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And what DDG did between 2012 and 2018 has no bearing whatsoever with who should be our keeper in 2021. In football you keep your job based on what you can do now and what you potentially can do in the future NOT what you did in the past.

This is not Nigerian Merit Awards where they will award you GCON because of your long history of service to the nation in the past.

afrodoc:
patrickmuf dey sometimes react emotionally. Na why he almost fight with people because of Martial issue until Martial fall him hand patapata.

2 wrongs do not make a right. Even if it is true that the press would have erroneously blamed DDG for that goal that does not mean we should now gang up against our own keeper (Henderson).

Even a hybrid of Kahn and Buffon will concede from crosses from time to time. Replacing DDG does not reduce our risk of conceding from crosses to zero.

Lols, Patrick na die hard fan

Degea gave his best, we also stood by him(3 seasons oo) despite his errors.......it is time to move on. Simple

CapitalCee:
People like us has been saying DDG needs competition even before Henderson performed admirably last season in Sheffield United. Its not Henderson's fault he is English, so because he is English he shouldn't be made number 1? So why is DDG being bench by Zpanish NT coaches or are Kepa and Unai Simon English too?

I wonder.

Expert17:
Henderson and this current DDG are on par.....(i will stil pick Hendo sha)

DDG is 30 and taking home 375k
Hendo is 24 and on 120k

We have the option of keeping one and selling the other, the right choice is to sell DDG, so I don't understand the noise.

The argument is that DDG has done a lot for us. So we can keep him till eternity as against an up and coming players.
How many years was DDG when Fergie handed him our number 1 spot. Infact DDG's errors was instrumental to the 2011/12 league title that we lost to City on GD. But we saw it then as a learning process, i remember argueing with some united fans in my street then. We all pleaded for him to be given a chance. So why is it a problem now that it's another person's turn to shine.

afrodoc:
And what DDG did between 2012 and 2018 has no bearing whatsoever with who should be our keeper in 2021. In football you keep your job based on what you can do now and what you potentially can do in the future NOT what you did in the past.

This is not Nigerian Merit Awards where they will award you GCON because of your long history of service to the nation in the past.

Thank you doc.

Cech lost his place to Cortiois, and Casilas list his place to Lopez, these are absolute tier 1 legends. So why will that of DDG be different. Not as if he is playing for free all those while

afrodoc:
I am not so sure about that. DDG is not criticized EVERY time we concede a headed goal. In this particular situation Henderson actually did well to pull off a DDG-like save only for AWB and Lindelof to sleep on duty twice and allow the rebound.

And i don't really get your point. Do you mean that because you believe that the press would have wrongfully criticized DDG for the goal we should now wrongfully criticize Henderson for the goal? Abi is that not what you are demanding?

My point is that the criticism of DDG is now overblown just cos we have Henderson...

If Henderson performs better, he will take De Gea's place and that's justifiable but people shouldn't criticize De Gea and turn a blind eye when Henderson is involved...The criticism should be constructive though.

Cc: Expert17 and CapitalCee

Lol

CapitalCee:
The argument is that DDG has done a lot for us. So we can keep him till eternity as against an up and coming players.
How many years was DDG when Fergie handed him our number 1 spot. Infact DDG's errors was instrumental to the 2011/12 league title that we lost to City on GD. But we saw it then as a learning process, i remember argueing with some united fans in my street then. We all pleaded for him to be given a chance. So why is it a problem now that it's another person's turn to shine.

The bolded is what you choose to argue against and not my point...

#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud

patrickmuf:
My point is that the criticism of DDG is now overblown just cos we have Henderson...

If Henderson performs better, he will take De Gea's place and that's justifiable but people shouldn't criticize De Gea and turn a blind eye when Henderson is involved...The criticism should be constructive though.

Cc: Expert17 and CapitalCee

But Henderson was not at fault for the goal AT ALL. So why are you talking about turning a blind eye?

DDG escaped greater criticism because of his reputation IMO. If he was playing for a decisive manager like Pep he would have been replaced 2 years ago. The reason we kept faith with him is similar to the reason we still have Dr Jones on our books.

patrickmuf:
My point is that the criticism of DDG is now overblown just cos we have Henderson...

