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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4alll: 10:13am On Apr 11, 2021
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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by nurudeen181(m): 10:17am On Apr 11, 2021
GboyegaD:
Help them the way you can and encourage them to work harder.
oga, is it by working hard, waiting mechanic and bricklayer do God?
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by sigiyaya112: 10:18am On Apr 11, 2021
Truefaith:
Here is another so-called 'pastor' who should never have set foot in a pulpit, someone who really do not understand the basic MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE: sin, not God's inability to keep the world fed, housed, healed or maintained, is the issue.


Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem


Really?


Isn't that very different from what you have in Isaiah 59:1-2, pastor? Was Christ wrong, pastor, when He taught people to seek first the kingdom of God and that all other things would be added to them?


With this your postulation, it would appear an economics professor or a social worker should rather be in your post.

The problem of the world, Mr Pastor, is spiritual. It is SIN. God is capable, not only to solve all economic and social problems once the sin issue is removed from the world.

No one is supposed to be called a pastor if the main teaching of the Bible is not understood by the person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E
You are a f00l!!
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by kalu61(m): 10:25am On Apr 11, 2021
RuddyFusion:


All you mentioned above about Africa have spiritual roots it's that spirit.


There's a foundation upon which everything stands and there's principalities.abd powers , rulers and spiritual wickedness that controls the affairs of the earth and men outside the spiritual coverage of the Holy spirit.,....

There's a spiritual root to every.physical issue and that's a fact
How about those of developed economy that don't give attention to religion.

Why will a sane Nigeria fast and pray to get US Visa why US citizen can enters most countrie at ease?

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Nobody: 10:29am On Apr 11, 2021
chatinent:
A good advert for saying you need members.


Oga, go and find sth else doing to pastorship; tithes and offerings are not supposed to be salary. Even Paul worked! Even Jesus worked!


You shed tears when they say they need food but you get angry when they don't pay tithes and offerings and you use the Bible to twist a military threat against those who don't do them having a duplex in hell fire.


You consume their harvest and say it goes to God.


You use their offerings to sponsor your children while theirs are at home.



And you come here acting like
you care for them while you are indirectly clamouring for new members.






Yawns.

Lol, savagery grin grin cheesy
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by yorke1: 10:31am On Apr 11, 2021
Earlystar698:
Church worshipers this days are decreasing in their numbers because many have start reasoning with their brain..why will someone go to church on a normal day in the name of counseling? Haven't they come across where bible says no food for lazy man and also heaven help those who helped themselves?. The reason for poverty in africa is because of church.. Many people don't actually no the meaning of vanity upon vanity.. majority of africa believe that wealth is vanity, which is a as results of poor preaching. Those people don't actually need food rather work,yes I know work is hard to get but it's better to do something than do nothing,make them understand that same bible that said love of money is the root of all evil also said money answered everything...


Note: I believe that God is the greatest

Please show me where this is in the Bible.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Cutehector(m): 10:45am On Apr 11, 2021
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.
that is the true church . Jesus preached to the multitudes and felt their hunger and gave them 5loaves of bread.

If a pastor likes let him preach from Genesis to revelation, if a poor man is looking for what to eat and a rich man is busy flaunting his wealth in church, then that isnt a true church.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Earlystar698(m): 10:46am On Apr 11, 2021
yorke1:


Please show me where this is in the Bible.


You can read Deuteronomy 8:17

for better understanding... have a good day
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by yorke1: 10:53am On Apr 11, 2021
Earlystar698:



You can read Deuteronomy 8:17

for better understanding... have a good day

Hey, come here and don't run away. I asked a simple question and you are running away without answering it.

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Aboguede(m): 11:04am On Apr 11, 2021
Make we agree say nobi format bi dis shocked
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by staga: 11:05am On Apr 11, 2021
YourNextLevel:
They have started insulting you here and you deserve it very well Pastor.

Your bringing spiritual things to carnal people and you expect them to understand?

Didn't you undergo training ?

THERE ARE ETHICS IN THIS MISSION WE ARE IN.

Happy new week

Please tell him. The things of the Spirit are spiritually discerned and not for carnally minded people because they cannot discern these things.

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by dnawah(m): 11:05am On Apr 11, 2021
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.
God is going to bless you don't miss use it.ask him 4 what to do.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Clinghton: 11:08am On Apr 11, 2021
The early church survived by sharing among themselves what they had, but we now have churches where the leader has favourite members that's those that are rich, churches where the leader has jets and cars while most members suffer.

