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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Lostchild(m): 12:56pm On Apr 11
Sharingiscaring:
shocked One thing you need to know is that the economy is hitting most Nigerians very hard now. It's not only the members of your church.

What those poor people need more than hand-outs of money is THE KNOWLEDGE that makes wealth. Even scriptures say that "my people perish for a lack of knowledge" (Hosea 4:6).

So, I will advise you to give them both REVEALED and PRACTICAL advice on how to overcome poverty and live in wealth. Here's a thread someone did on this that I believe can help you in this respect: https://www.nairaland.com/6499494/make-bad-economy-work-out

Sharap
Which knowledge give wealth in Nigeria

You come here with your ignorance

Knowledge that give wealth my foot
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by kalu61(m): 12:57pm On Apr 11
Professorcplus:


Hahaha RuddyFusion believe everything happening in Africa has spiritual background. Why you believe otherwise. Imagine if two of you were partner. Why does she believes so. Three things influence what a man would be.

*People you move with
*The environment you grew up from and
*The books and materials you consume.
It will only be a waste of time trying to change people's ideology.... You can only influenced them.

The Pastor might truly feel concerned about his members predicaments... But let his ministry grow more bigger his intentions would be to guide the interest of his ministry by competing with other bigger churches to building biggest auditorium and acquiring more members so the money can keep flowing in without caring about the warfare of his sheeps. Which is why I don't fancy big churches.

I exactly what l said earlier. He is concern because money is not coming in as he expected only to find out things are hard for his members as he too is broke.

He ran here to complain. All those flying jet once stated with humanity at heart.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by vanvino(m): 1:03pm On Apr 11
If by becoming a pastor u suddenly realized, the problem of this country is economical not spiritual then God should called all of us including Buhari but i should i warn you, Nigerians are like the children of Israel, u will sacrifice yourself for them, divide the red sea for them to passed, provide mannar & water, beg God not to destroy them, yet its still them that will make you missed the promised land if not careful
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by judedwriter(m): 1:40pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.

The truth is that many people are under the curse of poverty. Poverty is nothing but demonic oppression...no matter how much you feed a poor man, he will still ask for more.

Teach your members how to prosper spiritually. There are different ways we can prosper spiritually.

It's our responsibility as children of God to prosper spiritually and teach others how to prosper spiritually.

Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
— 3 John 1:2
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 1:40pm On Apr 11
RuddyFusion:
I guess you want me to show you pictures but I won't do that...

From the days of John the Baptist the kingdom of God sufferent violence and only by violence you will take it by force...

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers against spiritual wickedness in higher places.....

There's nothing like religion with sense...The gods of this world don't respond to gentility but to power and violence

Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 1:52pm On Apr 11
YourNextLevel:
They have started insulting you here and you deserve it very well Pastor.

Your bringing spiritual things to carnal people and you expect them to understand?

Didn't you undergo training ?

THERE ARE ETHICS IN THIS MISSION WE ARE IN.

Happy new week
Same sir, I am not borderd about insults,Jesus was insulted whom am i.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 1:54pm On Apr 11
KingLennon:

God bless you....Pastor do you know that before Jesus Christ healed the sick, he first of all had compassion on them (Luke 7:13, Matt 20:34, Matt 15:32). If you follow this path you will see God in your ministry because Jesus cannot reside in a place where there is no love (1 John4:20). God strengthen you Sir....
Amen, thanks so much sir.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 1:58pm On Apr 11
doggedfighter:
It's even hunger and quest for easy money that made you to become a pastor in the first place.

You are shedding tears of joy upon discovering how to scam them and the formula to use.

Prosperity seed
Seed of faith
Sacrifice
Tithes etc

Scam the hell out of those brainless lot !

It is well with you my sister,take note: not everyone who comes for counseling that are my members,I am writing based on experienced.secondly,I wasn't jobless,I am a trained mechanical engineer,and I have worked with the government before God called me and I have no choice than to resign.It is a great thing to serve the Lord.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 2:05pm On Apr 11
GboyegaD:
Help them the way you can and encourage them to work harder.
Noted sir
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 2:06pm On Apr 11
GboyegaD:
Help them the way you can and encourage them to work harder.
Noted sir,it is well with you
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by omitusaf(m): 2:14pm On Apr 11
YourNextLevel:
They have started insulting you here and you deserve it very well Pastor.

Your bringing spiritual things to carnal people and you expect them to understand?

Didn't you undergo training ?

THERE ARE ETHICS IN THIS MISSION WE ARE IN.

