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BikeMan:
Oh Yes, congratulations on beating Spurs that everyone beats. Even Arteta beat am.

Your trophy is on the way, sorry about the delay.

MRTA7:
That Greenwood strike on his so called weaker foot was past Lloris before he even moved.

elampiro:
I really don't know. What I know is that I am enjoying watching United more than before (since SAF left). I have more confidence we can win a match more than before. I have more confidence we can turn a score line around even in late minutes. I have more confidence we are not totally going to be outplayed by City, Liverpool, PSG, etc. Even if na Barca or Madrid

Where we go from here, I don't know yet. One or two great signings might just be the key.

Mrviktor:
Trouble in paradise.


Ole should not fight with jose oh.. Biko

Worst battle ever.

elampiro:
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KingAlabi:
No one is saying why didn't ole take either of tominay or Fred off at half time because of their yellow card, even with Tottenham theatrics, see wetin win they cause.

GGMU!!!!

KingTom:
Normal bants, we saw worse with him and Wenger

Mrviktor:
If you notice Jose has been throwing silent jabs at him all season..

SyIvalord:
First of all, I have probably said this several times, but let me say it one more time. I am a Manchester United fan, not an Ole fan. The fact that I don’t Criticize Ole needlessly or call him demeaning names or use #killthebastard or blame him for things that are not his fault or insult when Fred loses the ball or when Rashford runs into traffic time and time again doesn’t mean I am an Ole fanboy. Unlike some people, I just understand that there are some things Ole can be blamed for and there are somethings that are not his fault at all. You guys have a tendency to deflect questions by tagging people as Ole fanboys. I believe that is just a defence mechanism by you guys. The way you guys use. That term “Ole fanboy or the more annoying Olesexual”, it’s as if daring to support the manager of one’s team makes ones opinion automatically faulty.

Is this what pattern of play means to you? If this is your definition of pattern of play, then I can also tell you United’s pattern of play.

A team’s pattern of play depends on the players available. When Madrid had fast attackers and fullbacks, they employed a devastating counterattacking tactic, always looking to hurt opponents on the break, this is similar to what Ole wants to do with United. We look to win the ball in midfield and quickly hit the opponent on the break but since this is the Epl where most teams wouldn’t even push enough bodies forward to leave spaces for counterattacking to be a major tactic, we have begun to look to control the game more by pressing high up the field and pinning the opponent to their half. The problem with us is that our players do not move the ball quickly enough sometimes, or there is not enough movement by the players to open up passing lanes and when the midfielders become frustrated by the lack of passing options, they just pass sideways or try to force a forward pass and they end up losing the ball. Our problem is not lack of a pattern but inability to execute that pattern effectively multiple times. I believe with more work on the training ground, the team will get better but this season has been so tough that the players barely get time to train. How can they train properly when they play every 3 days? Those boys mostly just do recovery work and prepare for the next game. They barely have time to work properly on the training ground or else they will be fatigued before the match day.

There it goes again, trying to discredit an opinion by calling people Ole supporters as if that is an inexcusable crime. Not everything is black or white Herr Patrick. Sometimes you have to put hate for Ole aside and view things from a different perspective. Not every post that tries to show you that you are wrong about Ole is defending him. Sometimes, you are just wrong

elampiro:
I really don't know. What I know is that I am enjoying watching United more than before (since SAF left). I have more confidence we can win a match more than before. I have more confidence we can turn a score line around even in late minutes. I have more confidence we are not totally going to be outplayed by City, Liverpool, PSG, etc. Even if na Barca or Madrid

Where we go from here, I don't know yet. One or two great signings might just be the key.

BARAJ92:
. Apart from Liverpool who have really be unlucky with injuries in the defence which other team have been heavily hit with injury.

Man City has a good squad, in which they can easily replaced any player without feeling the impact unlike Man Utd where injury to Martial and Cavani allow us to turn to James, Look at Man Utd bench at times, you will be seeing two to three goal keepers on the bench

odizeey:
My blood is red.

afrodoc:
Boys don ask after you. You disappeared for a minute. Even pastor elrony.

SyIvalord:
Lol. No vex. I no see your post praising Ole and the players before. I just see am now.

KingAlabi:
No one is saying why didn't ole take either of tominay or Fred off at half time because of their yellow card, even with Tottenham theatrics, see wetin win they cause.

GGMU!!!!

KingAlabi:
I told Patrickmuf this, I know what I was saying.

At 1:0 I told people around me, we are not loosing our away undefeated to a mourinho team.