Our present day church has derailed from the ethics and principle of what a church should be.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by tete7000(m): 11:18am On Apr 11, 2021
There is connection between spiritual prosperity and physical prosperity. If people know God, they will prosper for God will provide there needs. How? That God will fashion out. The scripture says seeks first the kingdom of God and all these others will be added unto you. Mr. Pastor bring your congregation to authentic knowledge of God (that is assuming you yourself understand what this is) and bringing your people to physical prosperity becomes an easy task for you.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by achanyaene: 11:18am On Apr 11, 2021
I am glad someone has raised the point of who is more important, the building or the people? In the Old Testament emphasis was laid on building temples rather than the people because God’s dwelling place then was the temple. But now attention has shifted to the people rather than the temple. Sadly, we are still stuck building temples rather than people.
Do everything you can to build this people spiritually, financially and physically. After they have been built they will build the church.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Pimine: 11:23am On Apr 11, 2021
Truefaith post=100689835:
[b]Here is another so-called 'pastor' who should never have set foot in a pulpit,
someone who really does not understand the basic MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE: [/b] SIN, not God's inability to keep the world fed, housed, healed or maintained, is the issue.


Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem


Really?


Isn't that very different from what you have in Isaiah 59:1-2, pastor? Was Christ wrong, pastor, when He taught people to seek first the kingdom of God and that all other things would be added to them?


With this your postulation, it would appear an economics professor or a social worker should rather be in your post.

The problem of the world, Mr Pastor, is spiritual. It is SIN.

God is capable, not only to solve all economic and social problems once the sin issue is removed from the world but to make the world run without the problems.

Those who know God situate correctly the problem of man.


No one is supposed to be called a pastor if the main teaching of the Bible is not understood by the person.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOusv4ZA3E
Aswearugaaad

Everytime you go just dey rant. Why not go and kick him down from the pulpit, oversabi? Go and take an early nap joor.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by jclassiq(m): 11:24am On Apr 11, 2021
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.

You are absolutely correct man of God. Hardship is the number one reason why many people can't care less about God. How can they believe in a God who allows them go on suffering. Sometimes you can't even go to this people to tell them about God except you have enough food they can put in their belly otherwise they won't even listen to you.

But the bigger problem is that many men of god these days are so focused on the wrong things. Shouting 'tithe tithe tithe!!!' everyday but they won't even use the tithe to help the widow and the orphan and the poor among them. Rather to build more and bigger structure so they can be boasting all over the place.

I am confused and tired of the whole scenario.

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by GboyegaD(m): 11:32am On Apr 11, 2021
nurudeen181:

oga, is it by working hard, waiting mechanic and bricklayer do God?

Nothing but that is what is expected. Mechanic dey buy house abi dem no dey buy?

Dickson25:

work harder with empty stomach abi??

I encouraged him to help in any way he can but he can't be helping them forever.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Map1(m): 11:39am On Apr 11, 2021
Lovethaa:
That's right pastor,. the truth is that it is only the poor that have bad dreams and spiritual attacks .. you rarely see a rich man with Soo much spiritual problem like the poor man...



When hunger wire you as a man. ypu will begin to see witches and wizards



You shed tears because you felt thier pain but when the church grows bigger , Hope you won't forget them. .. trust me many have shed tears before you but now they laugh in private jets while members shed tears
Baba Buhari as a case study
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by MrMacinterchi1: 11:39am On Apr 11, 2021
ChocolateWine:
You shed tears and you're using the small money donated by the church to erect structures.


Which structure is he erecting.?
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 11:55am On Apr 11, 2021
RuddyFusion:
I schooled abroad and have been to other countries outside Europe....


Every location differ with its own configuration and needs

That doesn't change the fact that man is a spirit and the spiritual controls the physical...


You obviously never went to a European church, they practise religion with sense

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 11:58am On Apr 11, 2021
Dickson25:


work harder with empty stomach abi??

How else are you supposed to fill an empty stomach?
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Willie2015: 12:12pm On Apr 11, 2021
RuddyFusion:
I schooled abroad and have been to other countries outside Europe....


Every location differ with its own configuration and needs
That doesn't change the fact that man is a spirit and the spiritual controls the physical...