If Henderson performs better, he will take De Gea's place and that's justifiable but people shouldn't criticize De Gea and turn a blind eye when Henderson is involved...The criticism should be constructive though.

Cc: Expert17 and CapitalCe

How many errors have Henderson commited this season as against that of DDG? I can name several DDG errors off my head, check the EPL GK stats he is up there among keepers who commited most errors leading to goal, For the past 3 season DDG has cost us dearly, Why are you turning blind eyes to that too?

Its natural to intestify a call for a player to be replaced when a seemingly better one comes on board. Ddg did not do half of what Rooney did at united but at some point even the so called English media were hounding him for earning huge pay without justifying it on the pitch. Its obvious that DDG is no longer elite level GK, his wages is too high for his present quality, so why wont he be criticized. What wrong has Henderson commited for trying to compete for a place

CapitalCee:
Thank you doc.

Cech lost his place to Cortiois, and Casilas list his place to Lopez, these are absolute tier 1 legends. So why will that of DDG be different. Not as if he is playing for free all those while

You can't keep 2 good GKs capable of playing as No 1 at a club, one has to leave.

The first thing they would consider is age, the youngest will likely stay:

Cortious and Cech
Szczęsny and Buffon (left for PSG)
Lopez and Casillas
Ter Stergen and Bravo etc

patrickmuf:
The bolded is what you choose to argue against and not my point...

You said DDG has paid his dues and must not be hounded and must be treated honourably. You said that.

But TBH DDG has been treated honourably enough for commiting countless season defining errors for the past 3 years and still remained number 1 at a huge club like united, he is earning the best wages in the world, even though its obvious his quality is is no longer elite. So how else do you want him to be treated?

You want a stand to be named after him? Or a status biult for him?

Expert17:
You can't keep 2 good GKs capable of playing as No 1 at a club, one has to leave.

The first thing they would consider is age, the youngest will likely stay:

Cortious and Cech
Szczęsny and Buffon (left for PSG)
Lopez and Casillas
Ter Stergen and Bravo etc

United fans are too emotional. Thats why most of them keep making excuses for Ole because of a tap in goal he scored in 1999.

CapitalCee:
You said DDG has paid his dues and must not be hounded and must be treated honourably. You said that.

But TBH DDG has been treated honourably enough for commiting countless season defining errors for the past 3 years and still remained number 1 at a huge club like united, he is earning the best wages in the world, even though its obvious his quality is is no longer elite. So how else do you want him to be treated?

You want a stand to be named after him? Or a status biult for me?

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Someone actually said this yesterday. He said United should erect a statue of DDG at Old Trafford.

afrodoc:
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Someone actually said this yesterday. He said United should erect a statue of DDG at Old Trafford.

afrodoc:
But Henderson was not at fault for the goal AT ALL. So why are you talking about turning a blind eye?

DDG escaped greater criticism because of his reputation IMO. If he was playing for a decisive manager like Pep he would have been replaced 2 years ago. The reason we kept faith with him is similar to the reason we still have Dr Jones on our books.

I know who that post was for and he got it...Expert17 would have criticized DDG for that goal...

It's not DDG fault that he is paid in excess of 375k weekly thus making it difficult to move him on...I know who you are targeting that missile to, God save Ed and friends...

In all, if Henderson outperforms DDG, then he should start but if he doesn't, THE DDG should continue in goal...I really don't know why most folks here think it is impossible to keep them both. Already, they have both played over 15 games and are both on course to play over 20 games. That's fair enough.

CapitalCee:
You said DDG has paid his dues and must not be hounded and must be treated honourably. You said that.

But TBH DDG has been treated honourably enough for commiting countless season defining errors for the past 3 years and still remained number 1 at a huge club like united, he is earning the best wages in the world, even though its obvious his quality is is no longer elite. So how else do you want him to be treated?

You want a stand to be named after him? Or a status biult for me?

How does it imply that he must be number 1? I went further to say if Henderson outperforms him, he should continue in goal. Nobody should get anything on the platter, you play well, you get to start...

afrodoc:
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Someone actually said this yesterday. He said United should erect a statue of DDG at Old Trafford.