Happy new week

.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by MrNipplesLover(m): 2:53pm On Apr 11
God bless you, too, OP.


Thank you, Jesus.

❤❤❤❤
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Dshocker(m): 2:57pm On Apr 11
ChocolateWine:
You shed tears and you're using the small money donated by the church to erect structures.



You lack understand,carefully read again
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Aparche(f): 3:09pm On Apr 11
Lostchild:


Sharap
Which knowledge give wealth in Nigeria

You come here with your ignorance

Knowledge that give wealth my foot

You people know nothing except how to insult people. Must everything be spelt out for you? How can you ask which knowledge give wealth in Nigeria. That in itself is an ignorant question...Go an learn sought after skills such as internet marketing, crypto currency/ forex trading.etc even plumbing, electrical work, generator repair...and see whether the knowledge & application of those skills will not give you wealth.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by JustZoe(m): 3:23pm On Apr 11
@Op, I understand what you are saying perfectly. It is a pity that many people commenting here have no idea what you just described.

To those saying they should get a job, kindly know that there are many working people broke. So their poverty or being broke is not entirely due to not working.

Many who read this also work and are yet broke. And yet they keep recommending people should work. Get me right, I ain't saying jobless people shouldn't work. I'm only asking if working is the solution, why are a lot of working class people broke?

Here is what you need to know Pastor; Faith is the only victory that overcomes the world! (1 Jhn 5:4).

Here is my advice and I answer you from experience and the Word of God. You yourself will first have to learn about Kingdom Finance. When you master it and your are free yourself, then can you also teach others and break the financial hardship bedevilling people.

I can recommend books and messages for you, if you so care to have knowledge tgat makes free. Jhn 8:32.

To whosoever will read this, please don't be quick to forget the words of 1 Cor 2:14 that carnal mind can't receive the things of the spirit. So if you are sense-ruled, you won't understand or agree with what I wrote.

Let me close by saying this, when Jesus was anointed, He said The Spirit was upon Him to preach the Gospel to the poor, even before healing the sick or raising the dead. Please read Luk 4:18.

If any should know about answers to poverty in our world, it should be Jesus. And He didn't recommend job or business. He said the gospel should be preached to them.

I am not saying you shouldn't work. I am saying learn about how finances work in the kingdom.

Knowledge of Christ is what sets free from the challenges of life!
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Bejusttoall: 3:30pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.
Good of you man of God
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Miracle4all: 3:37pm On Apr 11
Lovethaa:
That's right pastor,. the truth is that it is only the poor that have bad dreams and spiritual attacks .. you rarely see a rich man with Soo much spiritual problem like the poor man...



When hunger wire you as a man. ypu will begin to see witches and wizards



You shed tears because you felt thier pain but when the church grows bigger , Hope you won't forget them. .. trust me many have shed tears before you but now they laugh in private jets while members shed tears
My compassion for others is not just a gift,it is a calling.from my mum angle,I am the first born,with 6younger ones, when I have little,I share with everyone of them.i am always angry when my brother or sister is hungry.my prayers is God enlarge d ministry,d rest we be handled by God's grace.it is well with u
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by egemgeo(m): 3:40pm On Apr 11
op they have started insulting you here oo
Your bringing spiritual things to place with many unchurch like people and you expect them to
understand?
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by ZooOga: 4:01pm On Apr 11
Imagine, nomadic herdsmen have more to eat than some devout church members.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by quentin06: 4:27pm On Apr 11
IMO people who go into the ministry should be wealthy or connected to people who are, they should also be spiritually empowered cos people will bring their problems to you and you must deliver, that's what separate pastors from pastors.

Sound oratory and Phd is not enough.

Must be practical, like Jesus was.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by mytty: 4:39pm On Apr 11
Wow! Reminds me of the early disciples who soled their lands and brought the proceeds so that it belongs to all,
THIS IS CHRISTIANITY,
WHEN WE GAVE OUR LIVES TO CHRIST
WE GAVE ALL NOT SOME
NOT PART,
WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST
YOU HAVE GIVEN ALL YOUR MONIES
ALL YOUR BUSINESS, FAMILY, YOUR SOUL, BODY SPIRIT, THEY BELONG TO JESUS, NOT JUST ONE TENTH,
THIS IS CHRISTIANITY,
A LIFE OF THE HOLYGHOST,
WHERE ETERNAL LIFE perambulates in all your affairs,
I TELL YOU THIS IS THE SWEETEST LIFE there is,
TO GET ETERNAL LIFE, IT IS FREE OF CHARGE,
AVAILABLE NOW, GET YOURS,
BY ACCEPTING CHRIST AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR, TO DO THIS THE BIBLE WAY, (ROM 10:9-10) believe with your heart and Confess that JESUS died and God raised him from the dead,
Very simple, not even your sins because that has been taken care of on the cross,
Selah!
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by RuddyFusion(m): 4:41pm On Apr 11
kalu61:
What's wrong with foundation of those countries?



