigeria is not only profitable (with revenues risen to over N100 billion monthly in 2020 with half-year revenues of N638 billion in 2020 as the MTN Nigeria made a 49% growth in data revenues in the second quarter of 2020) but also unaffected by covid19 lockdown as its Nigerian customers guzzled more data in the ensuing Covid19 and EndSars economic shutdown. I will not even go to the dollars repatriation brouhaha (still ongoing if you care to know).

Have you also compared calls and data rates across the market MTN operates in Africa and find out which country pays the highest and most profitable.

To your first question, I live and run a business in Nigeria and with thought-process like yours, then no hope for the common man (woe betides common man if someone like you gets to position of authority someday).

Happy Easter.

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Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Nobody: 1:21pm On Apr 04, 2021
I just bought 2k airtime from the bank through my mtn line and I was debited without the money entering my Mtn account. what is going on angry
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Abuleoshi: 1:24pm On Apr 04, 2021
DelTel:


So a behemoth company making billions in profit from Nigerians should muzzle and kill SMEs out of life/business? (I stated earlier I don't care about the banks). Of course, your financial literacy school did not teach you SMEs are the bedrock of any nation's economy.

I see you claim to be financial literate but does not know MTN Nigeria is not only profitable (with revenues risen to over N100 billion monthly in 2020 with half-year revenues of N638 billion in 2020 as the MTN Nigeria made a 49% growth in data revenues in the second quarter of 2020) but also unaffected by covid19 lockdown as its Nigerian customers guzzled more data in the ensuing Covid19 and EndSars economic shutdown. I will not even go to the dollars repatriation brouhaha (still ongoing if you care to know).

Have you also compared calls and data rates across the market MTN operates in Africa and find out which country pays the highest and most profitable.

To your first question, I live and run a business in Nigeria and with thought-process like yours, then no hope for the common man (woe betides common man when someone like you gets to position of authority someday).

Happy Easter.
In all the revenue figures you are quoting, What is MTN Nigeria's EBITDA margin? Why are you looking at revenue only? What is MTN's EBITDA Margin compared to its closest rival Airtel? Compare the EBITDA and maybe you will understand why MTN Nigeria is looking for where to cut cost and improve efficiency!
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by bukatyne(f): 1:28pm On Apr 04, 2021
rajiedreez:
Both MTN and the banks are thieves. But one steals and use the money here in Nigeria and the other steal and look for cunning way to pack the money to South Africa. I'll go with the naija thief on this one. MTN like other South African company sees Nigeria as a Cash cow, they milk the citizens with help of other Nigerians and try to pack all the money back to their country through the backdoors

I don't understand the support for MTN.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Tapout(m): 1:28pm On Apr 04, 2021
airsaylongcome:


When Interswitch started in the 90s a lot of people said "There's NO WAY cards and ATMs can work in Nigeria". Today almost everyone uses a card and pay for that. It's just a matter of time. Technology is an enabler and this move by MTN just gave Fintechs an opening to massively enter that market. The choice is for customers to look for physical Top-up cards to manually load their lines or leverage the technology offered by Fintech. Have you stopped to ask why this move was done over the Easter period? Or you think it was a knee-jerk action by ALL the banks?

Oga interswitch was founded in 2002.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Nobody: 1:41pm On Apr 04, 2021
OfeAkwuPrincess:


Ok...so MTN reduces the commission of the banks to 2.5%, which the bank also shares with the aggregators, and MTN takes about 97.5% for themselves.

So how do the banks maintain their apps and USSD platforms with the little percentage given to them Which MTN benefits greatly from because it’s convenient for its subscribers?

Who is greedy here?...MTN or banks?
And then overnight MTN announces an alternative platform as if they’ve not got it all planned from the onset.

Why are other networks not in a feud with banks?

I am not supporting MTN whatsoever, just saying one man's loss is another man's gain. I see what will happen to the fintechs that now agree to take the 2.5%, more gain for them. The likes of Kuda and flutterwave will start attracting customers because of this development.

I never said MTN was right, but I belief that these banks can still do with that meagre 2.5%, their income is not principally coming from that token they get from MTN, they have chain of sources where they get money.

I remember what happened to the author of the renowed "The Last Day at Forcados" that was chosen by JAMB for candidates. Everything was going fine between the author and the publisher until the author one day felt that the N100 that was being paid to him per copy sold wasn't enough. The publisher had to present another book for JAMB to complete the three years deal between them.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Nobody: 1:43pm On Apr 04, 2021
Sagay212:


Omonthe percentage nor small oo. The banks are just greedy. If you know how much airtime people buy electronically everyday. MTN can chop data like mad but their internet service is the best. Some people recharge more than 5k per day.

That is exactly my assertion, when the volume is high, token becomes something huge.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Myself2(m): 1:45pm On Apr 04, 2021
Babalawoniger:
Two useless thieves fighting for their pocket.

Exactly
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by DelTel(m): 1:55pm On Apr 04, 2021
Abuleoshi:

In all the revenue figures you are quoting, What is MTN Nigeria's EBITDA margin? Why are you looking at revenue only? What is MTN's EBITDA Margin compared to its closest rival Airtel? Compare the EBITDA and maybe you will understand why MTN Nigeria is looking for where to cut cost and improve efficiency!

I am flabbergasted to say the least. Is it not revenue that ultimately leads to profit for an efficient organisation; or are the figures I mentioned wrong? grin.

Jokes apart, what is the concern of SMEs when a market leader can not play and run its business according to the law of the land they operate making MTN EBITDA bad compared to competitors. So SMEs should be punished for MTN's inefficiency and fines (and bribery)!

A company has responsibilities to different segments, be it, staffers, shareholders, suppliers, society, government; including SMEs especially for a big corporate like MTN or SMEs did not aid their expansion and penetration.
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Nodogragra4me(m): 1:56pm On Apr 04, 2021
MASTAkiLLAh:
good for you, just know that this particular battle involves all the telcos. Banks are only using MTN as scapegoat. Where is the 42 billion naira banks collected on behalf of telcos via USSD charges and why are banks insisting telco customers pay an additional 6+ naira on top regular charges without paying off that initial debt ? I know MTN are a greedy bunch but this battle is for your own benefit. The regulators and everyone else is siding the banks because of kickbacks meanwhile, Nigerians are being ripped off relentlessly. Where is the 42 billion banks took from customers ?



As long as glo and Airtel is going through mtn will soon come to their senses that they are just the number one of the three choices most Nigerians carry around .
Re: USSD: MTN Snubs Banks, Links 77 Million Subscribers To FINTECH Platforms by Myself2(m): 1:58pm On Apr 04, 2021
AK481:


Where will opay see the money they want to use to exchange credit ?

Will I credit my opay account?

Hmmm, good question cos the money is with the banks

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