Lol. DDG has been good for us but if a statue should be biult for him. May be some part of united shares should be given to people like Schmeichel and Van der Sar

Jodera:
You don submit question paper na... All these one you dey type na after effect

Hope the Easter was cool.
And man u made it cooler

My guy

The Easter was spectacular

BikeMan:
Whaat?! Do you even think before you say these things? So because you won yesterday, we can't qualify for UCL again? By GW 30?

Noted
We go see

patrickmuf:
How does it imply that he must be number 1? I went further to say if Henderson outperforms him, he should continue in goal. Nobody should get anything on the platter, you play well, you get to start...

But according to the manager, Henderson is outperforming him. Even last season that Henderson was at Sheffield United he outperformed DDG, hence the competition for the number 1 spot. Nobody is giving Henderson the number 1 spot on a platter. Moreover it is not even clear he is number 1 yet. So DDG so relax and compete for his place just like he is doing in Spanish NT.

patrickmuf:
I know who that post was for and he got it...Expert17 would have criticized DDG for that goal...

It's not DDG fault that he is paid in excess of 375k weekly thus making it difficult to move him on...I know who you are targeting that missile to, God save Ed and friends...

In all, if Henderson outperforms DDG, then he should start but if he doesn't, THE DDG should continue in goal...I really don't know why most folks here think it is impossible to keep them both. Already, they have both played over 15 games and are both on course to play over 20 games. That's fair enough.

How many situations can you name in which a club kept rotating 2 keepers year in year out. At the end of the day one of them has got to go and unless DDG is CLEARLY the better keeper i will go with the younger and cheaper keeper.

Rotating keepers for long periods erodes the skills of both keepers. That is the reason why we can't keep both of them.

handelex:
I saw this and decided to share it here....


Food for thought:

Roman Abramovich sacked Lampard when Chelsea were 9 points behind Man United and employed Tuchel. Tuchel went on a 10 game unbeaten run without conceding any goal at home while Man United were out of form. Today, Chelsea still find themselves 9 points behind Man United.

Lol, odiegwu.

handelex:
I saw this and decided to share it here....


Food for thought:

Roman Abramovich sacked Lampard when Chelsea were 9 points behind Man United and employed Tuchel. Tuchel went on a 10 game unbeaten run without conceding any goal at home while Man United were out of form. Today, Chelsea still find themselves 9 points behind Man United.

Na the players do am on their own

patrickmuf:
How does it imply that he must be number 1? I went further to say if Henderson outperforms him, he should continue in goal. Nobody should get anything on the platter, you play well, you get to start...

It is easier to keep Lewandowski, Suarez and Benzema in the same club than to keep Manuel Neur and Oblak.

Gk position is different bro, rotation can't work.

KingAlabi:
Na the players do am on their own

Lol see Wetin Alabi dey celebrate. What about the guy above you abi na only Chelsea dem say make you dey compete with?

afrodoc:
How many situations can you name in which a club kept rotating 2 keepers year in year out. At the end of the day one of them has got to go and unless DDG is CLEARLY the better keeper i will go with the younger and cheaper keeper.

Rotating keepers for long periods erodes the skills of both keepers. That is the reason why we can't keep both of them.

I wish Henderson is in goal for the rest of the season. I'd like him to have that extended run just so we or better put, the club can make an informed decision...

BikeMan:
Lol see Wetin Alabi dey celebrate. What about the guy above you abi na only Chelsea dem say make you dey compete with?

If this is what you call celebration then you are sick, honestly.

Expert17:
It is easier to keep Lewandowski, Suarez and Benzema in the same club than to keep Manuel Neur and Oblak.

Gk position is different bro, rotation can't work.

Okay, we will judge them over a period of time and see who's better. Henderson has age on his side though and that's an advantage...

KingAlabi:
If this is what you call celebration then you are sick, honestly.

You were not always quick to insults, what has changed?

patrickmuf:
Okay, we will judge them over a period of time and see who's better. Henderson has age on his side though and that's an advantage...

Forget the age, Woodward is looking at that 375K every week.

Baba don get sense.