I agree with you that ...
the spiritual control the physical....
However, we cannot wish away the poor leadership in the country for so many years....
Dat has brought poverty, extreme hunger and misery 2day.
As far as the earth remains, seed time and harvest time shall not cease.
It is what we sow that we are reaping.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by RuddyFusion(m): 12:30pm On Apr 11, 2021
1Sharon:


You obviously never went to a European church, they practise religion with sense
I guess you want me to show you pictures but I won't do that...

From the days of John the Baptist the kingdom of God sufferent violence and only by violence you will take it by force...

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers against spiritual wickedness in higher places.....

There's nothing like religion with sense...The gods of this world don't respond to gentility but to power and violence
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by RuddyFusion(m): 12:32pm On Apr 11, 2021
Willie2015:


I agree with you that ...
the spiritual control the physical....
However, we cannot wish away the poor leadership in the country for so many years....
Dat has brought poverty, extreme hunger and misery 2day.
As far as the earth remains, seed time and harvest time shall not cease.
It is what we sow that we are reaping.
There's a seed and a foundation of wickedness to the leadership gaps in Africa and the entire black nation
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by saajus: 12:38pm On Apr 11, 2021
Hmm. That's why I cry when I see our big Churches sinking money on structures and private jets. People are suffering.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by RuddyFusion(m): 12:38pm On Apr 11, 2021
kalu61:
How about those of developed economy that don't give attention to religion.

Why will a sane Nigeria fast and pray to get US Visa why US citizen can enters most countrie at ease?
Check the foundation of those so called developed countries....

The word said....'Seek ye first the kingdom of God and it's reightouness and all other things shall be added to you


Secondly the word said .."That the children of this world have become wiser than the children of light...

There are rules, laws and principles that governs the universe, once you know them and apply it, you will get same results regardless of who you are...

That's one of the mysteries of Life
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Professorcplus(m): 12:42pm On Apr 11, 2021
kalu61:
How about those of developed economy that don't give attention to religion.

Why will a sane Nigeria fast and pray to get US Visa why US citizen can enters most countrie at ease?

Hahaha RuddyFusion believe everything happening in Africa has spiritual background. Why you believe otherwise. Imagine if two of you were partner. Why does she believes so. Three things influence what a man would be.

*People you move with
*The environment you grew up from and
*The books and materials you consume.
It will only be a waste of time trying to change people's ideology.... You can only influenced them.

The Pastor might truly feel concerned about his members predicaments... But let his ministry grow more bigger his intentions would be to guide the interest of his ministry by competing with other bigger churches to building biggest auditorium and acquiring more members so the money can keep flowing in without caring about the warfare of his sheeps. Which is why I don't fancy big churches.

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by white3663: 12:45pm On Apr 11, 2021
2 friends, the church and the state. 2 thieves, politicians and pastors
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by kalu61(m): 12:50pm On Apr 11, 2021
RuddyFusion:
Check the foundation of those so called developed countries....

What's wrong with foundation of those countries?



RuddyFusion:

The word said....'Seek ye first the kingdom of God and it's reightouness and all other things shall be added to you


Secondly the word said .."That the children of this world have become wiser than the children of light...

You didn't answer my questions anyways.



RuddyFusion:

There are rules, laws and principles that governs the universe, once you know them and apply it, you will get same results regardless of who you are...

That's one of the mysteries of Life
The rules, laws and principles are good leaders, good leadership, excellent justuce system and citizens that understand law their rights under the law, need to have good leaders, taking decision without religious sentiment etc.

Religion is African problem, take it off leave it.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by DWJOBScom(m): 12:52pm On Apr 11, 2021
Lovethaa:
That's right pastor,. the truth is that it is only the poor that have bad dreams and spiritual attacks .. you rarely see a rich man with Soo much spiritual problem like the poor man...



When hunger wire you as a man. you will begin to see witches and wizards



You shed tears because you felt thier pain but when the church grows bigger , Hope you won't forget them. .. trust me many have shed tears before you but now they laugh in private jets while members shed tears

I laughed out when i saw the your write up.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by clems88(m): 12:53pm On Apr 11, 2021
Omo bulhari don finish this corntree . I went to buy common hollandia n I was told is now 750 angry oya kuma give me malt them say 200 for one o. Madam leave am ... Give me coke she say 150 for small pet bottle shocked I just weak buy bag of water for 150 angry atlrat e go reach me 1 week angry

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