[b] You didn't answer my questions anyways.



[/b]The rules, laws and principles are good leaders, good leadership, excellent justuce system and citizens that understand law their rights under the law, need to have good leaders, taking decision without religious sentiment etc.

Religion is African problem, take it off leave it.



is it good leadership, excellent justice system and citizens that determines if you wake up in the morning or not?

The orders of day and night ?

The paths of the sun , moon and the stars ?

The ordering of the solar system?

Seasons and times?

How can you use the tangible to quantify the intangible..the visible to quantify the invisible?

There's no choas, no confusion, no untimely anything..

Everything in life is ordered and been ordered by the rules, laws and principles set by the Creator and which sides of these rules you found yourself



Everything you have ever done or will do till your last secs on earth is known and ordered from the foundations of the earth and the root of time.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by nedekid: 4:43pm On Apr 11
JosephXavier:
Most people going to church in Africa are not there for the word of God

They are looking for a breakthrough in their lives

That's why you see less churches and pastors in developed countries because their most needs are met by government
You hit the nail on the head. Most folks go to church cos it is a big market jare.
You make furniture, customer yafun you get school, members children (abi why do you think most churches, Pastors wife sets up school?) etc.
Go to large church eg winners, redeemed and you have huge market.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 5:04pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
It is well with you my sister,take note: not everyone who comes for counseling that are my members,I am writing based on experienced.secondly,I wasn't jobless,I am a trained mechanical engineer,and I have worked with the government before God called me and I have no choice than to resign.It is a great thing to serve the Lord.

LOL.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 5:05pm On Apr 11
MrNipplesLover:
God bless you, too, OP.


Thank you, Jesus.

❤❤❤❤

How did you put this emoji?

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by 1Sharon(f): 5:08pm On Apr 11
egemgeo:
op they have started insulting you here oo
Your bringing spiritual things to place with many unchurch like people and you expect them to
understand?

What is spiritual about hunger?
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by Bgene: 5:27pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.
In summary, the Christian God cannot help the poor.

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by greatnaija01: 6:08pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.

Hmmmm sadly even you who is a PASTOR, did not discover the WEALTH in the KINGDOM OF GOD before starting ministry, so you will not be balanced.


I can help you sha... because your way of doing ministry may have been wrong but you are still at the FOUNDATION, so it can be corrected...

what you lack is WISDOM. That's all.
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by divineappo(m): 6:15pm On Apr 11
YourNextLevel:
They have started insulting you here and you deserve it very well Pastor.

Your bringing spiritual things to carnal people and you expect them to understand?

Didn't you undergo training ?

THERE ARE ETHICS IN THIS MISSION WE ARE IN.

Happy new week
so u are one of those milking Nigeria dry via tithe collections

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Re: My Experience As A Pastor by alizma: 9:22pm On Apr 11
Miracle4all:
God bless you all niaraland members.

For a little now I have been privileged to serve God as a pastor in a newly planted church, to the Glory of God. There is no great building yet, just a temporary structure made with wood. I am not bothered about that, because humans are the church and not the building.

Now my experience is this, I have come to realize that many of us are going through economical problem, rather than spiritual problem. Anyday I am sitting in church for counseling purpose, majority of people that comes for counseling are those looking for what to eat, you will hear things pls pastor whatever you have give me to eat.

One day I shed tears, because I could not have anything to help some persons. My conclusion is this, churches should help each other. I am setting up a day for compassion purpose, even though we are not much in number yet, members we be encouraged to bring what they have to help others.
When you are set, please come to nairaland and drop your contact and location of the church as well as day and time of the week set aside for the donation so that nairalander around your area who are interested can come and drop their gift items too
Re: My Experience As A Pastor by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:44pm On Apr 11
1Sharon:


How did you put this emoji?


1) there is one application on my phone, namely, FACEMOJI KEYBOARD. Na this app dey convert anything I type into its icon (on WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.)

2) I use Chrome browser to open nairaland.

If I type love, it will bring the icon, and I click on it.

U must use the facemoji keyboard as ur default phone keyboard before it can bring an icon for any object u type.

Pic 2 - how it suggests.

Pic 3 - the application from Google Play Store.


Don't know if this helps the way I put it.

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