SyIvalord:
What exactly do you mean by “Basics”? I do not think we have any problem with doing the basics, I think our problem is mastering and constantly executing intricate passing, off the ball movement to open up passing lanes, forward runs and positioning to ensure that a passing option is always available.

Next season we won’t play as regularly as this season. Unless on UCL weeks, the first team will majorly play once a week. You cannot compare this season to a normal season in terms of frequency of matches at all. There will be more time to practice on the training ground. Also, we will at least have some semblance of a preseason. Are you forgetting that we had no preseason preparation this season? Preseason is supposed to be a time to work on tactics and patterns. We did not have that opportunity this season so it’s understandable that the players have not yet mastered what needs to be mastered in other to make the team’s pattern of play clear. Although, now one can see glimpses of what the team is trying to do.

When some players constantly lose the ball because of lose touches or taking too many touches, it is difficult for them to create any sort of pattern. The manager can be blamed for many things but he cannot be blamed for a player being unable to hold on to the ball and progress it quickly. Pep for instance always goes for midfielders who can hold on to the ball and progress it even in tight spaces because such players are important to his setup. We have midfielders who have lose touches and are prone to losing the ball when pressed. This problem can be corrected on the training field,(or maybe we can just bin the guilty players) but like I said earlier, there is not enough time between games for the team to work hard enough on the training pitch. Bruno said he cannot even practice free kicks because Ole always sends him in to rest (obviously because Ole doesn’t want him to be fatigued before the next game.

I can see what the team is trying to do, but lose touches or bad passes always ensure that the pattern breaks down too quickly. Rome wasn’t built in a day and not everything can be taught. It’s either we dispose of players who always lose the ball or we teach them how to hold on to the ball long enough for passing options to become available. Likewise, it’s either we dispose of players who always stand still and expect the ball to feet or we teach them how to make smart movements. These things are not easily taught. Especially not when the team barely have time to train properly.

Are you comparing Madrid’s midfield to ours? How can we employ the possession game as effectively as Madrid when we have Fred and Mctominay who are not press resistant and cannot pass between the lines to save their lives? Are you expecting Fred and Mctominay to offer the same quality Kroos, Casemiro, Modric offers? Apart from the fact that Madrid has a better all round midfield, they have had a lot of years together. Their possession play is better because they have the midfield for it. Our midfield is just not there yet.

Patrick, when a child starts learning to walk, he/she starts by standing while holding onto things, then he/she starts standing on her own and with time that child will start walking with more assured steps. If the parents of that child support the child by holding his/her hand and practice walking around with them every day, the learning process will be a lot quicker but If the parent let the child do it all on his/her own, it will take a longer time for the child to start walking. If the parents always stop the child from standing at all and always carries the child on their back, that child will be crawling when all his/her mates are already running.

Liken the above description to United. We want to play a possession game. In other to master it quickly we need a lot of practice but unfortunately practice time is very limited for the team right now. Our case now is like the child that wants to walk but is unable to practice walking for whatever reason. We cannot just master possession football in a few training sessions. The fact that we don’t do it properly doesn’t mean we don’t try to do it.

Also note that we did not play this way last season. Last season was all about the low block and counter attack. This season is about high press and keeping the ball in the opposition’s half.

It is clear that we are not there yet, but it is also clear that we will get there.

eleshin:
I was surprised when I saw that comment. Anything to downplay his effort. Fred started the move for that goal and followed it up.

patrickmuf:
Told who? Like we didn't do come backs when Mourinho coached us? Abeg I no get time for your supposed cruising because sometimes it just doesn't make sense...

Kilishihunter:
At this point mourinho should consider coaching national teams

CapitalCee:
What I learnt this match.

Pogba was outstanding, what a performance!!!.

Greenwood all round game is now evolving.

We sorely missed a fit Rashford.

Luke Shaw is the best LB in EPL.

Henderson is a competent GK. Very solid performance.

Is this Ole's tactics? If it is let him keep it up and quarell no go dey sam sam

patrickmuf:
If they had been red carded, even you would've complained...If Spurs didn't sit back and came at us full blown, they'd have been susceptible to a possible second yellow and trust me, even would have blamed Ole...It is what it is.

nitrogen:
The players on the bench look useless to us because OGS has refused to play them.

patrickmuf:
Told who? Like we didn't do come backs when Mourinho coached us? Abeg I no get time for your supposed cruising because sometimes it just doesn't make sense...

eleshin:
I was surprised when I saw that comment. Anything to downplay his effort. Fred started the move for that goal and followed it up.